The Finest Gibson Guitars, Carefully Aged! - Do They Sound Better?
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
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⏰ Timestamps ⏰
» 0:00 Intro Jam!
» 1:00 Introducing the Gibson Murphy Lab Acoustics!
» 1:55 Old Acoustics Are Better?
» 3:33 What is Torrefaction?
» 4:32 That Played-In Feel?
» 7:06 Why Buy One?
» 8:38 The Hummingbird!
» 10:26 How Does the Hummingbird Sound?
» 11:40 The J-45
» 16:16 Strumming on the J-45!
» 17:08 Discussing the J-45
» 18:53 More Playing on the J-45
» 19:40 Other Models!
» 21:40 The Gibson L-00
» 23:40 How Does the L-00 Sound?
» 25:46 Outro Jam!
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The improv blues jam on the Gibson Parlor was fantastic! Now I've got some great chops to copy during my practice! Thanks🙏 (Love the channel BTW!... been subscribed for years!)
I'm a Lowden guy through and through. Sold my Hummingbird. Sold my J45. Gibsonless for nearly five years. Wandered into a shop a few months ago, and picked up a vintage J50. Gibsonless no more. To Lee's point, J45 (and the natural finish J50) just have a distinct sound that nobody has replicated in all these years. Great stuff, and always great to see/hear Ben!
I wish someone would explain on some of these videos that all thermo aging is not cress equal not even close. The ones that do it right (boucher) still retain dynamic range. Will not make your guitar sound old only different. But what it will do is give you a slightly more stable new acoustic guitar.
Thank you for referencing my book, "Kalamazoo Gals"! BTW, a 1942 J-45 would have had multiple purfling around the top and back. The guitar you're demonstrating (and it sounds and looks great) resembles a 1943 model. Again, thank you.
Just finished reading your great book. What an amazing experience to meet such lovely "gals" who created them and go into such depth with those guitars (especially Buddy Holly's). Would be cool to visit Kalamazoo one day, even if only to stand outside the old factory.
@@anthonycraig1458 Thank you!
My 100th anniversary ‘94 L-00 turns vintage next year. It’s been broken in & properly reliced by playing it. Gibson Rules.
I have a J35. And it’s so great! It’s the same wood as the Hummingbird but a lot more affordable
Fantastic jams!
Lovely intro fellas!
These Relics look awesome! I started on violin and cello and I will never get any dings or dongs on my guitars. So, my relics are used guitars. You would have to gig 24/7 and be not so careful to relic your own instrument naturally.
Incredible musicianship. I have a Suzuki hummingbird copy from the late seventies, I don't play it much now as I have a Takamine EAN10C and a Martin M 36. Thinking back, people often remarked that had a lovely tone to it.
I know from experience that sanding back the thick poly finish from a crappy Westfield acoustic rediscovered in my loft, made it sound less shitty. So I'm inclined to believe relicing would at least make a difference. Whether that's an improvement or value for money, who knows? I do wonder in general if reliced guitars spend less time in protective cases and more time in the hands, than a prestine guitars.
I'm thinking about purchasing a brand new Royal Enfield Bullet and tossing it in the river over winter to age it ready to ride for next spring... or perhaps I'll just buy a 1960s classic Royal Enfield Bullet and spend winter restoring it.
The ending music was great, I loved the slide.
Love watching Ben demo guitars…. Absolutely awesome
Great show Big Ben , lovely Guitars but for me when I buy new Guitar, I want it to be Perfect!! Keep on Keeping on. PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.
Nice! Are you guys ever gonna do the US Epi Casino?
Love my 2013 J45 Cobraburst. One of only 75 made. These new aged guitars are beautiful, albeit very expensive. Also, cheers Lee, we are the same age! LOL
Really. I have a 74 Guild D-50, which I picked over 2 Martins back in 75. So, The 70's Guilds are wonderful.
Despite what was said above 70s Martins are still regarded as the low point of their history. Many had their bridges misplaced which gives them poor intonation. They didn't get as bad as Norlin
Gibsons though. But I've played some great 70s Guilds.
That intro... man that was sweet.
Gibson 60s J45 in black is one of those bucket list guitars for me that I'm planning to get myself at some point. The Murphy lab guitars are too expensive for me so definitely going to buy the standard one but they really sound amazing.
The J45 is probably the best acoustic I would love to play and own
I like your acoustic reviews.
Great videos.
I'm from Toronto Canada.
I don't care if I see the kings palace when I visit the UK.
The only souvenirs I will bring back will be from. Andertons
I've been lucky enough to spend time with an original 40's banner Gibson in near perfect nick. It's farkin insane. That sound is just off the scale. You strum. Everybody loses their sh*t. Simple as.
Its a great way to get b-stock and instruments with imperfections out the door and into the hands of paying customers!
Didn't watch the video or listen to any of the information hey? 😂😂
@@thesandman775 Its an advert bro also dont talk to me
@@DDRaphIf you post, people CAN reply… that’s how social media works.
@@jed1166 not in My Country
@@DDRaph North Korea?
Excellent demonstration and talk chaps. Really enjoyable and informative. Nice one.
Incredible guitars and even better jams! The outdo plating was spectacular
Reliced guitars are pre-ripped jeans for middle-aged dads.
By that do you mean people who were around when ripped jeans was first a thing rather than something young people now copy, who have money to pay someone else to drag a guitar through the streets rather than doing it themselves; and are wise enough to know that if you treat a guitar well it will still look the same 25 years later?
This middle aged dad only plays PRS and Taylor 🤣👍🏻
@@phishphan5732
That’s not true. I’ve never owned a PRS and probably never will. I do own multiple Fenders and Gibsons.
I think the torrification of top is all you really need. I’ve got a 2021 1936 CS advanced jumbo and it sounds amazing. The rest of the aging is unnecessary. Buy vintage. There’s also less finish which helps. I do have a 1930 L-1 which you cannot replicate. Talk about amazing 👍 Bracing is key too.
It was really refreshing to hear some acoustic jamming that was more on the bluesy side. Very cool. Thanks
People who buy relic'd guitars have no interest in their own guitars aging naturally with their own story which is truly tragic.
Imagine wanting something with a 'fake' story (and probably passing it off as your own if you're 'that' type on top of that)
we truly are living in an impatient, zero attention span social media age.
also, next time guys, how about have the same models in their standard range from your shop and play them back to back so we can see how little difference it makes? for double the price....
Wow! What a massive difference in tone between the Hummingbird and the J45. My ear prefers the J45 sound. But they’re both incredible!
I don't have strong opinions either way on the whole relicing thing but I would expect a reliced acoustic guitar to have a couple of holes bashed in it somewhere for that "clumsy roadie not paying attention to where the mic stand was" effect
Aged or not, I love the way that J45 looks
I want to see Ben get his hands on a guitar based on the Gibson Nick Lucas Special. The models from the 1930s were essentially a deep-bodied L-00 with maple back and sides, and often a 13th-fret neck joint. Bob Dylan played one in the '60s.
I also want to see Ben get his hands on one of those! 😉
And a Furch
Relic is business speak for "The consumer will believe anything"
More outro like this!❤
That slide playing was brilliant!
Top 10 outro jam! Peace
Murphy Lab Gibson is maybe the only 'relic' guitars I would buy. The L-00 is a dream guitar for me
That price made me feel like a relic
My 60s LG-1 still sounds amazing. As a clunky old Gibson should
I'm all for relic instruments. However, as with any instrument, not every one will feel or sound great, yet when you find the one that's for you it's a beautiful thing. Charge me more, I'll happily pay if it's the right one.
Murphy Lab kills the secondary market. Natural aging of fine wine is why it is premium. The same is true for instruments.
No one is going to mistake a relicked fake for the real thing.
It is about respecting values, taking care of things.@@gcvrsa
Love the j45
If the necks feel wonderful and have beautifully rolled edges then surely you're saying that a "regular" Gibson isn't as good as it could be.
Idk about vintage automatically being better for acoustics. The worst guitar I've ever played was in a guitar center a few years back and it was some used $5,000+ vintage Gibson acoustic that was just absolutely atrocious all around. It didn't matter what you picked up in that store it'd sound and feel better than that "vintage" Gibson. Don't get me wrong there's plenty that were taken care of and kept in the hands of musicians that maintained them. But for every "dream" vintage equipment/hardware still out in the wild there's 100 absolute wastes of time and money like the "vintage" equipment I've personally been able to try.
Takes work and effort to relic. It's a finish, like any other color or material. Like a pink guitar, no matter the brand it won't be for everyone. Simply more options on what to play, feels and sounds good. If it's to expensive you don't make enough and simply get what's in you're range.
it's great to see simon pegg has lost some weight for his new role demonstrating your guitars, brave, i wish him every success!
Can anyone comment how the Banner Murphy Lab Light Aged J-45 compare to the non aged Custom Shop Banner J-45?
nice to see them being able to put on a pick guard correctly on the j45 now
someone should make a bonafide sound meter for new guitars, on one side the quality of the sound, on the other the money it will cost you going up. I had a really old acoustic years ago, the lacquer had peeled off, the tuners were rusty and the glue was coming apart. If only I'd have known that I could have sold it for a fortune in the future, I wouldn't have binned it. On a serious note, if people like these and they've got the money then they'll buy them, personally I can't hear anything about them that has the wow factor, although I will have to hear these in a shop and not over the web to get a fair impression. It is getting a bit snobby now like the wine market, where it's matured and the wood makes a massive difference. quaff on chaps, quaff on.
Wow! Love the Gibson L-00. The tone is my fav!
#MARKETING
Just my opinion but i belive that any improvement in tone/overtones are contributed to the thermally aged/dried top.
Oh no we finished this guitar but the finish got dinged up, guess we have to strip and refinish it... or we could sell it for double the price...
Fake aged is a better term than relic.
The psychological thing that the Captain mentioned exists, no doubt, but it is irrational.
They need to re-issue the Keb Mo guitar - that was a stunning guitar, but stupidly I sold mine 😢
The issue with “reliced” guitars, comes down to authenticity; or how realistic a relic job actually looks. Every area where the finish is worn thru needs or actually scratched or dinged, needs to make sense. It needs to look REAL. And, though I’m a massive Fender fan, and have been for 40+ years, they are frankly THE WORST at missing that mark on this part.
So regarding these Gibson guitars, that God they are only doing modest, minimalistic relic jobs. I bet they look, feel and play awesome!
I bought a Murphy Lab SG about 2 years ago and it is now worth about half of its original value but looks exactly the same as the day it was made. Make of that what you will.
As Danish Pete said guitars are to be played and enjoyed, if you want a return on your guitar buy a rare/old model of Gibson, put it in a cupboard for about 50 yrs and then your kids can enjoy the appreciation in value. to be honest Lysander just buy a standard guitar and put your own Lysander labs style on it.👍
@@briankavanagh7191 thank you, I agree. I do have a few guitars and I have a frankenbeater project which I began in the 80s, which is truly worn. The only thing is, that the Murphy SG has, according to a certain shop, somehow devalued by over three grand (by today’s new price inc Gibson price raise) in a year! I need to figure out how to use Reverb.
You can get a custom or stock baked (thermo-cured, torrefied) adi topped hog or rosewood back and sides guitar with adi braces (Gibson, Martin, Eastman, whomever) for much less than a murphy lab and it will sound just as good if not better...it's a gimmick...
I saw a video from the gibson custom shop it is just a factory 🤷😂
If you relic and dry out the wood prematurely, you’re trading the life of the wood for slight sound improvements. Visually? Relic is fake and ugly because it’s not real aging.
Great to see Anderton’s still putting some effort into selling acoustics.
Semper Fi
Brilliant idea, and they sound amazing- I'm sure they feel amazing to play as well- all that said, I doubt it goes over very well. Ppl are either too cenacle or too stupid and inexperienced to get it. That said- I forget that the market for these kinds of guitars is generally speaking the more intelligent, accomplished players- beginners and campfire pickers rarely spend 5-15Gs and up on a guitar- so maybe it will float. I wish I could get one but- it's so far out of my reach it feels silly to even consider. Something unbelievably major would have to happen in my life before I could spend anywhere near that amount on an instrument. And at my age- I highly doubt that's going to happen. I was joking with a band mate earlier today telling him that even if we became the best grunge band in the world- to ever exist- ppl don't listen to grunge anymore and no one wants to see 50 and 60 yr. olds trying to rock out on stage. If you're Floyd or the Stones doing a reunion tour that's one thing but -guys like us better just play for the joy of playing because that's all we're going to get in the end- even if we're really good. It sux- makes it difficult sometimes to continue to put the effort in- but that's just the way it is.
As long as you’re still curious you’ve already won. A nice guitar won’t change that, cheers
I think it's hilarious how the company that spends so much of its marketing and legal budget trying to stamp out competition for guitars they deem fakes is also in the business of selling overpriced fakes.
"they deem fakes"
Come on. They're fakes, and Gibson is totally justified forcing people to not make guitars under their trademark or directly copying their designs.
I just want a Yamaha A5R
I think that relicing is a reflection of the market and probably society as a whole. I get it that an older guitar will probably play and sound better than it did when it was new, to an extent, although there's no guarantee of that. A vintage wine doesn't always taste good, many things can affect the ageing process. If people can't wait for the guitar to age naturally themselves, and have the money to buy a reliced one, good luck to them. Personally I think it's a load of old b####cks.
It’s a guarantee that a Murphy lab aged neck will feel better than a new Gibson that’s not. Objectively. Go try one with at least light aging (not ultralight) and you’ll see what I mean. Took me a bit for it to sink in lol
You’d have to be posh-rich to buy a new nitro guitar young enough to be able to be smug about your authentically aged expensive guitar later in life - which is worse really? Some people don’t have the money + lifespan combo to achieve an aged guitar from new. I’m not a fan of the blowtorched relic thing but this is a bit different
Essentially you are saying that unless you are rich at a young age you shouldn’t get to play nice broken in guitars - seems like a bad hill to die on
I like my relic car, my guitars, not so much
Why relic an acoustic? So they can charge more....
They only make them because people buy them, simple supply and demand.
Yep! Gibson will use any reason they can think of to keep their prices sky high! Point of note? The re-issue of the Marauder with a nod to Paul Stanley. Not a signature model as such, but a sky high price anyway as if it was a signature model. Here's the rub: He bought 50 of 'em before doing a 50 state tour of the USA so he could finish the night off by smashing them on stage at the conclusion of each gig.
That. And sound, volume and feel. Which makes it plenty worth it in my book. The looks is just a bonus for some. Nobody forces you to buy the most expensive ones, don’t be mad that they exist and good luck finding a perfect vintage one for this price
7k 😂
Right, because there's clearly not a market for reliced guitars
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Relicing an acoustic is just atheastics (and price raising). In the land of "wood actually matters" (that is any kind of hollow body guitar) there is no way to "make the guitar sound old because it looks old". You need to wait years for a solid woods top/back/sides to "mature" and give you "better" sounds . These may look cool but there are no better with other new acoustics .
$6800!
Buy 5 Eastman's instead and still have money left over to drink yourself daft
Horses for courses, you dont have to buy. Personally im not into bling on guitars, that said ,if it sounds lovely then thats the guitar for me.
A fool and his money are easily parted.... I'll take two please
If old acoustic guitars sound better, why not adopt a similar process to the maturation of Scotch whisky. Build a bunch of the most popular models, then store them in a warehouse in the middle of nowhere for a minimum of twelve years.
Controversial opinion. The more guitar is played, the better it sound. Both acoustics and electrics (even solid bodies).
Relicking guitars has exactly one legitimate purpose: replication of historical instruments for movie props or museum displays. Only poseurs buy relicked guitars, and I cringe when I see people buying them. I can do all my licking myself, thanks. Why would anyone want to go around being an obvious fake?
Sound, volume and feel is plenty of reason to buy relic guitars. Some like the looks some don’t no need to be mad that there’s something for everyone. And yes, you can indeed play in a new Guitar but not everyone has the time
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Relickling guitars does not make them sound better or louder, and "feel better" is totally subjective.
@@gcvrsa my relic guitar was louder just like my friends played in one, and everything about Guitar is subjective hence people like to try them out. Why shouldn’t it be subjective when you spend this kind of money? If you bond with one of these and can afford it, I can’t be mad about that
Can we get past this time in which people over-emote while playing simple things? It's on so many videos now...the fake expressions while barely playing is becoming obnoxious.
Great remark! And shaking the neck up and down...😂❤
Or we could just shut our eyes and listen to beautiful guitar playing.... 🤷♂️
Does a relic guitar sound better?
Does a red Ferrari go faster than a black one?
Why not have modern counterparts to compare????
Aged always sounds better!!!
One of the biggest scams foisted on the guitar-buying public. Artificial aging, it is called counterfeiting in the art industry, there is no value added, just cost. No facts to back up the hype.
Some people want a worn look without all the time involved to do it naturally. I still think its dumb too for what its worth.
Dumb as it is, it isn't being 'foisted' on anyone. Brand new, shiny versions haven't gone anywhere. Gibson is responding to an obvious demand for this from its customers and it gives the customer more choice.
Why relic any guitar. For the same reason people get tattoos.
Utter hogwash! Using a chemical/heat process will NOT make your guitar sound "vintage" EVER! Feels very much like a snake oil product that is going to be very short lived! Love the J45 but not at 7000+ euro. Rather invest some time in finding an original for a little bit more money!
I'm going to buy one and prove you wrong, said no one xD
As a guitar builder I will state that relicing a new guitar will not make it sound better. Only two things will make a guitar sound better Time and playing. Relicing is more a mental thing. Also a 50 year old guitar that's been well played yet kept in mint condtion will have that well played vintage sound. Relicing is for kids who want to seem like seasoned players. But let me be the first to tell them sound comes from time and playing.
Old is old, better, but not that much.
Definition: (Guitars)
Relic: (Electric guitar): Make your new guitar look like a piece of shit. Doesn't improve sound quality.
Relic: (Acoustic Guitar): (so far) Work to improve FEEL (can be done to any guitar). (Aging): Acoustics RELY on the tonal quality of the wood so aging (carefully) the wood thru various processes CAN definitely change the sound quality to begin (speed up) aging the wood to match what time normally accomplished.
Purpose:
Electric: Take more of your hard earned money, up to a couple thousand more, for no improvement to sound.
Acoustic: Improve sound quality, take more of your money.
Worth it?
Electric? HELL NO
Acoustic? Only your ear can tell you if it's worth the cost.
Let me guess 7000 each??? A lot of bass in the sound on my speakers 🤷 sneak peaked got the price about right , about 4k overpriced
cos if there's a bandwagon, it needs jumped all over !
this is absolutely ridiculous. Why relic an acoustic guitar! Come on Gibson this is only so you can charge a ridiculous price for it, really why would you pay for something that you can do yourself to your own acoustic simply by just playing it regularly, I have a Taylor 214 CE I’ve had for about 10 years now, and it has scratches and marks and wear marks all over it from me playing it and playing gigs with it regularly the last 10 years that I proudly did myself
The reason is not to charge more...Because you can choose the non reliced version.
@@gilh3947 that is true you can buy the non-relic version of each guitar but those are already very expensive to begin with they’re tacking on an extra couple thousand dollars just for it to look worn in an old, my point is you can do all that to your own high-end acoustic yourself by simply playing the guitar and or gigging with it on a regular basis
Am I the only one on here who is annoyed by the Anderton’s demonstrators who play acoustics by striking the strings behind the sound hole? it drives me nuts. it always makes the sound thinner and more treble-y than they should. If you want the biggest, richest sound the instrument can make, hit the strings in the middle of the soundhole. And to show off that soft, what I call the ‘moony’ sound, play them at the base of the neck.
Watch the demos of the fabulous Aussie Cole Clarks for the example that most irritated me.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. Rant over.
🤣🤣🤣 one born every minute , selling same product for more money , great guitars I’m sure but snake oil sellers of the world unite . Buy a second hand worn in guitar 🤷♂️ .
Brand new and perfect, forget the beat up look and torrification mumbo jumbo….this fad will chng as all fads do especially at the prices these relics go for…😂… farq dat noise
never understood the whole relic thing....if you buy a new guitar and play it long enough it will become old..... and every mark will be a story. buy a old guitar and it has history, buy a relic guitar and it is a pretender and nothing else.
Why relic any guitar? It's just not my thing - makes me cringe. But as the Home Surgery Handbook says, "Suture self!"
People who buy guitars "reliced" makes me wonder if they would soon buy a guitar with a lifted bridge, dents, bad frets? Why buy a guitar that looks abused? Why not buy a reliced car? crazy how easily people are programmed to go along with what is shoved in there face. Relic your own guitar!!
I smashed the front of my Range Rover- it sounds no different 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is the dumbest trend ever in my opinion! Why would anyone want to buy a new instrument that comes with scuffs, scratches and dings intentionally put there by the factory???!!!
Would you buy a relicd Ferrari ?!
I like my purchases shiny and flawless, thank you very much 🤠
Recently Gibson offered a relic'd ES-355 in "alpine white" that had been artificially aged in the V.O.S. style of a guitar bought new and kept under someone's bed for 40 years. That poor guitar looked like a new one painted in TV Yellow! . . and the poor buyer will never know the delightful experience of buying and owning a new Alpine White ES-355 and lovingly watching it slowly going off in colour over a REAL 40 year period of time! In the unfortunately appropriate way of expressing outrage these days . . HOW DARE THEY?!!!!
Hell, yes, I’d buy a relic Ferrari if it looked like a 60 year old one and was 10-25% of the price of the real thing.
I don't think the relic debate applies to Gibson Murphy lab guitars in general. Murphy lab guitars are aged not reliced.
Murphy Lab do ultra heavy aging which is clearly doing a relic job.
In the specific case of acoustics, they currently only appear to offer light aging. But -- in general -- they obviously do relic jobs if you want it.
@@pepmasters-999 well, it would appear that you have your opinion and I have mine. pretty much the internet in a nutshell. 👍
No, they are not "aged". They are faked replicas of old guitars.
Dear god what? They relic guitars. Calling them aged is the exact same thing but using a different word. They just get to charge even more.
@@TurfShifter Dear god (I guess that's how we're starting our replies now) I see that you also have your own opinion. good for you, do you need a gold star or a cookie or something? it sounds like you weren't aware that opinions are arbitrary and vary from person to person.
Relics are a lie. If you want a guitar that feels played, play the dang thing!
Why relic? So ppl can pretend like they play instead of watching social media all day
Nope, Gibson's are stupidly overpriced and overrated. It just another shameless gimmick to add to their mark up and hopefully keep them from going bankrupt again. They stopped producing instruments worth buying or reissuing in the early 80's and have been exploiting ignorant basic guitarist with mediocre quality and nostalgia of thier relevance for nearly 40 years. Gibson, an American disgrace.