I can’t believe I had to resort to looking this up. Thanks for the vid but Respawn needs to have someone in the studio revisit areas so they can feel what we’re feeling.
The only shitty part of this game i encountered so far. Its literally right next to the nightbrother village. There should be a connecting path you can access. Thanks for the vid!
Yeah yeah opening up a 1 year old thread again, but just wondering... Did they fix it? Because on my way back i found the elevator again, and was surprised to see that it goes down as well.
PSA for anyone needing to get back to the swamp for collectibles, this is the ONLY way I know of to get there. Don't try using logic and common sense by backtracking through the Nightbrother Dungeon, NOPE NOPE NOPE, that would make too much sense! When you get the one wooden bridge that you scaled underneath heading one direction, the game decides that you aren't allowed to travel in the other direction. You jump up and your hands literally hit the thing you are supposed to grab, but NOPE SORRY! Not sure if this is just a bug or intended, but you are completely wasting your time trying to get back to the swamp the way you left it the first time.
Yup, waisted about 20 min trying to figure out a way to get back to the part where you slide down to the swamp coming from the nightbrother village but no that’d be to simple smh
I just spent the last 5 hours before finally swallowing my pride and looking to UA-cam. A lot of the love I had for this game has been lost going for this Platinum trophy, all because of poor map design and no fast travel.
Good lord the level design in this game is hot garbage. So many one-way streets. Shortcuts aren't actual shortcuts. And the map... I hope I never see a map like this in a game ever again.
holy shit. thank you for this video. if you just jump down that slide at 0:30 it kills you but if you climb on that vine for one second it doens't. didn't think to try that. i was going maaaad
Thank you for posting this. I got everything in the Swamp, left and forgot to go to Witches Horn. Spent 40 minutes trying to find my way back and gave up. This has to be the most frustrating level of any video game I've ever played.
I spent so long trying to get back to the swamp for the items. After an hour I was frustrated and gave up. I thought wow I really must be dumb! Glad to see it's not just me.
At least you found this video so you're not wasting an hour trying to backtrack through Nightbrother Dungeon, only to realize that there is either a bug, or more likely terrible bad level design.
Thanks for the video, it helped. A tip for the rest of you: You can't fast travel into [insert place], but you can always fast travel back to the ship or wherever you want to go. The trick is to select a meditation spot, activate it, refill your health if you want to but it isn't necessary because it will respawn enemies. After this, do whatever you need to - collectibles, etc. When you feel you're done, INTENTIONALLY die to make the "Game Over, Respawn?" screen appear. Press Yes and the game will load you to the latest save you made, which is the one you chose. Tadaa, you just teleported all the way across the map. The only downsides are that 1) you will lose the XP buildup (but not your full points) and 2) you can't save at any other meditation point along the way (most likely to refill health). Or, you can, but it will make it the next spawn point so you are kind of ruining your purpose. Happy hunting!
Just want to chime in and vent on the general frustration of this game! I'd completed everything on this world except exploration, because apparently there was a tiny bit of rock in the swamp I'd foolishly failed to walk on. I had _no_ idea how to get back there - this video saved my sanity. Temporarily at least, still got some other explored areas to try and find.
First time playing this game and it's a little comforting to know I'm not the only one who was being gaslit into thinking getting back in there was going to be straightforward.
I really hate the backtracking in a game. Spent an hour at a location that should have allowed me to get here as it did before. Too bad all the access points are now blocked and there is now only one way to get here instead of multiple. I'm amazed reviewers have not talked about how clucky the map, travel and hunting for unlockables is. Waste of time.
Thank you so much man honestly helped me out a lot. I actually went the wrong way completely and had my game unplayable before i didn't trigger the area to load. So that resulted me to falling threw the map and making area's unaccessible ❤️❤️🔥🔥
For everyone reading this: you CANNOT backtrack via the Nightbrother Dungeon, but because of this: You actually CAN climb the bridge bellow and reach the Swamp, but once you get there the map doesn't load properly and there is no collision in the area. You literally fall through the map. Every. single. time. Dathomir completely convinced me that it was rushed and the devs didn't had the time to polish it up.
The first part where you jumped down the slide can be skipped. There's a shortcut right by the workbench where you started that takes you down and skips some of that stuff (assuming you activated it on your first run through the area and are just trying to go back for something).
Yeah there is that, but that’s the ONLY way to get back there and if you didn’t activate it when you first played then your fucked. What this guy did was not supposed to be possible since, if you tried to go down the slide, then you just die.
i almost quit the game after getting stuck her for so long going in circles. i loved the fallen order but some of these maps are so difficult and frustrating to navigate. its like you need to go down a level in order to get up one and turn left to go right. i almost sacrificed my controller to this place.
UGH THANK YOU. Honestly it would be a heck of a lot easier (to honestly include fast travel like everyone says ) if they just let you cross back on the pipe going underneath the bridge. However you can only use it when you are LEAVING the swamp of sacrifice. If you could go back the same way it would make the return there SO much easier
I LITERALLY broke the game trying to get to the swamp to explore, you can easily double jump and reach beneath the bridge which doesn’t load the rest of the level and breaks the gam3
Oh! Tip for the hall of Nydak, use the box in the corner of the room to your advantage. Keep force pushing the box into him and he’ll die after like 4 or 5 pushes
I hope they add some sort of fast travel in Survivor. Maybe have more landing platforms around the planet so you could go back to the Mantis and have Greez drop you off somewhere else
I hope to god Fast Travel can make it into the sequel. There’s no reason why a game in this age should work like something from the PS2/Xbox era. No lie, here & Zaffo made me lose hours from just backtracking smh.
Decided to come back to fallen order and 100% it before plying survivor…..I hate Dathomir. Not because of the enemies, granted those damn little poison spiders drive me insane, not because of the boss fight (which was cool af), Merrin is amazing too, it was the damn level design holy shit. I’m so glad I left Dathomir for last. No other map has this level of aggravation. The only planet I had to look up and it wasn’t even for an echo or chest it was for a whole ass portion of the map 😂. In conclusion, they should have put Maul there so I’d feel better 😂
Every time I touch the slide I die, don't know if it's a bug. But I'm annoyed that I can't get down there! Nvm, I did it exactly the way you did in this vid and it worked. Thank God cause I was ready just quit this game for good. Now I 100% this game!
I hate the fact that I was able to get into the swamp on my own, then literally 5 minutes after I forgot to grab the seeds and then spent about 10 minutes trying to find a way in and eventually gave up and came here
Videos like this are proof that fast travel is an absolute necessity in games like these. Backtracking mindlessly not having a clue how to get to multiple different locations is ridiculous in this game.
Thanks this helped me out a lot. Tried using a trainer to just super jump but nope you have to go through the little tunnel animation so it'll load the level properly. I figured I could just jump over the wall and slide down but nope you'll just slide down and fall through the map unless you waste your time going through all this. You'd think being a jedi he could just push the rock out of the way and go across the bridge.
No fast travel, glitched elevators cost me more time than I've spent actually playing the main plot. Good job EA, covering your tracks. You made a 4 h game, but no fast travel makes it 10 h. Splendid...
You can actually glitch inside the bridge by going to the Nightbrother Village and go under the area where the bridge is and jump while facing the wall on your right side. If you got it right, the game will glitch you at the top of the bridge. I did that using the ps4 version. Not sure if it works on the PS5 version.
In case anyone is trying to get BACK to the swamp, you have to go back down that long @ss mud slide ramp deal at the collapsed settlement, and thru the Halls of the Nydak like you did the first time. Keep going to that bridge you had to pull down (it will be down this time), cross the bridge and look left. That's another mud slide ramp you probably forgot about when Merrin and all the Nightbrothers are firing at you, and that takes you right back to the swamp.
Oh my fucking god I've dropped off that ledge like 5 times and I hit the fall barrier every time and respawned on the ledge. Why would it be so damn particular to make me *climb* down just a little bit before dropping?! 😡 Thank you for this video.
man playing the game after the story is so weird cause I don't remember these places being THIS hard to find during the story. hopefully they improve the level design and performance next game.
For Dathomir the map routes and enemies (granted it’s only the Night Sisters and the number of basic enemies goes up as well) completely change after you go through it once
yeah this didnt work for me, I knew the way back but cannot slide down the slide path in nightbrothers dungeon, I just fall through the floor and cannot make the slide jump
what a great idea... make the most convoluted complex map and then don't allow fast travel and force people who want to 100% your game to return to the locations because you don't give them all the skills needed to get all the collectibles the first time they get there
I can’t believe I had to resort to looking this up. Thanks for the vid but Respawn needs to have someone in the studio revisit areas so they can feel what we’re feeling.
Daniel Ornelas lol same
This part was made like shit , it's not even funny worst map design I ever seen in a game
austin I agree soooo bad
My thoughts exactly. I look at the map in dathomir and i have a fucking stroke
@@fabook1 The entire map system sucks. having each level transparent is literally the dumbest map design I've ever seen in a game.
This is why fast travel is important... I wish you would at least be able to fast travel to meditation points once you’ve finished the story.
But according to the people on Reddit fast travel ruins the immersion
@@borgchap1191 reddit is wrong and most of the people there seem to be wrong as if it were a profession
@@whit3y3s You are correct 100%
I second that.
@@borgchap1191 who thf cares? All the map layers are confusing asf and u just sit there for 2 hours trying to figure out how to get to certain areas
Thank you for making this video. Whoever was in charge of creating the levels and the map in this game should never touch a video game again.
Amen to that brotha✌🏻
The creator of the maps clearly followed Game Design for Dummies😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The only shitty part of this game i encountered so far. Its literally right next to the nightbrother village. There should be a connecting path you can access. Thanks for the vid!
Or make that stupid elevator go both ways.
Spent an hour at the village, waste of fucking time.
So true
@@ThisIsDjYigytugd I did so. I passed over two days playing the game, and looking for a pass way to the ruins at the village...
Yeah yeah opening up a 1 year old thread again, but just wondering... Did they fix it? Because on my way back i found the elevator again, and was surprised to see that it goes down as well.
Appreciate your guide. Holy crap revisiting the swamp is a mess
PSA for anyone needing to get back to the swamp for collectibles, this is the ONLY way I know of to get there. Don't try using logic and common sense by backtracking through the Nightbrother Dungeon, NOPE NOPE NOPE, that would make too much sense! When you get the one wooden bridge that you scaled underneath heading one direction, the game decides that you aren't allowed to travel in the other direction. You jump up and your hands literally hit the thing you are supposed to grab, but NOPE SORRY! Not sure if this is just a bug or intended, but you are completely wasting your time trying to get back to the swamp the way you left it the first time.
So is there no way back there. If I try using the method shown on this video I die just touching the slide.
Yup, waisted about 20 min trying to figure out a way to get back to the part where you slide down to the swamp coming from the nightbrother village but no that’d be to simple smh
This is absolutely infuriating. I want to punch whoever made the map - it's by far the worst enemy in the game.
Wish I had come here sooner. Cause I did exactly that.
My game is crashing in the Halls of the Nydak. Sooo idk how I'll get there now
You know the map design is bad when just trying to find it on the map is a pain
No, the map is bad when the only pathway to a specific location is NOWHERE NEAR the location that's literally right next to it.
One does not simply walk into The Swamp of Sacrifice.
Subtle
Cheers for doing this. Tryin' to find your way back when returning from ilum is not so straight forward.
All this just to get back to Witches Horn... loving this level design...
and then the pain of getting all the way back
I had to get the last seed and this annoying level design made me so freaking frustrated, I SPENT A WHOLE HOUR ON ONE SEED!
I just spent the last 5 hours before finally swallowing my pride and looking to UA-cam.
A lot of the love I had for this game has been lost going for this Platinum trophy, all because of poor map design and no fast travel.
Thanks for doing this, was tearing my hair out trying to get back for missing chests from the nightbrother village!
Good lord the level design in this game is hot garbage. So many one-way streets. Shortcuts aren't actual shortcuts. And the map... I hope I never see a map like this in a game ever again.
Unfortunately they did it again in the sequel 🥲
holy shit. thank you for this video. if you just jump down that slide at 0:30 it kills you but if you climb on that vine for one second it doens't. didn't think to try that. i was going maaaad
Thank you for posting this. I got everything in the Swamp, left and forgot to go to Witches Horn. Spent 40 minutes trying to find my way back and gave up. This has to be the most frustrating level of any video game I've ever played.
I spent so long trying to get back to the swamp for the items. After an hour I was frustrated and gave up. I thought wow I really must be dumb! Glad to see it's not just me.
..😑 I needed to come all the way back here to get the chest I missed in Witches Horn ..😑
At least you found this video so you're not wasting an hour trying to backtrack through Nightbrother Dungeon, only to realize that there is either a bug, or more likely terrible bad level design.
@@Narniak69 forsure. I'm saying th@s why I'm here, not that I wish you added chests. 😁 ik there's other vids for that.👍🏿
They should have a slide or something back to witches horn from somewhere
wuBs world i wasted so much of my life in the Nightbrother Village. i want to break my controller
@@Narniak69 I did the s a m e thing. I thought it was just impossible to get back there
Thanks bro , you helped i needed to return to pick up seed for the trophy
Thanks bro wish you the best in life
Thanks for the video, it helped. A tip for the rest of you: You can't fast travel into [insert place], but you can always fast travel back to the ship or wherever you want to go. The trick is to select a meditation spot, activate it, refill your health if you want to but it isn't necessary because it will respawn enemies.
After this, do whatever you need to - collectibles, etc. When you feel you're done, INTENTIONALLY die to make the "Game Over, Respawn?" screen appear. Press Yes and the game will load you to the latest save you made, which is the one you chose. Tadaa, you just teleported all the way across the map.
The only downsides are that 1) you will lose the XP buildup (but not your full points) and 2) you can't save at any other meditation point along the way (most likely to refill health). Or, you can, but it will make it the next spawn point so you are kind of ruining your purpose. Happy hunting!
I'm basically scared of everything so going to Dathomir for the Savannah poncho was such stressful experience
Just want to chime in and vent on the general frustration of this game! I'd completed everything on this world except exploration, because apparently there was a tiny bit of rock in the swamp I'd foolishly failed to walk on. I had _no_ idea how to get back there - this video saved my sanity. Temporarily at least, still got some other explored areas to try and find.
Omg thank you for this, i spent hours trying to find my way back last night. Your video help point me in the right direction, thank you 😁
That moment when you have been wasted your time but internet saves your life...
Thanks bro! You rock 🤘🏽
First time playing this game and it's a little comforting to know I'm not the only one who was being gaslit into thinking getting back in there was going to be straightforward.
Dude I've watched a sith ton of your videos now and I must say... they're perfect
I see what you did there 😂
Well that was my least favorite part of the game thus far. I couldn't imagine a shittier way to have to get somewhere.
That slide at 5:10 nearly drowned all my health. I kept glitching in the ramp and now getting needed momentum to make the jump.
I really hate the backtracking in a game. Spent an hour at a location that should have allowed me to get here as it did before. Too bad all the access points are now blocked and there is now only one way to get here instead of multiple.
I'm amazed reviewers have not talked about how clucky the map, travel and hunting for unlockables is. Waste of time.
Thank you so much man honestly helped me out a lot. I actually went the wrong way completely and had my game unplayable before i didn't trigger the area to load. So that resulted me to falling threw the map and making area's unaccessible ❤️❤️🔥🔥
For everyone reading this: you CANNOT backtrack via the Nightbrother Dungeon, but because of this: You actually CAN climb the bridge bellow and reach the Swamp, but once you get there the map doesn't load properly and there is no collision in the area. You literally fall through the map. Every. single. time.
Dathomir completely convinced me that it was rushed and the devs didn't had the time to polish it up.
The first part where you jumped down the slide can be skipped. There's a shortcut right by the workbench where you started that takes you down and skips some of that stuff (assuming you activated it on your first run through the area and are just trying to go back for something).
Yeah there is that, but that’s the ONLY way to get back there and if you didn’t activate it when you first played then your fucked. What this guy did was not supposed to be possible since, if you tried to go down the slide, then you just die.
Thank you so much , I had already spent so long trying to get down here
Thanks for the video, I spent way too much time looking for the way to go back there.
I LITERALLY JUMPED OFF THERE BUT IT KEPT RESETTING ME! I thought I had to go through the night brother village!
i almost quit the game after getting stuck her for so long going in circles. i loved the fallen order but some of these maps are so difficult and frustrating to navigate. its like you need to go down a level in order to get up one and turn left to go right. i almost sacrificed my controller to this place.
if they add dathomir in the sequel i might reconsider buying
UGH THANK YOU. Honestly it would be a heck of a lot easier (to honestly include fast travel like everyone says ) if they just let you cross back on the pipe going underneath the bridge. However you can only use it when you are LEAVING the swamp of sacrifice. If you could go back the same way it would make the return there SO much easier
This game has the WORST map/navigation system I have ever seen
Thank you, this was ridiculously complicated.
Thank you!! I don’t know why I thought I should be a completionist in this game. Too much work for one secret.
thanks man, i was going crazy trying to find my way back here
I LITERALLY broke the game trying to get to the swamp to explore, you can easily double jump and reach beneath the bridge which doesn’t load the rest of the level and breaks the gam3
Well done. I need this and doesn't matter how many times I've been here 😂
THANK YOU! idk why they didn't think to put fast travel in this game!!!!!
Oh! Tip for the hall of Nydak, use the box in the corner of the room to your advantage. Keep force pushing the box into him and he’ll die after like 4 or 5 pushes
Thank you man i was loosing my mind trying to reach there🤯🤯
I hope they add some sort of fast travel in Survivor. Maybe have more landing platforms around the planet so you could go back to the Mantis and have Greez drop you off somewhere else
Thx for the vid I finished the game and I wanted to explore Dathomir and complete Dathomir thx
I’ve never had to resort to UA-cam for mere navigation so much in any game I’ve ever played, not even CLOSE
I hope to god Fast Travel can make it into the sequel. There’s no reason why a game in this age should work like something from the PS2/Xbox era. No lie, here & Zaffo made me lose hours from just backtracking smh.
One thing I hate about this game is is there's no fast travel it'd be so convenient to be able to travel to specific parts of each planet
i couldnt for the life of me remember how to get there and i only had like 10% to do there.. thanks for guide.
Decided to come back to fallen order and 100% it before plying survivor…..I hate Dathomir. Not because of the enemies, granted those damn little poison spiders drive me insane, not because of the boss fight (which was cool af), Merrin is amazing too, it was the damn level design holy shit. I’m so glad I left Dathomir for last. No other map has this level of aggravation. The only planet I had to look up and it wasn’t even for an echo or chest it was for a whole ass portion of the map 😂. In conclusion, they should have put Maul there so I’d feel better 😂
Dude I can’t imagine coming here first before zeffo because I would’ve cried. Still did but less hard
@@sophielopez2651 I thought about it and was like why am I doing this to myself 😂😂
Every time I touch the slide I die, don't know if it's a bug. But I'm annoyed that I can't get down there!
Nvm, I did it exactly the way you did in this vid and it worked. Thank God cause I was ready just quit this game for good. Now I 100% this game!
Still can't slide down without die.....WTF
Thanks for that I’ve been trying to find out how to get back there for the past hour and no look aha!
What a level design...thanks
I hate the fact that I was able to get into the swamp on my own, then literally 5 minutes after I forgot to grab the seeds and then spent about 10 minutes trying to find a way in and eventually gave up and came here
Videos like this are proof that fast travel is an absolute necessity in games like these. Backtracking mindlessly not having a clue how to get to multiple different locations is ridiculous in this game.
I needed this so I could get the Power and Control emitter. Thanks!
Thanks this helped me out a lot. Tried using a trainer to just super jump but nope you have to go through the little tunnel animation so it'll load the level properly. I figured I could just jump over the wall and slide down but nope you'll just slide down and fall through the map unless you waste your time going through all this. You'd think being a jedi he could just push the rock out of the way and go across the bridge.
No fast travel, glitched elevators cost me more time than I've spent actually playing the main plot. Good job EA, covering your tracks. You made a 4 h game, but no fast travel makes it 10 h. Splendid...
i keep getting stuck at the part with the vines i keep force pushing the rock with the vines but i cant get up the vines fast enough to climb
Rene Cruz III Yea me 2
Rene Cruz III Nvm bro just figured it out, when ur on the wall use frontflip and force push the wall and quickly gran it again
Thank you
Your meant to force push then force slow.
@@AKarrit makes sense when u put it like that lol
thanks so much. btw ur game is so clean what platform u on?
You can actually glitch inside the bridge by going to the Nightbrother Village and go under the area where the bridge is and jump while facing the wall on your right side. If you got it right, the game will glitch you at the top of the bridge. I did that using the ps4 version. Not sure if it works on the PS5 version.
In case anyone is trying to get BACK to the swamp, you have to go back down that long @ss mud slide ramp deal at the collapsed settlement, and thru the Halls of the Nydak like you did the first time. Keep going to that bridge you had to pull down (it will be down this time), cross the bridge and look left. That's another mud slide ramp you probably forgot about when Merrin and all the Nightbrothers are firing at you, and that takes you right back to the swamp.
So convoluted... thank you for the video.
Thanks for this. This was the last area and i couldn't get back.
Yeah 🤘🏻,thought i could never come down
thx man ur a legend
I have to back to get one of the seeds
Thank you for uploading this video really helped
Damn I swear to God I tried this like 3 times and died I had no idea how to get back to that half of the map thanks
Thank you man!
Oh my fucking god I've dropped off that ledge like 5 times and I hit the fall barrier every time and respawned on the ledge. Why would it be so damn particular to make me *climb* down just a little bit before dropping?! 😡 Thank you for this video.
They really decided that the only way to get there instead of opening up a shortcut... is to just beat the whole level again
I love how intricate the levels are in this game. Very Dark Souls (especially this level). Thanks for the guide!
What kind of sadist designed the Dathomir map in general?
Thank you so much bro
Impressive, very nice
Now how can i get home
man playing the game after the story is so weird cause I don't remember these places being THIS hard to find during the story. hopefully they improve the level design and performance next game.
For Dathomir the map routes and enemies (granted it’s only the Night Sisters and the number of basic enemies goes up as well) completely change after you go through it once
Excellent!
OMG thank you!! I wasted hours to find this stupid swamp.
Can you brake the floor in night brother village
Thank you so much
Thanks I was really stuck
It took me a whole ass 45 minutes to get to the swamp after I finally gave in and searched it up
For the next game, Respawn need to make a better map 🗺. Looking at it is like looking at cluster fuck of mazes.
thanks for the vid. Just trying to get a seed a missed and this shit is taking hours. they made it horrible to revisit a area.
I CANT MAKE THAT FIRST JUMP ?!?! 😭
Thank you. Nightmare getting round this place! Fiddly as fak!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDD, thanks.
yeah this didnt work for me, I knew the way back but cannot slide down the slide path in nightbrothers dungeon, I just fall through the floor and cannot make the slide jump
cannot jump that long, I cannot replicate your jump
I have finished the game, didn't know Dathomir should be visited after other planets where we'll get abilities necessary to progress there
Yeah the labyrinth level layouts get frustrating. VERY frustrating. (Dark side brooding.)
what a great idea... make the most convoluted complex map and then don't allow fast travel and force people who want to 100% your game to return to the locations because you don't give them all the skills needed to get all the collectibles the first time they get there
Thanks you
Needed this because of another shit guide which shall remain nameless! Thanks!
I’m only trying to get the savannna poncho thanks
Love this game to bits but navigation is an absolute NIGHTMARE!
I would have NEVER found this place again