People obey the law in part because of an expectation that everyone else will do the same, and those who don't will be brought to book by the Police. Handing out a crime number isn't Policing.
The police didn't even meet with me in person when my motorbike was stolen and trashed. They had their chance to enjoy my good will and cooperation, that time is passed.
@@I-am-not-a-numberYet they will come after you with enthusiasm if you deal with the thief yourself. It would almost give you the impression that they are in cahoots with the criminals by giving them protection.
My experience in the States: I lived in Beverly Hills. A homeless man vandalized my car in a futile attempt to break into it, causing thousands in damage. As two very bored Beverly Hills police officers were taking my report, I shared security camera footage with them that clearly showed the man's face--and as I was doing that, THE MAN ON THE VIDEO WALKED BY US, dressed exactly as he appeared in the video. The cops agreed this man was the guy, but one of the officers said "Oh, we know him. He does this all the time. If we arrest him, he'll be back on the streets today, so I'm not going to waste time on that. The law doesn't allow us to hold him for a non-violent crime. You have insurance, don't you?" The vandal/thief was standing watching and listening to this exchange. He hooted with laughter and pointed at me: "GET IT FIXED! SO I CAN DO IT AGAIN! YOU CAN'T DO NOTHIN' TO ME!" Then he ran off laughing like the madman he is. But not so mad he didn't know he's immune from consequences, and surely more sane than the people who made him immune. I moved back to Kansas after that, where the laws actually allow the police to actually DO something about crime.
CA will never learn. Supporting prop 36 this last election is a bright spot but doubtful it is indicative of real change. We moved to a law and order state too.
Sounds like a fictional morality tale. We know the money it takes to live in BH. The alleged interaction dialogue suggests you were in the entertainment industry and wrote scripts or plays. Beverly Hills to Kansas? Not unless the Koch brothers are in your ALLEGED new neighborhood. All too pat and unlikely, but there is a crime problem which deserves better analysis then fictional morality plays.
I spent 3 years working hard to pay off the finance on a car i’d always wanted, within 2 months of paying it off it was stolen. This was 2019. I never saw a Police Officer, ended up finding it myself by a post on a FB Group. They’d stolen it and ripped it to shreds for parts…they never caught anyone for it, never actively looked for it in fact, i was given a crime number and that was it. In 2017 an uninsured foreign driver drove into the back of my car, he was on his mobile. All caught on camera, as was the driver. Damaged bumper, luckily nothing worse. Again never saw a Police Officer despite me calling them. It took 4 weeks for anyone to contact me, again crime number given but no Police attendance, the never caught him either despite him being on camera. Basically, work hard for the things you want and if it’s stolen…tough! Bring back VICTORIAN prisons!
My car was broken into outside my house. Car damaged. Dash cam stolen. Money stolen. I had clear CCTV footage of the thief’s’ face, copied onto a memory stick. I took the footage and a statement to Rochdale police station. The police refused to even accept the footage or look at it. Crime number issued. I understood that they were unlikely to catch the thief, but I expected they would want to add the thief’s face to a database.
I worked retail security for 24 years, in the last 5 years the police would have NO interest in anything we reported, shoplifting, break ins, assaults on staff and customers, dangerous driving, drug dealing, anti social behaviour, we had shoplifters who would hit our stores for 100s of pounds EVERY DAY we knew who they were, we had cctv, the police had their addresses...nothing done or VERY rarely..... we'd regularly be told, if we had detained a shoplifter, "sorry officers wont be attending, take the items off them and let them go"
We live in an 1984 world where saying bad words on Twitter can get your prosecuted but actually stealing from a shop and dealing drugs openly on streets is let off with a slap on the wrist and this government wonders why this country is going down the toilet. If I won the lottery I would genuinely consider moving country, this is no longer England this is the USSR as far as I’m concerned.
@@briancox9357 Sounds wonderful I'm sure there wouldn't be any dire consequences that could come from that at all. People who say this are either naive or just plain stupid tell me which one are you?
@14caz68 I was so angry at the way Starmer said "there will be convictions" after the riots. Like it was his decision. Someone should explain to him the difference between the executive and judicial branches of government, but you'd think a QC (sorry KC) would know something as basic as that.
@ I’ve come to the conclusion he still behaves like he’s the defending KC. The Govt is his own court to wield his ‘say so’. No discussions no negotiations . He’s like a kiddy let loose in a sweetie shop.
Theft is legal particularly if the thief is ones spouse. As I parted from my wife I found that tens of thousands had been spent without my knowledge and from my business accounts too. All completely legal if you are married. Purely a business partner then she'd have been looking at jail time for theft, fraud and falsifying ledgers. How wonderful marriage is.
Are statistics available on how levels of crime and types of crime are distributed across Britain's ethnic communities? In other words which communities are most likely to be responsible for which types of crime? I suspect such data would be held back on the grounds that it might lead to community tension if there were a less than even distribution.
Immigrants and minorities are the worst, but in a state that doesn’t prosecute and has no enforcement power, the British people are even committing crimes, especially theft.
Too many people exactly as you say for policing, NHS, schools, transport, roads, etc.... the country has to be "rebuilt" to accommodate the population. Building tall buildings in clusters will only increase gangs of criminals.
No, they don't give a toss. Many of them are more than happy to take backhanders from crooks in order to turn a blind eye to their crimes, as evidenced by the recent revelations about Mohammed al Fayed.
Had my bicycle stolen from my back garden,from the train station, from the street, from inside my block of flats. Don't even bother calling the police.
What this discussion omitted is NCHIs. People are out there are actually tweeting and posting things on social media! sometimes (gasp) opinions! and somewhere, sometime- within a year or so, someone who might feel hurty or just want validation or to have a go, will complain. Then, provided said complainer is of officially approved cohort, two cops will even make a house call on a Sunday. It's prioritys people! All you rich bike owners who can also afford locks and unwisely park your bikes outside major police stations well - check your privaledge! suck it up bozos! Police have more important matters to attend to! What do you think they are!? Police?
Met Police facing a £450 million budget deficit. Choices have to be made about where dwindling resources are spent. Constantly increasing demand. Courts that aren’t functioning. The whole system is broken.
This is happening in major Canadian cities, particulary Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. Provincial and Federal governments plain don't care about the situation.
I think we should implement a 3 strike law. It worked in the US. The crime rates of the early 90’s were shocking in many American cities, but declined precipitously once they introduced the 3 strike bill. 2 warnings is enough, you should go to prison for 10 years minimum on your 3rd offence.
Broken windows. Yeah some police here did that, and then you get minorities doing videos calling them racist and police higher ups sacking officers for this “racism” bollox.
8:30 they could start with not arresting ppl for social media posts & should definately be remanding ppl who have already been convicted & are awaiting sentencing for violent crimes (especially ppl who dont have a permanent address). There is 0 rational logical reasoning for someone to be even put in handcuffs much less remanded for an online post while ppl convicted of s*xual assault are free to roam the country after that conviction & possibly not show up for sentencing.
I suspect like many UK issues, the cost of land is a barrier to building prisons. Property price madness is doing so much damage to the successful functioning of this country
But if police forces are stretched, jails are full, the incentive to investigate and arrest suspects is not there especially when they know the judicial system will simply free them. That is in essence the crux of his argument. Theft has essentially been legalized in the UK.
@@ergophonic different groups of humans have evolved differently due to environmental pressures leading to different group outcomes. One way this can be seen is criminality between groups. We are not the same
I had my bike stolen on a train in June. Tried to give a description of someone who in hindsight had seemed suspicious shortly before theft occured. Was told, "we deal in facts not speculation." Case officer has probably forgotten about this already. I wont..
'Would you rather me investigate an assault or theft of your bike?' where the reality is a choice between the assault or non-crime hate crimes and tweets.
The main failure is the courts. They don’t punish or prosecute theft and they don’t give enough sentence to sex offences. Judges think they’re the only important people and lawyers double that stigma. Lawyers go about routinely (and in my opinion, this should be illegal) accusing the police of corruption in trials. Most judges and lawyers are too lazy to adequately punish offenders. And yet all the thick want to do is pass the buck onto the police, who’ve been gutted of a lot of their power since Cameron, who hated the police, was in.
It´s not judges being "lazy", it´s that the courts are grotesquely underfunded. People in Britain seriously can´t see the link between not funding things and bad results happening.
There is NO "or" do you want a theft case followed up on or an assault U do BOTH!!! Any mayor, police dept head etc that thinks both arent priority shouldnt be in their position period
“Defend the children of the poor and punish the wrongdoer” states the inscription on the front of the Old Bailey. What a shame justice has drifted so far from this.
I have had 5 bikes stolen and suspected the Police did nothing. As have many other people lost their bikes. This video shows this to be true. It's a shame because many give up on cycling because of this.
Highest crime Birmingham and Leicester of the 100s of constituencies across the country mentioned by the journalist. Also least White British high immigrant - how could the journalist ignore that or not see the link
Interesting that the police have invested heavily in cameras for speeding and now use AI cameras to catch phone use in a car but don't have the resources and time to catch burglars and other criminals. Wonder why that is ? Maybe to do with traffic enforcement generates revenue and catching burglars, domestic violence etc doesn't generate money. How about removing the financial incentive for traffic enforcement and maybe the resources focused on traffic enforcement will be applied to more pressing issues
"Entrepreneurial crime" a troubling new reality: individuals engaging in stealing as a livelihood, largely without fear of significant consequences. It has to be said that the 2008 financial crisis marked a turning point in public awareness, exposing the staggering wealth of a some people in "society", who worked in financial institutions. I believe that this revelation profoundly impacted societal attitudes toward money and the fairness of wealth distribution, shaking the moral foundations surrounding economic equity. We are now seeing the end-consequences of this, it was inevitable. I think people conclude that this is also a form of blatant theft.
If the system is going to, for all intents and purposes, let people off for committing crimes against people, then the same system should show clemency towards people defending themselves against said criminals.
Can we just get back to simple first principles? Right and wrong. Moral compass. The importance of truth, honesty, respect. Taught in schools, churches, homes. The police are now only concentrating on thoughts. Police stations are all closing down, also others are not being manned full time. A load of strange things going on in the police colleges and the stations. The judiciary is captured. The prison system is basically privatised. Everything points to the whole law and order system being deliberately under resourced and ideologically captured, with a view to bringing down safety in our societies.
Reform. Speak to this guy. Work out the cost of opening the courts, reducing the backlog, work out how to pay for it. Stop with the "more officers" rhetoric and solve the systemic failure. that this guy has outlined.
Does Britain not have a type of British securities and investments commission that investigates the performance of businesses, state and local government authorities and can enforce compensation and arrest of individuals when harm has occurred in the instance of failed duties?
Crime has not been increasing. REPORTED crime has been increasing but actual crime has been falling. This is explained by the ONS in their bulletins on the topic of crime rates.
Westminster won’t focus on crime. They’ll focus on money. That’s all the system focuses on. Until you get people not to focus on fiscal matters, issues like crime will not be treated as immediate priorities.
Well, there you go. A lot of this culture war stuff, is a distraction that allows the rich to get off the hook. Maybe people who are culturally conservative and culturally liberal should come together and realise they´re both being screwed by people who claim to represent them.
My bike wheels were stolen from outside a police station. They said they wouldn’t investigate because it was low value. I complained that a bike could be vital to get to work. It was not a huge crime but surely one of many by the same person or people. Deal with the criminals not track crimes one by one.
Health service, the police, benefits, traffic, housing... Let's not beat around the bush... There are too many people in the UK and anyone who talks about it is vilified as being far right.
Two stolen bicycles. Police could not care less. One of my clients, a mum with a smart electric, has had her bike nicked TEN times! We live in London. The only place I feel safe with my bike (I am a gardener with a trailer for my gear) is St John's Wood where the locals hire a private cop to patrol the street. Police don't like patroling alone even though their presence serves as a deterrent. Common sense.
The vast majority of crime is committed by the same people again and again. Either as individual criminals or as part of a system of organized crime. As a society, via the police, we need to identify and act against those who constantly harm us. People and police in communities tend to know who the criminals are, but the injustice system enables them by refusing to join the dots and identify patterns of criminality, leaving us all vulnerable.
Could not the insurance companies sue the police departments or the government for each case the police did not investigate and thus incurred a cost to the insurance company for the insured item?
City of London is a very anomalous area in relation to types of crime, types of victims, policing resources. But that aside, we need to look at what is working so much better in many European countries, rather than hankering after a US-style "incarcerate lots more" strategy. The typically British "not invented here" attitude to so many foreign approaches, including infrastructure development costs, is partly why we squander so much tax with so little progress. Brexit won't have helped in this.American-style jailing levels only work for as long as their criminals are kept inside, given their hideous recidivism rates. Another contributor is an ineffective drugs policy, drugs being such a major factor in so many crimes. And education, looking at who is in our prisons
I'm on the Left but I agree with this guy and have subscribed to this channel. Sadly,, wanting to treat criminals more seriously is deemed, like so many things nowadays, as 'right wing'. Bike thefts, phone thefts, car thefts, mugging etc affect working class and poorer people far more than wealthier people. If one relies on a phone or bike to find and get to work, and it's stolen, one is screwed. The rich don't care about this stuff because it doesn't affect them.
The police pulled out the stops to investigate the burglary of Tamara Ecclestone's house - apparently 1000 taxi drivers were interviewed. Sure it was devastating emotionally for her... but it makes the police and criminal justice system look terrible to people of more modest means when they are given the brush off regarding low value burglaries that are also emotionally devastating. If it doesn't start getting better I think there's going to a collapse in police legitimacy - the feeling among normal people that they have an obligation to assist and obey the police.
Cut down on / stop policing speach & use the freed resources to tackle theft & more serious crimes? - resume as needed when these drop. Not quite that simple? - what's the complication?
This idea of the stretched police, does not really ally with the bunches if 4 and more to go and invade some poor person in their home, because of non crime social media or other sources of grievance.
The thing is, that people don´t understand that public services, whether it be the police, the fire brigade, the NHS or schools, require a lot of money. If you want a better police force, yes, probably better tactics is part of it, but you need more manpower and that means either 1) raising taxes 2) borrowing or 3) cutting other services. This is the thing that British people don´t get, they think they can have high level public services with fairly low rates of taxation (comparatively speaking). The world doesn´t work like that.
@@paulies5407 Well, the reason why we resort to migration for lots of things in the UK, is entirely because we haven´t trained our own people properly. And it´s the same issue, it´s people expecting good results for low levels of investment. We could if we wanted, open up far more places in medical schools, but the government would rather some other country paid for the training. We could also do the same with vocational education etc.
@@MattyR472 We spend about 11% of the budget on healthcare. My point is that if you want a better service, the money has to come from somewhere, you can´t just wave a magic wand like English people think. Personally, I´m rather socialistic on economic policy, I´m all for most people paying more taxes, I think the benefits you get are worth it. I think having functioning courts etc is a good idea and makes the country much more pleasant. The problem is people in the UK don´t get that this is a choice. They think we can have Scandinavian level social services on Texan levels of taxation.
Sounds like you've been brainwashed by Radio 4, the guardian, local news, charities, lobbyists. Not everything is top-down. There is a thing called personal responsibility. Since covid, personal responsibility has disappeared and been replaced by tiresome management blaming or blaming a lack of resources.
First time arrest should not go into GP jails - kept away from like minded people and put through intense focus on breaking thought patterns and bad habits and install better life skills. Most remand jails are big buildings filled with lost sons looking for fathers....it's patently obvious if you spend anytime on the landings...these guys life skills and self worth are rock bottom and many are very self destructive and they don.t even understand why.
Well said. And the failures start in the homes, the schools and the libraries. Boundaries are not taken seriously and social media has eroded a sense of life as a jigsaw journey towards success.
The public who pay their wages have the right to know how many police man hours are spent trawling SM looking for hurty words that allow them to target and harass certain people when they should be on the streets fighting crime..
…it’s because there is insurance…. It’s a much deeper question than whether theft is legal …and what exactly is theft today…there’s a lot worse going on than stealing a bike…. and much of it isn’t even seen as theft because of who is doing it…..? It needs much deeper thinking than you are engaged in here…….thus it ever was……
I understand traffic police are known as 'jury wreckers' by other police, as anyone who interacts with them has little faith in anything the police say, and is much more inclined to discount their verbal evidence and acquit. The police of vice and virtue are likely to be even worse.
All this idiot is doing is blaming the police. When it’s only the police who get punished when things go wrong, and they don’t get any backing from people in authority, most of whom hate them, what power do they even have to enforce the law? Add that to the fact the justice system is being used as a fundraiser not a law enforcement platform and you have all this.
The justice system has failed, total numbers of prisoners increase year on year, the costs increase, its not a deterrent, society should look elsewhere, it starts with children, a broken child is a damaged adult, aspirations should be encouraged, and the idea of being a refuse collector or a post carrier etc not looked down upon and the idea of becoming a top footballer or popstar given less attention, councils should have areas that kids can go and learn to fix, cars bikes etc, the list is endless.
Wow, ironic that a lot of this came about from when Gover was Secretary of State for Justice and now he gets to publish content about his own failings.
People obey the law in part because of an expectation that everyone else will do the same, and those who don't will be brought to book by the Police. Handing out a crime number isn't Policing.
people could write their own crime numbers, and then no need to fund any police.
@puppets.and.muppets Yes, and then the money saved could be used to compensate the victims.
The police didn't even meet with me in person when my motorbike was stolen and trashed. They had their chance to enjoy my good will and cooperation, that time is passed.
The same happened to me, I had a live tracker and they were not interested.
@I-am-not-a-number had cctv of the whole event, they weren't interested.
… which is a fairly ridiculous and immature approach.
@@I-am-not-a-numberYet they will come after you with enthusiasm if you deal with the thief yourself. It would almost give you the impression that they are in cahoots with the criminals by giving them protection.
Too much Twitter policing, not enough actual policing.
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Hurty words really HURT in 2024
I wonder why?
Too many PC PCs sat on their PCs.
right wing troupe. Almost no one polices twitter. That's pretty obvious from anyone whose read the bile poste on there of late.
@@StrickenBigedthat's genuinely brilliant
Just not true though is it.
Career criminals who spend no time in prison.
No wonder they feel untouchable.
What a complete mess.
My experience in the States:
I lived in Beverly Hills. A homeless man vandalized my car in a futile attempt to break into it, causing thousands in damage. As two very bored Beverly Hills police officers were taking my report, I shared security camera footage with them that clearly showed the man's face--and as I was doing that, THE MAN ON THE VIDEO WALKED BY US, dressed exactly as he appeared in the video.
The cops agreed this man was the guy, but one of the officers said "Oh, we know him. He does this all the time. If we arrest him, he'll be back on the streets today, so I'm not going to waste time on that. The law doesn't allow us to hold him for a non-violent crime. You have insurance, don't you?"
The vandal/thief was standing watching and listening to this exchange. He hooted with laughter and pointed at me: "GET IT FIXED! SO I CAN DO IT AGAIN! YOU CAN'T DO NOTHIN' TO ME!"
Then he ran off laughing like the madman he is. But not so mad he didn't know he's immune from consequences, and surely more sane than the people who made him immune.
I moved back to Kansas after that, where the laws actually allow the police to actually DO something about crime.
CA will never learn. Supporting prop 36 this last election is a bright spot but doubtful it is indicative of real change. We moved to a law and order state too.
@@Falconlibrary Many such cases!
Sounds like a fictional morality tale. We know the money it takes to live in BH. The alleged interaction dialogue suggests you were in the entertainment industry and wrote scripts or plays. Beverly Hills to Kansas? Not unless the Koch brothers are in your ALLEGED new neighborhood. All too pat and unlikely, but there is a crime problem which deserves better analysis then fictional morality plays.
@@jackmorrison7379Yes, "Beverly Hills to Kansas" was a step too far.
@@jackmorrison7379 funny that. I don't think you're real. You sound like government run ai to me.
Gated Communities and private security - UK and Europe is being South Africanised. Great way to destroy a high trust scocieties.
Yup, Orania here we come.
@@lewisblight-bp1dt lol
This guy is awesome, I'm so grateful for his work.
I spent 3 years working hard to pay off the finance on a car i’d always wanted, within 2 months of paying it off it was stolen. This was 2019. I never saw a Police Officer, ended up finding it myself by a post on a FB Group. They’d stolen it and ripped it to shreds for parts…they never caught anyone for it, never actively looked for it in fact, i was given a crime number and that was it. In 2017 an uninsured foreign driver drove into the back of my car, he was on his mobile. All caught on camera, as was the driver. Damaged bumper, luckily nothing worse. Again never saw a Police Officer despite me calling them. It took 4 weeks for anyone to contact me, again crime number given but no Police attendance, the never caught him either despite him being on camera. Basically, work hard for the things you want and if it’s stolen…tough! Bring back VICTORIAN prisons!
Walking the line has become a mug's game.
My car was broken into outside my house. Car damaged. Dash cam stolen. Money stolen. I had clear CCTV footage of the thief’s’ face, copied onto a memory stick. I took the footage and a statement to Rochdale police station. The police refused to even accept the footage or look at it. Crime number issued. I understood that they were unlikely to catch the thief, but I expected they would want to add the thief’s face to a database.
I worked retail security for 24 years, in the last 5 years the police would have NO interest in anything we reported, shoplifting, break ins, assaults on staff and customers, dangerous driving, drug dealing, anti social behaviour, we had shoplifters who would hit our stores for 100s of pounds EVERY DAY we knew who they were, we had cctv, the police had their addresses...nothing done or VERY rarely..... we'd regularly be told, if we had detained a shoplifter, "sorry officers wont be attending, take the items off them and let them go"
70,000 court cases on the waiting list but two tier Kier can rush rioters through the system!
Yes, we can see where his priorities are.
We live in an 1984 world where saying bad words on Twitter can get your prosecuted but actually stealing from a shop and dealing drugs openly on streets is let off with a slap on the wrist and this government wonders why this country is going down the toilet. If I won the lottery I would genuinely consider moving country, this is no longer England this is the USSR as far as I’m concerned.
The very definition of Anarcho-Tyranny. The Police can hurt you but will not help you.
One could get people killed. The other is just business...
Most drugs should be decriminalized.
@@briancox9357 Sounds wonderful I'm sure there wouldn't be any dire consequences that could come from that at all. People who say this are either naive or just plain stupid tell me which one are you?
Police ? What police. What ( unbiased) judiciary ? Anarchy rules. It’s a free for all. 🤬
Its called anarch-tyranny
Of only we did have anarchy. Instead we have enforced payment for poor services.
It's getting that way
@14caz68 I was so angry at the way Starmer said "there will be convictions" after the riots. Like it was his decision. Someone should explain to him the difference between the executive and judicial branches of government, but you'd think a QC (sorry KC) would know something as basic as that.
@ I’ve come to the conclusion he still behaves like he’s the defending KC. The Govt is his own court to wield his ‘say so’. No discussions no negotiations . He’s like a kiddy let loose in a sweetie shop.
Theft is legal particularly if the thief is ones spouse. As I parted from my wife I found that tens of thousands had been spent without my knowledge and from my business accounts too. All completely legal if you are married. Purely a business partner then she'd have been looking at jail time for theft, fraud and falsifying ledgers. How wonderful marriage is.
Separate issue - this is about recidivists with 100s of convictions still roaming the streets with impunity.
Not.
That's precisely why I never married. I've seen too much of this happen to friends for my liking.
One of the many reasons I never got married. RIP to your bank balance.
I can't think of another contract that so incentivises bad behaviour. With little consequence. On such a wide scale. And yet is widely encouraged.
It's mad how France has exactly the same problem (and stats)
Are statistics available on how levels of crime and types of crime are distributed across Britain's ethnic communities? In other words which communities are most likely to be responsible for which types of crime? I suspect such data would be held back on the grounds that it might lead to community tension if there were a less than even distribution.
Albanians go to jail in the UK at 16 times the white British rate.
Pakistanis at four times, Jamaicans and Romanians at three times.
If it wasn't a significantly 'uneven distribution' they wouldn't have any objections to collecting and releasing the data.
Who's committing most of this crime, and where do they come from?
Immigrants and minorities are the worst, but in a state that doesn’t prosecute and has no enforcement power, the British people are even committing crimes, especially theft.
You won’t get access to that data
@@Geoff-n1dI think they don't collect it?
We wont get told, but we all know who the majority of them are
I think we know that.
Crime is up because we have too many people who get away with it we need it to be taken seriously
Too many people exactly as you say for policing, NHS, schools, transport, roads, etc.... the country has to be "rebuilt" to accommodate the population. Building tall buildings in clusters will only increase gangs of criminals.
Are the Met Police not embarrassed at their utter incompetence?
Their goal is to destroy the social fabric so that the communists can take over.....
@@OneUnited1999 I’m beginning to wonder if there’s anything more useless than a British police officer.
The commissioner's knighthood should be revoked
No, they don't give a toss. Many of them are more than happy to take backhanders from crooks in order to turn a blind eye to their crimes, as evidenced by the recent revelations about Mohammed al Fayed.
They weren't all rioters, many were protesters yet still jailed!! What about the Manchester Airport two?
I recall Toby Young saying that the middle-class folks on his street had given up owning bikes. Just a pointless aspiration.
Had my bicycle stolen from my back garden,from the train station, from the street, from inside my block of flats. Don't even bother calling the police.
What this discussion omitted is NCHIs. People are out there are actually tweeting and posting things on social media! sometimes (gasp) opinions! and somewhere, sometime- within a year or so, someone who might feel hurty or just want validation or to have a go, will complain. Then, provided said complainer is of officially approved cohort, two cops will even make a house call on a Sunday. It's prioritys people! All you rich bike owners who can also afford locks and unwisely park your bikes outside major police stations well - check your privaledge! suck it up bozos! Police have more important matters to attend to! What do you think they are!? Police?
People are walking into shops now and taking what they want in open sight , they know the staff have been told not to intervene.
I saw exactly the same thing happen 10 days ago in my local shop.
it's all crumbling to pieces before our eyes
Met Police facing a £450 million budget deficit. Choices have to be made about where dwindling resources are spent. Constantly increasing demand. Courts that aren’t functioning. The whole system is broken.
I thought mass migration was good for the economy? Yet we have less resources going around for more and more people
Badly managed decline
This is happening in major Canadian cities, particulary Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. Provincial and Federal governments plain don't care about the situation.
Too much senior management blaming and pointing at a lack of resources. No-one has any personal responsibility anymore.
Love this guy
Expected... After 14 years of failure it's all coming home to roost...
❤️🇬🇧
I think we should implement a 3 strike law. It worked in the US. The crime rates of the early 90’s were shocking in many American cities, but declined precipitously once they introduced the 3 strike bill. 2 warnings is enough, you should go to prison for 10 years minimum on your 3rd offence.
Great idea but who's footing the bill for the prisons?
Agree. I'd bring back "hard labour" sentences as well. Why should law abiding citizens pay for the room & board of career deadlegs?
Broken windows. Yeah some police here did that, and then you get minorities doing videos calling them racist and police higher ups sacking officers for this “racism” bollox.
£40,000+ per year per prisoner, £400,000 per 10 year.
what about bankers printing money > is that a crime too ?
Thank you so much for doing this.
8:30 they could start with not arresting ppl for social media posts & should definately be remanding ppl who have already been convicted & are awaiting sentencing for violent crimes (especially ppl who dont have a permanent address). There is 0 rational logical reasoning for someone to be even put in handcuffs much less remanded for an online post while ppl convicted of s*xual assault are free to roam the country after that conviction & possibly not show up for sentencing.
I suspect like many UK issues, the cost of land is a barrier to building prisons. Property price madness is doing so much damage to the successful functioning of this country
The real problem is of course capitalism.
@@therealrobertbirchall No, mass immigration on a tiny island is what all our problems boil down to.
Why hasn’t shoplifting been mentioned? That’s endemic. Supermarkets need to get footage to police forces more easily.
But if police forces are stretched, jails are full, the incentive to investigate and arrest suspects is not there especially when they know the judicial system will simply free them. That is in essence the crux of his argument. Theft has essentially been legalized in the UK.
Our store is always been stolen from, the police won't even turn up anymore for theft even with video evidence
There are New Arrivals not locked up for grape, ine was a 14 year old girl. Not locked up. Thata crazy, excuse was he didnt know better...
None crime hate speech will get you visited by plod even a year after the non crime occurred!
Having a discussion about crime without mentioning the real problem 👏
Which is?
@ergophonic evolutionary biology
@@roryquarrier7337 Please elaborate.
@@ergophonic different groups of humans have evolved differently due to environmental pressures leading to different group outcomes. One way this can be seen is criminality between groups. We are not the same
@@roryquarrier7337 Sounds like you are dancing around what you really want to say.
I had my bike stolen on a train in June.
Tried to give a description of someone who in hindsight had seemed suspicious shortly before theft occured.
Was told, "we deal in facts not speculation."
Case officer has probably forgotten about this already.
I wont..
Thank u for yr work 🙏
You could try reducing the prison population, stop criminalising and lock people up for small quantities of drugs .
'Would you rather me investigate an assault or theft of your bike?' where the reality is a choice between the assault or non-crime hate crimes and tweets.
The last time I visited your beautiful nation the crime was low. My friend is physically disabled and his bike was stolen😢in London
The main failure is the courts. They don’t punish or prosecute theft and they don’t give enough sentence to sex offences. Judges think they’re the only important people and lawyers double that stigma. Lawyers go about routinely (and in my opinion, this should be illegal) accusing the police of corruption in trials. Most judges and lawyers are too lazy to adequately punish offenders. And yet all the thick want to do is pass the buck onto the police, who’ve been gutted of a lot of their power since Cameron, who hated the police, was in.
It´s not judges being "lazy", it´s that the courts are grotesquely underfunded. People in Britain seriously can´t see the link between not funding things and bad results happening.
There is NO "or" do you want a theft case followed up on or an assault U do BOTH!!! Any mayor, police dept head etc that thinks both arent priority shouldnt be in their position period
This whole country is unsustainable
“Defend the children of the poor and punish the wrongdoer” states the inscription on the front of the Old Bailey. What a shame justice has drifted so far from this.
I have had 5 bikes stolen and suspected the Police did nothing. As have many other people lost their bikes. This video shows this to be true. It's a shame because many give up on cycling because of this.
Highest crime Birmingham and Leicester of the 100s of constituencies across the country mentioned by the journalist. Also least White British high immigrant - how could the journalist ignore that or not see the link
Interesting that the police have invested heavily in cameras for speeding and now use AI cameras to catch phone use in a car but don't have the resources and time to catch burglars and other criminals. Wonder why that is ? Maybe to do with traffic enforcement generates revenue and catching burglars, domestic violence etc doesn't generate money. How about removing the financial incentive for traffic enforcement and maybe the resources focused on traffic enforcement will be applied to more pressing issues
"Entrepreneurial crime" a troubling new reality: individuals engaging in stealing as a livelihood, largely without fear of significant consequences. It has to be said that the 2008 financial crisis marked a turning point in public awareness, exposing the staggering wealth of a some people in "society", who worked in financial institutions. I believe that this revelation profoundly impacted societal attitudes toward money and the fairness of wealth distribution, shaking the moral foundations surrounding economic equity. We are now seeing the end-consequences of this, it was inevitable. I think people conclude that this is also a form of blatant theft.
If the system is going to, for all intents and purposes, let people off for committing crimes against people, then the same system should show clemency towards people defending themselves against said criminals.
Can we just get back to simple first principles? Right and wrong. Moral compass. The importance of truth, honesty, respect. Taught in schools, churches, homes.
The police are now only concentrating on thoughts. Police stations are all closing down, also others are not being manned full time. A load of strange things going on in the police colleges and the stations. The judiciary is captured. The prison system is basically privatised. Everything points to the whole law and order system being deliberately under resourced and ideologically captured, with a view to bringing down safety in our societies.
Reform. Speak to this guy. Work out the cost of opening the courts, reducing the backlog, work out how to pay for it. Stop with the "more officers" rhetoric and solve the systemic failure. that this guy has outlined.
See how well this turned out in San Francisco.
The police: "...patterns of crime, recurring incidents you say? What are these magical things?" - it's an absolute embarrassment.
Great content
Does Britain not have a type of British securities and investments commission that investigates the performance of businesses, state and local government authorities and can enforce compensation and arrest of individuals when harm has occurred in the instance of failed duties?
Crime has not been increasing. REPORTED crime has been increasing but actual crime has been falling. This is explained by the ONS in their bulletins on the topic of crime rates.
The same criminals committing the same crimes - yes, corporate executives who commit fraud every day and are never charged, tried or punished.
Westminster won’t focus on crime. They’ll focus on money. That’s all the system focuses on. Until you get people not to focus on fiscal matters, issues like crime will not be treated as immediate priorities.
Well, there you go. A lot of this culture war stuff, is a distraction that allows the rich to get off the hook. Maybe people who are culturally conservative and culturally liberal should come together and realise they´re both being screwed by people who claim to represent them.
I usually despise the spectator and everything it stands for but fair enough this lad has done some very interesting research
Great point about fast feedback loops.
My bike wheels were stolen from outside a police station. They said they wouldn’t investigate because it was low value. I complained that a bike could be vital to get to work. It was not a huge crime but surely one of many by the same person or people. Deal with the criminals not track crimes one by one.
They would find a prison cell for you if made an incorrect tweet, or you stole from a bank
Tut-tut, stolen has now been replaced by the bourgeois euphemism "aquisative".
Health service, the police, benefits, traffic, housing... Let's not beat around the bush... There are too many people in the UK and anyone who talks about it is vilified as being far right.
It's hard for people to want the best for fellow citizens in s country committed to multiculturalism.
crime is a choice.
Two stolen bicycles. Police could not care less. One of my clients, a mum with a smart electric, has had her bike nicked TEN times! We live in London. The only place I feel safe with my bike (I am a gardener with a trailer for my gear) is St John's Wood where the locals hire a private cop to patrol the street. Police don't like patroling alone even though their presence serves as a deterrent. Common sense.
Simple. The Law of Effect.
The vast majority of crime is committed by the same people again and again. Either as individual criminals or as part of a system of organized crime. As a society, via the police, we need to identify and act against those who constantly harm us. People and police in communities tend to know who the criminals are, but the injustice system enables them by refusing to join the dots and identify patterns of criminality, leaving us all vulnerable.
Could not the insurance companies sue the police departments or the government for each case the police did not investigate and thus incurred a cost to the insurance company for the insured item?
Which started under the Tories.
City of London is a very anomalous area in relation to types of crime, types of victims, policing resources. But that aside, we need to look at what is working so much better in many European countries, rather than hankering after a US-style "incarcerate lots more" strategy. The typically British "not invented here" attitude to so many foreign approaches, including infrastructure development costs, is partly why we squander so much tax with so little progress. Brexit won't have helped in this.American-style jailing levels only work for as long as their criminals are kept inside, given their hideous recidivism rates. Another contributor is an ineffective drugs policy, drugs being such a major factor in so many crimes. And education, looking at who is in our prisons
The police are two busy with "non crime" incidents on twitter & facebook
I'm on the Left but I agree with this guy and have subscribed to this channel. Sadly,, wanting to treat criminals more seriously is deemed, like so many things nowadays, as 'right wing'. Bike thefts, phone thefts, car thefts, mugging etc affect working class and poorer people far more than wealthier people. If one relies on a phone or bike to find and get to work, and it's stolen, one is screwed. The rich don't care about this stuff because it doesn't affect them.
First it was the XL Bully, now it’s petty theft. Why does Lawrence Newport have it in for chavs so badly?
The police pulled out the stops to investigate the burglary of Tamara Ecclestone's house - apparently 1000 taxi drivers were interviewed.
Sure it was devastating emotionally for her... but it makes the police and criminal justice system look terrible to people of more modest means when they are given the brush off regarding low value burglaries that are also emotionally devastating. If it doesn't start getting better I think there's going to a collapse in police legitimacy - the feeling among normal people that they have an obligation to assist and obey the police.
Cut down on / stop policing speach & use the freed resources to tackle theft & more serious crimes? - resume as needed when these drop. Not quite that simple? - what's the complication?
Badly managing decline.
This idea of the stretched police, does not really ally with the bunches if 4 and more to go and invade some poor person in their home, because of non crime social media or other sources of grievance.
The thing is, that people don´t understand that public services, whether it be the police, the fire brigade, the NHS or schools, require a lot of money. If you want a better police force, yes, probably better tactics is part of it, but you need more manpower and that means either 1) raising taxes 2) borrowing or 3) cutting other services.
This is the thing that British people don´t get, they think they can have high level public services with fairly low rates of taxation (comparatively speaking). The world doesn´t work like that.
Being swamped with low wage mass migration doesn’t help the situation as most will never earn enough to pay back what they take out.
@@paulies5407 Well, the reason why we resort to migration for lots of things in the UK, is entirely because we haven´t trained our own people properly.
And it´s the same issue, it´s people expecting good results for low levels of investment.
We could if we wanted, open up far more places in medical schools, but the government would rather some other country paid for the training.
We could also do the same with vocational education etc.
The NHS 16% total government revenue and it’s not enough?
@@MattyR472 We spend about 11% of the budget on healthcare.
My point is that if you want a better service, the money has to come from somewhere, you can´t just wave a magic wand like English people think.
Personally, I´m rather socialistic on economic policy, I´m all for most people paying more taxes, I think the benefits you get are worth it.
I think having functioning courts etc is a good idea and makes the country much more pleasant.
The problem is people in the UK don´t get that this is a choice. They think we can have Scandinavian level social services on Texan levels of taxation.
Sounds like you've been brainwashed by Radio 4, the guardian, local news, charities, lobbyists. Not everything is top-down. There is a thing called personal responsibility. Since covid, personal responsibility has disappeared and been replaced by tiresome management blaming or blaming a lack of resources.
First time arrest should not go into GP jails - kept away from like minded people and put through intense focus on breaking thought patterns and bad habits and install better life skills. Most remand jails are big buildings filled with lost sons looking for fathers....it's patently obvious if you spend anytime on the landings...these guys life skills and self worth are rock bottom and many are very self destructive and they don.t even understand why.
Well said. And the failures start in the homes, the schools and the libraries.
Boundaries are not taken seriously and social media has eroded a sense of life as a jigsaw journey towards success.
lets have the 3 strikes rule, after the third offence then its life in prison without parole.
Bring back the stocks, cheap, easy and you can live stream it!
The public who pay their wages have the right to know how many police man hours are spent trawling SM looking for hurty words that allow them to target and harass certain people when they should be on the streets fighting crime..
…it’s because there is insurance…. It’s a much deeper question than whether theft is legal …and what exactly is theft today…there’s a lot worse going on than stealing a bike…. and much of it isn’t even seen as theft because of who is doing it…..? It needs much deeper thinking than you are engaged in here…….thus it ever was……
More Brits in prison than in any other European country.
I understand traffic police are known as 'jury wreckers' by other police, as anyone who interacts with them has little faith in anything the police say, and is much more inclined to discount their verbal evidence and acquit.
The police of vice and virtue are likely to be even worse.
Need a solution similar to Bukele in El Salvador.
Yeah but they're not chasing down the assaults too 😔
Yet all the police commissionaires crime reports say it is falling
Free markets.
because thought crime is the priority
All this idiot is doing is blaming the police. When it’s only the police who get punished when things go wrong, and they don’t get any backing from people in authority, most of whom hate them, what power do they even have to enforce the law? Add that to the fact the justice system is being used as a fundraiser not a law enforcement platform and you have all this.
Government & police don't do anything that why it will never stop we need government to tell us who its doing it????????
The justice system has failed, total numbers of prisoners increase year on year, the costs increase, its not a deterrent, society should look elsewhere, it starts with children, a broken child is a damaged adult, aspirations should be encouraged, and the idea of being a refuse collector or a post carrier etc not looked down upon and the idea of becoming a top footballer or popstar given less attention, councils should have areas that kids can go and learn to fix, cars bikes etc, the list is endless.
Wow, ironic that a lot of this came about from when Gover was Secretary of State for Justice and now he gets to publish content about his own failings.
You voted for this, and now you're getting it good and hard.
There is no future in Britain.
You can't fix this.
Er, no I didn't.