Hello. I have a couple thoughts. When you do the HLP well, for a middle/ middle pitch, your arms should not have to move much. Even for middle low/ high a lot of the adjustment is with the tilt of your pelvis. The hands can adjust up for a very high pitch or across a bit for deep inside and out for outside, but generally the arms should not be used much to adjust. If you are having to use arms, it's probably one of a couple things. 1. Maybe you need to understand the concept deeper. Or 2. If you understand the concept well and are trying to apply it with high intensity, a common flaw is for the upper body to outpace the lower body (rear hip turning). If this happens, you will HAVE to use arms more and this will result is worse contact and often more grounders where we want line drives. When training, it is important to go at a pace that the upper and lower body stay in sync with each other. Stronger faster swings will progress as you get better at staying together. Good luck and God bless. PS spend a few hours scrolling teachermans twitter feed. Lots of meh banter, but scattered nuggets of golden advice!
Can you go into a little more depth on the tilt move? I think I end up just tilting my shoulders instead of my whole torso, but I am have trouble figuring out how to do that.
Hi there! Yes, the tilt can be tricky. You need to teach yourself to fuse your entire upper torso so that it all moves/tilts as a block. One way that I find helps is to 1. tighten your obliques so they are engaged and not just soft and bendy. Then get into your athletic posture (with moderate hip hinge), and then flex your lower back like you would to kind of stick your butt out a little. This should help fuse up your back. Then from there, be cognizant of your tilting movement so that you are not just bending around in your mid waist region. Hope this helps!
@@jasonryan9599 Thank you! Can i also ask you about the coil? I’m having the same issue with my hip. When I try to cool around the rear leg, my hip just kind of dislocates and doesn’t stay stacked to my leg. Is there any way to make sure my leg stays stacked while I coil to keep the tension in my leg?
@@orinh.3622 Hi again. Sorry I'm not sure what you mean by dislocates. You can send a video to me at jasonryan1776@gmail.com. The key to keeping tension in the hip/leg is to not let the femur roll backward while you coil. So as your hip pulls back, your lower leg matches the force forward like a tug-a-war. If you do it right, when you are coiled you will feel it on your big toe. If wrong, your foot will be trying to roll over the little toe.
Hey Jason, my son has been working on the HLP swing for a while and we’ve had trouble keeping his front elbow down. It seems like he want to use his elbow to help snap the barrel rearwards. Do you have any thoughts on this or drills to help? Thank you.
For the love of God HLP is trash . There is no snap! And if ur teaching kids this u are screwing them over. NOBODY SNAPS IT! They have a tight connected turn . That's the correct way to turn the barrel
It’s easy to torque a 3/4” piece of PVC. My 12 year old daughter does that fine. It’s a different story with even a drop 11 28” bat. That is the toughest part of the whole mechanic for her.
There is certainly an element of finding the right size/weight bat for the hitter. However most often when I see struggles like this it is because the hitter is putting too much effort into barrel torque and the rear hip elements break down. At the end of the day, the barrel needs to get into the hitting zone as quick as possible. When the HLP is working for a hitter, the rear hip is doing like 70% of the work to bring the barrel (and whole upper torso) into the hitting zone thus leaving the barrel torque element to be very short. However when a hitter's rear hip isn't working right, then the upper torso is not making it into the hitting zone quick and efficiently. This means that the barrel torque portion has to do much more work to move the barrel farther. This in turn will result in a complete break down since the hitter will eventually have to push the rest of the way into contact... So I would recommend, stick with 80% barrel turn effort and then get better and better with the rearward launch and using the back to swing. When the rear leg is coiled and the back is swinging the bat, the rear hip will do all of the heavy lifting. Start slow, see and feel it working then slowly add intensity until it becomes easy.
@@brakemadness I feel you. The pattern works, the rear hip/rear leg is the key. It must work or everything else fails. I honestly believe the rear hip/rear leg interaction is the biggest sports discovery in a decade. It's revolutionary. Get that working and get it synchronized with a simplified barrel turn. Keep working. Pray for support, guidance, and breakthroughs! God bless!
As soon as possible. The HLP is the only swing mechanic that is not strength based. It is pure mechanic. You have to be more cleaver to teach young kids, but is worth it! www.tiktok.com/@gritnj/video/7133305481170292014?_r=1&_t=8UwgNgKCaLa&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7133305481170292014
very good job of breaking hlp down into baby bits
Sometimes when I do the swing, I pull my bat up out of the zone too soon, any advice? (I’m still new the to HLP)
Hello. I have a couple thoughts. When you do the HLP well, for a middle/ middle pitch, your arms should not have to move much. Even for middle low/ high a lot of the adjustment is with the tilt of your pelvis. The hands can adjust up for a very high pitch or across a bit for deep inside and out for outside, but generally the arms should not be used much to adjust. If you are having to use arms, it's probably one of a couple things. 1. Maybe you need to understand the concept deeper. Or 2. If you understand the concept well and are trying to apply it with high intensity, a common flaw is for the upper body to outpace the lower body (rear hip turning). If this happens, you will HAVE to use arms more and this will result is worse contact and often more grounders where we want line drives. When training, it is important to go at a pace that the upper and lower body stay in sync with each other. Stronger faster swings will progress as you get better at staying together. Good luck and God bless. PS spend a few hours scrolling teachermans twitter feed. Lots of meh banter, but scattered nuggets of golden advice!
@@jasonryan9599 You knew exactly what was wrong, thank you for the help!
@generaljohn9 you are very welcome! I pray you have great success. God bless.
@@jasonryan9599 amen
Great explanation of the HLP!
Whenever I make contact with the ball I feel like I drop my shoulders and pop up do you have any advice to help that?
Potentially turning the barrel below your hand not around your hand
good info and tips, thanks
Do you ever use resistance bands to help keep the hands close to the body?
I've seen Teacherman use something similar. It looks to be very effective.
Can you go into a little more depth on the tilt move? I think I end up just tilting my shoulders instead of my whole torso, but I am have trouble figuring out how to do that.
Hi there! Yes, the tilt can be tricky. You need to teach yourself to fuse your entire upper torso so that it all moves/tilts as a block. One way that I find helps is to 1. tighten your obliques so they are engaged and not just soft and bendy. Then get into your athletic posture (with moderate hip hinge), and then flex your lower back like you would to kind of stick your butt out a little. This should help fuse up your back. Then from there, be cognizant of your tilting movement so that you are not just bending around in your mid waist region. Hope this helps!
@@jasonryan9599 Thank you! Can i also ask you about the coil? I’m having the same issue with my hip. When I try to cool around the rear leg, my hip just kind of dislocates and doesn’t stay stacked to my leg. Is there any way to make sure my leg stays stacked while I coil to keep the tension in my leg?
@@orinh.3622 Hi again. Sorry I'm not sure what you mean by dislocates. You can send a video to me at jasonryan1776@gmail.com. The key to keeping tension in the hip/leg is to not let the femur roll backward while you coil. So as your hip pulls back, your lower leg matches the force forward like a tug-a-war. If you do it right, when you are coiled you will feel it on your big toe. If wrong, your foot will be trying to roll over the little toe.
Hey Jason, my son has been working on the HLP swing for a while and we’ve had trouble keeping his front elbow down. It seems like he want to use his elbow to help snap the barrel rearwards. Do you have any thoughts on this or drills to help?
Thank you.
Hi Kelly. Shoot me a clip at jasonryan1776@gmail.com and I'll take a look.
Kelly- When to much emphasis is placed on the swivel/turn or done out of proper sequence the front arm will become disconnected to the body.
For the love of God HLP is trash . There is no snap! And if ur teaching kids this u are screwing them over. NOBODY SNAPS IT! They have a tight connected turn . That's the correct way to turn the barrel
It’s easy to torque a 3/4” piece of PVC. My 12 year old daughter does that fine. It’s a different story with even a drop 11 28” bat. That is the toughest part of the whole mechanic for her.
There is certainly an element of finding the right size/weight bat for the hitter. However most often when I see struggles like this it is because the hitter is putting too much effort into barrel torque and the rear hip elements break down. At the end of the day, the barrel needs to get into the hitting zone as quick as possible. When the HLP is working for a hitter, the rear hip is doing like 70% of the work to bring the barrel (and whole upper torso) into the hitting zone thus leaving the barrel torque element to be very short. However when a hitter's rear hip isn't working right, then the upper torso is not making it into the hitting zone quick and efficiently. This means that the barrel torque portion has to do much more work to move the barrel farther. This in turn will result in a complete break down since the hitter will eventually have to push the rest of the way into contact... So I would recommend, stick with 80% barrel turn effort and then get better and better with the rearward launch and using the back to swing. When the rear leg is coiled and the back is swinging the bat, the rear hip will do all of the heavy lifting. Start slow, see and feel it working then slowly add intensity until it becomes easy.
@@jasonryan9599 Thanks Jason. That makes sense. Seems like the more we work on snapping the handle the more she ends up with a pushy rotation.
@@brakemadness I feel you. The pattern works, the rear hip/rear leg is the key. It must work or everything else fails. I honestly believe the rear hip/rear leg interaction is the biggest sports discovery in a decade. It's revolutionary. Get that working and get it synchronized with a simplified barrel turn. Keep working. Pray for support, guidance, and breakthroughs! God bless!
@@jasonryan9599 Do you do swing analysis?
@@brakemadness Hi Brian, shoot me an email jasonryan1776@gmail.com
At what age can a kid start learning this swing?
As soon as possible. The HLP is the only swing mechanic that is not strength based. It is pure mechanic. You have to be more cleaver to teach young kids, but is worth it!
www.tiktok.com/@gritnj/video/7133305481170292014?_r=1&_t=8UwgNgKCaLa&is_from_webapp=v1&item_id=7133305481170292014