Has Gohan Surpassed Goku?

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  • Has Gohan Surpassed Goku?
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    After the recent chapter in dragon ball super dropping, the question of if gohan had officially surpassed goku has been getting thrown around a lot. With the debate being strangely a lot more split then I would’ve thought. And so today me and crisis have decided to use the potara earrings and explain to you guys why Gohan has officially surpassed goku and is probably the strongest z fighter around. Before even discussing the fight itself we have to talk about the scaling that both Granolah and Superhero have set, and compare the two. The problem with this however is that both arcs establish two different characters as top 1. The Granolah arc does this with Frieza and Dragon Ball Super Hero does to Gohan. Son Goku, is a Saiyan raised on Earth and the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series. He is the second born, as well as youngest son and child of Bardock and Gine, the husband of Chi-Chi, and the father of Gohan and Goten. Originally sent to Earth by his parents as an infant, Kakarot was adopted by Grandpa Gohan and renamed Son Goku. A head injury at an early age altered Goku's memory, ridding him of his initial destructive nature and allowing him to grow up to become one of Earth's greatest defenders. Goku constantly strives and trains to be the greatest warrior possible, which has kept the Earth and the universe safe from destruction multiple times. Vegeta, is the prince of the fallen Saiyan race and the husband of Bulma, the father of Trunks and Bulla, the eldest son of King Vegeta, as well as one of the main characters of the Dragon Ball series. Regal, egotistical, and full of pride, Vegeta was once a ruthless, cold-blooded warrior and outright killer, but later abandoned his position in the Frieza Force for a peaceful life on Earth. He would repeatedly fight alongside Universe 7's most powerful warriors in order to protect Earth and his family, as well as to surpass Goku in power. Vegeta's strong character development has received high praise and is regarded as the biggest in the series. He initially debuted as the main antagonist of the Vegeta Saga but progressed into a more anti-heroic tritagonist role for the rest of Dragon Ball Z. Since the Majin Buu Saga and going into Dragon Ball Super, Vegeta has been the main deuteragonist/secondary protagonist behind Goku. Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero is a 2022 Japanese computer-animated martial arts fantasy/adventure film, directed by Tetsuro Kodama, produced by Toei Animation and written by Dragon Ball series creator Akira Toriyama. It is the twenty-first Dragon Ball feature film overall, the fourth produced with Toriyama's direct involvement, the second to carry the Dragon Ball Super branding, and the first to be produced mainly using 3D animation. The film follows Piccolo and his former student Gohan as they go on a mission to save the world from the newly reformed Red Ribbon Army. It was originally set for release in Japan on April 22, 2022, but was instead released on June 11 due to a cyberattack at Toei Animation. On Beerus' planet, Goku and Vegeta continue their training under Whis, now joined by Broly to help him control his rage. Meanwhile, on Earth, the revived Red Ribbon Army, led by Commander Magenta and Staff Officer Carmine, recruit Dr. Hedo, the grandson of Dr. Gero, to seek revenge against Piccolo and Gohan. Under Hedo's guidance, the Army creates two new androids, Gamma 1 and Gamma 2, to act as superheroes in the public eye. They deploy Gamma 2 to attack Piccolo, who loses the fight. Piccolo follows Gamma 2 back to the Red Ribbon Army's base and discovers that Magenta and Hedo are working on a new android named Cell Max, a new and improved version of Dr. Gero's ultimate weapon, Cell. Hedo kills Magenta to stop this but is too late. Gohan, Piccolo and the Gammas, joined by Goten, Trunks, Android 18 and Krillin, battle Cell Max. Goten and Trunks fuse into Gotenks and, despite botching the Fusion Dance, are able to crack Cell Max's skull, revealing that he does not have a healing factor like the original Cell. Gamma 2 sacrifices himself to injure Cell Max, destroying his left forearm. Combining his "Orange Piccolo" and "Great Namekian" forms, Piccolo battles Cell Max but is ultimately defeated. This causes Gohan's inner rage to finally erupt, unlocking an evolution of his "Ultimate" form called "Gohan Beast".
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 368

  • @RestlessGamblrr
    @RestlessGamblrr 4 місяці тому +204

    LMFAOOOO THIS THUMBNAIL

  • @ethanwmonster9075
    @ethanwmonster9075 4 місяці тому +112

    Stand proud father, you are strong.

    • @legendhomies47
      @legendhomies47 4 місяці тому +4

      Stronger than Gohan

    • @kumaraditya7372
      @kumaraditya7372 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@legendhomies47not in dreams

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому

      Stand proud goku, you are ass

    • @legendhomies47
      @legendhomies47 4 місяці тому

      @animationstudiosa Yea not in dreams in the dbs manga.

    • @yes3802
      @yes3802 3 місяці тому

      ​@@kumaraditya7372You're right in reality Goku is stronger

  • @YaboiBanner
    @YaboiBanner 4 місяці тому +58

    I just feel bad for Vegeta at this point, imagine training your whole life to beat someone and his son just constantly gets new forms surpassing you while barely training.

    • @ricardovelez1725
      @ricardovelez1725 4 місяці тому +12

      Well , Gohan is a hybrid so his potential is higher than any full blooded saiyan other than Broly.
      At least Vegeta can say he is on even grounds with Goku .
      Characters like Gohan , Broly and Freezer are mutants among mutants.

    • @rewriteanime
      @rewriteanime 4 місяці тому +11

      Vegeta fans understands that he will never be number one, he's just the enemy's warm up toy

    • @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy
      @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy 4 місяці тому +3

      And then you got hroly whe just by living was around ssg level and then when he got angry, was fighting blue

    • @Pein718
      @Pein718 4 місяці тому +5

      Vegeta has actually always respected Gohan as a fighter, it's specifically Goku he has an issue with. Gohan is like the only person Vegeta apologizes to after getting folded by cell after Trunks dies, then he fully accepts Ultimate Gohan being the strongest in the buu saga with no sass

    • @ASS-tb3mq
      @ASS-tb3mq 4 місяці тому

      Vegeta didn’t train till cell saga

  • @marcus7984
    @marcus7984 4 місяці тому +40

    I love how we just all call it, Goku susanoo lol

    • @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy
      @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy 4 місяці тому +5

      Its the only appropriate name. Plus if the roles were reversed and db invented susanoo before sasike did it, db fans would be calling it susanoo too.

  • @zineprixmenu4373
    @zineprixmenu4373 4 місяці тому +24

    Gohan has the higher raw power
    While goku is more skilled

  • @yaboiplank6764
    @yaboiplank6764 4 місяці тому +77

    They done called UI a gimmick 😭

    • @Sarge327
      @Sarge327 4 місяці тому +8

      Well it has a gimmick, but that’s a good thing.

    • @BrandonScott-mi5pz
      @BrandonScott-mi5pz 4 місяці тому +3

      EXCELLENT WORK. TYLEARN TYLEARN AND CRISIS AWESOME!

    • @Agent-57
      @Agent-57 4 місяці тому

      Not only that but they are calling True UI, Omen UI. Ugh dumba$$es

  • @mohamedbinishaq3169
    @mohamedbinishaq3169 4 місяці тому +42

    Glad that Gohan is back I hope he doesn’t fall off again

    • @brendanjohnson8979
      @brendanjohnson8979 4 місяці тому +5

      Don’t get your hopes up now bud lol

    • @zirotsero6951
      @zirotsero6951 4 місяці тому +7

      Nice joke
      Goku: shit, black frieza is gonna kill me
      Gohan at home: i wonder if beetles have a beast form

    • @selfloathinggivesmelife7810
      @selfloathinggivesmelife7810 4 місяці тому +9

      With Toyotaro at the helm now, I don’t think Gohan’s ever gonna fall off again.

    • @meghanath07
      @meghanath07 4 місяці тому

      ​@@selfloathinggivesmelife7810why is Gohan toyos favourite character?

    • @selfloathinggivesmelife7810
      @selfloathinggivesmelife7810 4 місяці тому +4

      @@meghanath07 No, his favorite is Goku. But if you look at how Toyo handled Gohan in his manga version of the ToP and Moro arcs, it’s easy to tell that he respects the character and goes out of his way to keep him consistently training.

  • @therealogdaffy
    @therealogdaffy 4 місяці тому +36

    They boutta cook you for this. Stay safe LOL

    • @doriankamanzi6874
      @doriankamanzi6874 4 місяці тому +3

      I don't want Goku to get surpassed. My childhood doesn't like it 😭

    • @Ligmapigga
      @Ligmapigga 4 місяці тому

      😭

    • @no.12papangkornkaewklad27
      @no.12papangkornkaewklad27 4 місяці тому +14

      ​@@doriankamanzi6874gohan surpassed goku for the half of z bro 😭

    • @selfloathinggivesmelife7810
      @selfloathinggivesmelife7810 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@doriankamanzi6874 But why though? Like, why's it that serious for you guys?

    • @doriankamanzi6874
      @doriankamanzi6874 4 місяці тому +1

      @@selfloathinggivesmelife7810 I think it's more nostalgia. I don't actually care if he gets stronger, like if he gets stronger it makes sense from a narrative view and from what we've been told but just the part of my childhood doesn't like it

  • @HT_Tony
    @HT_Tony 4 місяці тому +17

    THANK YOU! I think it's so annoying how people think Goku slams him or something 😭

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +5

      A lot of og fans can’t take it bro they’ll literally say anything

    • @GRANIMATIONS-fy8um
      @GRANIMATIONS-fy8um 4 місяці тому

      gohan was literally getting cooked and Goku intentions were not to win the fight, and this isnt TUI

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому

      @@GRANIMATIONS-fy8um TUI isn’t his strongest form anymore beerus and Whis literally confirmed this

    • @GRANIMATIONS-fy8um
      @GRANIMATIONS-fy8um 4 місяці тому

      @@LuhZay3 they did??

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому

      @@GRANIMATIONS-fy8um yea it’s in chapter 103 right after goku taps into UI with the white hair

  • @Monkes23
    @Monkes23 4 місяці тому +9

    toxicity on both sides reminded me this is the DB fandom 😭

  • @cashrock505
    @cashrock505 4 місяці тому +74

    Gohan knocking Goku out of MUI is such a ridiculous feat, it has Whis' jaw drop. I don't think Broly can access LSSJ whenever he wants; Gohan is currently the strongest on-demand Z Fighter.

    • @Dave-gk6si
      @Dave-gk6si 4 місяці тому +1

      He didn’t knock him out of it.

    • @cashrock505
      @cashrock505 4 місяці тому +28

      @@Dave-gk6si They literally show the panel in the vid around 7:15 so I dunno what you're arguing for

    • @kumaraditya7372
      @kumaraditya7372 4 місяці тому +24

      ​@@cashrock505avg Goku fiend😂

    • @FMBeelz
      @FMBeelz 4 місяці тому +19

      @@Dave-gk6siyou aren’t a real person

    • @doriankamanzi6874
      @doriankamanzi6874 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@cashrock505yeah but the thing they got wrong is they compared it to two different situations. They compared it to a situation where Goku got scared out of his form which isn't off feat of Goku getting beat. He just literally got shocked because of jiren's power and then they showed gas kicking him out of his form. But you know the differences. He was exhausted. He was already hurt. We know what he's been through. He literally had just finished fighting granola. He was battered and bruised. So yes he get out of his form but in this case he was completely renewed. Unless we're implying that Gohan kicked him so hard. He took all the damage that he took in the granola fight and was that weakened which is just BS to assume no. He just went out of the form and then went back in. For some reason he's only ever dropped form because he's weak or because he's been knocked out or scared. None of the above happened in that case

  • @rewriteanime
    @rewriteanime 4 місяці тому +11

    100% facts
    The Goku fans has been smoking some Copium ever since Chapter 103 came out lol
    Gohan is the strongest in the universe!

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +4

      Yuh

    • @Monkes23
      @Monkes23 4 місяці тому +3

      black frieza.

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому

      @@Monkes23 gets bootyblasted by beast

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Monkes23 gets bent by beast

    • @Monkes23
      @Monkes23 4 місяці тому +4

      imma be honest, if he is stronger than black frieza, wouldn’t he have one shot and I mean one shot goku far easier than frieza did?

  • @m1r4499
    @m1r4499 4 місяці тому +13

    That fucking thumbnail lol

  • @hunterherndon8573
    @hunterherndon8573 4 місяці тому +2

    People just cherry pick statements that agree with them and ignore the ones that don't.

  • @q2yogurt
    @q2yogurt 3 місяці тому +1

    I still can't believe we memed Gohan Blanco into reality

  • @matthewwelles8422
    @matthewwelles8422 4 місяці тому +4

    Still doesn’t feel deserved, so that’s why I don’t like Gohan winning, cause it’s just like, “Oh yeah he always was this strong he just didn’t care enough.” That works, but NOT when Goku and Vegeta are training this hard compared to him and what Goku and Vegeta went through. It’s just, oooo Gohan be strong now, me brain likey…….

  • @Goober12345
    @Goober12345 4 місяці тому +3

    0:14 I’ve gotta see a fusion of crisis and Ty someday

  • @Random1567
    @Random1567 3 дні тому

    Gohan wasn’t pressed into Ultimate vs Goten and Trunks, he was handling them even in just SSJ. He got motivated by their resolve to protect others as heroes, and thus kicked it up to that form out of excitement/equal resolve. He was actually winning vs them in SSJ. With smiles on his face, he tossed Trunks and Goten away. And the only reason he didn’t go SSJ2 is because DBS ignores those forms most of the time, besides just SSJ1. Or SSJ1/2 are grouped together as the same thing or something. Maybe they were all SSJ2 already, it’s hard to tell anymore and even Goku in SSJ2 is sometimes designed with SSJ1 hair.
    Goten and Trunks potential is never said to be higher than Gohan’s, they just had quick starts due to how strong their fathers were at the time vs Gohan. Whenever the topic of the most potential comes up, it’s always Gohan and not Goten/Trunks. Obviously they are prodigies in their own rights and can surpass their fathers easily if they want, but they’re treated very differently from Gohan.

  • @Trap5656
    @Trap5656 4 місяці тому +6

    The thumbnail is great. 😆 Now I'm curious about hearing you and Crisis take on how strong Orange Piccolo is at somepoint maybe a Beast Gohan vs Black Frieza debate too. 🤔

    • @selfloathinggivesmelife7810
      @selfloathinggivesmelife7810 4 місяці тому

      Agreed, I love to hear their take on where Piccolo stands now.

    • @GGG65.
      @GGG65. 4 місяці тому

      @@selfloathinggivesmelife7810 piccolo probably stands at like broly level (black frezia >>> gohan => goku > vegeta > broly => piccolo >>>> everyone else)

  • @overheatedfrost8947
    @overheatedfrost8947 4 місяці тому +3

    love the thumbnail, wonder what you will scale next, could be another anime or cartoon this time.

  • @Jaxer500
    @Jaxer500 4 місяці тому +3

    It makes me a little frustrated that goku has gone threw grueling training for years to get strong but oh no gohans mad so now he can low diff mui goku ssj broly and ultra ego vegeta be cause he got a good damm rage boost

  • @lancetheking7524
    @lancetheking7524 4 місяці тому +1

    I have no idea what they are cooking with 2 Saiyans with the power of GoDs and Angels, a saiyan with peak growing potential, a saiyan halfbreed with equal if not more potential, 2 prodigies with an insane fusion, and a namekian who got his deserved transformation, against the roaming threat that is Black Frieza...
    Tho I maybe feel a little bad for the other humans

  • @ihopespaceisedible330
    @ihopespaceisedible330 4 місяці тому +3

    The agenda thumbnail 😂

    • @kumaraditya7372
      @kumaraditya7372 4 місяці тому

      Goku crying>>>>gohan so called agenda😂

  • @Agent-57
    @Agent-57 4 місяці тому

    Goku in next arc.
    "Lol, LMAO even"

  • @supreme_doge_yt7509
    @supreme_doge_yt7509 4 місяці тому +2

    Gohan rn getting hype but remember he will always be a temporary hype tool 😭

  • @yo-kai6124
    @yo-kai6124 4 місяці тому +1

    The editing is fire in this vid

  • @diosenjuamv
    @diosenjuamv 4 місяці тому +2

    I don’t agree but since you guys worked hard making this video I respect it💯💪🏾

  • @Imneithergokunorvegeta
    @Imneithergokunorvegeta 4 місяці тому +6

    Ive been saying Gohan is the strongest since Super hero movie came out in 2022. And Ive been getting a lot of hate from saying that😂.

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +5

      Me too fam, gohan fans still winning tho

    • @Chaoskingdonovan
      @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому +3

      Ong people just can’t accept the truth to imature I guess 😪

  • @legendhomies47
    @legendhomies47 4 місяці тому +4

    Black frieza onetaps Gohan

  • @Amature_Editor
    @Amature_Editor 4 місяці тому +2

    Your Making what Gohan does 100x better than it really is

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому

      Cope harder

  • @selfloathinggivesmelife7810
    @selfloathinggivesmelife7810 4 місяці тому

    The Goku and Vegeta Defense Force are probably putting a hit out on you guys as we speak.
    Godspeed gentlemen.

  • @rodthedigger2902
    @rodthedigger2902 4 місяці тому +2

    Great video!

  • @jayjay-pm3ki
    @jayjay-pm3ki 4 місяці тому +1

    notice how goku instantly went back to mui and vegeta's statement about goku forfeiting?

    • @hortinus
      @hortinus Місяць тому

      Cry more, he got one shot 😂

    • @ACertainMan
      @ACertainMan Місяць тому

      notice how Vegeta also went back into evolution after being knocked out by Moro 73?
      Notice how Vegeta didn't know that this was a sparing match and not a battle to the end?

  • @Dooku-Production
    @Dooku-Production 4 місяці тому +1

    We Need A Video About Phoenix

  • @JustDrown
    @JustDrown 4 місяці тому +3

    Didn’t it all end in a draw? Idc about who stronger i just want another universal tournament also goku solo’s 🥱

    • @mrrogers3581
      @mrrogers3581 2 місяці тому +2

      Goku stopped the fight, but before he did that he was LOSING

  • @LuhZay3
    @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +1

    W Gohan Vid💪🏽

  • @kaienglish271
    @kaienglish271 4 місяці тому +2

    Doesn’t father -Son Duo just mean they are the strongest father and son ? 😂 UE Vegeta and SSJ Teen trunks wouldn’t be considered the strongest father son Duo if that makes sense

    • @Tylearned
      @Tylearned  4 місяці тому +1

      It’s not because they’re fighting each other. Think of it as like how gojo and sukuna were being hyped up before the fight.

  • @Ghiso-mr5fs
    @Ghiso-mr5fs 4 місяці тому

    My goat Big Goheezy back on top once again!!

  • @tobin2.0
    @tobin2.0 3 місяці тому

    Future Gohan crying in the corner

  • @Professor_Fiction
    @Professor_Fiction 4 місяці тому

    Don’t take a shot every time Gohan transforms, trust me

  • @speedbeyondlogic
    @speedbeyondlogic Місяць тому

    Goku wasn't trying to win or beat gohan. He didn't use any of his techniques. Beast gohan only landed one solid hit and it was after gohan gathered a huge amount of ki, boosted his ki up and almost went berserk until he got control of himself. Goku reacted to and evaded every attack then blocked gohan's punch but had to use both his arms. Gohan then immediately follows up with a kick which it was something gohan was happy about because it was his only clean and goku got right back up after it landed and when they continued after that, goku was fighting gohan and at a certain point stopped looking at him and while still handling gohan, goku focused his attention on broly. When goku was done testing gohan, goku without physically touching gohan pushes him away a good distance with one hand. In a real fight goku would win and if used his giant ki form he would ragdoll gohan.

  • @unquercross3276
    @unquercross3276 4 місяці тому +7

    Gohan being stronger than Goku and Vegeta is just ridiculous tbh, he got his beast form with 0 training, potentially years without any sort of workout... Goku and Vegeta have been training for years with gods and angels, unlocked UI and UE... Even if Gohan has more potential than they do, he being at their level just like that, makes no sense. Sure, he trained to master the transformation I guess??? But seriously?? I like that he is back to being relevant, but like.... DBS scaling makes 0 sense

    • @XTODONE
      @XTODONE 4 місяці тому +7

      Unfortunately thats what they have to do to make gohan stay relevant 🤷🏾

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +3

      You don’t have to like it, but you will watch/read it

    • @Chaoskingdonovan
      @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому +1

      Womp womp get over it

    • @stevecavalle
      @stevecavalle 3 місяці тому

      Did you read Radditz arc ?

    • @gogetathegod5066
      @gogetathegod5066 2 місяці тому

      Mf never seen gohan apparently

  • @odin....
    @odin.... 4 місяці тому +2

    Rare tylearned W

  • @kingades1013
    @kingades1013 4 місяці тому +1

    Broly physically is the strongest. If he went ssjg he would be the one true one. In terms of brute strength…beast gohan is still the strongest until broly gets ssj2 or above (if he ever does)

  • @destinated
    @destinated 4 місяці тому +5

    Finally. People who ACTUALLY have media literacy and read the manga and aren't oblivious about Gohan's character.
    Good video!

  • @Generalmituna8079
    @Generalmituna8079 4 місяці тому +5

    Bro is still a Beerus victim though 💀💀💀💀

  • @OscarKi3519t
    @OscarKi3519t 4 місяці тому

    rip to the goat akira , now the series has ended for me

  • @ragequitgaming2795
    @ragequitgaming2795 4 місяці тому +1

    How did talk talking about how Gohan would beat Goku give you CTE? 16:25

  • @teamnarrowspades9726
    @teamnarrowspades9726 2 місяці тому

    Gohan is the king of ass pull power ups . Mans not even as strong as top in the TOP lol then trains casualy off screen gets man then surpasses everyone casualy

  • @muirick9924
    @muirick9924 4 місяці тому

    Goku held back lol

    • @mrrogers3581
      @mrrogers3581 2 місяці тому +1

      Do you know how to read? He literally says "let's go all out"

  • @Darkknight42Darkknight42
    @Darkknight42Darkknight42 4 місяці тому +5

    Wait till goku unlocks another form😅

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +1

      Cope

    • @rewriteanime
      @rewriteanime 4 місяці тому +1

      Wait till Gohan unlocks the next level of beast: Ultra Beast Evolution

    • @Darkknight42Darkknight42
      @Darkknight42Darkknight42 4 місяці тому +1

      @@LuhZay3 wdym bro is the MC of course he gonna unlock another form

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому

      @@Darkknight42Darkknight42 well you’re not wrong🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Chaoskingdonovan
      @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому

      Womp womp

  • @goldenshadow9776
    @goldenshadow9776 4 місяці тому

    "But can he beat cc goku tho?"

  • @noxkurosaki4213
    @noxkurosaki4213 4 місяці тому +2

    Better be safe bro, there are some wild Goku fans outta there but thanks for telling the truth nonetheless 😭.

  • @lakithchandra8901
    @lakithchandra8901 4 місяці тому +3

    Awesome video man

    • @cashrock505
      @cashrock505 4 місяці тому +1

      It's 16 minutes long and came out 4 minutes ago
      You have no idea what in the video dawg

    • @nightmareorigins7210
      @nightmareorigins7210 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@cashrock505 I was just about to say that, bro did not watch ts yet💀

    • @lakithchandra8901
      @lakithchandra8901 4 місяці тому

      Sorry I got excited

  • @mohdotoomuch
    @mohdotoomuch 4 місяці тому +2

    Firsts off Goku wasnt trying to kill Gohan.i agree Gohan might have more power than Goku but Goku would still win goku is just more skilled and experienced

  • @Yasin_Anime
    @Yasin_Anime 4 місяці тому

    Bro please make 1 a video Ryuga vs Kai 🥲

  • @Randomguyusee
    @Randomguyusee 4 місяці тому +3

    the fight of goku and gohan was a high diff in a sparing match we will never see them have a all out battle to death until then we cant say

    • @G-LukeJA
      @G-LukeJA 4 місяці тому +3

      Cope

    • @Randomguyusee
      @Randomguyusee 4 місяці тому +2

      @@G-LukeJAwhat is there a to cope for when I speak facts

    • @DarthLord-eq5wp
      @DarthLord-eq5wp 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Randomguyuseeyou right bro

    • @Randomguyusee
      @Randomguyusee 4 місяці тому

      @@DarthLord-eq5wp ikr

    • @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy
      @Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy 4 місяці тому +1

      So then we'll never be able to say. Because their never gonna do that. Id be surprised if the writing went into that direction though.

  • @muirick9924
    @muirick9924 4 місяці тому

    6:50 your opinion actually

  • @elwey3996
    @elwey3996 4 місяці тому

    bro is spitting facts. But I disagree about broly being stronger in his controlled ssj, full power is far stronger imo just like his z version

  • @billybob4532
    @billybob4532 4 місяці тому

    Bruh you saw the new Cobra Kai teaser?

  • @yashaoftheflames8475
    @yashaoftheflames8475 4 місяці тому

    But could he beat 500 Quintilian ^2 ^2 pit bulls trained by Micheal Vic?

  • @Agent-57
    @Agent-57 4 місяці тому

    Several mistakes in this video.
    - True UI is not Omen UI. They look similar but True UI > MUI
    - Neither Whis or Beerus have seen that form. Thus there statement is to be taken with a grain of salt.
    - The statement for the movies do not apply to the manga. The movie was written in 2019-2020. Granola arc didn't even start yet.
    - Gohan and Piccolo's statements are ignorant. They are unaware of events on Planet Cereal.

    • @hortinus
      @hortinus Місяць тому +1

      Beast Gohan > TUI Goku. Cope more 😂

  • @AbyanBurhanu
    @AbyanBurhanu 4 місяці тому

    anotha w

  • @dani.0510
    @dani.0510 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh wow, so original. K bye

  • @coca_koko520
    @coca_koko520 2 місяці тому

    Btw people are saying you are wrong aand goku was holding back

    • @mrrogers3581
      @mrrogers3581 2 місяці тому +1

      Ok? Facts are facts regardless

    • @coca_koko520
      @coca_koko520 2 місяці тому

      @@mrrogers3581 ok but I'm telling him th at he was wrong in some of what he said

  • @cipher697
    @cipher697 4 місяці тому +1

    frieza solos

  • @i-xn4cp
    @i-xn4cp 4 місяці тому

    kashimo kills yuta

  • @geraldoedoby6868
    @geraldoedoby6868 4 місяці тому +1

    Gohan doesn't surpas goku.

    • @mrrogers3581
      @mrrogers3581 2 місяці тому

      Facts don't care about feelings

  • @louiswalusimbi8006
    @louiswalusimbi8006 4 місяці тому +2

    It’s hard to be a dragon ball fan rn, cause Gohan is no where near as good a character as Goku.

  • @FMBeelz
    @FMBeelz 4 місяці тому

    Bro who does the thumbnail art?

  • @dbzmods6429
    @dbzmods6429 4 місяці тому

    Gohan won't be the strongest z fighter for much longer i can tell you that lol. He will get surpassed again.

  • @SkyRider4815
    @SkyRider4815 4 місяці тому

    So controlled ssj broly is equal to mui goku?

  • @African-AmericanGoose
    @African-AmericanGoose 4 місяці тому +1

    *Goku still slams*

  • @kodjoxerxes
    @kodjoxerxes 4 місяці тому +1

    My only issue is this: Alot of this assumes the rules are being applied consistently. It would not be the first time the rules are shifted to suit Goku being stronger. Nothing against Gohan taking top spot, but it's not unfair to think that Goku could have really been holding back and at his "true" peak, could beat Gohan entirely. Plus, there's a somewhat noticeable skill gap people can mention, so yeah. Thoughts?

  • @Chaoskingdonovan
    @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому +2

    To all the Gohan haters and people in denial that Gohan mid diffs because they can’t get goku’s meat out there mount uh Womp womp cope

  • @Chriso22
    @Chriso22 4 місяці тому

    Im gonna read the latest chapter before watching then after watching this i will decide if i agree or Dissagree

  • @capykid45
    @capykid45 4 місяці тому

    Deku and Naruto

  • @genjii5060
    @genjii5060 4 місяці тому

    i want you to talk about godzilla or sum shit

  • @AphiweMayinje
    @AphiweMayinje 4 місяці тому +4

    the bias is so obvious

    • @kumaraditya7372
      @kumaraditya7372 4 місяці тому +9

      Yeh something wrong with Goku fiends

    • @doriankamanzi6874
      @doriankamanzi6874 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kumaraditya7372there is definitely something wrong with them because they are blatantly ignoring the fact that people like Gohan and broly they just grow too fast. They're they're just abnormal but there is definitely a lot of bias like the part where they said Goku got kicked out of his ultra instinct. I know he didn't. They're comparing it to times where Goku was extremely exhausted and tired. That's why gas was able to kick him out of the form and then jiren was only because he scared him cuz of his power level. Neither of these examples are the same. If we're to say that Gohan kicked Goku so hard, he got him out of his ultra instinct form that implies that he took that much damage from one kick. No, that is a blatant lie. We've seen Goku needs to be on the brink before he starts not being able to hold forms. He clearly just got out of the form of his own and there are many other times where they are definitely biased to gohan on this channel. They're very much show their bias but blatantly go hunt definitely does have the potential. If not already being stronger then Goku but he is the strong enough to one punch him out of his form yet

  • @the_marvelous_one
    @the_marvelous_one 4 місяці тому

    The thumbnail is accurate

  • @greenhulu55
    @greenhulu55 4 місяці тому

    What about CC Goku ?

  • @ithoughtso.7016
    @ithoughtso.7016 4 місяці тому +1

    Cap goku solos

  • @vont8364
    @vont8364 4 місяці тому

    just as a point mui from the anime and the manga are not the same no form of manga goku is stronger than mui from the T.O.P.

    • @vont8364
      @vont8364 4 місяці тому

      manga and anime are also just 2 different continuities with numerous things not happening in one or the other and the entire jiren fight is different. gohan beast in the anime and manga are also different

    • @maritimesteak8540
      @maritimesteak8540 4 місяці тому

      Debatable but narratively it's stronger feat wise it's weaker. And some would argue feat wise it's stronger too. But I'm not that camp

    • @vont8364
      @vont8364 4 місяці тому

      @@maritimesteak8540 narratively speaking beerus is still superior to the entirety of the cast including black frieza and gohan beast who werent stated to have surpassed the gods like anime jiren and goku. manga goku also never actually surpasses jiren either. the manga and anime have quite different continuities with gohan beast being perceived differently in both as well. MUI from the anime is also just the current manga MUI but better as anime goku can actually use his emotions to get stronger

  • @lordadz1615
    @lordadz1615 4 місяці тому +3

    Gohan glazing

    • @mohitnair2541
      @mohitnair2541 4 місяці тому +3

      Is it really glazing if he’s always been known to get these insane jumps and surpass everyone with far less training

    • @doriankamanzi6874
      @doriankamanzi6874 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@mohitnair2541They're definitely right on many cases, but they did definitely glaze him in a lot of areas. They said that Gohan kicked Goku out of ultra instinct. No, he didn't. He kicked him and Goku went out of ultra instinct on his own choice. Clearly they two examples they used was when Goku got scared out of his form by jiren which was only because of the power Gap and the intimidation which Goku didn't have in this case and then they showed gas who kicked him out of super Saiyan blue. Not only is that a tiring exhausting form on him but he was already battered and bruised from his fight against granola. He had holes in his body. He was exhausted. He already pushed himself unless we're saying that one kick from Gohan was enough to lower goku's strength to the point of which he couldn't hold ultra instinct, which is crazy to say no. He just went out of the form of his own choice or maybe the shock that that punch was so strong. Just shocked him out of the form but it wasn't. The fact of his power was enough to do it. He may have just been a little shaken that damn this was strong than I expected. Kind of thing

    • @sptflcrw8583
      @sptflcrw8583 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@doriankamanzi6874cope more

    • @firefistace5230
      @firefistace5230 4 місяці тому

      Goku fans

    • @firefistace5230
      @firefistace5230 4 місяці тому

      @@doriankamanzi6874one those examples are horrible your comparing a full power goku not tired at all to a exhausted ssb not a good comparison

  • @Zakiour
    @Zakiour 4 місяці тому

    Clicked for the thumbnail but I think that ui sign goku might give more trouble than the silver haired goku since gas stated that the black hair ui almost was as strong as gas but the silver hair wasn’t.

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +2

      You clearly haven’t been paying attention

  • @NighScaling
    @NighScaling 4 місяці тому +1

    Imagine needing 2 God form amps just to keep up with normal mortals
    This comment was sponsored by Gohan, Piccolo, Kefla, Jiren, Broly, Frieza and a way too many Androids

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +2

      Nah fr god ki is really a joke fr

    • @zodiac5790
      @zodiac5790 4 місяці тому +2

      Kefla lost to T.O.P gohan lmfao

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому +1

      @@zodiac5790 in the manga

    • @zodiac5790
      @zodiac5790 4 місяці тому +1

      @@LuhZay3 the canon one

    • @LuhZay3
      @LuhZay3 4 місяці тому

      @@zodiac5790 tru tru

  • @i-xn4cp
    @i-xn4cp 4 місяці тому

    kashimo>>>>>yuta

  • @BingQiLing.
    @BingQiLing. 4 місяці тому

    Never let bro cook again

  • @spring_barger6575
    @spring_barger6575 4 місяці тому

    I personally think Goku's UI sign form is currently stronger than his silver haired UI form bcoz he told gas "it seems I'm just barely stronger than you now" after entering the form since he could use his saiyan rage. But i still do think Gohan is tronger than Goku in his silver haired UI form at the very least

    • @Tylearned
      @Tylearned  4 місяці тому +9

      It was implied it was better for the situation not that it was stronger iirc

    • @doriankamanzi6874
      @doriankamanzi6874 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Tylearnedone question, you guys keep saying that the susano form he has isn't stronger but isn't it more just like a buff to his current power level. So wouldn't it not be that it's weaker but that it literally just adds on to his strength since it's not like a form itself also, I don't want Gohan to be stronger. My childhood dislikes it even though it's true 😭

    • @Chaoskingdonovan
      @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому +1

      @@doriankamanzi6874no it’s not all it does is allow him to bind people and keep him protected

    • @doriankamanzi6874
      @doriankamanzi6874 4 місяці тому

      @@Chaoskingdonovan are you implying that a giant ki Goku is not stronger than normal Goku physically. It definitely is. Maybe there's an arguement that it's not as defensive as Goku, but it most likely is since it's his ki key equals defence durability so it probably is more durable and stronger. It would be like the same exact logic as a normal susano there's no reason to believe it wouldn't be stronger than normal Goku or more defensive or else it's kind of useless against enemies who are just as strong now it's just a bigger target all of a sudden

    • @Chaoskingdonovan
      @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому +2

      @@doriankamanzi6874 I’m not saying he isn’t I’m saying like implied in the recent chapter In most situations mui is the better way to go

  • @Dave-gk6si
    @Dave-gk6si 4 місяці тому +9

    Clickbait video made by Gohan fanatics

    • @JbLoco
      @JbLoco 4 місяці тому +10

      We must of read a different chapter. Cause Gohan is definitely stronger than Goku

    • @Warlord-dc5un
      @Warlord-dc5un 4 місяці тому +4

      Premium copium in this comment right here...

    • @Tylearned
      @Tylearned  4 місяці тому +9

      Can you watch the vid and not say dumb shit please 🙏

    • @ilyquincy
      @ilyquincy 4 місяці тому +1

      womp womp

    • @Dave-gk6si
      @Dave-gk6si 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Tylearned Dude, come on. 💯% Beast vs a restrained MUI Goku, is a canon fact.

  • @GGG65.
    @GGG65. 4 місяці тому +2

    yea gohan high-extreme diffs goku currently
    black frezia > gohan (mid diff)
    gohan > goku (high-extreme diff)
    goku > vegeta (high diff)
    vegeta > broly (high diff)
    broly > piccolo (high diff)

  • @TrueReverse74
    @TrueReverse74 4 місяці тому

    Considering goku didn't use Tui, Goku was 100% holding back against gohan like he said he did and was not trying, granted the same is probably for gohan, but I don't find Gohan hitting goku and goku powering down to be evidence that he's stronger considering he was A-ok, not tired and proceeded to fight even more with no fatigue issues either. Tui is stronger than Mui so why that isn't taken into account here is beyond me.

    • @Chaoskingdonovan
      @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому +4

      Considering who’s said mui is stronger I think you didn’t watch the video

    • @mrrogers3581
      @mrrogers3581 2 місяці тому +1

      You're wrong

  • @NMbones98
    @NMbones98 4 місяці тому

    Nah nice vid but im not convinced Gohan slams Goku sure he is stronger and would have won during that encounter but if he has to charge up the burst ability every time I dont see him winning against goku like that and consistently i see goku going the distance now if Gohan does not need to constantly charge his one tap ability then i will concede to gohan slamming goku as of now im not convinced.

  • @andrewfairweather4742
    @andrewfairweather4742 4 місяці тому

    No he does not
    Edit: I believe that Goku in terms of battle knowledge, experience, and skills allow him to beat Gohan but Gohans insane potential allows him to surpass all these so for now Goku in my opinion barely is better than him due to just how much fighting experience

  • @qtindavis433
    @qtindavis433 4 місяці тому

    thats not correct. goku showed more focus increases his use of MUI and didnt show his max. but gohan did

    • @Chaoskingdonovan
      @Chaoskingdonovan 4 місяці тому

      Goku did show his max profincy Gohan didn’t he said he brefly used somthing simians that breif instance he knocked and trying mui fp goku to base

    • @qtindavis433
      @qtindavis433 4 місяці тому

      @@Chaoskingdonovan no he didnt. you have nothing to prove he did. goku literally showd the nore focus he has the better ui works. so what. goku has to be focused and gohan surprised him. which takes him out of the form. gohan did use his max. he even said. wtf

    • @BrandonGarzon-e4i
      @BrandonGarzon-e4i 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@qtindavis433 gohan literally moved faster then mui can keep up this isn't up for debate it's literally stated that means gohan would just overpower him if the fighte kept going yall goku fans are coping so hard 😂

    • @firefistace5230
      @firefistace5230 4 місяці тому

      @@qtindavis433gohan didn’t say he used his max he says he tap into his current max power and he even says he can’t control the form yet😭

    • @qtindavis433
      @qtindavis433 4 місяці тому

      @@firefistace5230 he used his max, cope.

  • @rayyanjamil6966
    @rayyanjamil6966 4 місяці тому

    Easily debunkable. Everything said in this video is false. TUI is Goku's strongest form as we can see from his fight with Gas. Beerus is ASKING Whis a question not saying this is Goku's strongest form and Whis replies with it would SEEM so implying he doesn't know.

  • @user-bn2tj7dx6o
    @user-bn2tj7dx6o 4 місяці тому +2

    Gohan agenda >>>

    • @kumaraditya7372
      @kumaraditya7372 4 місяці тому

      Yeh Goku will surpass Gohan when get another new form not now

    • @astonth2863
      @astonth2863 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Underworldwarrior1 to be honest i quit power scaling 2 years ago. But from my view goku and gohan were just sparring and not going to the death yk what i mean. like no tui or zenkai nothing.

    • @kaienglish271
      @kaienglish271 4 місяці тому

      @@astonth2863Tui isn’t his strongest. Tbh I still got Vegeta the strongest out of all of them

    • @user-bn2tj7dx6o
      @user-bn2tj7dx6o 4 місяці тому +1

      The reason Goku kept being stronger was Gohan quit training and that's not going to happen anymore.

    • @kumaraditya7372
      @kumaraditya7372 4 місяці тому

      @@Underworldwarrior1 in the end that it is not now

  • @G-LukeJA
    @G-LukeJA 4 місяці тому +1

    People are really coping in the comments, I didn't know DBZ had agendatards in their fanbase

    • @mrrogers3581
      @mrrogers3581 2 місяці тому

      Dragon ball fans are some of the dumbest people I've met

  • @i-xn4cp
    @i-xn4cp 4 місяці тому

    kashimo kills yuta

  • @MiguelTheAnomaly85
    @MiguelTheAnomaly85 4 місяці тому +10

    Nice video, Tylearn. i knew Gohan was definitely superior the day the chapter came out. But Goku fanboys can't accept that and are using the copium. They are just mad. Goku isn't the strongest anymore.

    • @wangawangekilundu3489
      @wangawangekilundu3489 4 місяці тому +2

      Gohan can have his spotlight now but the story is leading up to end of a anyways and guess who is the strong at the end of a?Goku

    • @mohitnair2541
      @mohitnair2541 4 місяці тому +4

      @@wangawangekilundu3489that’s then, this is now. Right now, Gohan is stronger. Later, Goku will surpass him, until the next time Gohan surpasses Goku yet again

    • @MiguelTheAnomaly85
      @MiguelTheAnomaly85 4 місяці тому +2

      @wangawangekilundu3489 Yeah, I agree Goku will definitely surpass Gohan. However, it even makes it worse that Gokutards are now mad. Gohan currently is superior when Goku has always been stronger for the majority of the time. Like fans were complaining that Gohan wanted a normal life and didn't train to become super ultra strong or whatever, but not that he is the strongest, and he is just like his cell saga self people are mad.

    • @legendhomies47
      @legendhomies47 4 місяці тому

      Gohan was getting thrown around by him and landed one hit

    • @MiguelTheAnomaly85
      @MiguelTheAnomaly85 4 місяці тому +4

      @@legendhomies47 by who? Goku? If you mean Goku? You clearly didn't watch the video or even read the manga