I moved to the US and put my kid in a German certified charter school in Florida. Its sooooooo much better than only German school system. The school HAS TO follow German and Florida education system. They took the bad parts out of the German and Florida education system and put the positives together.
Sounds perfect. Our schoolsystem in Germany is OK, but time Changes and we have to Re-new some parts. It's Not terrible, it's Not perfect, it's ok. But much burocracy If you want to Change Something. But every "Bundesland" has to Change big parts, it's Not our highest goverment who can Change everything. E.g. In bavaria school is much Harder and different in comparison to Berlin or Cologne..
I work as a relief teacher in Adelaide,South Australia. Last week I had to replace a technical studies teacher for a lesson. The year 7 students had to design a 3D object on a computer, and then they were going to make it in a woodwork lesson. I had a teacher assistant in the room who comes from Iraq. He said that the education system in Australia is amazing! The kids get to do all these ‘hands on’ things like computer design and woodwork! When he was in Iraq, the school system was so hard, and only academic, and he hated it. (Sounds like Germany, or at least Bavaria) The only problem in Australia, he said, was that most of the kids don’t finish school: they all drop out 😢 And that is one of the problems of the Australian school system 🤔
We have woodwork, cooking, handcrafts etc too in Germany 😉 And we are big on vocations/ apprenticeships (apprenticeships in Germany are 3 years of learning a trade in a company 3 times a week and learning the theory 2 times a week at school. You get paid the whole time and of course you get all the normal benefits - 30 days paid leave, unlimited sick days, retirement fund etc etc)
I'm an expat from South Africa, it sounds like the school system in NZ is very similar to SA, I also noticed that there is no after school sport (at least not at the schools that my daughter has been to Grundschule and now Realschule). In South Africa it is mandatory to do an after school activity whether it's drama or debating, cricket or rugby. My daughter does do sport through the Sportverein, but it's not at all the same. I also miss the beach terribly!
About the school systems: the problem is that there isn't the one ideal system that fits all children. I didn't enjoy that time either, but mostly because school has always been way too slow for me - that was obviously worst in primary school (which is inclusive), but still a problem in Gymnasium. Okay, not all kids want to become scientists, but what about those who do? They need a good system too and to be honest I think having to attend an inclusive school from start to finish would have been detrimental for me. In my opinion the segregation isn't the problem at all. Dividing the kids by strenghts seems sensible. But the German curriculum, the quality and motivation of the teachers.. that's where the problems start. Like you said, only highlighting the kid's weaknesses is not good pedagogy (my teacher were no different). Unfortunately I had to study with future teachers in Uni and it was more than obvious that the problems start there. Not gonna go into detail, but those people were awful. I have one "but": my schools did provide dance classes, choirs, several good orchestras, musical class and fantastic art teachers with lots of super cool projects that even made it into the local newspaper! Depends on the Gymnasium and city I guess (Hamburg in my case). I don't know about NZ, but German schools have different "themes and emphasis", mine focused on arts and music because it used to be a girl's school, the school down the road, a former boy's school, focused more on maths, science and language. Others are inclusive for kids with disability.. Maybe in some countries all schools are basically the same, but not in Germany, which is probably hard to comprehend when you didn't grow up here.
Was das fokussieren auf die Fehler betrifft würde ich sagen, dass das eigentlich in Ordnung ist. Es geht in dem Moment nicht um die Geschichte, sondern um die Grammatik und Rechtschreibung. Meine Deutschlehrer haben das genauso gemacht, aber.... am Ende wurde auch immer über die Geschichte gesprochen - wir mussten sie dann meistens vorlesen - oder es wurde dazu geschrieben wie der oder die Lehrerin die Geschichte gefunden hat. Zum Thema Förderung der Vorlieben was Kunst, Musik oder anderes angeht. Das liegt bei den Eltern. Das sollte nicht an der Schule liegen. Deutschland ist das Land der Vereine, wird doch immer wieder gesagt. Wir haben für alles mögliche Vereine. Meine Familie zB hat schon immer Musik gemacht. Wir waren alle in verschiedenen Musik Vereinen. Von Klavier über Violine, Schlagzeug zur Trompete und Schalmei war alles dabei. Sportvereine, Ballett - alles mögliche.
You don‘t need to put pressure your kids about school! They can still study, even if they go to Hauptschule. They can still study everything they like. You can catch up on every school they want. I myself went to Hauptschule, then I did two extra years for Realschule, then I learned a trade (3 years) and after that I worked and got my Abitur at an evening school. And I went on to University where I even had an advantage due to age and experience.
coole Sache mit den Sofabezügen, ist auch sehr umweltfreundlich, nicht gleich eine neue Couch zu kaufen, ...meine Freundin mag immer die Farben bei Ikea nicht... also wäre das eine Option hier
It is no secret that the German school system is crap. The politicians in Berlin know it, but changing it is difficult, because of the states. Here in Denmark, we had the same system until mid 70s. Then it was scraped. I was actually in the last class of the old system, I finished in 78. We now have a more flexible system, that can change to follow time and practices. It has had 3 or 4 major changes since 78. We actually have school systems that can change year for year if needed. Danish governments have ALWAYS been a big believer in education, therefore Denmark was the first country to eradicate illiteracy in Europe. Schooling started in 1739 and illiteracy was largely eradicated already in the middle of the 19th century. Fun fact: Did you know that native Danes speak at least 3 languages? Danish, English, and German, a few speak French instead of German, but it is very few.
I would love to move back to Germany one day to be closer to my family (I'm from Italy and hubby is American), but the more I hear about its school system past the Grundschule the more I don't think it would be a good fit for my daughter, who seems a lot like you describe yours
Geliket und abonniert Danke für das teilen deiner Erfahrung That with schools is a reason for me to leave Germany 😅 I saw just a few videos on your canal, do you work as a teacher?
Leider ist Bildung Ländersache, also ist es sehr uneinheitlich. In manchen BL ist der Besuch einer einheitlichen Mittelschule Standard, in manchen wird direkt nach der 4. Klasse direkt einsortiert. In manchen Regionen hat "Gesamtschule" direkt das Image von "Sammelbecken für die ganzen Flachpfeifen die sonst nie einen Abschluss kriegen würden".
The school system sounds so much better. I wish I had grown up in New Zealand and not Germany. 12:18True, if you want to live near a beach in Germany you would have to invest a lot of money. For example to Sylt (the island with the most millionaires). The situation in Germany regarding free access to a beach has unfortunately consistently developed negatively over the last four(?) decades. By that I mean tourist tax in almost every place and paid parking spaces etc. I grew up (well relatively) near a coast and I have to say that the commercialization of nature here is unfortunately negative for people (except for the income of a few or the income of the people). corresponding communities).
Leider bringt das Leben als Auswanderer auch negative Seiten mit sich. Aber solange die positiven Aspekte deutlich überwiegen, ist es ok. Zum Thema Schulwesen stimme ich Dir voll zu. Es gibt zwar Schulen(hauptsächlich Privatschulen), die ein anderes Konzept haben. Doch leider sind sie rar gesät und durch die begrenzte Kapazität ist ein Platz zu bekommen sehr schwierig. Ich wünsche Dir weiterhin eine schöne Zeit in Deutschland
I feel like it's very typical for German families to bump heads with the German school system for the 1st time at the age where your daughter is at now. After all, Germany's 3-tier-school system was developed in a time where most Germans were peasants, so the MO for many centuries was just to weed out the especially talented ones for academics and military schools and have the rest take over their parents' farm/learn their craft. Many parents were even glad if their kid got out of school as early as possible so they could train them themselves in their craft, or they could become an apprentice. Nowadays it's much different obviously. The Schullaufbahnempfehlung really highlights the difference between the family's image of their kid(s) vs. the school's image of them (neither of which is more valid and correct than the other I might add). I come from a state where the parents have the last word in whether or not to take the school up on their "Empfehlung", and I'd imagine it's much harder in states where the school has the final say.
Too bad there is no way, you can integrate the positive reinforcement of the New Zealand School system to German one. Has a child. I do way better with positive than told what I needed to improve on. Learning in different method. Too bad cannot smash each school system together.
I moved to the US and put my kid in a German certified charter school in Florida. Its sooooooo much better than only German school system. The school HAS TO follow German and Florida education system. They took the bad parts out of the German and Florida education system and put the positives together.
Sounds perfect. Our schoolsystem in Germany is OK, but time Changes and we have to Re-new some parts.
It's Not terrible, it's Not perfect, it's ok. But much burocracy If you want to Change Something. But every "Bundesland" has to Change big parts, it's Not our highest goverment who can Change everything.
E.g.
In bavaria school is much Harder and different in comparison to Berlin or Cologne..
The German school system? Does not exist.
I work as a relief teacher in Adelaide,South Australia. Last week I had to replace a technical studies teacher for a lesson. The year 7 students had to design a 3D object on a computer, and then they were going to make it in a woodwork lesson. I had a teacher assistant in the room who comes from Iraq. He said that the education system in Australia is amazing! The kids get to do all these ‘hands on’ things like computer design and woodwork! When he was in Iraq, the school system was so hard, and only academic, and he hated it. (Sounds like Germany, or at least Bavaria) The only problem in Australia, he said, was that most of the kids don’t finish school: they all drop out 😢 And that is one of the problems of the Australian school system 🤔
We have woodwork, cooking, handcrafts etc too in Germany 😉
And we are big on vocations/ apprenticeships (apprenticeships in Germany are 3 years of learning a trade in a company 3 times a week and learning the theory 2 times a week at school. You get paid the whole time and of course you get all the normal benefits - 30 days paid leave, unlimited sick days, retirement fund etc etc)
I'm an expat from South Africa, it sounds like the school system in NZ is very similar to SA, I also noticed that there is no after school sport (at least not at the schools that my daughter has been to Grundschule and now Realschule). In South Africa it is mandatory to do an after school activity whether it's drama or debating, cricket or rugby. My daughter does do sport through the Sportverein, but it's not at all the same.
I also miss the beach terribly!
Those are beautiful couch covers. And, you have a nice, comfortable-looking couch. Thank you for sharing. 😊❤
Really touching video, glad you got to 60000. Hope you stay in Germany, (even though I am in the USA.
About the school systems: the problem is that there isn't the one ideal system that fits all children. I didn't enjoy that time either, but mostly because school has always been way too slow for me - that was obviously worst in primary school (which is inclusive), but still a problem in Gymnasium. Okay, not all kids want to become scientists, but what about those who do? They need a good system too and to be honest I think having to attend an inclusive school from start to finish would have been detrimental for me.
In my opinion the segregation isn't the problem at all. Dividing the kids by strenghts seems sensible. But the German curriculum, the quality and motivation of the teachers.. that's where the problems start. Like you said, only highlighting the kid's weaknesses is not good pedagogy (my teacher were no different). Unfortunately I had to study with future teachers in Uni and it was more than obvious that the problems start there. Not gonna go into detail, but those people were awful.
I have one "but": my schools did provide dance classes, choirs, several good orchestras, musical class and fantastic art teachers with lots of super cool projects that even made it into the local newspaper! Depends on the Gymnasium and city I guess (Hamburg in my case). I don't know about NZ, but German schools have different "themes and emphasis", mine focused on arts and music because it used to be a girl's school, the school down the road, a former boy's school, focused more on maths, science and language. Others are inclusive for kids with disability.. Maybe in some countries all schools are basically the same, but not in Germany, which is probably hard to comprehend when you didn't grow up here.
Yes focus on strength is better
Thanks for answering my question my nephew currently goes to school in New Zealand and I’ve been baptised
Was das fokussieren auf die Fehler betrifft würde ich sagen, dass das eigentlich in Ordnung ist. Es geht in dem Moment nicht um die Geschichte, sondern um die Grammatik und Rechtschreibung. Meine Deutschlehrer haben das genauso gemacht, aber.... am Ende wurde auch immer über die Geschichte gesprochen - wir mussten sie dann meistens vorlesen - oder es wurde dazu geschrieben wie der oder die Lehrerin die Geschichte gefunden hat.
Zum Thema Förderung der Vorlieben was Kunst, Musik oder anderes angeht. Das liegt bei den Eltern. Das sollte nicht an der Schule liegen. Deutschland ist das Land der Vereine, wird doch immer wieder gesagt. Wir haben für alles mögliche Vereine. Meine Familie zB hat schon immer Musik gemacht. Wir waren alle in verschiedenen Musik Vereinen. Von Klavier über Violine, Schlagzeug zur Trompete und Schalmei war alles dabei. Sportvereine, Ballett - alles mögliche.
Totally agree about the school system. Fellow expat here with 4 kids.
You don‘t need to put pressure your kids about school!
They can still study, even if they go to Hauptschule. They can still study everything they like. You can catch up on every school they want.
I myself went to Hauptschule, then I did two extra years for Realschule, then I learned a trade (3 years) and after that I worked and got my Abitur at an evening school. And I went on to University where I even had an advantage due to age and experience.
coole Sache mit den Sofabezügen, ist auch sehr umweltfreundlich, nicht gleich eine neue Couch zu kaufen, ...meine Freundin mag immer die Farben bei Ikea nicht... also wäre das eine Option hier
It is no secret that the German school system is crap. The politicians in Berlin know it, but changing it is difficult, because of the states. Here in Denmark, we had the same system until mid 70s. Then it was scraped. I was actually in the last class of the old system, I finished in 78. We now have a more flexible system, that can change to follow time and practices. It has had 3 or 4 major changes since 78.
We actually have school systems that can change year for year if needed.
Danish governments have ALWAYS been a big believer in education, therefore Denmark was the first country to eradicate illiteracy in Europe. Schooling started in 1739 and illiteracy was largely eradicated already in the middle of the 19th century.
Fun fact: Did you know that native Danes speak at least 3 languages? Danish, English, and German, a few speak French instead of German, but it is very few.
I would love to move back to Germany one day to be closer to my family (I'm from Italy and hubby is American), but the more I hear about its school system past the Grundschule the more I don't think it would be a good fit for my daughter, who seems a lot like you describe yours
IKEA has gorgeous couches
Geliket und abonniert
Danke für das teilen deiner Erfahrung
That with schools is a reason for me to leave Germany 😅
I saw just a few videos on your canal, do you work as a teacher?
Gibt ja jetzt eh auch Gesamtschulen oder Neue Mittelschulen, zumindest in Österreich. In D nicht?
Leider ist Bildung Ländersache, also ist es sehr uneinheitlich. In manchen BL ist der Besuch einer einheitlichen Mittelschule Standard, in manchen wird direkt nach der 4. Klasse direkt einsortiert. In manchen Regionen hat "Gesamtschule" direkt das Image von "Sammelbecken für die ganzen Flachpfeifen die sonst nie einen Abschluss kriegen würden".
The school system sounds so much better. I wish I had grown up in New Zealand and not Germany.
12:18True, if you want to live near a beach in Germany you would have to invest a lot of money. For example to Sylt (the island with the most millionaires). The situation in Germany regarding free access to a beach has unfortunately consistently developed negatively over the last four(?) decades. By that I mean tourist tax in almost every place and paid parking spaces etc. I grew up (well relatively) near a coast and I have to say that the commercialization of nature here is unfortunately negative for people (except for the income of a few or the income of the people). corresponding communities).
Leider bringt das Leben als Auswanderer auch negative Seiten mit sich. Aber solange die positiven Aspekte deutlich überwiegen, ist es ok.
Zum Thema Schulwesen stimme ich Dir voll zu. Es gibt zwar Schulen(hauptsächlich Privatschulen), die ein anderes Konzept haben. Doch leider sind sie rar gesät und durch die begrenzte Kapazität ist ein Platz zu bekommen sehr schwierig.
Ich wünsche Dir weiterhin eine schöne Zeit in Deutschland
I feel like it's very typical for German families to bump heads with the German school system for the 1st time at the age where your daughter is at now. After all, Germany's 3-tier-school system was developed in a time where most Germans were peasants, so the MO for many centuries was just to weed out the especially talented ones for academics and military schools and have the rest take over their parents' farm/learn their craft. Many parents were even glad if their kid got out of school as early as possible so they could train them themselves in their craft, or they could become an apprentice.
Nowadays it's much different obviously. The Schullaufbahnempfehlung really highlights the difference between the family's image of their kid(s) vs. the school's image of them (neither of which is more valid and correct than the other I might add).
I come from a state where the parents have the last word in whether or not to take the school up on their "Empfehlung", and I'd imagine it's much harder in states where the school has the final say.
Oh darn sold dress but u have pictures
Too bad there is no way, you can integrate the positive reinforcement of the New Zealand School system to German one. Has a child. I do way better with positive than told what I needed to improve on. Learning in different method. Too bad cannot smash each school system together.
Liebe Grüße aus dem gerade sonnigen Hamburg in den Süden! Und danke, dass du deine Gefühle mit uns teilst! Ben❤
Moin Ben, genieße den Tag!
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