Kat Ourlian of Upscale Audio Has Something to Say About Diversity

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  • Опубліковано 8 лис 2024
  • Kat Ourlian of Upscale Audio had a supportive upbringing by her parents, which gave her the confidence to go into the music industry, first as a recording engineer and now in the audio industry.
    Along the way, she's developed some strategies for how to deal with people who treat her differently because she's not a man. "I call it gaining trust. People don't trust me right off the bat, which is a little bizarre... just because I'm a woman. And then being young..." We spoke with Kat at AXPONA 2023.
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  • @evanbonnell9611
    @evanbonnell9611 Рік тому +30

    It’s like he’s dangling a victim card in front of her face, and she’s not interested in taking it.

  • @brianlewis5042
    @brianlewis5042 Рік тому +8

    As an Upscale customer and have been help out by Kat, she and all of the other staff have been awesome. They really know their stuff. Upscale has and will be my go to for my audio needs. Great interview.

  • @oscarmassey9388
    @oscarmassey9388 Рік тому +5

    Tank you soooooo much KAT for this interview you are a ROCK STAR !!!!!

  • @spandel100
    @spandel100 Рік тому +6

    Sounds like the type of person I would love to deal with in an audio conversation.I would 100% trust Kat on her advice.

  • @helgar791
    @helgar791 Рік тому +12

    As an audiophile for 40 years I'd love to see more women interested in listening, retail, and the production side of this industry. But pandering is not the way.

  • @rofgabor
    @rofgabor Рік тому +2

    I purchased from her and corresponded with her about my stupid questions at Upscale and I would not have imagined she was this young, this irresistible, this funny, etc. What a cool lady. She was awesome by the way to work with, but again, who would have thought :) I don't even know how to praise someone properly in the me-too era, everything I meant was a compliment. Nothing like "for a women, she was very knowledgeable"
    Men in this field are often arrogant and condescending.

  • @lydiapawlak8564
    @lydiapawlak8564 Рік тому +2

    It's going to have to be the "Approach" Okay, play a bunch of equipment in her price range, and see which one sounds best to HER! Does it make her feel like dancing, singing to favorite LP's? Etc.... Treat us equally, and don't be intimidating, because the industry has a shadowed intimidating factor because or technical offerings that are sometimes hard to setup pieces, or too many buttons... End in End, has to be about the music. She will only bring friends over and say ex. I bought this tube pre-amplifier to go with my turntable and it sounds great to me. I don't care anymore than that. I do not care to swap out equipment, or chase a sound that may not exist... Keep in mind, we have more self care Clothes, makeup, children, etc... Usually HiFi pieces would be WAY down the list of consideration. It will stay mostly women musicians who are really into music will have to do the influencing... Until then, it will be a select few...

  • @rachelnewyorktruth2564
    @rachelnewyorktruth2564 Рік тому +3

    Girl Power. Love you Kat.

  • @kgobrien1
    @kgobrien1 Рік тому +1

    All the folks Thomas interviewed agreed that more diversity is needed in that industry.

  • @jasonmahoney1182
    @jasonmahoney1182 Рік тому +3

    Great interview! Kat has been such a wealth of knowledge and experience in helping me find that synergy with my vinyl system.

  • @johnfredmurray
    @johnfredmurray Рік тому +1

    We love Kat. Great to see her on Cool Cleveland. For a minute I thought Kevin was going to come over and talk shop. Just bought some speakers from Upscale Audio. Great interview!

  • @mauricecuffee7220
    @mauricecuffee7220 Рік тому +3

    Kat is the real deal. Would love to see her be the female Michael Fremer and get greater exposure…but don’t leave Upscale!!!

    • @David-ns1re
      @David-ns1re Рік тому +1

      this.

    • @tomscott4438
      @tomscott4438 4 місяці тому

      She did. She left to work at Cadence Audio in London.

  • @jackprick9797
    @jackprick9797 Рік тому +4

    The interviewer is pushing an issue, diversity, that the interviewee is not really resonating with. I hear Kat saying, "Yeah, it's an issue. People struggle with it. I might have struggled with it, but at the end of the day, I know my shit and not worried about the dumb asses of the world!"

  • @ianpeck2719
    @ianpeck2719 Рік тому +4

    Are we to force diversity in this hobby? Let’s face it, women are not into audio as men so it’s not like men are squeezing women out of this hobby.

  • @sethfm9773
    @sethfm9773 Рік тому +3

    Kat is awesome. I would love to hear her play some vinyl.

    • @David-ns1re
      @David-ns1re Рік тому +1

      ya can she just spin a show? does it have to be AXPONA

  • @ericelliott227
    @ericelliott227 Рік тому +2

    Kat is awesome. I hope to meet her (phone or whatever) one day. We are on the same page about synergy and all that and she knows her stuff! I hope to talk with her a bit about phono carts, etc. down the road when I'm ready. (Got to save up you know). I want to get her take on it. We need more women like her in the industry and hobby.
    The female perspective is very valuable in these sorts of things. In fact, they get it right more often then men do!

  • @PCM-mc5xy
    @PCM-mc5xy Рік тому +3

    Great job Kat!!!

  • @LuxAudio389
    @LuxAudio389 Рік тому +1

    Great personal perspectives and epic ending😃 We are the world....🎤🧑‍🎤 🌍🎶

  • @mitchparker7652
    @mitchparker7652 Рік тому +2

    Great to hear Kats story.

  • @greencraig8570
    @greencraig8570 Рік тому +2

    The kind of diversity Im interested in is a diversity of discounts.

  • @madcrabber1113
    @madcrabber1113 Рік тому +2

    She wasn't interested in the professional victim card so he keeps trying to get her to take it with no success. So great to see not everyone under 50 wants to complain.

  • @joeygsaudiochannel3972
    @joeygsaudiochannel3972 Рік тому +1

    Kat was awesome to hang out with.

  • @thomasmurphy4752
    @thomasmurphy4752 Рік тому +6

    So much diversity crap at AXPONA

  • @tomscott4438
    @tomscott4438 4 місяці тому

    Dealt with Kat a couple of times while I was upgrading/refining my vinyl setup. A straight shooter who knows her s**t. I always wondered how she and Kevin got along, because he hates sharing the spotlight. (Did you notice he walked by twice during this interview) When she moved on to Cadence in London, it wasn't a big surprise.

  • @carlbrown3634
    @carlbrown3634 Рік тому +1

    Love Kat! Great interview thanks for sharing.

  • @HB92647
    @HB92647 Рік тому

    Kat has been on my home, installing a cartridge on my "rig" and she's the real deal. Down to earth and cool AF. A definite asset to all of us in the audiophile community.

  • @36glock
    @36glock Рік тому +7

    OMG Not so cool Cleveland. Keep it on topic, it’s about the music and gear!!!

    • @ClearOutSamskaras
      @ClearOutSamskaras Місяць тому

      Issues permeate throughout many corners and even nooks and crannies of society. I clicked on this expecting not to be able to tolerate the entire video, but I watched all of it and found it more interesting than not and worth consideration.

  • @TheFriday40
    @TheFriday40 Рік тому +1

    Great interview!

  • @David-ns1re
    @David-ns1re Рік тому +1

    As a recording engineer, that has to employ random assistants and interns, working out of various studios around the world, there's just no time to judge. I throw the flow chart at you, the recall sheets and if you can do it, then you can do it, if you cant then GTFO.
    Doesnt matter who, what, when and where, its about business and getting the music happening right.
    People are overthinking and need to just stop and remember why theyre both in that room. Done. Nothing more.

  • @tonydeniro284
    @tonydeniro284 Рік тому +6

    And this guy needs to lose that hat pronto!

  • @itsjim2875
    @itsjim2875 Рік тому +1

    Kat is adorable! I need to get a table "down the hill" so she can tune it up for me.

  • @jennconducts
    @jennconducts Рік тому +2

    Kat is da bomb!

  • @novisnick6928
    @novisnick6928 Рік тому

    Kat in a word, “Awesome”! She knows more about turntables, cartridges and audio gear then most will ever be exposed to. Smart is an understatement.

  • @greggb681
    @greggb681 Рік тому +1

    She was not having this interview and good for her! You can see how uncomfortable she was with his questions.

  • @Ricky-cl5bu
    @Ricky-cl5bu 9 місяців тому

    Kat is a gem 💎

  • @sanfordschoolfield710
    @sanfordschoolfield710 Рік тому +2

    I love Kat, doesn't everyone!

  • @mrman7453
    @mrman7453 Рік тому +1

    My female cousin introduced me to music

  • @stevecampbell1834
    @stevecampbell1834 Рік тому +1

    This is a ridiculous interrogation for someone who really knows her craft. When I had a high end music store, the women in the industry were in a majority of instances better at their craft than the men counterparts.

  • @berduss7149
    @berduss7149 Рік тому +2

    I do not understand the women factor in the hifi hobby . we are not in the construction work here ! people hear and feel the beautifull music :)

  • @johndodson3020
    @johndodson3020 Рік тому

    I dont care one way or the other people get into a field of work from legacy curiosity money potential inventiveness ect AND i dont know all the newer more current faces behind CH Precision DCS ect but i always wondered why there wasnt more people of color in the industry. White Anglo-Saxon from the European continent to be sure same here in America and of course the Asian representatives from the East but, like i said not including any say 2005 and ^ i cant name any Black or Hispanic owner/engineer/designer-builder of high end audio. Im not saying that makes a difference but i was just curious as to what brings a person to a certain field and if the SJW feel that theres not enough of any said group in a field that perhaps it isnt because they were excluded but that they werent interested in being included

  • @robertsupercalifragilistic7404

    Checking boxes doesn’t get the job done correctly.

  • @Darkmatterme
    @Darkmatterme Рік тому +1

    She is just the Kats miauw. Rrrrrrr

  • @freeradical6390
    @freeradical6390 Рік тому +13

    Diversity? What a dumb "woke" thing to talk about. Especially when everyone you meet comes from a different heritage.
    I think this guy needs a Bud Light.

    • @tonydeniro284
      @tonydeniro284 Рік тому +1

      He's a DB!

    • @perlman7376
      @perlman7376 Рік тому

      @@tonydeniro284 - Agreed. Everyone is having a grand ole time and then this POS tries to stir up a sh*tstorm.

  • @bizyz
    @bizyz Рік тому +1

    some of the women at the show took to hitting on the guys who were cd player centric-----they preferred the guys who had sacd players from ch precision,accuphase and solution.women of indeed discriminating tastes.

  • @Tinez87
    @Tinez87 Рік тому +1

    Does he know the peak fell off his baseball cap 😱

  • @tonydeniro284
    @tonydeniro284 Рік тому +1

    Nothing buy good things to say about upscale! Wish my wife was more like her! She could care less about audio.....

  • @davidcarter9156
    @davidcarter9156 Рік тому

    Blah blah blah. Leave her alone!

  • @user-rg4xn3ib4c
    @user-rg4xn3ib4c Рік тому

    I bet that she is so d@#^ tired of the "what does it feel like to be a woman in this industry" conversation. I don't get why anyone (men) even cares! Talk Audio! She can talk it, so talk it and stop looking at a female, listen to the knowledge. Ok, so there are not a bunch of females in the biz/hobby so what. If they want into the hobby cool, if not cool, its not their thing. Trying to think of what a lot of women are into, for now lets just say sewing I guess they used to be into that, or Arts and Crafts lets say that. There are not a lot of men into Arts and Crafts. Do you think women care? But if a man joined in they would NOT ask him how it feels. I would bet on that too.