There was some public speculation about Roosevelt and Hickok as early as the 1930s. Had anything with the story been confirmed at that time, it was a scandal that would've rocked the country.
It is rumored that Eleanor, had a relationship with her young body guard. I remember seeing pictures of them together in different films. She looked so happy with him.
Watch Ken Burns documentary on The Roosevelts- An Intimate History. There is no evidence that Eleanor was a lesbian. For instance, did you know that Eleanor also lived with a male doctor who got married and the three of them lived in the same home? True! Eleanor Roosevelt was a caring, loving, open and friendly lady who did not shy away from showing her affection and did not care about what other people thought. She fully embraced African-Americans and that makes me warm all over.
Hickok and Roosevelt exchanged some 3,300 letters over nearly 30 years. This is the amount stored in the FDR Library archives. There were reportedly others that were destroyed. Even some of the letters that survived were quite intimate. I don't think she was a lesbian, but it does appear that she was open to exploring her sexuality after her marriage fell apart.
From what I have seen, the Val-Kill docent says that's how people wrote back then, in a very sentimental, emotional way. Of course, that was 20yrs. ago so who knows what they're telling people now? Her grandson by her daughter Anna, Curtis answers the question the same way. I know it's possible, but maybe not realistic, that she would have a circle of lesbian friends and not have been in some way having those feelings, too.
@lindatart Sara Delano, a product of the Victorian Era, had strong opinions on divorce. Upper-class people who did it at that time could easily become social outcasts. It was a matter of being image conscious. An open marriage was a better alternative to divorce. At least a couple could keep up appearances.
Eleanor came from a very dysfunctional family. This could have been a very codependent relationship instead of a lesbian relationship. If the author had enough evidence, why not write it as a biography instead of historical fiction? Is author pushing her idea?
Exactly. Eleanor actually told Hickok that she could not fulfill Hickok's needs and said she would've been happier had she married a man. When you explore further into Eleanor's family background, her aunt Corinne had friendships of similar depth, with both Corinne and Eleanor having been raised in the Victorian Era and people expressed themselves much differently at that time. People don't realize that Eleanor had a long-term boyfriend at the height of the friendship with Hickok.
Sadly, Eleanor was deeply enamored with Uncle Joe Stalin. She did not see the evil within him and with communism. FDR gave away all of eastern Europe because of his waning health. My grand parents and Great grandparents died as a result of this problem. FDR did not live to see the expansion and encroachment of communism and the loss of freedom of millions of people. Patton saw into the future and saw what was going to happen.
I recommend "Eleanor and Hick" which gives detail about Lorena Hickock and Eleanor Roosevelt. Eleanor was such a great lady.
When I hear about this, I'm so happy for both of them...
thank you. We need more stories about the wonderful achievements of Eleanor and Lorena, and their loving relationship.
Back when people didn't make as much of a scene over what politicians were doing in their bedroom. It was a simpler time
There was some public speculation about Roosevelt and Hickok as early as the 1930s. Had anything with the story been confirmed at that time, it was a scandal that would've rocked the country.
It was a time when the press also hid things from the public like FDR's wheel chair. Now in 2021 they'd never been able to keep it under wraps.
Eleanor and her compatriots are amazing. In the fulcrum of history..
Thank you Amy..
Amy Bloom has written a beautiful and engaging book. She speaks in the same articulate manner with which she writes.
It is rumored that Eleanor, had a relationship with her young body guard. I remember seeing pictures of them together in different films. She looked so happy with him.
Watch Ken Burns documentary on The Roosevelts- An Intimate History. There is no evidence that Eleanor was a lesbian. For instance, did you know that Eleanor also lived with a male doctor who got married and the three of them lived in the same home? True! Eleanor Roosevelt was a caring, loving, open and friendly lady who did not shy away from showing her affection and did not care about what other people thought. She fully embraced African-Americans and that makes me warm all over.
GEOFF DB Dem biographers have mythologized & idolized E Roosevelt to the point nobody interested in the truth.
Hickok and Roosevelt exchanged some 3,300 letters over nearly 30 years. This is the amount stored in the FDR Library archives. There were reportedly others that were destroyed. Even some of the letters that survived were quite intimate. I don't think she was a lesbian, but it does appear that she was open to exploring her sexuality after her marriage fell apart.
True, just because they want it to be true doesn't make it so.
There is no incontrovertible proof of a lesbian affair
A great woman who helped shaped America....
Dianne Faith a adulterer. And will not enter the kingdom of heaven.unrepented that is.
@@willhaak1 Heaven doesn't exist tho
Seems Eleanor Roosevelt, Henry Wallace, Frances Perkin, other New Dealers way ahead of their times
After seeing this, I love Eleanor Roosevelt even more.
This is Old News- you know! If you have investigated the Roosevelts -then this is not unfamiliar!
From what I have seen, the Val-Kill docent says that's how people wrote back then, in a very sentimental, emotional way. Of course, that was 20yrs. ago so who knows what they're telling people now? Her grandson by her daughter Anna, Curtis answers the question the same way. I know it's possible, but maybe not realistic, that she would have a circle of lesbian friends and not have been in some way having those feelings, too.
Can anyone be surprised. Franklin cheated on his wife for many years and the only reason they stayed together is because his mother forced them to
Louis Howe also coerced the couple to remain married, telling them that Franklin had no chance of ascending to the presidency after a divorce.
@@texan903 and she did not want her grandchildren to be without their father.
@lindatart Sara Delano, a product of the Victorian Era, had strong opinions on divorce. Upper-class people who did it at that time could easily become social outcasts. It was a matter of being image conscious. An open marriage was a better alternative to divorce. At least a couple could keep up appearances.
Wasn't there more than a four year age difference? 1884 - 1893?
Lesbians rise up
STOP! Let the dead rest in peace! Find proof, or leave this woman to rest in peace!
We have literal thousands of letters worth of proof. I don't know what you want.
@@irreleverent I was going to say… those boxes at the museum are actual proof I thought :)
Amen
#hiding #truth #fdr #Roosevelt..i wonder what else #Roosevelt #hid
Is this the same Amy Bloom that was referreranced in the " L Word"?
Lovely, lovely book
There going to make a movie
Eleanor came from a very dysfunctional family. This could have been a very codependent relationship instead of a lesbian relationship. If the author had enough evidence, why not write it as a biography instead of historical fiction? Is author pushing her idea?
Exactly. Eleanor actually told Hickok that she could not fulfill Hickok's needs and said she would've been happier had she married a man. When you explore further into Eleanor's family background, her aunt Corinne had friendships of similar depth, with both Corinne and Eleanor having been raised in the Victorian Era and people expressed themselves much differently at that time. People don't realize that Eleanor had a long-term boyfriend at the height of the friendship with Hickok.
this is the content that will build a nation greater than China, lol
Sadly, Eleanor was deeply enamored with Uncle Joe Stalin. She did not see the evil within him and with communism. FDR gave away all of eastern Europe because of his waning health. My grand parents and Great grandparents died as a result of this problem. FDR did not live to see the expansion and encroachment of communism and the loss of freedom of millions of people. Patton saw into the future and saw what was going to happen.
yes @Alfred Enisz, FR was a major adulterer and loved Joe Stalin. He did much damage to the USA
l had heard rumors of this year's ago but didn't know it was true
What else did she do?