As of the last census there’s actually more catholics than protestants and the last two elections have seen neither explicitly nationalist or unionist parties win a majority of the vote
Maybe cause of “the troubles” and people don’t want to restart a new war ending the good times they have now, and don’t try to pretend whatever inflation and economic trouble we’re going through now is somehow worse than ending up looking like another Ukraine with IRA bombs going off with British military convoys, installations and helicopters patrolling everywhere in Northern Ireland and having checkpoints to check for IRA members.
Hey it’s the UDA who are doing the attacks now just this last weekend. Proddies waving the bloody shirt about the IRA when the UDA and UVF are just as bad (plus you know all the genocide and stuff)
Unionists are more open minded and are moving away from religion, Catholics as slow learners by will with time follow that trend. In today's news another priest is under investigation.
Ireland's history is the kind of thing you need to be 100% sure about before bringing up. It's a very intricate topic that many people are rightly sensitive about.
Good luck getting anywhere close to accurate to begin with. Every side has a story and none of it links up and all of it is inherently biased in one way or another. It's why I look at the politics of this country and just say "Nah fuck that, I'd need a PhD in this shit to even get close and probably still be wrong" It's way too much shit to sift through I'm just tryna god damn live
@@imperatorscotorum6334 As of the 2021 census, there are more Catholics than protestants in Northern Ireland, 45.7% to 43.5% respectively but he claims that protestants are in a majority. This is the case for the first time since Northern Ireland came into being in 1921and why many are calling for a referendum to reunite the island of Ireland as soon as possible.
And what did he say that was wrong other than Protestants being a majority? He actually described the Plantations and it's end goal and NI State set up as "Protestant land for a Protestant people" as James Craig, one of the founders of the state actually stated.
Last statement is false. Northern Ireland is now Catholic majority and the majority political party is Sinn Fein which is an Irish nationalist/socialist party that has its main goal on supporting all of the island as a single nation and state. Ireland will reunite soon
Don't forget the Sinn Fein the political wing of the IRA! The Unionist vote was split between several parties and Sinn Fein was the single largest that was all.
Southern Ireland don't want northern Ireland, it will cost them too much. Northern Ireland has a lot government jobs , its a loss for the uk to keep ' norn iron'.
@@sagaronyoutube Too complex a question to ask. Too many perspectives to ask. After the Arab-Israeli conflict it is the next most written about conflict in a confined space. I am not really interested in the political or civil rights or negotiations aspects. I am interested in the intelligence/military aspect or the proxy war between the Polit Bureau in Moscow and CIA and Mi5. Northern Ireland was psychological operation by the state of a small community in lockdown. I am neutral but I am fascinated the lesser characters you rarely hear about. Fr Michael Ryan, Capt Robert Niraic, John Phoenix, Rose Dugdale, the arms trial, . New books on the shelf are Bandit Country and the Yank. Can't think of the human rights solicitor killed in 1986 with military collusion, Billy Wright, Bernadette Devlin, Martin Manseragh,Billy Hutchinson, Michael Stone, David Irvine. Rev Ian Paisley, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness, John Hume have all been written about and over analysed to death.
Marvellous fountain of knowledge American, how many Americans especially the Irish/Americans in Boston who dream of the “old country” can actually find Ireland on an Atlas?
I have to correct you but the majority of population is not Protestant. If checked out the latest Census in 2021 you would have seen that there is 45% of the population is Catholic to 43% Protestant. This is the first time since the formation of NI that Catholics are in the majority. To say that overall population is pro unionist that vey much up for debate. A lot has changed in recent years especially since UK left the EU.
@@Thomas-lg6jx define Irish. The first president of Ireland was Protestant and Micheal Colin’s was non-denomination raised in a Protestant household in London but still lead the charge for Irish independence and became the free states first provisional leader. Catholic does not mean Irish. Nor does Protestant mean British. A majority of polls show people support remaining part of the United Kingdom at the moment.
@@Thomas-lg6jx a majority of the original IRA weren’t Gaelic speakers. And a lot of Protestants fought and died for Irish freedom. How about you learn the actual history of the island before spouting useless sectarian shite.
America is a country so great that everyone there claims to be from somewhere else. Nobody just says yeah I am American, they always have to prefix it with whatever country their great grandparents came from
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer Which makes it all the more tragic that they wil casually p1ss on immigrants who can't wait to call themselves Americans. What a mess.
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer Imagine so confidently not understanding American culture. There are people whose American families came from Ireland or Italy a century ago who are very culturally different from my American family in terms of traditions, religion, outlook, etc. Irish and British usually assume they understand the diverse and massive America from watching US movies and sitcoms 🤡
@@ivanshipy1966 Irish-American is its own ethnic group separate both from other American ethnic groups and the Irish. Irish don't get to define it or gatekeep it because it's not theirs. I thank God I'm not one of them because the Irish are insufferable and can't stay in their own lane.
@@leopheard Good Friday already sorted that. Northern Ireland is free to leave whenever there is a majority in favour of it; at any time. The UK will never be able to stop the GFA from happening; nor should they be able to
It’s a pity Irish “independence” wasn’t subject to a referendum. Irish Home rule was passed in 1914 and would have come into effect after WW1. Instead, some idiot hotheads rebelled on Easter 1916. Thousands died in the ensuing wars, and today we have the north which has been racked by violence and the republic which is a vassal state of the EU.
@@TransportSupremo Scotland didn't vote to stay in the EU, thats just Nationalistic nonsense. It was a British wide poll where every vote was equal and all of Britain voted by a majority for Brexit.
It amazes me that I moved to Ireland at eight (my mother is full Irish) from England and I got harassed and beat up for being English meanwhile… they ran to my previous hometown for help in the past 🙄
Bro is American. They graduated from "Don't Know American History University" first and foremost. From there it's pretty hard to be objective about the rest without a rigorous deprogramming and reeducation. American public school education is basically nationalist propaganda and barebones employment skills mixed with a daycare center - that's the only sane way to sum it up.
@@awooga6600there may be a distinct correlation between religious beliefs and unionist vs nationalist affiliation, however, with more people becoming more non-religious and as religion in general has become less important it is difficult to say whether more catholics definitely means more nationalists. There are many mixed families, and I myself know a few unionists who converted to Catholicism due to them preferring it on a spiritual level. Sinn Fein won the last election, but it must be remembered that the unionist vote was split far more than the nationalist vote. Just thought I’d remind people that it’s difficult to say what’s what exactly. History barely understands this place
Catholics are actually the largest group in Northern Ireland now. I wouldn't say most people in Northern Ireland are unionists, although the majority to support remaining as part of the United Kingdom, it is more for pragmatic reasons, rather than ideological reasons.
No, unionist are. Unionists still make up the majority of the northern Irish assembly and the majority still identity as British. Protantism is just a dieing branch of Christianity.
Not really for pragmatic reasons you find that alot more catholics are unionist than protestants are nationalist. Also you find that the majority of the atheist community in NI is predominantly converts from protestantism. Also yes it is pragmatic that we stay in the UK but the debate is mostly ideological the pragmatism is just a bonus
The people you are referring to are the people Americans call “Scotch Irish”. You also might like to know that the western coasts of Britain were colonised by Irish people in the 5th and 6th centuries after the collapse of the Roman Empire. The Irish settlers/colonisers brought with them many aspects of what we think of as characteristically “Scottish”…the bag pipes, the crafts and most importantly the language. The language we call “Gaelic” in Scotland is the same language as the language we call “.Irish” in Ireland…the Goidelic branch of the Celtic family of languages. Both these languages are still in use. Even the name of Scotland is Irish…the “Scotti” were one of the groups from Ulster who settled in the south west of Scotland but gave their name to the whole country…..”scotti-land”. The “ Mac” surnames so common in both Ireland and Scotland mean “son of”…. The cultural, linguistic, genetic links between Britain and Ireland can be shown to have been active for at least 6000:years. And close. St Patrick was British, for example.
Your incorrect yourself. The Celtic languages existed on the British Isles before Germanics went over. Also the “ Irish colonialism “ of the coast of great Britain wasn’t colonialism. It was migration there was a united irish identity at that time let alone the capacity to colonize.
@@LanaDelReysBabe I think you misread me. There are two great “branches” of Celtic language…Brythonic and Goidelic as they are referred to today. As first sources Dawn the Goidelic branch seems to be confined to Ireland and the Isle of Man and the Brythonic branch much more widespread not just in Britain but contains the Celtic languages that once covered modern day France, and elsewhere on the continent. Irish colonies in the west of Britain brought the Goidelic branch to Britain where it stuck in Scotland but failed to take root in Wales. Also I think you mean to say there was NOT a United Irish identity then. No, of course not, but there was a United Irish culture….archaeology shows this…and numerous smaller kingdoms and yes, if Irish sources are to be trusted, the colonising was done at that level. There’s lots to read on this fascinating period.
@@LanaDelReysBabe As I pointed out…you cannot disentangle the past histories of the peoples of this archipelago or the people themselves by running up a few flags…
At the 2021 census, the prevalence rates for the main religions were: Catholic (42 per cent); Presbyterian (16 per cent); Church of Ireland (11.5 per cent); Methodist (2.4 per cent); Other Christian or Christian-related denominations (6.9 per cent); other Religions and Philosophies (1.3 per cent);
A huge number of these settlers from Scotland were not "sent" by King James in any plan to secure Ireland but were MacGregors forced out of Scotland after a war with the Campbell clan. James even banned the name MacGregor. They had to flee to escape persecution and death and many went to Ireland.
Also lawless border reivers were "encouraged" to colonise Ireland as mercenaries by King James. The alternative was to be treated as criminals for their border raiding and hung/drowned. I have Armstrongs on my mothers side that went over to ireland, while the more respectable ones eventually became engineers in NE England.
I like how many people in the comments say he's wrong, but I can't find a single one of them saying why he's wrong and what the truth is. Good job arguing your point of view folks. I'm sure you're going to convince everyone who's ignorant on the topic.
@@L3monstaIt's like he woke up drunk from a night out and scrambled to write his university thesis with two hours to go. 90% he is right on. It used to be approximately 65% Protestant/Unionist versus 35% Catholic/Nationalist in my childhood. There has been a recent population/voting swing to nationalism. This could in theory swing to trigger the Good Friday agreement where the population could determine who governed them i.e. a plebasite. In Northern Ireland there is no real manufacturing on scale, it's all civil/public service and tourism jobs. Completely on the tit to the tune of over £10 bn a year. So peace is being bought. That is not sustainable. Northern Ireland is not sustainable as its own state so it would have to join up with the republic who have a massive debt from the last banking crisis, housing problems, role for unionists, flag issues,...... Too many issues.
The only factual inaccuracy was that the 2021 census showed that for the first time there are fewer Protestants than Catholics in Northern Ireland. As for some suggestions that he was wrong to say a majority are pro-unionist, if that were the case then in accordance with the terms of the Good Friday agreement, Northern Ireland would be free to vote to rejoin the republic.
Hurts who? The only people thag care is Ireland and NI reform are people from these countries. If they want to make it happen then wicked doesn't bother anyone else.
I work with touring crews that come over to play gigs and several of them have asked me "So what's the deal over here?" And have had some of them say that their management explicitly told them they shouldn't say certain things when here. So they were more or less asking me "is this an area where you shouldn't say something like X" And I'm just like "Dude I fucking live here and I don't even know which things should and shouldn't be said to whom, your best bet is to not mention a thing unless someone else brings it up and even then, if you aren't certain they're joking around, just leave it" Don't try to wrap your head around this countries situation, you can get both sides of the stories, connect all the dots and still be wrong, but piss off everyone in between. It ain't worth it.
I used to date a girl who was protestant and her family lived on both sides of the border. Most of them wanted a united Ireland. Recently many northern Irish people are atheists and there are more Catholics than Protestants in Northern Ireland. When I lived there most people were not that interested in whatever country Northern Ireland should belong to, to many that question was just not that interesting.
Good video until the end. The majority of citizens in Northern Ireland are catholic and the recent general election was a landslide win for Sinn Fein (the Irish political party.) Please stick to speaking about US history, you have no clue what you are talking about here.
Irish tears always are refreshing. Even on a video that says nothing about the conflict just why there was a protestant population they start their usual shit again😂
As someone who is Irish, genetically so, going back 1000's of years, I was raised as British in the UK ( northern ireland) but as ive gotten older, I see myself ss Irish. It's stupid to say Scottish farmers came over and moved the real Irish out of the North. A lot of unionists are the same as me, have Irish genetics going back many generations. The old I get, the less I care. I'm Irish.. but I will have whatever passport I have to avoid bloodshed again. I don't care. Patriotism is something the rich use to get young lads to butcher each other. In Ireland, be whatever you want...Live and let live.
Bxxxcks! All non-conformists suffered in Ulster. Presbyterians came from Scotland looking for religious freedom. Both Catholics and Presbyterians suffered as a result of tithing laws which meant they had to pay a financial contribution to the established church ie Church of England. As a result the first ever rebellion in Ireland was in 1798...led by Wolfe Tone ( a Protestant from Dublin). This rebellion consisted of both protestants and catholic citizens living in Ireland. Please learn YOUR history before you spout victimist nonsense.
aye but that doesn’t mean anything, a good chunk of those catholics are foreigners from eastern europe, specifically poland who will obviously have no real allegiance to irish nationalism, the fabric of the north and the conflict itself is not the classic “catholics vs protestants” it’s irish vs british
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 same can be said for all the British protestants, their not meant to be here therefore falsely propping up unionist votes, the polish are only balancing out the mess the British made sending a load of people who don't belong here over
They were Scots - Irish people They came from the lowlands of Scotland and were Scottish and English descent They settled and took land from the Irish landowners known as ‘the plantation’ These mainly English and Scottish settlers were later known as the Scots - Irish as in from Scotland to Ireland
@@Stephen-lx9nm the Irish over a thousand years ago were known as the ‘Gaels’ - back then over 1500 years ago, some set sail from Ireland raiding and pillaging ‘Caledonia’ now known as ‘Scotland’ they were invaded by these Gaels in vast numbers. The indigenous Caledonians were Pictish Celtic tribal people. They fought battles with the Gaels known to them as ‘the Scotis’ these Scotis then claimed the land and named it land of the Scotis (Scotland) So essentially the Irish and Scot’s are the same tribe
Germany/Netherlands. Lowland Scot was a divergent culture of Anglo-Saxon that become distinctive in the 9th century after the invasion and colonisation of Northern England by the Scandinavians. Your thinking of the Highland and Ilse Scots that were Irish colonial descendents.
@@dessertfoxo4096 Ingenious answer, but centuries too late. The inhabitants of Hibernia were known as Scotos by the Romans, and after centuries of raiding and migration they came to dominate the west of what came to be known as Scotia Minor (now just Scotland).
Norway/Denmark etc is 1 place especially up northern Scotland, the lay of the land is very similar to back home for them, also the Picts were around before the Scandinavians came across, still today quite a mysterious group of people who again, inhabited the very North & parts of the East of Scotland, personally since so little is known I'd guess that they came from Doggerland which is all underwater now but once connected us to mainland Europe, I guess at that so don't take it as fact.
Which Scots? The Picts, the Celts, or the Germanic settlers that spread Old English langauge to Nortern Britain long before Edward I invaded? Scotland's history is no less simple than that of lower Britain - but we know for sure that peoples known to the Roman invaders as the Picts were there centuries before Dal Riata was founded.
This video left out the depopulation of Northern Ireland during the nine years war. Bands of English soldiers roamed the countryside slaughtering men women and children at will, burning homes and destroying livestock. To make way for the planyers
Whilst they might want to stay part of the UK, Unionist in Northern Ireland don't "pledge allegiance to the Crown." A pledge of allegiance is not a thing in the UK except for those being granted citizenship.
Two quick additional points: - The planting of Ireland occured across Ireland, but was much stronger in the North. The borders of Northern Ireland were drawn to capture an area that had a strong Protestant majority, but there were Protestants significant numbers of Protestants outside of this area. - Due to several factors, such as emigration of Protestants to the rest of the UK, and Catholics normally having more children, the Protestant majority of Northern Ireland has now reversed. Northern Ireland now has a plurality of Catholics at 46% of the population, while the number of Unionists vs Republicans is probably on a knife's edge. I think it's unlikely that Northern Ireland will still be in the UK in fifteen years time, regardless of how Brexit and the Northern Ireland protocol go. It is physically attached to the rest of Ireland, and time just isn't on the side of the Unionists.
Thanks for the info. Do you know anything about what has happened /will happen with the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic, since Brexit?
@@h077y Well, a lot has happened. There have been attempts to negotiate and re-negotiate the Northern Ireland protocol, which regulates the flow of goods between Northern Ireland, and the rest of the UK and the Republic of Ireland. The EU wants to be able to control which goods go into the customs union. The Republic of Ireland is part of the EU and the customs union, so that goods legally sold in one part of the EU can be sold in another part of the EU without dodging regulations or the common external tariff. Since the UK is no longer part of the EU or the customs union this presents a problem. Britain isn't so concerned about goods coming into the UK from the EU. Everybody agrees that we don't want a return to the days of a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, so that leaves us with having a soft border in the Irish Sea, and maybe a soft border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, which is obviously much harder to enforce. The more checks and regulations you put in place on trade between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland the more it annoys Republicans who wish to unite with ROI. The more of a soft border you have in the Irish Sea, the more it annoys Unionists, who feel that a border in the Irish Sea is a way of de facto taking NI out of the UK. And then there are the practical issues with the soft borders. One example that was quite popular in the press is that for a long time it was very difficult to get British sausages in Northern Ireland because they were very difficult to export (I'm sure that even using this word could annoy someone) to Northern Ireland. Not especially relevant, but I would say that British sausages are quite different from the ones you get in Europe. Ours tend to be stuffed with unsmoked meat, some seasoning, and sometimes plants, like onion or apple. I once had an 'English breakfast' in an EU country, and they gave me a chorizo sliced in two. It was nice, but not an English breakfast.
@@JoffesThoughts unification is a lot more complicated than people think. Both Cyprus's want unification but voted down a plan. Will a united Ireland be a unitary state? Will Ireland vote on a deal that allows the UK a say in north Ireland the way the UK allows Ireland to have some say in north Ireland
@@williamthebonquerer9181 Once a Border Poll passes you won't see Westminster for dust, they will have absolutely zero interest in continuing to be involved. As for a unitary state - by definition we are talking about a point where Unionism (already a minority) has then lost a NI-wide vote to stay in the UK. And it is Unionism that has been preventing the functioning of Stormont, mostly precisely because they can no longer control Stormont and would have to accept a SF First Minister. What possible justification is there for retaining the broken and dysfunctional NI polity, long-term? I mean there'll doubtless be a transition period of 5-10 years as the two jurisdictions are integrated but think about it, would Unionists even have any interest in keeping an SF-dominated "NornIrn" in existence, or would it make more practical (and emotional) sense to simply deal direct with Dublin, who they would probably see as more honest brokers with less baggage than Northern SF?
To claim that the majority of the population of the illegally occupied territory known as northern Ireland is majority unionist proves you should not be speaking on this subject
I live in Ireland, you are very wrong here. The settlers were brought in to farm the land by the irish lords of the time, they were given land and were allowed 25% of their crop, when the land was prosperous and crops were plentiful the Irish lords tried to take the land back, hundreds of families were slaughtered, you can read about it in trinity college in Dublin, it’s also marked in various other documentation of the time. The incident in Portadown at the bann river where 96 protestant women and children were drowned by Irish militia lead to the Cromwell invasion. That’s when the sanctions started. It’s been tit for tat ever since.
I’m a catholic from Northern Ireland and I go to a catholic school and there’s a constant fear you’ll get jumped for wearing your school uniform in public and I’m sure it’s the same with Protestant community’s and schools
Little known fact but there are also remnants of the old ascendancy families in the Rep of Ireland as well. They are called the Anglo Irish, some of them date back to the Norman conquest of Ireland led by Strongbow in 1169
yup. And nobody cares about them. They live on their shrunken estates and cause no bother. We are a nice people. We dont bother them. Gradually they will become more Irish.
You forgot to mention that when Ireland won her freedom from the British Crown the government in Britain drew a line around the area that they felt would be most populated by British loyalists, so the jerymandered the constituency for the vote on wether to be an independent sovereign nation, thus laying the seeds of division in the hope they could return and exploit this division in a future attempt to regain lost parts of their empire. The same tactic was used in the middle east (former Palestine) and in India (Kashmir)..
Just because somebody is talking about history doesn't mean he is making stuff up? I don't get why on every video I see people talking about history, there is always a comment like this. It's so stupid.
Honestly if Northern Irish people wish to unite then they should do it. It just want to see people happy and not constantly fighting over stuff like this. It’s an Irish affair and should be dealt with by Irish people in my opinion. Good luck Ireland, From the UK
@@fyrdman2185 If people wish to stay then they can. But it’s up to the people of Northern Ireland, not outsiders. My point is that I’ll respect their opinion either way.
@@fyrdman2185 It's because english people don't want them. If they did a referendum in England to get rid of NI, I'm pretty sure it would pass. The same way there is a good part of people in RoI that don't want them either.
@@ahind1234 because English don't even know our own history let alone the complicated one of Northern Ireland. If they knew the unionists are actual British people they would support them.
This video in a nutshell: An American found out he has Irish heritage, tells everyone he’s Irish (lol he’s not) and claims to know everything about culture and life in Ireland
At what point did he say he was Irish or even Irish-descended? At what point did he say he knew everything about Ireland? God, you people are so miserable. No wonder so many Irish migrated all the way to North America and Australia, presumably in many cases to be as far away as possible from Ireland.
@@TheMagicJIZZ How so? If they don't say anything about any ancestral links to Ireland, how can you tell they're a plastic paddy exactly? You guys are so desperate to gatekeep, you make it up sometime when it's not even there. Let's be honest, when someone from someplace not depressing, like California, Massachusetts, or Australia, shows mild interest their ancestry from your gray, muddy, sad island, you secretly love the chance to tell them they're not part of your exclusive club.
Ballachs The British in Ireland were mainly the wealthy. They didn't mix with the Irish. Underr the Plantation of Ulster the loyal British, English speaking protestant tenants were also prohibited from intermarriage with the native Irish Despite the passage of time, a lot of that division of identity remains in NI
@@Adaman368 myself being from central England, you find that if you ask around, everyone has a nan or grandad whose Irish. I feel the “hatred” stems mostly from the bad times and in sport but I like to think we’d always have each other’s backs 🇬🇧🤝🇮🇪
@@TDI-87 it tends to be that there are load of Irish located in the port cities or around them. More specifically the western port cities facing Ireland but port cities none the less.
This is wrong I am from Northern Ireland. It happened when William of Orange came over from Holland on behalf of the queen. The queen got William of Orange to Invaded the island. After this 26 out of the 32 counties were handed back thus leaving the six counties. This then allowed for the plantation of Ulster. Since then different paramilitaries have formed such as the UVF and the IRA, one side is protecting the six counties to keep it Protestant, and the other side wanting the all Ireland back.
It was also a case that the Scottish borders (Border Reevers) were lawless and always stealing from their Northumberland neighbours. Removing the Reevers helped secure the borders and make the new Scottish king very popular with his subjects in the North of England.
@@NaysayKen read the reply, I said some did, but look at the majority of surnames in Northern Ireland. They are of Southern Scottish origin. Not from Northumbria.
It's also important to remember that the Plantations had started years before under the Tudors and that James I simply continued plans that had already been made by English parliamentarians.
@Lotsielots I don't think you understand what James's position was like in the early years of his reign in England. He was not an absolute monarch and he had to rely on the advice of his English advisors.
'Were there always unionists in the north?' Effectively, yes. The UK was formally declared in 1801. So there was a solid ~150 years of development of the 'Pro-British' population in the north before the declaration of the UK. There were unionists in the north since before the UK was founded.
Used to be many in the South too. Just look at the volume of Irish troops who willingly served King and Country in WWI, both catholic and protestant. Back when all Ireland was part of the UK.
Yeah and all descendants of colonists planted under the English Crown and later British British Crown from the 1600s onwards. The whole point of the plantations was to populate Ireland with loyal British English speaking Protestants in an an effort to destroy gaelic culture and subsume the native Irish. Well .lads hate to break it to ye - it didn't work Up until the 1790s the native Irish weren't even allowed to join the British army. Only when they desperately needed extra cannon fodder was that law changed. Most who signed up did so because they were pisspoor after near 500 years of being reduced to abject poverty and subsistence agriculture. And you wonder why the Irish were in a state of near continous uprising against their British overlords?
There wasn't just plantations in Ulster. They were really trying to replace the entire Irish population across the whole country. It's just that the only one that worked was the Ulster plantation. And as someone has already said, we're getting to the 50/50 mark in the population now so hopefully it won't be much longer before we're made whole again.
"made whole again" - not with the great replacement 2.0 which is currently sweeping Europe ( and especially Ireland). Oh let me guess it's a conspiracy theory... Well. If the Irish ancestors had listened to conspiracy theories 200 years ago. We wouldn't have a Northern Ireland ;)
Dude got the basics wrong, there's more Catholics than Protestants in the north and that shift of balance has only ever been going at that rate. To the point where a united Ireland isn't a pipe dream anymore
They did the same thing in the Malvinas islands, they forced away the locals and put their own ones and claimed the land for the crown. Same old colonialist straregy.
Bit different if they are from another country, and given the land of the native people, England wanted a protestant majority. ( Texas ,New York? ) you haven't acquitted yours well there 🤔
@@sharonprice42 at that period in history just as eu the uk was open to movement within its countries.ireland was one at that time.james was rc his own daughter a protestant both soveigns.many of those called planters were refuguees first or second generations mixed with British at that time be they irish.scots.welsh.manx.english
@@supercroc8172the guy is explaining the Ulster plantation. He’s stating historical facts lol. English and Scottish settlers colonized north east ulster, Ireland.
Hes right. Do you have a hard time accepting Britains colonial past? You think anglos and Scot’s are native to Ireland? No, they colonized it during the plantation of ulster. Google is free. Go and do a fact check lmao
The Protestant/Catholic thing has been an issue in Europe for hundreds of years. I'm not sure many really care about that anymore, they tend to have different reasons to hate each other. Did you know Northern England saw a large influx of Irish people which changed the genetic and linguistic characteristics of the local area. Liverpool and Manchester to name two. Ireland has a second consulate in Manchester because of its large Irish community.
@@Ash-ve8hh Most of England is not Liverpool and Manchester and we're not all working class either. So no most English people don't have irish ancestry.
@@fyrdman2185 well at least a significant proportion of people have at least *some* irish ancestry. At least from what i've read. And I never said that all of england is working class...
@@Ash-ve8hh Well I'm just saying, most of the people descended from the Irish in England comes from the underclass usually from the North West like Liverpool and Manchester.
By this same logic there were not always Irish Republicans in Ireland, therefore their opinion does not matter. The idea that somehow the Irish in the rest of Ireland are "purer" adn therefore only their opinion matters is complete brain rot. It was part of the UK for hundreds of years all parts of Ireland will have had people moving to and from Britain to Ireland, liverpool for instance has loads of Irish decedents as do many parts of the UK. Even then some how the case that the Republicans/Catholics will have scared off Unionist/Protestant Irish or discriminated against them which is pretty undeniable that it happened is either considered fine as "well there not real irish people so they dont matter" or just totally ignored. SO strange that its a onesided argument about how 'muh evil english and when convient scottish' do something bad, the IRA of course cant be attributed at all with violently trying to alter the demograhics of NI or even back before the Free state gained indepenece then had a civil war that wouldnt at all have seen any remaining Unionist/Protestant Irish people run for their lives from the nut jobs blowing the country to shit. Im sure somehow the Irish Civil war is all the fualt of mug evil english of course. The fixation on the Scottish plantations is extremely selectively used to imply some sort of eternal hatred of the Irish when a more realistic answer is that the land being owned by a Scottish lord meant it was easier for the Scottish lord to rule over Scottish people rather than Irish people, so he imported them over to work his land for profit, not as some long con attempt to genocide the Irish. Also British was not an identity back then, most certainly he wasnt doing it to further some nationalistic ethnic imperialism in the early 1600s, the UK didnt even exist until 1707 a hundred years later and neither did the concept of nations really exist back then. This exact sort of thing is extremely common for the time period and happened a lot of time everywhere else. Likewise the Potato blight is made out to be some sort of genocide when it was pretty clearly just incompetence and bad luck like the Bengal famine. Both instances have been massively warped into being intentional acts by the UK to be some cackling villain as it boosts the Irish/Indian nationalists arguments regardless of how accurate that portrayal is. The Americans did the same thing with the "Boston Massacre" which was riot of few hundred people hurling rocks at like 4 or 5 cornered guys, one whom got spooked fired their gun and the rest of them followed suit. This resulted in 5 people dying and was spun into an epically over the top piece of propaganda, sound familiar?
That warped view of the victor writes the history. When you're banned from speaking your native tounge on penalty of death along with practice of one's faith on penalty of death, to be driven of your land so a foreign landlord who was loyal to foreign crown could take your land and tax the locals to starvation and if not "To hell or to connacht" (a craggy rocky province of Ireland pretty useless for farming) - the choice given to the rightful Lords and high Kings of those same plantations you speak of. Just as before you had wessex, east anglia, northumberland, Durham and other counties raided by the vikings. But they didn't pull the tactics you lot pulled! The vikings just saw you as an easy touch and raided and tried to settled your on your lands by way of conquest! Your lords kings and queens most definitely tried to rub us out by way of sending armies against peasants barely surviving! Rape murder torture and confiscation of all livestock, granaries, and other foods was standard to supply soldiers in their galleys of the west coast. (Contrary to what you were told or believe we had more than just potatoes had we been left be) I went to school in England and Ireland and I know what they teach you and what's left out, and I must say your ancestors were some of the cruelest mf to walk the earth. I don't care about Catholics or Protestants nationalism or unionism but a wicked bunch of imperialist scum there ever was. You'se tried or did f over everyone you could subdue. The Irish, Chinese, India, African nations and tribes, Australia (as your prison col) and lastly America. That essay of shite is what's taught "that you did us a favour and civilised these lands" or that "Scottish Lords were sent to leads Scots men" is the propaganda you're spouting. A bunch of cruel, narcissistic, lice ridden, unwashed, clap dripping phycos as most empires that came before were. But for the monarch to claim head of the Anglo chuch because of a failed annulment of his marriage by the then pope so he could remarry is beyond a freak. It was more than likely his fat gout ridden ass that couldn't deliver an heir caused this sacrilege act. Not that I adhere to Catholicism but to break off and declare yourself God's word on earth because of erectile dysfunction or shooting blanks is the epitome of an insane inbred. Seriously the vikings done way more for this nation than England ever did including naming our capital to trade route and wealth we'd never known before but left these settlements and moved on or some stayed intermarried as norse gaels and lived in harmony.
Regarding the famine, its generally believed that it's not a genocide, but its hard to not understand why people think that when you have people like trevelyean who said "the judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson". There's a famous quote by John mitchell during the time stating "The Almighty, indeed, sent the potato blight, but the English created the Famine", this is entirely true, the mismanagement that allowed the famine to happen was both intentional and non-intentional. At the very least, it could of been severely mitigated if not for the intentional raising of exports, prices and evictions in order to get more money.
@@davokelly7876 whilst it is true that there were ordinances against the Irish language, they were of limited enforcement, and even more limited effect. The main reason the language practically died out was because, pragmatically, English became far more useful. Another issue, one Irish like to forget, is that there were extremely complicit in the empire. being the most active colonists and for a significant time. The Irish are not guilt free in regards to imperial endeavour.
@@TheVampireWizard nonsense. Many people vote according to their wallets and pensioners etc will not vote for anything which will leave them worse off. Though the Republic looks wealthier, it is also a good deal more expensive to live in. Will Northerners get the higher pensions and benefits Southerners get? If so where will the money come from? Will they get free healthcare? All these questions need answered before any referendum.
No it is not a protestant majority. This has changed this good few years. Catholic are in majority, that is another reason why catholic Sinn Fein have taken over the head of Northern Ireland Assembly, previously headed by protestant DUP, who consequently refuse to take their seat. I hope it will be in my lifetime, that the people of northern Ireland vote for alternative parties not religious ones.
My father was one of the first British troops in Ulster in 1969 and did multiple tours of Belfast until he retired in 77. Both of my brothers did multiple tours of Ulster in Belfast and Londonderry until British Troops were withdrawn from N.I. and full control was handed over to the PSNI (Police Service Northern Ireland)
So much more context needed! Indeed. Acts of Union, Wealthy landowners, historical legacies, Glorious Revolutions - I have "longs" aka regular videos on many of these things.
I'm from Dublin Ireland the majority of the 6 counties of "Northetn Ireland" are not protestant its roughly even but in the next 20 to 30 years it will be predominantly Catholic I just thought u need to know this thanks
@@boohoo79 I think many Catholic and Protestant people have finished with all religion as they recognise it as a method of controlling people for their own aims . People are less gullible than they were a few generations ago and see religion as a way of brainwashing people .
as an irish person, i request that you, as an american or whatever the fuck you are, do not try to cover the topic of Anglo-Irish relations and history as its just too complicated for your simplistic brain to understand.
It's annoying when people come along and label Irish as victims and how the people in the north are evil oppressors. I'm from Northern Ireland, I consider myself northern Irish, our culture is a mixture of both British and Irish yet we are considered oppressors and people should say that our way of life should be ruined to allow for a united Ireland which would both destroy our economy and cause people to be greatly underpaid while also being charged more in tax. Just leave us alone and mind your own business.
I’m British too and I live in England but this also really pisses me off too because the media spreads all this shit without the faintest clue of the real picture. The annoying level of ignorance really pisses me off, I spend countless hours trying to educate people (mostly Americans) of the situation but ofc many Americans are blindly pro-Republic of Ireland because they ‘think’ they descend from the Republic of Ireland and I think to myself ‘if you care about the Republic of Ireland you should care about Northern Ireland too since they share a history.’ 🤦♂️ people’s ignorance really annoys me but fortunately once explained many people realise they’ve been seeing it all wrong usually because the mainstream media in America doesn’t explain the situation well
The settlers in the north were historically very much the oppressors though? I'm not saying northern irish protestants are bad people, but catholics in northern ireland were very oppressed, and looking at Ireland as a whole, things like the Penal laws, protestant ascendancy, etc., show that they very much were the victims
Yes Ireland should be united.. and I’m sure will be Over here in England the country is going to hell in a handcart.. so it’s s good idea to distance away from this crappy place!! There will be no England soon..
Theres a lot more history than whats been mentioned here... Also how come the boarder is only blinking when showing NIs boarder not the republics? Feels kinda leading...
nice northern Irish people have lovely accents , my mother took my brother and I to see man utd in a hotel in Winchester when they were playing the saints in the late sixties I was eight and what stuck was what a nice friendly person George Best was !! 🌳⚽️⚽️🐸🐕🌻🍋🍅🍄🌳
I live basically right on that border line on the South side as a loyalist I can say there isn't many likeminded people around me honestly even in the North it's about 50/50 unfortunately. it can feel a bit bleak at times but when the 12th comes round and you see so many ulster banners and British flags flying high its a great feeling
Idk if he's speaking facts to the British in NI or having a potty mouth to the Irish or its pure facts (BTW fun fact:I was born and raised, and still am being raised, in Northern Ireland)
I heard it wasn’t JUST to keep them loyal to the crown, his intentions were to completely replace Catholicism in ireland (which was what ireland consisted of entirely) with Protestantism (which the United Kingdom consisted of), which in turn caused the north of Ireland to be predominantly Protestant, creating a divide in opinions to this day
The best thing is, it was Protestants that built a lot of the chapels on the north coast. The same ones that Protestants shot up during funerals. Good ole English for ye
We already have. And Islamic people from Middle East, Subcontinent and Africa. Quite a few Chinese have been here for decades but not many are religious.
@@seandoherty925Well, if they aren’t from Taiwan it makes sense most Chinese aren’t religious, considering the whole communist parties view on religion.
@@lukesalvidge118 England never colonised Ireland on the British empire days The other commenter is correct. English? Sort sort of settlement happened with English republic Cromwell and previous English kings. There are English founded towns from the 12th to 15th century This is before the UK even existed but with the pope's consent that catholic England ruled Catholic Ireland The irony is England didn't really colonise Ireland with English settlers at all from 1801 onwards
it's pretty simple to understand if you watch the video, the protestants who are the unionists are of British descent and so want to remain part of the UK, the catholics are the native Irish who want to join the republic. It's got nothing to do with religion, it's ethnic conflict.
mostly nonsense There is no majority of protestants in the North, and many support an United Ireland.Sinn Fein is the largest Political Party followed bt DUP Protestant party.neither of which have the majority. There is also the Alliance Party and the SLDP party, both cross sectarian. So please...so much is said of Northern Ireland ,most is nonsense including this clip. If you don't know dont open your mouth
As of the last census there’s actually more catholics than protestants and the last two elections have seen neither explicitly nationalist or unionist parties win a majority of the vote
Maybe cause of “the troubles” and people don’t want to restart a new war ending the good times they have now, and don’t try to pretend whatever inflation and economic trouble we’re going through now is somehow worse than ending up looking like another Ukraine with IRA bombs going off with British military convoys, installations and helicopters patrolling everywhere in Northern Ireland and having checkpoints to check for IRA members.
Correct! The Catholics (native Irish) now outnumber the Protestant settlers. 🇮🇪
@@cryptarisprotocol1872 and uvf members, they were terrible to
Hey it’s the UDA who are doing the attacks now just this last weekend. Proddies waving the bloody shirt about the IRA when the UDA and UVF are just as bad (plus you know all the genocide and stuff)
Unionists are more open minded and are moving away from religion, Catholics as slow learners by will with time follow that trend. In today's news another priest is under investigation.
Ireland's history is the kind of thing you need to be 100% sure about before bringing up. It's a very intricate topic that many people are rightly sensitive about.
Good luck getting anywhere close to accurate to begin with. Every side has a story and none of it links up and all of it is inherently biased in one way or another.
It's why I look at the politics of this country and just say "Nah fuck that, I'd need a PhD in this shit to even get close and probably still be wrong"
It's way too much shit to sift through I'm just tryna god damn live
And this guy clearly did his research because everything he said about the history is correct, what’s the issue?
@@imperatorscotorum6334 None that I could see, I was just commenting off my own experience.
@@imperatorscotorum6334 As of the 2021 census, there are more Catholics than protestants in Northern Ireland, 45.7% to 43.5% respectively but he claims that protestants are in a majority. This is the case for the first time since Northern Ireland came into being in 1921and why many are calling for a referendum to reunite the island of Ireland as soon as possible.
And what did he say that was wrong other than Protestants being a majority?
He actually described the Plantations and it's end goal and NI State set up as "Protestant land for a Protestant people" as James Craig, one of the founders of the state actually stated.
This guy has united both communities, both agreeing that he's wrong about everything... A valuable addition to the peace process.
what's he wrong about?
@@fyrdman2185they can't answer
What's he actually wrong about except the fact that Catholics now outbunber protestants
Haha so true 😂😂 he has actually achieved something that is no mean feat, getting people here to agree on something.
Ya, he's up there with John Hume et al 😂
Last statement is false. Northern Ireland is now Catholic majority and the majority political party is Sinn Fein which is an Irish nationalist/socialist party that has its main goal on supporting all of the island as a single nation and state. Ireland will reunite soon
Good. England will save money. 😂😂
United Ireland ❤❤❤❤❤
Don't forget the Sinn Fein the political wing of the IRA!
The Unionist vote was split between several parties and Sinn Fein was the single largest that was all.
False lol, Sinn Fein can't even get elected in the South or the North. The Christian religion is dying across the board.
Southern Ireland don't want northern Ireland, it will cost them too much.
Northern Ireland has a lot government jobs , its a loss for the uk to keep ' norn iron'.
The NI situation is far too complex to put in a short
most subjects are, the format is built to make profit from outrage and misinformation
What’s a good book about it
@@amb600cd0 Well, that and animal/comedy shorts.
The guy needs to look up census data.
@@sagaronyoutube Too complex a question to ask. Too many perspectives to ask. After the Arab-Israeli conflict it is the next most written about conflict in a confined space. I am not really interested in the political or civil rights or negotiations aspects. I am interested in the intelligence/military aspect or the proxy war between the Polit Bureau in Moscow and CIA and Mi5. Northern Ireland was psychological operation by the state of a small community in lockdown. I am neutral but I am fascinated the lesser characters you rarely hear about. Fr Michael Ryan, Capt Robert Niraic, John Phoenix, Rose Dugdale, the arms trial, . New books on the shelf are Bandit Country and the Yank. Can't think of the human rights solicitor killed in 1986 with military collusion, Billy Wright, Bernadette Devlin, Martin Manseragh,Billy Hutchinson, Michael Stone, David Irvine.
Rev Ian Paisley, Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness, John Hume have all been written about and over analysed to death.
I love the confidence of Americans even when they are factually incorrect.
Just because he's confidently incorrect does not mean it's because he's American.
@@ScottJB correlation friend
He also probably keeps insisting he's Irish. 😊
Marvellous fountain of knowledge American, how many Americans especially the Irish/Americans in Boston who dream of the “old country” can actually find Ireland on an Atlas?
Funny as fuck they all think they are Irish Americans as well
Not any more. Currently, 51% of population in the North of Ireland is actually Irish Catholic, making them the majority. 🙂
45% catholic actually...
@@xcutepikax 45.7% Catholic vs 43.5% protestant & other Christian faiths to be precise.
@@bobbyreilly5394 I stand corrected. Thanks!
Yes if you count nursery n nursing home
Soon to be islamic
As a brit: Short answer.
The Northern Irelanders have both British and Irish nationalities.
I have to correct you but the majority of population is not Protestant. If checked out the latest Census in 2021 you would have seen that there is 45% of the population is Catholic to 43% Protestant. This is the first time since the formation of NI that Catholics are in the majority. To say that overall population is pro unionist that vey much up for debate. A lot has changed in recent years especially since UK left the EU.
I was going to have to comment this but now I don't so thank you
Good to know give Éire back to the Irish.e
@@Thomas-lg6jx define Irish. The first president of Ireland was Protestant and Micheal Colin’s was non-denomination raised in a Protestant household in London but still lead the charge for Irish independence and became the free states first provisional leader. Catholic does not mean Irish. Nor does Protestant mean British. A majority of polls show people support remaining part of the United Kingdom at the moment.
@@cammysmith7562 Define Irish sure St.Brigit
Catholic speaks Gailic & is a fighter.
@@Thomas-lg6jx a majority of the original IRA weren’t Gaelic speakers. And a lot of Protestants fought and died for Irish freedom. How about you learn the actual history of the island before spouting useless sectarian shite.
The confidence whilst being incorrect is amazing
Your dad was confident he’d pulled out of your mum on time … 🤷🏻♂️
He's spot on about them not always being there. They shouldn't be.
@@ofaoilleachain who said that is what I was referring to?
100% 😂 😂
@@patrickbutsmart Whats he wrong about then ?
This is what happens when Harry Potter gets an American education
Says “the Englishman” who’s never studied Irish history
@@imperatorscotorum6334says the lefty who don’t know what a woman is
@@Gypsygeekfreak17brilliant LOL
@@Gypsygeekfreak17a woman is someone who identifies with female gender, therefore leftists can define woman better than right wingers😁
@@Sabatonfan911 what does female mean then?
Not "pushing the people off their land" More like Murdering the people and stealing their land.
Man got his facts from the back of a cereal box 😂
Bro graduated history from Walmart
@@naxmax5634☠️😅🤣🤜🤛
he got his education by playing big brain academy
Probably "Lucky Charms" 😂
Never knew cereal boxes were so informative
Definitely one of those "Irish Americans" 😂😂😂
America is a country so great that everyone there claims to be from somewhere else. Nobody just says yeah I am American, they always have to prefix it with whatever country their great grandparents came from
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer Which makes it all the more tragic that they wil casually p1ss on immigrants who can't wait to call themselves Americans.
What a mess.
No such a thing as Irish American you are either Irish or American
@@Soldmysoulforablurayplayer Imagine so confidently not understanding American culture. There are people whose American families came from Ireland or Italy a century ago who are very culturally different from my American family in terms of traditions, religion, outlook, etc. Irish and British usually assume they understand the diverse and massive America from watching US movies and sitcoms 🤡
@@ivanshipy1966 Irish-American is its own ethnic group separate both from other American ethnic groups and the Irish. Irish don't get to define it or gatekeep it because it's not theirs. I thank God I'm not one of them because the Irish are insufferable and can't stay in their own lane.
If the Irish vote to become one island that's entirely their prerogative. A democratic vote must be respected. Like Brexit.
Westminster would never allow it, especially after the close Scottish vote and Brexit
@@leopheard Good Friday already sorted that. Northern Ireland is free to leave whenever there is a majority in favour of it; at any time. The UK will never be able to stop the GFA from happening; nor should they be able to
Yeah like how Scotland voted to stay in the EU
It’s a pity Irish “independence” wasn’t subject to a referendum. Irish Home rule was passed in 1914 and would have come into effect after WW1. Instead, some idiot hotheads rebelled on Easter 1916. Thousands died in the ensuing wars, and today we have the north which has been racked by violence and the republic which is a vassal state of the EU.
@@TransportSupremo
Scotland didn't vote to stay in the EU, thats just Nationalistic nonsense. It was a British wide poll where every vote was equal and all of Britain voted by a majority for Brexit.
You could say there are irish in the UK ,but no one complains
Billions billions
It amazes me that I moved to Ireland at eight (my mother is full Irish) from England and I got harassed and beat up for being English meanwhile… they ran to my previous hometown for help in the past 🙄
Bro graduated from lies University
Bro is American.
They graduated from "Don't Know American History University" first and foremost.
From there it's pretty hard to be objective about the rest without a rigorous deprogramming and reeducation.
American public school education is basically nationalist propaganda and barebones employment skills mixed with a daycare center - that's the only sane way to sum it up.
He is correct
@@patrickf2671 he is not correct,theres way more Catholics than prods in the north and that's actual facts
@@awooga6600there may be a distinct correlation between religious beliefs and unionist vs nationalist affiliation, however, with more people becoming more non-religious and as religion in general has become less important it is difficult to say whether more catholics definitely means more nationalists. There are many mixed families, and I myself know a few unionists who converted to Catholicism due to them preferring it on a spiritual level. Sinn Fein won the last election, but it must be remembered that the unionist vote was split far more than the nationalist vote. Just thought I’d remind people that it’s difficult to say what’s what exactly. History barely understands this place
@@awooga6600 I think that he said that in a round about way
Catholics are actually the largest group in Northern Ireland now. I wouldn't say most people in Northern Ireland are unionists, although the majority to support remaining as part of the United Kingdom, it is more for pragmatic reasons, rather than ideological reasons.
Yes, correct. The era of protestant supremacism is over, but NI may persevere on the status quo effect.
No, unionist are. Unionists still make up the majority of the northern Irish assembly and the majority still identity as British. Protantism is just a dieing branch of Christianity.
@@jim-es8qk all branches of Christianity in Europe are dying because Christians are being replaced
Not really for pragmatic reasons you find that alot more catholics are unionist than protestants are nationalist. Also you find that the majority of the atheist community in NI is predominantly converts from protestantism. Also yes it is pragmatic that we stay in the UK but the debate is mostly ideological the pragmatism is just a bonus
Being Catholic doesnt mean very much with todays post religion seculars.
The people you are referring to are the people Americans call “Scotch Irish”. You also might like to know that the western coasts of Britain were colonised by Irish people in the 5th and 6th centuries after the collapse of the Roman Empire. The Irish settlers/colonisers brought with them many aspects of what we think of as characteristically “Scottish”…the bag pipes, the crafts and most importantly the language. The language we call “Gaelic” in Scotland is the same language as the language we call “.Irish” in Ireland…the Goidelic branch of the Celtic family of languages. Both these languages are still in use. Even the name of Scotland is Irish…the “Scotti” were one of the groups from Ulster who settled in the south west of Scotland but gave their name to the whole country…..”scotti-land”. The “ Mac” surnames so common in both Ireland and Scotland mean “son of”…. The cultural, linguistic, genetic links between Britain and Ireland can be shown to have been active for at least 6000:years. And close. St Patrick was British, for example.
Oh
Your incorrect yourself. The Celtic languages existed on the British Isles before Germanics went over. Also the “ Irish colonialism “ of the coast of great Britain wasn’t colonialism. It was migration there was a united irish identity at that time let alone the capacity to colonize.
Thats not even relevant in itself too. The discussion isn’t about scotland it’s about ireland which is still seeing affects of colonialism today…
@@LanaDelReysBabe I think you misread me. There are two great “branches” of Celtic language…Brythonic and Goidelic as they are referred to today. As first sources Dawn the Goidelic branch seems to be confined to Ireland and the Isle of Man and the Brythonic branch much more widespread not just in Britain but contains the Celtic languages that once covered modern day France, and elsewhere on the continent. Irish colonies in the west of Britain brought the Goidelic branch to Britain where it stuck in Scotland but failed to take root in Wales. Also I think you mean to say there was NOT a United Irish identity then. No, of course not, but there was a United Irish culture….archaeology shows this…and numerous smaller kingdoms and yes, if Irish sources are to be trusted, the colonising was done at that level. There’s lots to read on this fascinating period.
@@LanaDelReysBabe As I pointed out…you cannot disentangle the past histories of the peoples of this archipelago or the people themselves by running up a few flags…
At the 2021 census, the prevalence rates for the main religions were: Catholic (42 per cent); Presbyterian (16 per cent); Church of Ireland (11.5 per cent); Methodist (2.4 per cent); Other Christian or Christian-related denominations (6.9 per cent); other Religions and Philosophies (1.3 per cent);
A huge number of these settlers from Scotland were not "sent" by King James in any plan to secure Ireland but were MacGregors forced out of Scotland after a war with the Campbell clan. James even banned the name MacGregor. They had to flee to escape persecution and death and many went to Ireland.
Connor MacGregor comes to mind
No Campbells involved. The Macgregors murdered members of the Clan Colquhoun.
Also lawless border reivers were "encouraged" to colonise Ireland as mercenaries by King James. The alternative was to be treated as criminals for their border raiding and hung/drowned. I have Armstrongs on my mothers side that went over to ireland, while the more respectable ones eventually became engineers in NE England.
That would explain a lot in M3.
@@101MRSPICEthat's why we ve been lumped with c McGregor! Ffs
This really needs a fact check
I wouldn't be so hard on him, hes trying. nobody understands the problems of NI least of all the people living there, including myself.
I like how many people in the comments say he's wrong, but I can't find a single one of them saying why he's wrong and what the truth is. Good job arguing your point of view folks. I'm sure you're going to convince everyone who's ignorant on the topic.
@@L3monstaIt's like he woke up drunk from a night out and scrambled to write his university thesis with two hours to go. 90% he is right on. It used to be approximately 65% Protestant/Unionist versus 35% Catholic/Nationalist in my childhood. There has been a recent population/voting swing to nationalism. This could in theory swing to trigger the Good Friday agreement where the population could determine who governed them i.e. a plebasite. In Northern Ireland there is no real manufacturing on scale, it's all civil/public service and tourism jobs. Completely on the tit to the tune of over £10 bn a year. So peace is being bought. That is not sustainable. Northern Ireland is not sustainable as its own state so it would have to join up with the republic who have a massive debt from the last banking crisis, housing problems, role for unionists, flag issues,...... Too many issues.
The only factual inaccuracy was that the 2021 census showed that for the first time there are fewer Protestants than Catholics in Northern Ireland. As for some suggestions that he was wrong to say a majority are pro-unionist, if that were the case then in accordance with the terms of the Good Friday agreement, Northern Ireland would be free to vote to rejoin the republic.
@@L3monsta - Unionists are no longer the majority. There, did that for you.
An American making a video on ireland im sure everyone will love it
Yes, I’m sure the comments will be completely fine.
The Americans all love it. I’m seeing “Free Eire” a lot…
Yeah, totally
He speaks the truth and sometimes the truth hurts
Hurts who? The only people thag care is Ireland and NI reform are people from these countries. If they want to make it happen then wicked doesn't bother anyone else.
I work with touring crews that come over to play gigs and several of them have asked me "So what's the deal over here?" And have had some of them say that their management explicitly told them they shouldn't say certain things when here.
So they were more or less asking me "is this an area where you shouldn't say something like X"
And I'm just like "Dude I fucking live here and I don't even know which things should and shouldn't be said to whom, your best bet is to not mention a thing unless someone else brings it up and even then, if you aren't certain they're joking around, just leave it"
Don't try to wrap your head around this countries situation, you can get both sides of the stories, connect all the dots and still be wrong, but piss off everyone in between. It ain't worth it.
I used to date a girl who was protestant and her family lived on both sides of the border. Most of them wanted a united Ireland. Recently many northern Irish people are atheists and there are more Catholics than Protestants in Northern Ireland. When I lived there most people were not that interested in whatever country Northern Ireland should belong to, to many that question was just not that interesting.
That must have been before brexit tho
I expect most people just want what works and doesn’t lead to violence.
The confidence whilst also being wrong as amazing
He's right though
He is correct
Oh look another comment calling him wrong but explaining how he’s wrong
The bullshittery by posting this and not explaining where he's wrong is impressive. (ie: He's not actually wrong!)
Everybody in the comments keep saying hes wronhg, but none of them actually say what it is he said that was incorrect
Since 2023 the majority of people in NI are Irish & Catholic & support a united Ireland 😊
Good video until the end. The majority of citizens in Northern Ireland are catholic and the recent general election was a landslide win for Sinn Fein (the Irish political party.)
Please stick to speaking about US history, you have no clue what you are talking about here.
The comments are the actual entertaining part of this video 😂
Absolute agreed! The amount of history and political experts on this thread is a joy to see!
Mostly experts in their imaginations and nowhere else I’m afraid.
Any vid about NI or the Balkans means a good time to grab the popcorn and dive into the comments
@@idealicfool True! I absolutely love the replies from all sides!
Irish tears always are refreshing.
Even on a video that says nothing about the conflict just why there was a protestant population they start their usual shit again😂
As someone who is Irish, genetically so, going back 1000's of years, I was raised as British in the UK ( northern ireland) but as ive gotten older, I see myself ss Irish. It's stupid to say Scottish farmers came over and moved the real Irish out of the North. A lot of unionists are the same as me, have Irish genetics going back many generations. The old I get, the less I care. I'm Irish.. but I will have whatever passport I have to avoid bloodshed again. I don't care. Patriotism is something the rich use to get young lads to butcher each other. In Ireland, be whatever you want...Live and let live.
Nah screw the crown. Monarchs out. Long live the republic
Ulster Scot’s aren’t genetically
best thing ive read today
Ulsterman till I die long live the king
@@pilotpandashot your Irish ya clown, ya live in Ireland
You have pissed both the english and irish off well done 😂
Ethnic Cleansing is what we would call the plantation of Ulster today. It rarely ends well.
Bxxxcks! All non-conformists suffered in Ulster. Presbyterians came from Scotland looking for religious freedom. Both Catholics and Presbyterians suffered as a result of tithing laws which meant they had to pay a financial contribution to the established church ie Church of England. As a result the first ever rebellion in Ireland was in 1798...led by Wolfe Tone ( a Protestant from Dublin). This rebellion consisted of both protestants and catholic citizens living in Ireland. Please learn YOUR history before you spout victimist nonsense.
People of Catholic background now out number Protestants in Northern Ireland.
It's time to bring more unionist settlers into NI 😂
aye but that doesn’t mean anything, a good chunk of those catholics are foreigners from eastern europe, specifically poland who will obviously have no real allegiance to irish nationalism, the fabric of the north and the conflict itself is not the classic “catholics vs protestants” it’s irish vs british
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 you have never met the polish if you think they don’t support irish nationalism
And yet polls indicate on my around 20% of the population wants to join the Republic of Ireland.
@@darnellbiggumsthe9th658 same can be said for all the British protestants, their not meant to be here therefore falsely propping up unionist votes, the polish are only balancing out the mess the British made sending a load of people who don't belong here over
They were Scots - Irish people
They came from the lowlands of Scotland and were Scottish and English descent
They settled and took land from the Irish landowners known as ‘the plantation’
These mainly English and Scottish settlers were later known as the Scots - Irish as in from Scotland to Ireland
The Irish in Scotland ,what are they doing there?
@@Stephen-lx9nm the Irish over a thousand years ago were known as the ‘Gaels’ - back then over 1500 years ago, some set sail from Ireland raiding and pillaging ‘Caledonia’ now known as ‘Scotland’ they were invaded by these Gaels in vast numbers.
The indigenous Caledonians were Pictish Celtic tribal people. They fought battles with the Gaels known to them as ‘the Scotis’ these Scotis then claimed the land and named it land of the Scotis (Scotland)
So essentially the Irish and Scot’s are the same tribe
He doesn’t look as if he’s descended from the First Nations in the US to me. Interesting
Actually the majority is pro nationalism right now and Sinn Fein (Irish party) has the most seats
And yet polls indicate on my around 20% of the population wants to join the Republic of Ireland.
Sinn féin are no longer nationalists. It truly pains me to say it but they don't give a dam about the Irish people.
@@karlbyrne6021can you explain?
@@ruthdubh the country is 92% white in the free state and 97% white in the North?
@@ruthdubh Sinn Féin party member here by the way 👍
Where do you think the Scots originally came from before they colonised northern Britain?
Germany/Netherlands. Lowland Scot was a divergent culture of Anglo-Saxon that become distinctive in the 9th century after the invasion and colonisation of Northern England by the Scandinavians.
Your thinking of the Highland and Ilse Scots that were Irish colonial descendents.
@@dessertfoxo4096 Ingenious answer, but centuries too late. The inhabitants of Hibernia were known as Scotos by the Romans, and after centuries of raiding and migration they came to dominate the west of what came to be known as Scotia Minor (now just Scotland).
Norway/Denmark etc is 1 place especially up northern Scotland, the lay of the land is very similar to back home for them, also the Picts were around before the Scandinavians came across, still today quite a mysterious group of people who again, inhabited the very North & parts of the East of Scotland, personally since so little is known I'd guess that they came from Doggerland which is all underwater now but once connected us to mainland Europe, I guess at that so don't take it as fact.
@@marksnow7569 Scot’s are just Anglo Saxon
Which Scots?
The Picts, the Celts, or the Germanic settlers that spread Old English langauge to Nortern Britain long before Edward I invaded?
Scotland's history is no less simple than that of lower Britain - but we know for sure that peoples known to the Roman invaders as the Picts were there centuries before Dal Riata was founded.
It's not like that anymore after 2021. Catholics out number protestants now for the first time 🎉😀🇮🇪🇮🇪
This video left out the depopulation of Northern Ireland during the nine years war. Bands of English soldiers roamed the countryside slaughtering men women and children at will, burning homes and destroying livestock. To make way for the planyers
Hahaha, what is this nonsense?
Whilst they might want to stay part of the UK, Unionist in Northern Ireland don't "pledge allegiance to the Crown." A pledge of allegiance is not a thing in the UK except for those being granted citizenship.
It’s a thing if you’re joining the armed forces and plenty of other things if it’s in some way serving the country.
All uk citizens are beneath the crown. If you dont like that then get rid of the monarchy
@@chesterdonnelly1212 I'm Irish and had to do it. British military pays better. 😅 Best decision ever.
Coronation pledge wasn't mandatory but ...
Two quick additional points:
- The planting of Ireland occured across Ireland, but was much stronger in the North. The borders of Northern Ireland were drawn to capture an area that had a strong Protestant majority, but there were Protestants significant numbers of Protestants outside of this area.
- Due to several factors, such as emigration of Protestants to the rest of the UK, and Catholics normally having more children, the Protestant majority of Northern Ireland has now reversed. Northern Ireland now has a plurality of Catholics at 46% of the population, while the number of Unionists vs Republicans is probably on a knife's edge.
I think it's unlikely that Northern Ireland will still be in the UK in fifteen years time, regardless of how Brexit and the Northern Ireland protocol go. It is physically attached to the rest of Ireland, and time just isn't on the side of the Unionists.
Thanks for the info. Do you know anything about what has happened /will happen with the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic, since Brexit?
@@h077y Well, a lot has happened. There have been attempts to negotiate and re-negotiate the Northern Ireland protocol, which regulates the flow of goods between Northern Ireland, and the rest of the UK and the Republic of Ireland.
The EU wants to be able to control which goods go into the customs union. The Republic of Ireland is part of the EU and the customs union, so that goods legally sold in one part of the EU can be sold in another part of the EU without dodging regulations or the common external tariff. Since the UK is no longer part of the EU or the customs union this presents a problem. Britain isn't so concerned about goods coming into the UK from the EU.
Everybody agrees that we don't want a return to the days of a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, so that leaves us with having a soft border in the Irish Sea, and maybe a soft border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, which is obviously much harder to enforce.
The more checks and regulations you put in place on trade between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland the more it annoys Republicans who wish to unite with ROI. The more of a soft border you have in the Irish Sea, the more it annoys Unionists, who feel that a border in the Irish Sea is a way of de facto taking NI out of the UK.
And then there are the practical issues with the soft borders. One example that was quite popular in the press is that for a long time it was very difficult to get British sausages in Northern Ireland because they were very difficult to export (I'm sure that even using this word could annoy someone) to Northern Ireland.
Not especially relevant, but I would say that British sausages are quite different from the ones you get in Europe. Ours tend to be stuffed with unsmoked meat, some seasoning, and sometimes plants, like onion or apple. I once had an 'English breakfast' in an EU country, and they gave me a chorizo sliced in two. It was nice, but not an English breakfast.
@@JoffesThoughts thanks, that’s a nice little snippet!
@@JoffesThoughts unification is a lot more complicated than people think. Both Cyprus's want unification but voted down a plan. Will a united Ireland be a unitary state? Will Ireland vote on a deal that allows the UK a say in north Ireland the way the UK allows Ireland to have some say in north Ireland
@@williamthebonquerer9181 Once a Border Poll passes you won't see Westminster for dust, they will have absolutely zero interest in continuing to be involved. As for a unitary state - by definition we are talking about a point where Unionism (already a minority) has then lost a NI-wide vote to stay in the UK. And it is Unionism that has been preventing the functioning of Stormont, mostly precisely because they can no longer control Stormont and would have to accept a SF First Minister. What possible justification is there for retaining the broken and dysfunctional NI polity, long-term? I mean there'll doubtless be a transition period of 5-10 years as the two jurisdictions are integrated but think about it, would Unionists even have any interest in keeping an SF-dominated "NornIrn" in existence, or would it make more practical (and emotional) sense to simply deal direct with Dublin, who they would probably see as more honest brokers with less baggage than Northern SF?
To claim that the majority of the population of the illegally occupied territory known as northern Ireland is majority unionist proves you should not be speaking on this subject
I live in Ireland, you are very wrong here.
The settlers were brought in to farm the land by the irish lords of the time, they were given land and were allowed 25% of their crop, when the land was prosperous and crops were plentiful the Irish lords tried to take the land back, hundreds of families were slaughtered, you can read about it in trinity college in Dublin, it’s also marked in various other documentation of the time.
The incident in Portadown at the bann river where 96 protestant women and children were drowned by Irish militia lead to the Cromwell invasion.
That’s when the sanctions started.
It’s been tit for tat ever since.
If you only read the victor's propaganda and call it history.
I’m a catholic from Northern Ireland and I go to a catholic school and there’s a constant fear you’ll get jumped for wearing your school uniform in public and I’m sure it’s the same with Protestant community’s and schools
What is a woman?
@@artseosamhogriobhta you don't know?
@@KiwiSentinel I do. It's a nice question to ask people to see how far they're willing to delude themselves.
I'm not a religious person but I'm a protestant, we don't get jumped as much since the 70s.
Little known fact but there are also remnants of the old ascendancy families in the Rep of Ireland as well. They are called the Anglo Irish, some of them date back to the Norman conquest of Ireland led by Strongbow in 1169
And many of them are still very pro-UK.
Aye, but you can spot a West Brit from a half mile.
yup. And nobody cares about them. They live on their shrunken estates and cause no bother. We are a nice people. We dont bother them. Gradually they will become more Irish.
The Anglo-Irish date back to the plantations of Ireland the Norman invasion that's nonsense.
@@Maestro4759 yeah and they are still Anglos
Northern Ireland was Unionist because the Brits gerrymandered it.
You forgot to mention that when Ireland won her freedom from the British Crown the government in Britain drew a line around the area that they felt would be most populated by British loyalists, so the jerymandered the constituency for the vote on wether to be an independent sovereign nation, thus laying the seeds of division in the hope they could return and exploit this division in a future attempt to regain lost parts of their empire.
The same tactic was used in the middle east (former Palestine) and in India (Kashmir)..
You mean palestine
This man deadass gets his sources from his dreams
He is correct
@@patrickf2671 thank you
@@ZeldaJ Yes, you are correct
Or from history books, try reading one
Just because somebody is talking about history doesn't mean he is making stuff up? I don't get why on every video I see people talking about history, there is always a comment like this. It's so stupid.
Ok. Now talk about the summer of 69
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Honestly if Northern Irish people wish to unite then they should do it. It just want to see people happy and not constantly fighting over stuff like this. It’s an Irish affair and should be dealt with by Irish people in my opinion.
Good luck Ireland,
From the UK
did you not watch the video? How is it an Irish affair when there are British people living there who are loyal and want to remain part of the UK.
@@fyrdman2185 If people wish to stay then they can. But it’s up to the people of Northern Ireland, not outsiders. My point is that I’ll respect their opinion either way.
@@Apathy.Apathy. Sure, they're the only based part of UK anyways.
@@fyrdman2185 It's because english people don't want them. If they did a referendum in England to get rid of NI, I'm pretty sure it would pass. The same way there is a good part of people in RoI that don't want them either.
@@ahind1234 because English don't even know our own history let alone the complicated one of Northern Ireland. If they knew the unionists are actual British people they would support them.
Bro probably has like a friend who’s great great grandfather was Irish American and now thinks he is fully Irish.
This video in a nutshell: An American found out he has Irish heritage, tells everyone he’s Irish (lol he’s not) and claims to know everything about culture and life in Ireland
At what point did he say he was Irish or even Irish-descended? At what point did he say he knew everything about Ireland? God, you people are so miserable. No wonder so many Irish migrated all the way to North America and Australia, presumably in many cases to be as far away as possible from Ireland.
@@ScottJB you can tell a plastic paddy from anywhere
@@TheMagicJIZZ How so? If they don't say anything about any ancestral links to Ireland, how can you tell they're a plastic paddy exactly? You guys are so desperate to gatekeep, you make it up sometime when it's not even there. Let's be honest, when someone from someplace not depressing, like California, Massachusetts, or Australia, shows mild interest their ancestry from your gray, muddy, sad island, you secretly love the chance to tell them they're not part of your exclusive club.
@@ScottJB I’m not Irish lad but you seem a bit rattled
@@SwillMith16 If you're from any of the large islands in close proximity to Ireland, same shit as far as this topic goes. Irish are just worse.
You’d find it almost impossible to find an Irish man with no British blood and vice versa
Ballachs
The British in Ireland were mainly the wealthy. They didn't mix with the Irish. Underr the Plantation of Ulster the loyal British, English speaking protestant tenants were also prohibited from intermarriage with the native Irish Despite the passage of time, a lot of that division of identity remains in NI
@@TDI-87 ah fair enough
@@TDI-87 It does. Guinness sold in Britain is a very different drink lol.
@@Adaman368 myself being from central England, you find that if you ask around, everyone has a nan or grandad whose Irish. I feel the “hatred” stems mostly from the bad times and in sport but I like to think we’d always have each other’s backs 🇬🇧🤝🇮🇪
@@TDI-87 it tends to be that there are load of Irish located in the port cities or around them. More specifically the western port cities facing Ireland but port cities none the less.
This is wrong I am from Northern Ireland. It happened when William of Orange came over from Holland on behalf of the queen. The queen got William of Orange to Invaded the island. After this 26 out of the 32 counties were handed back thus leaving the six counties. This then allowed for the plantation of Ulster. Since then different paramilitaries have formed such as the UVF and the IRA, one side is protecting the six counties to keep it Protestant, and the other side wanting the all Ireland back.
Left a few centuries out
So its the fault of the Scottish then?
They started it!!!
It was also a case that the Scottish borders (Border Reevers) were lawless and always stealing from their Northumberland neighbours. Removing the Reevers helped secure the borders and make the new Scottish king very popular with his subjects in the North of England.
Borderers are from both sides not just the Scottish side.
@@NaysayKen there may have been some, but in Northern Ireland there are more Scottish surnames than orthern English or Irish ones.
@@roberw1912 no the reivers came from both England and Scotland
At least spell it right
@@NaysayKen read the reply, I said some did, but look at the majority of surnames in Northern Ireland. They are of Southern Scottish origin. Not from Northumbria.
@@roberw1912 the Scottish borders was part of Northumbria. They're the same people as the English border reivers
Important to remember the King then, James I was Scottish...
It's also important to remember that the Plantations had started years before under the Tudors and that James I simply continued plans that had already been made by English parliamentarians.
He made the decision to continue. His choice. Can't blame it on past Monarchs.
@Lotsielots I don't think you understand what James's position was like in the early years of his reign in England. He was not an absolute monarch and he had to rely on the advice of his English advisors.
@@alicemilne1444 The Plantations of Ulster was an English prject the scottish were just their lapdogs.
Cromwell's invasion was a pretty big thing too. Forget to mention that?
Not true. The population is at least 50/50 ...heading towards majority Catholic.
'Were there always unionists in the north?' Effectively, yes. The UK was formally declared in 1801. So there was a solid ~150 years of development of the 'Pro-British' population in the north before the declaration of the UK. There were unionists in the north since before the UK was founded.
Used to be many in the South too. Just look at the volume of Irish troops who willingly served King and Country in WWI, both catholic and protestant. Back when all Ireland was part of the UK.
Yeah and all descendants of colonists planted under the English Crown and later British British Crown from the 1600s onwards. The whole point of the plantations was to populate Ireland with loyal British English speaking Protestants in an an effort to destroy gaelic culture and subsume the native Irish. Well .lads hate to break it to ye - it didn't work
Up until the 1790s the native Irish weren't even allowed to join the British army. Only when they desperately needed extra cannon fodder was that law changed. Most who signed up did so because they were pisspoor after near 500 years of being reduced to abject poverty and subsistence agriculture. And you wonder why the Irish were in a state of near continous uprising against their British overlords?
@@portsmouth1781 lots in cork
@@portsmouth1781 most did it because the Irish were dirt poor and there were no other jobs going. Not because of any loyalty to the crown
There wasn't just plantations in Ulster. They were really trying to replace the entire Irish population across the whole country. It's just that the only one that worked was the Ulster plantation.
And as someone has already said, we're getting to the 50/50 mark in the population now so hopefully it won't be much longer before we're made whole again.
Yeah I live in a plantation village, 90% full of British cops and prods still to this day 😂
That’s why they nato loving huns should leave
"made whole again" - not with the great replacement 2.0 which is currently sweeping Europe ( and especially Ireland).
Oh let me guess it's a conspiracy theory... Well. If the Irish ancestors had listened to conspiracy theories 200 years ago. We wouldn't have a Northern Ireland ;)
Sounds like ethnic elitism to me?
Dude got the basics wrong, there's more Catholics than Protestants in the north and that shift of balance has only ever been going at that rate. To the point where a united Ireland isn't a pipe dream anymore
They did the same thing in the Malvinas islands, they forced away the locals and put their own ones and claimed the land for the crown. Same old colonialist straregy.
why does no one ever mention Ireland has only ever been 1 country once and that was when it was in the british empire
There’s ppl who are pro-Uk but also pro Ireland and are neither strictly unionist nor nationalist
so alliance voters
If someone from texas moved to new York do you call them a planter
Bit different if they are from another country, and given the land of the native people, England wanted a protestant majority. ( Texas ,New York? ) you haven't acquitted yours well there 🤔
Well when people from South America try to come to the US, Trump calls it an invasion, so there is that.
No I don't call anyone planter.its offensive
@@sharonprice42 at that period in history just as eu the uk was open to movement within its countries.ireland was one at that time.james was rc his own daughter a protestant both soveigns.many of those called planters were refuguees first or second generations mixed with British at that time be they irish.scots.welsh.manx.english
You've just won that of the year with that question 😆
Americans, even when they're factually wrong, still have the confidence as if they were right. So emotive, so visceral, so wrong.
You mind telling me why he’s so incorrect? I keep seeing these claims all over the comments section without any explanation why.
@@supercroc8172the guy is explaining the Ulster plantation. He’s stating historical facts lol. English and Scottish settlers colonized north east ulster, Ireland.
Hes right. Do you have a hard time accepting Britains colonial past? You think anglos and Scot’s are native to Ireland? No, they colonized it during the plantation of ulster. Google is free. Go and do a fact check lmao
@@supercroc8172 Nothing he said from a historical perspective was wrong. It's just planters are trying to cover up the facts.
The Protestant/Catholic thing has been an issue in Europe for hundreds of years. I'm not sure many really care about that anymore, they tend to have different reasons to hate each other. Did you know Northern England saw a large influx of Irish people which changed the genetic and linguistic characteristics of the local area. Liverpool and Manchester to name two. Ireland has a second consulate in Manchester because of its large Irish community.
Religion is just a happenstance in the modern day. The issues are all relating to national identity.
i think in general you would struggle to find people in england who dont have at least *some* irish in them tbh...
@@Ash-ve8hh Most of England is not Liverpool and Manchester and we're not all working class either. So no most English people don't have irish ancestry.
@@fyrdman2185 well at least a significant proportion of people have at least *some* irish ancestry. At least from what i've read. And I never said that all of england is working class...
@@Ash-ve8hh Well I'm just saying, most of the people descended from the Irish in England comes from the underclass usually from the North West like Liverpool and Manchester.
Erin go Bragh
Viva Ireland 🇮🇪 ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️
So Glad there’s a comments section to correct this horse shite.
And not one mention of the troubles or any of the thousands who have lost their lives.
By this same logic there were not always Irish Republicans in Ireland, therefore their opinion does not matter.
The idea that somehow the Irish in the rest of Ireland are "purer" adn therefore only their opinion matters is complete brain rot. It was part of the UK for hundreds of years all parts of Ireland will have had people moving to and from Britain to Ireland, liverpool for instance has loads of Irish decedents as do many parts of the UK.
Even then some how the case that the Republicans/Catholics will have scared off Unionist/Protestant Irish or discriminated against them which is pretty undeniable that it happened is either considered fine as "well there not real irish people so they dont matter" or just totally ignored. SO strange that its a onesided argument about how 'muh evil english and when convient scottish' do something bad, the IRA of course cant be attributed at all with violently trying to alter the demograhics of NI or even back before the Free state gained indepenece then had a civil war that wouldnt at all have seen any remaining Unionist/Protestant Irish people run for their lives from the nut jobs blowing the country to shit. Im sure somehow the Irish Civil war is all the fualt of mug evil english of course.
The fixation on the Scottish plantations is extremely selectively used to imply some sort of eternal hatred of the Irish when a more realistic answer is that the land being owned by a Scottish lord meant it was easier for the Scottish lord to rule over Scottish people rather than Irish people, so he imported them over to work his land for profit, not as some long con attempt to genocide the Irish. Also British was not an identity back then, most certainly he wasnt doing it to further some nationalistic ethnic imperialism in the early 1600s, the UK didnt even exist until 1707 a hundred years later and neither did the concept of nations really exist back then.
This exact sort of thing is extremely common for the time period and happened a lot of time everywhere else. Likewise the Potato blight is made out to be some sort of genocide when it was pretty clearly just incompetence and bad luck like the Bengal famine. Both instances have been massively warped into being intentional acts by the UK to be some cackling villain as it boosts the Irish/Indian nationalists arguments regardless of how accurate that portrayal is.
The Americans did the same thing with the "Boston Massacre" which was riot of few hundred people hurling rocks at like 4 or 5 cornered guys, one whom got spooked fired their gun and the rest of them followed suit. This resulted in 5 people dying and was spun into an epically over the top piece of propaganda, sound familiar?
Thank you. A voice of literacy and sanity
That warped view of the victor writes the history. When you're banned from speaking your native tounge on penalty of death along with practice of one's faith on penalty of death, to be driven of your land so a foreign landlord who was loyal to foreign crown could take your land and tax the locals to starvation and if not "To hell or to connacht" (a craggy rocky province of Ireland pretty useless for farming) - the choice given to the rightful Lords and high Kings of those same plantations you speak of.
Just as before you had wessex, east anglia, northumberland, Durham and other counties raided by the vikings. But they didn't pull the tactics you lot pulled!
The vikings just saw you as an easy touch and raided and tried to settled your on your lands by way of conquest! Your lords kings and queens most definitely tried to rub us out by way of sending armies against peasants barely surviving! Rape murder torture and confiscation of all livestock, granaries, and other foods was standard to supply soldiers in their galleys of the west coast. (Contrary to what you were told or believe we had more than just potatoes had we been left be)
I went to school in England and Ireland and I know what they teach you and what's left out, and I must say your ancestors were some of the cruelest mf to walk the earth. I don't care about Catholics or Protestants nationalism or unionism but a wicked bunch of imperialist scum there ever was. You'se tried or did f over everyone you could subdue. The Irish, Chinese, India, African nations and tribes, Australia (as your prison col) and lastly America.
That essay of shite is what's taught "that you did us a favour and civilised these lands" or that "Scottish Lords were sent to leads Scots men" is the propaganda you're spouting. A bunch of cruel, narcissistic, lice ridden, unwashed, clap dripping phycos as most empires that came before were. But for the monarch to claim head of the Anglo chuch because of a failed annulment of his marriage by the then pope so he could remarry is beyond a freak. It was more than likely his fat gout ridden ass that couldn't deliver an heir caused this sacrilege act. Not that I adhere to Catholicism but to break off and declare yourself God's word on earth because of erectile dysfunction or shooting blanks is the epitome of an insane inbred. Seriously the vikings done way more for this nation than England ever did including naming our capital to trade route and wealth we'd never known before but left these settlements and moved on or some stayed intermarried as norse gaels and lived in harmony.
@@davokelly7876 and everyone in hole Europe see British oligarhy exactly acording your description..
Regarding the famine, its generally believed that it's not a genocide, but its hard to not understand why people think that when you have people like trevelyean who said "the judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson". There's a famous quote by John mitchell during the time stating "The Almighty, indeed, sent the potato blight, but the English created the Famine", this is entirely true, the mismanagement that allowed the famine to happen was both intentional and non-intentional. At the very least, it could of been severely mitigated if not for the intentional raising of exports, prices and evictions in order to get more money.
@@davokelly7876 whilst it is true that there were ordinances against the Irish language, they were of limited enforcement, and even more limited effect. The main reason the language practically died out was because, pragmatically, English became far more useful.
Another issue, one Irish like to forget, is that there were extremely complicit in the empire. being the most active colonists and for a significant time.
The Irish are not guilt free in regards to imperial endeavour.
The last census in Northern Ireland there were more Catholics, though some of them may be unionists
None of them are Unionists.
@@TheVampireWizard nonsense. Many people vote according to their wallets and pensioners etc will not vote for anything which will leave them worse off. Though the Republic looks wealthier, it is also a good deal more expensive to live in. Will Northerners get the higher pensions and benefits Southerners get? If so where will the money come from? Will they get free healthcare? All these questions need answered before any referendum.
@@seandoherty925 Unionism has Protestant values at its core. Anybody who doesn't see that, is silly.
More catholics but less irish. Also, more than half of catholics are unionists.
@@TheVampireWizard many are though
Actually, the census has changed and Catholics outnumbered protestants. Sinn Féin when the election and is the largest party in the six counties.
No it is not a protestant majority. This has changed this good few years. Catholic are in majority, that is another reason why catholic Sinn Fein have taken over the head of Northern Ireland Assembly, previously headed by protestant DUP, who consequently refuse to take their seat. I hope it will be in my lifetime, that the people of northern Ireland vote for alternative parties not religious ones.
Give Ireland back to the Irish
lmao, no
@@HaloHunter2552I'm from Dublin it will happen a United Ireland 32🇮🇪 within 15 to 20 years
@@boohoo79 we hope so!
@@mindblower8774 Where are u from?
@@boohoo79 doesn’t matter, the entire Island of Ireland belongs to the people of Ireland.British imperialism must end!
And here come the RA comments 🙄
That part at the end isn't even accurate anymore.
I had to check when this was made, and I was honestly a little disappointed to see that it's new.
My father was one of the first British troops in Ulster in 1969 and did multiple tours of Belfast until he retired in 77. Both of my brothers did multiple tours of Ulster in Belfast and Londonderry until British Troops were withdrawn from N.I. and full control was handed over to the PSNI (Police Service Northern Ireland)
Thank you to your family, I know it wasn't an easy place to be. We did appreciate you keeping us safe.
this guy must of gone to the same school as biden
O'Biden
Everything he said about the history is 100% accurate planter, cope.
@@Ionlytellthetruth of course mr potatoe head
So much more context needed! Indeed. Acts of Union, Wealthy landowners, historical legacies, Glorious Revolutions - I have "longs" aka regular videos on many of these things.
I think a UA-cam short is the wrong format for such a delicate and nuanced subject which will likely cause upset to many viewers.
I'm from Dublin Ireland the majority of the 6 counties of "Northetn Ireland" are not protestant its roughly even but in the next 20 to 30 years it will be predominantly Catholic I just thought u need to know this thanks
@@boohoo79 I think many Catholic and Protestant people have finished with all religion as they recognise it as a method of controlling people for their own aims . People are less gullible than they were a few generations ago and see religion as a way of brainwashing people .
as an irish person, i request that you, as an american or whatever the fuck you are, do not try to cover the topic of Anglo-Irish relations and history as its just too complicated for your simplistic brain to understand.
Nope, there's no longer a protestant majority, it's time for a united Ireland border poll
Nope, latest consensus shows there are now more catholics than protestants.
It's annoying when people come along and label Irish as victims and how the people in the north are evil oppressors. I'm from Northern Ireland, I consider myself northern Irish, our culture is a mixture of both British and Irish yet we are considered oppressors and people should say that our way of life should be ruined to allow for a united Ireland which would both destroy our economy and cause people to be greatly underpaid while also being charged more in tax. Just leave us alone and mind your own business.
So true
I’m British too and I live in England but this also really pisses me off too because the media spreads all this shit without the faintest clue of the real picture. The annoying level of ignorance really pisses me off, I spend countless hours trying to educate people (mostly Americans) of the situation but ofc many Americans are blindly pro-Republic of Ireland because they ‘think’ they descend from the Republic of Ireland and I think to myself ‘if you care about the Republic of Ireland you should care about Northern Ireland too since they share a history.’ 🤦♂️ people’s ignorance really annoys me but fortunately once explained many people realise they’ve been seeing it all wrong usually because the mainstream media in America doesn’t explain the situation well
The settlers in the north were historically very much the oppressors though? I'm not saying northern irish protestants are bad people, but catholics in northern ireland were very oppressed, and looking at Ireland as a whole, things like the Penal laws, protestant ascendancy, etc., show that they very much were the victims
Ireland should be reunited
Fuck no.
Look what happened in the 1970-1990s.
@@Deimos_PeanutFlavourThe Troubles had nothing to do with unification.
It started with civil rights marches and ended up in a bloody feud.
@@Adaman368 The shit is too complicated for its own good.
@@Deimos_PeanutFlavour Well that's also true lol.
Yes Ireland should be united.. and I’m sure will be
Over here in England the country is going to hell in a handcart.. so it’s s good idea to distance away from this crappy place!! There will be no England soon..
While there are some. They aren’t as common as the pro United Irish.
Theres a lot more history than whats been mentioned here...
Also how come the boarder is only blinking when showing NIs boarder not the republics? Feels kinda leading...
nice northern Irish people have lovely accents , my mother took my brother and I to see man utd in a hotel in Winchester when they were playing the saints in the late sixties I was eight and what stuck was what a nice friendly person George Best was !! 🌳⚽️⚽️🐸🐕🌻🍋🍅🍄🌳
I personally try not to get stuck in a time warp or get lost in space
I live basically right on that border line on the South side as a loyalist I can say there isn't many likeminded people around me honestly even in the North it's about 50/50 unfortunately. it can feel a bit bleak at times but when the 12th comes round and you see so many ulster banners and British flags flying high its a great feeling
Idk if he's speaking facts to the British in NI or having a potty mouth to the Irish or its pure facts (BTW fun fact:I was born and raised, and still am being raised, in Northern Ireland)
I heard it wasn’t JUST to keep them loyal to the crown, his intentions were to completely replace Catholicism in ireland (which was what ireland consisted of entirely) with Protestantism (which the United Kingdom consisted of), which in turn caused the north of Ireland to be predominantly Protestant, creating a divide in opinions to this day
The best thing is, it was Protestants that built a lot of the chapels on the north coast. The same ones that Protestants shot up during funerals. Good ole English for ye
many irish simply converted
espacily thanks to advantages in inheritance
You will soon have lots of Hindus coming from India .
We already have. And Islamic people from Middle East, Subcontinent and Africa. Quite a few Chinese have been here for decades but not many are religious.
@@seandoherty925Well, if they aren’t from Taiwan it makes sense most Chinese aren’t religious, considering the whole communist parties view on religion.
We're being invaded by the third.
Britain has had Hindu and Sikh Indians living here for well over a century.
@@G1NZOU only a handful before the wars . Although Muslims had the first mosque in the 1800s but Muslims had been around since the 1700s.
Ireland with northern Ireland looks like bird🤯🤯🤯
Teddy bear 🧸
That doesn't seem like the case when they choose which passport to get.
There has always been English people in Ireland wtf lol
Eh, not in the numbers before the colonisation
No there hasnt
No..
@@lukesalvidge118 England never colonised Ireland on the British empire days
The other commenter is correct. English? Sort sort of settlement happened with English republic Cromwell and previous English kings. There are English founded towns from the 12th to 15th century
This is before the UK even existed but with the pope's consent that catholic England ruled Catholic Ireland
The irony is England didn't really colonise Ireland with English settlers at all from 1801 onwards
@@TheMagicJIZZ the colonisation of Ireland by the English was from 1536 to 1691 👍
When he showed his face, it said it all.
It was the glasses for me
The protestant/Catholic deal it’s a bit weird for Americans to understand. So this Protestant from America is for Ireland.
it's pretty simple to understand if you watch the video, the protestants who are the unionists are of British descent and so want to remain part of the UK, the catholics are the native Irish who want to join the republic. It's got nothing to do with religion, it's ethnic conflict.
mostly nonsense There is no majority of protestants in the North, and many support an United Ireland.Sinn Fein is the largest Political Party followed bt DUP Protestant party.neither of which have the majority. There is also the Alliance Party and the SLDP party, both cross sectarian. So please...so much is said of Northern Ireland ,most is nonsense including this clip. If you don't know dont open your mouth