Yea I think slugging is pretty insane on pinhead, fun fact this build is in my pinhead guide :P only I can get pinhead nerfed coconut has nothing on my abusive pinhead gameplay >:D
I'm a killer main but I do agree that some killers or play styles are boring af for example I love playing legion and trapper but at the same time I hate facing them the same on the survivor side with background player or playing stealthy
I don't really get why survivors find slugging more annoying than hooking in general. I mean, you're either spending time doing nothing on a hook or you're spending time doing nothing on the ground. If anything, you can do more on the ground by positioning yourself to be picked up.
tbh the only annoying part is when the killer slugs all 4 survivors and just starts like idk what other word to use but like hump their bodies until all bleed out . i play solo Q so it happens a bit but it’s not really that big of a deal tbh
@@poissonsumac7922 yes it is😭, plus it gives me a weird ass feeling watching my character get humped until i bleed out, like r@pist mindset type of thing
@@exferior to be fair, usually once I've slugged everyone if I'm going to slug I'll hook everyone to end the game, now if the survivors were actively gen rushing like dropping 2 or 3 gens in first 2 minutes outright I am leaving everyone on the ground to wait their 3 minutes crawling. And if team wants to be a bunch of flashlight warriors spamming it every pallet, every time I touch someone or just me even moving around then I'm gonna leave them on the ground and give em a good pump. It's really no different than the survivors camping gates and waiting for me to show up and t-bag until I move forward. I've had quite a few do just that and then message saying I was a rookie, trash, ez win, etc.
@@Mr.MarvelX1 well that’s for bully squads i’m not talking abt bully squads at all , i can understand bully squads, but i don’t hump them until they die i just hook them after slugging , but idc if you do, it’s your life yk. i play solo Q we don’t even know each other which makes it’s a bit challenging so the killer humping us after slugging is a bit weird when we play normally
You know what's crazy is that behavior has come out with a bunch of perks that directly fix different strategies that survivors complain about. Tunneling? Decisive Strike and Off The Record. Slugging? Tenacity, Soul Guard, Unbreakable, Power Struggle, Flip Flop. Camping? Deliverance, Kindred, Reassurance, Camaraderie. Yet the people who complain about these strategies the most never take the perks and instead try to tell their opponent how they should play. No one is responsible for your fun but you.
Why should I waste 4 perk slots to counter a game mechanic that shouldnt be there in the first place? The slugging mechanic itself is outdated and makes no sense to have it nowadays since people have found a way to exploit it, and the problem with this one in particular is that while one guy is playing and "having fun" there are 4 survivors looking at the stars for 10 minutes, its on the killers hand to decide when the game is ended and that my friend is called getting hostaged. I hope BHVR revisits this mechanic and does something about it, as survivor you shouldnt have to bring 4 perks to counter 1 game mechanic that is wrong, thats called bad game design
@@mantastyle9078 Dude these mechanics have been in the game since the game came out like 8 years ago. That's the game. If you're not using the tools available that's on you. It's like complaining about camping or slide techs in call of duty lol. There's always going to be some frustrating element you have to deal with. That's just how the world we live in works. Pretending like you don't have the ability to deal with it because it's not exactly how you want it to be is just victim mentality.
@@mantastyle9078 killers have to bring at least 3 gen slowdown to have a chance to win against 4 swf in the current meta. Stop crying and get better at the game
I really like how Yun Jin was actually civil and took interest in the endgame chat in that first game, good on them for not being immediately accusatory and just taking the time to be interested and ask questions, need more survivors like them lol
It's honestly what Otzdarva said, the more BHVR makes other strategies worse, the more worse ones will be used. The process of hooking is a lot of downtime, there is no guarantee, you gotta do it 12 times and you get zero pressure from it unless you run the meta (Pain res, grim, DMS) which BHVR is actually trying to get rid of right now. To be fair, there are a lot of anti-slugging perks. Flip-flop + Power Struggle/Boil Over, Exponential, Unbreakable. There's matches where you also have to slug, since bully squads will bring oak offerings and all sorts of anti-hook items or survivors will abuse Boil Over by always running to some areas to make it impossible to hook.
Nice video! My playstyle has always been very slug-heavy, ever since I started playing when Freddy was released and especially back then OG Freddy made particularly good use of Knockout since you kind of had a built-in Deer Stalker with his old power
Had the craziest fucking thing happen to me yesterday; as I launched a chain attack, an AI chain spawned from the side and the two chains collided with each other mid-air, cancelling my attack. I was so stunned, I could not continue the match. I never thought that's even possible.
I’m really just here for the salty EGC. Especially when they think that “slugging” was somehow reportable or a bannable offence like lol okay good luck with that
Dude survivors in this game think they’re so entitled it’s disgusting I’m having twitch streamers tell me deal threats and telling me how I can and can’t play the damn video game 😂😂
Slugging is strong of course; depending on your killer, perks, and on wether the survivors are decent or bad. I slug ether when i don't care about winning or losing and just wanna farm bp. Because if i continously get into chase and down survivors over and over, and damage gens, it actually does give me more bp than just going for hooks. Usually i slug 3 and then just chase the last survivor round while letting the person heal the other survivors. Then down 1 of the 2 and then repeat. Its makes survivors upset, but honestly if their not getting gens done it more or less equals out to a regular game in regards to time as if i was still going for hooks anyway. In summary, slugging gives a lot of bp if done right. Ghostface is an effective slugger i will say
Hyper-slugging experiment on Pinhead, eh? I think the most cancerous slugging build I ever ran on Pinhead was: -Knock Out, Hex: Plaything (originally, Third Seal), Huntress's Lullaby Plus a flex pick depending on if I used a map offering or not: -(One of) Hex: Undying, Hex: Pentimento, Scourge Hook: Gift of Pain, or Scourge Hook: Monstrous Shrine Keep in mind that this build is OLD; from mid 2022, back when Dead Hard, Circle of Healing, etc were running rampant, and played through a good portion of the Made For This meta. So the add-ons varied quite a bit. Most of the time, I used Original Pain add-on to try and disable Exhaustion Perks upon starting chases at remote gens or when ambushing people afflicted with Plaything. The strat is to just play Pinhead Box Objective as usual until through raw attrition, I got some poor sap in a really awkward position either on the ground, or on a scourge hook while the rest of their team is blind and running around doing the 2-4 other side objectives I've handed them. (The only time I've ever gotten the full five Pentimento totems lit was on this build; people really want that Third Seal and Lullaby gone as soon as they realize what I'm doing). It gets blown out pretty easily if I don't get box control, but it works pretty okay for someone who is nowhere near as good as you are at Pinhead. One thing about this build that was indisputable: It was the biggest salt mine I ever made; even back in 2022 when survivors were boosted AF. Chain Hunt with Plaything is pretty mean on its own; doubly so when you can either slug or scourge hook someone to create pressure from across the map. Places like Badham, Haddonfield or Garden of Joy are normally EZ PZ GG Git Gud Scrub vs M1/115 killers like Pinhead because of the sheer amount of hiking you have to do to pressure objectives. But that strength turns into a massive liability when you don't know where your teammate went down, don't know where they're hooked and especially when they're dying more quickly. (due to Knock-Out, Third Seal and/or Plaything blocking the hook-aura that would lead to their rescue) The more time they waste trying to find their friends, the fewer of them available to contest the box and slam gens. Since you can just slug them down and chase the box normally, it only takes one remote hook to get the ball rolling.
the number of people who threaten to report amazes me🤣 literally on BHVR's faq with reports one of the first things they cross off is slugging/camping Keep up the good pinhead gameplay 👍
@@Spudmay because it decimates people not on coms and is worthless against people on coms. Absolutely horrendous design, if you are solo Que you get to sit on the floor for 4 minutes just because people can’t find you quickly.
@@fieldagentreaper maybe having the aura visibility slowly grow over time? I can see your point, but I do really like the perk. I enjoy slugging on occasion, and I think making survivors go hunt for a downed guy is a cool concept. As for against survivors on comms, they invalidate plenty of stuff already lol
I learned that slugging is insane right now by playing Sadeko my whole build is literally just a slug build and I got a 47 game win streak due to just not hooking and going specifically for condemn
Jokes on that Feng slugging aint bannable. Btw I learned alot from you and I am still trying to learn pinhead wish I could send you my gameplay against a streamer
Anything that makes survivors miserable is something you MUST do. All that trying to play nice gets you is survivors BMing and then gloating in post game. Them whining is much more preferable, imo
My favorite thing that has happened is when someone told me “slugging in 2024? You’re pathetic. Can’t wait for you to get banned.” When it wasn’t even a slug build it was just slugging for 4k because they brought map offering. I feel like players complaining about playstyles in 2024 is more pathetic lol
I think depending on the situation of the match you in i personally don’t like doing it cuz it’s just boring to play that way but won’t lie when doing it feels dirty in a great way
not as good because caging is better then slugging, forcing cages will always be better then slugging unless they are doing everything possible to not get tormented
yeaaaa once I did my 10 games I stopped doing this, its extreamly toxic like one of the few builds that I actually think is toxic in this game and its very unfun for survivors
Maybe try to match their energy if they are sweating slug them if they are chill or you notice that they are solo q babies play normally so they have fun
@white_hound6811 that's the thing though. I have to overly sweat just to match their energy if I go in with bp farm build(haven't ran distressing, beast of prey, thrill of the hunt combo for a year or so). It's funny that I used to get so many hate messages end game when I matched their energy with crappy build than using an annoying build, like Franklin's and unweaving combo. I don't think I've ever gotten a complaint when I used two gen slowdown combo. But God forbid killers to slug or tunnel, even when doors are powered.
Slugging is boring as hell, the only joy to find is getting a reaction out of the survivors which is lame on its own. There are few good reasons to slug, this definitely isn't that lol
Pinhead by far the best for being just nasty cuz cant forget about that dang mox and with more and more being sluged and the box not done. Im in love but im struggling hard on my controller with him. Ima stick with pp head fre moris. Im done tou know youre just a total bad @ss with the killer when you max out your chain ls not even half way though the match.
Problem with slugging is that at the other side of the screen there is a guy who is wasting 10 minutes of the day doing literally nothing, because you decided to be this way. I get slugging is the optimal thing to do rn but I also think that we as a community and specially as humans we are we should put ourselves on the other side and try to see if we would like to be left out in the ground for 10 minutes or not. I dont think anyone will answer "yeah i would love to be left on the ground until bleed out". I know lot of friends that stoped playing the game because of this and more and more people is doing it, at some point BHRV will implement something to either incentivize the killer to hook or for the surv to be bleed out faster. I just hope that when this happens the game is not in a point of no return for a lot of people
Yea I think slugging is pretty insane on pinhead, fun fact this build is in my pinhead guide :P only I can get pinhead nerfed coconut has nothing on my abusive pinhead gameplay >:D
no your not the only person who can get pinhead nerfed. like your the best so calm down
Loser above me 👆
"Oh please, no tears, they are a waste of good suffering" build
actually though LOL
What a waste.
Short answer: yes
long answer: y e s
It's funny how many survivors confuse the words 'difficult' and 'boring'.
Yup
I'm a killer main but I do agree that some killers or play styles are boring af for example I love playing legion and trapper but at the same time I hate facing them the same on the survivor side with background player or playing stealthy
I don't really get why survivors find slugging more annoying than hooking in general. I mean, you're either spending time doing nothing on a hook or you're spending time doing nothing on the ground. If anything, you can do more on the ground by positioning yourself to be picked up.
tbh the only annoying part is when the killer slugs all 4 survivors and just starts like idk what other word to use but like hump their bodies until all bleed out . i play solo Q so it happens a bit but it’s not really that big of a deal tbh
@@exferior Oh, that's obnoxious. Bad sportsmanship.
@@poissonsumac7922 yes it is😭, plus it gives me a weird ass feeling watching my character get humped until i bleed out, like r@pist mindset type of thing
@@exferior to be fair, usually once I've slugged everyone if I'm going to slug I'll hook everyone to end the game, now if the survivors were actively gen rushing like dropping 2 or 3 gens in first 2 minutes outright I am leaving everyone on the ground to wait their 3 minutes crawling. And if team wants to be a bunch of flashlight warriors spamming it every pallet, every time I touch someone or just me even moving around then I'm gonna leave them on the ground and give em a good pump. It's really no different than the survivors camping gates and waiting for me to show up and t-bag until I move forward. I've had quite a few do just that and then message saying I was a rookie, trash, ez win, etc.
@@Mr.MarvelX1 well that’s for bully squads i’m not talking abt bully squads at all , i can understand bully squads, but i don’t hump them until they die i just hook them after slugging , but idc if you do, it’s your life yk. i play solo Q we don’t even know each other which makes it’s a bit challenging so the killer humping us after slugging is a bit weird when we play normally
No views in one minute, that is perfectly reasonable and I hope you’re having a great day
I hope you are also having a wonderful day :3
You know what's crazy is that behavior has come out with a bunch of perks that directly fix different strategies that survivors complain about. Tunneling? Decisive Strike and Off The Record. Slugging? Tenacity, Soul Guard, Unbreakable, Power Struggle, Flip Flop. Camping? Deliverance, Kindred, Reassurance, Camaraderie. Yet the people who complain about these strategies the most never take the perks and instead try to tell their opponent how they should play. No one is responsible for your fun but you.
Why should I waste 4 perk slots to counter a game mechanic that shouldnt be there in the first place? The slugging mechanic itself is outdated and makes no sense to have it nowadays since people have found a way to exploit it, and the problem with this one in particular is that while one guy is playing and "having fun" there are 4 survivors looking at the stars for 10 minutes, its on the killers hand to decide when the game is ended and that my friend is called getting hostaged. I hope BHVR revisits this mechanic and does something about it, as survivor you shouldnt have to bring 4 perks to counter 1 game mechanic that is wrong, thats called bad game design
@@mantastyle9078 Dude these mechanics have been in the game since the game came out like 8 years ago. That's the game. If you're not using the tools available that's on you. It's like complaining about camping or slide techs in call of duty lol. There's always going to be some frustrating element you have to deal with. That's just how the world we live in works. Pretending like you don't have the ability to deal with it because it's not exactly how you want it to be is just victim mentality.
@@kevingrisler4123 yeah because on me Guy being able to hostage 4 people is a good mechanic
Thats true
@@mantastyle9078 killers have to bring at least 3 gen slowdown to have a chance to win against 4 swf in the current meta. Stop crying and get better at the game
"Get over it womp womp" to the Jill almost had me spit out my coffee LMAO
Singularity the real king of slugging
yup i slug sable squad at 1 gens and they dont like that
I really like how Yun Jin was actually civil and took interest in the endgame chat in that first game, good on them for not being immediately accusatory and just taking the time to be interested and ask questions, need more survivors like them lol
indeed, it was quite surprising to see that happen
With both buffed Blood Rush AND Deathbound.. jeah this playstyle is gonna be stronger than hooking at least starting next patch for sure..
It's honestly what Otzdarva said, the more BHVR makes other strategies worse, the more worse ones will be used. The process of hooking is a lot of downtime, there is no guarantee, you gotta do it 12 times and you get zero pressure from it unless you run the meta (Pain res, grim, DMS) which BHVR is actually trying to get rid of right now.
To be fair, there are a lot of anti-slugging perks. Flip-flop + Power Struggle/Boil Over, Exponential, Unbreakable. There's matches where you also have to slug, since bully squads will bring oak offerings and all sorts of anti-hook items or survivors will abuse Boil Over by always running to some areas to make it impossible to hook.
Nice video! My playstyle has always been very slug-heavy, ever since I started playing when Freddy was released and especially back then OG Freddy made particularly good use of Knockout since you kind of had a built-in Deer Stalker with his old power
Clicking on a video about Pinhead and getting blasted with the nostalgic Super Mario Galaxy theme elicits a strange emotion within me.
idk why but it just works so well for dbd videos, I cant explain it
Had the craziest fucking thing happen to me yesterday; as I launched a chain attack, an AI chain spawned from the side and the two chains collided with each other mid-air, cancelling my attack. I was so stunned, I could not continue the match. I never thought that's even possible.
I’m really just here for the salty EGC.
Especially when they think that “slugging” was somehow reportable or a bannable offence like lol okay good luck with that
Dude survivors in this game think they’re so entitled it’s disgusting I’m having twitch streamers tell me deal threats and telling me how I can and can’t play the damn video game 😂😂
Unbreakable basekit incoming. If the killer is within 30 meters they can add a soul guard effect (endurance) as well.
and 1 gen automatically done if you loop a killer for less than 15 seconds
Get one health state if the killer tunnels for more than 5 seconds
*hook state
Slugging is strong of course; depending on your killer, perks, and on wether the survivors are decent or bad. I slug ether when i don't care about winning or losing and just wanna farm bp. Because if i continously get into chase and down survivors over and over, and damage gens, it actually does give me more bp than just going for hooks. Usually i slug 3 and then just chase the last survivor round while letting the person heal the other survivors. Then down 1 of the 2 and then repeat. Its makes survivors upset, but honestly if their not getting gens done it more or less equals out to a regular game in regards to time as if i was still going for hooks anyway. In summary, slugging gives a lot of bp if done right. Ghostface is an effective slugger i will say
Hyper-slugging experiment on Pinhead, eh?
I think the most cancerous slugging build I ever ran on Pinhead was:
-Knock Out, Hex: Plaything (originally, Third Seal), Huntress's Lullaby
Plus a flex pick depending on if I used a map offering or not:
-(One of) Hex: Undying, Hex: Pentimento, Scourge Hook: Gift of Pain, or Scourge Hook: Monstrous Shrine
Keep in mind that this build is OLD; from mid 2022, back when Dead Hard, Circle of Healing, etc were running rampant, and played through a good portion of the Made For This meta. So the add-ons varied quite a bit. Most of the time, I used Original Pain add-on to try and disable Exhaustion Perks upon starting chases at remote gens or when ambushing people afflicted with Plaything.
The strat is to just play Pinhead Box Objective as usual until through raw attrition, I got some poor sap in a really awkward position either on the ground, or on a scourge hook while the rest of their team is blind and running around doing the 2-4 other side objectives I've handed them. (The only time I've ever gotten the full five Pentimento totems lit was on this build; people really want that Third Seal and Lullaby gone as soon as they realize what I'm doing).
It gets blown out pretty easily if I don't get box control, but it works pretty okay for someone who is nowhere near as good as you are at Pinhead.
One thing about this build that was indisputable: It was the biggest salt mine I ever made; even back in 2022 when survivors were boosted AF.
Chain Hunt with Plaything is pretty mean on its own; doubly so when you can either slug or scourge hook someone to create pressure from across the map.
Places like Badham, Haddonfield or Garden of Joy are normally EZ PZ GG Git Gud Scrub vs M1/115 killers like Pinhead because of the sheer amount of hiking you have to do to pressure objectives. But that strength turns into a massive liability when you don't know where your teammate went down, don't know where they're hooked and especially when they're dying more quickly. (due to Knock-Out, Third Seal and/or Plaything blocking the hook-aura that would lead to their rescue)
The more time they waste trying to find their friends, the fewer of them available to contest the box and slam gens. Since you can just slug them down and chase the box normally, it only takes one remote hook to get the ball rolling.
the number of people who threaten to report amazes me🤣
literally on BHVR's faq with reports one of the first things they cross off is slugging/camping
Keep up the good pinhead gameplay 👍
Dude I admire your looping skills with pinhead especially when you loop And use the chain while you mind game
People only say knockout needs a change because they don't want to admit it's a cool perk.
It's frightening
It really isn’t a cool perk lmao it’s pretty unhealthy
@@fieldagentreaper how so?
@@Spudmay because it decimates people not on coms and is worthless against people on coms. Absolutely horrendous design, if you are solo Que you get to sit on the floor for 4 minutes just because people can’t find you quickly.
@@fieldagentreaper maybe having the aura visibility slowly grow over time?
I can see your point, but I do really like the perk. I enjoy slugging on occasion, and I think making survivors go hunt for a downed guy is a cool concept.
As for against survivors on comms, they invalidate plenty of stuff already lol
Dam the lighting bug on Badham really makes the map look better.
If it always looked like this I could almost forgive the terrible map design.
I learned that slugging is insane right now by playing Sadeko my whole build is literally just a slug build and I got a 47 game win streak due to just not hooking and going specifically for condemn
Jokes on that Feng slugging aint bannable. Btw I learned alot from you and I am still trying to learn pinhead wish I could send you my gameplay against a streamer
First, i love your vids man, best pinhead main on youtube.
Have a chocky milk because you are epic
@@fieldagentreaper i appreciate it
Anything that makes survivors miserable is something you MUST do.
All that trying to play nice gets you is survivors BMing and then gloating in post game.
Them whining is much more preferable, imo
My favorite thing that has happened is when someone told me “slugging in 2024? You’re pathetic. Can’t wait for you to get banned.” When it wasn’t even a slug build it was just slugging for 4k because they brought map offering. I feel like players complaining about playstyles in 2024 is more pathetic lol
I think depending on the situation of the match you in i personally don’t like doing it cuz it’s just boring to play that way but won’t lie when doing it feels dirty in a great way
They're gonna call the cyber police, consequences will never be the same! 😅
Sometimes I see some people complaining why do you play like this or why do you do this? Just play and enjoy, stop crying.
It's useless to try to reason with survivors lol.
So where can we see the results of this “experiment” when it’s finished? I’m really curious to see the results.
carnis channel link in description, when its done it will be posted on her channel
@@fieldagentreaper Thanks
The place where all pinhead mains gather
The goat
How do you think this build would work on Pyramid Head? Also love the content man
not as good because caging is better then slugging, forcing cages will always be better then slugging unless they are doing everything possible to not get tormented
Im waiting for the results but imo slugging is the best strat rn
New WIGLF is going to go hard
Answer: Yes because funiiiiii
I’ve been slugging a lot because of the flashbang bug.
Tunnle isn't even that bad, as long as y9u walk away and come back later, bt doesn't last that long and you hit them again
Pinhead is so much Fun!
Why does his pinhead not speak :(? Is it the skin??
its chatterer not pinhead, chatterer just clicks his teeth to communicate he cant speak
@@fieldagentreaper what if i put a dorito between his teethwhat will he do then
I get comp teams almost every other game 19:29
Me too =_=
are you playing with controller?
@@ghosting3961 mouse and keyboard
@@fieldagentreaper i figured after watching a bit. at first it sounded like a controller stick haha
Reaper after seeing the new deaths linger blight iron sight😊
I wasnt even mad, just said bruh out loud LMAO
@@fieldagentreaper LOL
lets go for part 10 😂😂😂
I LOVE SLUGGING WITH TWINS I LOVE THE 4 SKULLS EZ
best build bruh!
It's a shame that some strategies are unfun for survivors, I wanna play something like this but I always feel too bad for the other side lmao
yeaaaa once I did my 10 games I stopped doing this, its extreamly toxic like one of the few builds that I actually think is toxic in this game and its very unfun for survivors
Maybe try to match their energy if they are sweating slug them if they are chill or you notice that they are solo q babies play normally so they have fun
@white_hound6811 that's the thing though. I have to overly sweat just to match their energy if I go in with bp farm build(haven't ran distressing, beast of prey, thrill of the hunt combo for a year or so). It's funny that I used to get so many hate messages end game when I matched their energy with crappy build than using an annoying build, like Franklin's and unweaving combo. I don't think I've ever gotten a complaint when I used two gen slowdown combo. But God forbid killers to slug or tunnel, even when doors are powered.
Reaper spookyloopz used your complaining on chucky being an unfair killer in his new video 😂
I gave him permission to use that footage, he came into my chat after that match and we had a good chat
@@fieldagentreapernice 👍
Slugma
no mither. can never be slug
Knockout is fine.
It’s better not to respond those people
what is pb?
personal best
Pinhead cool.
Slugging is boring as hell, the only joy to find is getting a reaction out of the survivors which is lame on its own. There are few good reasons to slug, this definitely isn't that lol
I play blight and I slug at 5 gens 🫡
Pinhead by far the best for being just nasty cuz cant forget about that dang mox and with more and more being sluged and the box not done. Im in love but im struggling hard on my controller with him. Ima stick with pp head fre moris. Im done tou know youre just a total bad @ss with the killer when you max out your chain ls not even half way though the match.
do a part 2
Problem with slugging is that at the other side of the screen there is a guy who is wasting 10 minutes of the day doing literally nothing, because you decided to be this way. I get slugging is the optimal thing to do rn but I also think that we as a community and specially as humans we are we should put ourselves on the other side and try to see if we would like to be left out in the ground for 10 minutes or not. I dont think anyone will answer "yeah i would love to be left on the ground until bleed out". I know lot of friends that stoped playing the game because of this and more and more people is doing it, at some point BHRV will implement something to either incentivize the killer to hook or for the surv to be bleed out faster. I just hope that when this happens the game is not in a point of no return for a lot of people
how dare you use game mechanics to your advantage