Nashville: How Many Overtimes Is Too Many?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Join the Door Bumper Clear hosts as they dissect the chaos of the NASCAR race at Nashville, focusing on multiple overtime attempts, controversial penalties, and the heated rivalry between Denny Hamlin and Kyle Larson. The hosts express frustration with the excessive green-white-checkered attempts, suggesting the need for limits. They also highlight the lack of penalties for reckless driving and turning cars under caution, sparking debate on whether teams should enforce smarter racing to avoid incidents. Reaction Theatre captures fans' mixed opinions on the race and drivers. The discussion spans various topics, including rain delays, driver mistakes, and the importance of cool shirts during races. With a preview of upcoming races like Chicago and a commendation for Zane Smith's second-place finish, this episode is packed with fun.
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00:00 - Introduction
12:07 - Spot On Spot Off
12:25 - Excessive Green-White-Checkered Attempts
26:00 The Hamlin-Larson Rivalry
28:22 - Enforcing Smarter Racing
29:46 - Reaction Theatre
33:25 - Fan Opinions
34:49 - Handling Rain Delays and Cautions in NASCAR
37:33 - Ask DBC
37:45 - Consistency in Cautions
39:14 - Driver Mistakes: Even the Best Make Them
44:24 - The Impact of Cool Shirts in Racing
49:41 - What an Idiot
53:50 -Option Tires and Future Race Plans
56:39 - Excitement Anticipated in Upcoming Races
01:02:28 - Zane Smith's Strong Performance - Спорт
You can tell these guys have never had a real job when they start talking about how hard it is to stand in the heat and watch a race.
I have some weld jackets they could wear while they are up there.
@@froggyg9981 yeah, can you imagine if one of them had to work a hot day on a roofing crew, or on a paving job, they definitely wouldn’t make it.
Look at that big ass bag of Nerds Clusters on TJ's desk. A man of taste.
Anything that cuts into Freddie’s drinking time he dislikes
right
They’re all imploding in front of us
I feel sorry for his liver.
I was here when people hated races ending under caution. I guess we've come full circle
If you didn't like the end of that race, you not a true Nascar fan. It kept me on the edge of my seat...
I hate when they do remote podcasts……
they are on vacation still giving us a show to watch , hard to bitch about that imo
@@kizane21actually many other podcast do just fine with it. It’s called sending recording equipment with the podcast host when they travel. There is no excuse for a company this big to be recording on 2002 laptop quality. It’s not acceptable.
yea sucks mainly cause the audio just goes down the shitter
The Dale jr download is almost exclusively zoom meetings now. It’s like the pandemic all over again.
Tjs always remote..he just there sometimes
my take on this is the 5 restart attempts are directly the result of the current points system. drivers aren't rewarded for achiving a "ok" finish by racing smart and making sound decisions. instead we have this all or nothing system where a win puts a bad team into the "playoffs" and wrecking and coming up 35 has no consequence if you have already won , or have no chance of pointing into the "playoffs" . i understand rewarding winning but you can do that by awarding a considerable amount of points for wins , those points should not negate very poor results in 5 races.
It was'Cool' to see TJ on the Broadcast & to hear him on the restarts
Totally spot off Freddie! You’re in the entertainment business, if your sport isn’t “entertaining” as it was with the 5 overtime races, no one watches and you don’t have the millions of dollars to spend on race cars. I agree it might not be the most fair but it’s the current rules and you have to plan for it. Everyone knew it was going more than one green white checker when you had the 5 lining up behind the 11 diving off into turn 1.
Late afternoon thunderstorms are common in the South, let's start the races at 1pm EDT.
DBC with Brett > DBC without Brett
Thanks for the show legends! Great laughs 😂
I almost died at that track the weld holding the steering wheel lug broke and it came off in my hand going into turn 2 of the road course.😂
TJ got a lot of TV time and I think he actually got some chug points for orange gatorade
UNLIMITED OT.
But if you get in a wreck in overtime you get sent to the rear of the field.
Need to have a penalty for monkeying around.
Thank you all for sharing your views today! I'd be ok with one green white, checkered overtime. But that would be it! KB should not have gotten his spot back but I'm still waiting for an explanation from Nascar on that one. Hocevar has an issue with his vision - can't wait to hear his excuse this time! Anyway - hope you all have a great 4th of July!
Sounds like Josh Berry to the 21
Thanks for the show
Doesn't Larson know it's watermelon season
was that a hawk tuah reference on DBC? pod is def going places
So Larson needed to spin out when Hamlin was throwing a tantrum and beating his bumper off undercaution. Apparently it takes spinning out for it to be an issue.
"Stewart Haas guy without money"
You could say the guy's first name is "Josh" and that still technically wouldn't narrow it down any lmao
But I think we all know it's gonna be Berry in the 21
I’m not a Larson fan but I’m a fan of going hard the whole race. He does that
Thanks guys, appreciate ya’ll.
Hey, Mike Davis...when Jr is at his beach place, his audio is terrible. Same with TJ and Freddie.
Not sure if you guys have heard, but people have figured out how to do podcasts, Zoom calls, etc with good audio. It costs about $27.
That's no the guys at jr Motorsports In the studio that handles the audio
@@johnhaas2523 Not sure what you're saying. Mike Davis doesn't handle the audio?
I know. But he's in charge of Dirty Mo Media or whatever the name is.
He would probably have the authority to buy a couple of decent mics to give to Jr, Freddie, TJ, etc so that they could travel with them. Or to delegate that responsibility to someone with less on their plate.
Or Jr, Freddie, and TJ could take some initiative and buy them by themselves.
Not like it happens every weekend and well the fans want a full race ran 🤷🏼♂️
As a fan I was quite happy with the entertainment that all the restarts and added turmoil brought, because not my race cars and not my money.
Bubba must be rubbing off on Freddie always a excuse for a normal mediocre outcome.
TJ rocking the TV time on Sunday!!!
It looked like a early season truck race lol😂
😂
THE 2 CAR HAS DONE THAT IN A COUPLE RACES NOW
if you are involved with a caution you need to get an EOL penalty. End of the line for you
Maybe if you cause the caution
Current weather forecasts is rain 1-6pm in Chicago 😢
Not a good advertisement for NASCAR drivers being ‘the best there is’. Seriously though why are people fighting so hard to make up a coup,e of spots but risk losing 20/30 points due to a crash.
They Drive With Their Right Foot And Not With Their Brains
There’s 4qts in a football game, oh wait, OT
They Should Bring Back The Green White Checkered Limit
Restates are fine. Did you hear the crowd. Finish under green
Freddie, in reference to your first 5 or 6 minutes, you're telling me that end of the race you're going to tell Bubba to back off to potentially improve his position with 2 to go? Sure Gragson and Cindric are idiots BECAUSE they wrecked, but you can't fault them or anyone in the back for running for position! It's the end of the race and that's how racing goes. Unfortunate it took that long to figure out, and your team owner had to pit and then Busch and Chastain had their days ruined, but... that's racing.
On Kyle and Denny, they right now are the best drivers week to week. So they are naturally going to tussle and do their part to make NASCAR look good. We have to remember it’s a show and we have to have talking about the race till the race, even better when we talk about it for weeks
Larson was talking about a fuel pressure warning like tj said not an actual low fuel light.. they see the fuel pressure light and can pretty much say it low of fuel
When a college football game has 5 overtimes it’s an “instant classic” but when NASCAR has 5 overtimes there’s a problem? I don’t get it. It was a great race with an exciting finish and, most importantly, the fans got to see an actual finish and not have an anticlimactic non-finish 🤷♂️
the issue is in other sports mostly we see overtimes because two competitors are evenly matched , here we see overtimes because everyone is incentivized to Greed instead of race with logic for a mid pack finish , like winning is all that matters in the current system, your teams ability to be consistent and run top 10 is worth way less because of the extreme value of a single win. a 25-30th place team shouldn't be getting into the "playoffs" on a single win they are just noncompetitive.
@@tyler7433none of the OTs were caused by mid-pack teams. If anything, those mid-pack teams were the only ones racing clean at the end. 3 OTs were directly/indirectly caused by the sports best driver. If we put a limit on OTs it only incentivizes wrecking someone else (Kevin Harvick) and if we throw it out alltogether we end up losing out on the excitement of a green white checkered. We can take this for what it was and move on, or we can change the sport for the worse.
@@codylyons9729 your proving my point, there is no disincentive for a team that bombs into 1 and ends up 35 if they have win under their belt , heck they can only improve there chances of winning the championship because it might pan out and they get a few boner points. we dont have to change the stupid overtime rules, you have to create a effective disincentive for someone doing stupid stuff in the name of maybe possibly 2% ending up with a win .
Ya we aren't watching overtime between two teams with a tie at the finish line. This is 30+ cars wrecking each other with no chance of a win and changing the race or even ruining it for people who ran a good day at the costs of millions.
What drives me nuts is that this all a knee jerk reaction. Wow this is the first time in years we’ve had 5 and now it’s a problem? Like really changing the rules over a 1 time thing? Now if it happened tons of times and it was way a huge problem maybe but these guys are just crying to cry at this point most of the time it’s 1 or 2 over time attempts maybe 3 at a big track but wow the first time it hits 5 and now it’s a problem??
Why on restarts at end of race only do top 10 cars and every extra restart cut 2-4 cars out then run it! Creates space for air and the ability to race without the back of the pack crashing
I checked out the Paragon site that TJ mentioned and realized these spotters are very wealthy to be able to afford this stuff 😅
I agree with Freddie. Pathetic at the end. Looked like the parking lot at the local bar (Big Al’s)after last call.
With every listen I find myself finding more similarities between TJ and the ultimate bro-dad
Earnhardt, Rusty , Waltrip Ernie Irvan they all use to wreck each other it's no different now to then or in future top cars going to wreck each other. I love NASCAR and all that comes with it.
Can TJ stop smacking his tongue? Does he do that in Brad’s ear😮
Instead of GWC can’t they just with 50 to go stop counting caution laps against the full lap total
Larson didn't just get tight.. he went below the yellow line in the corner and the splitter bottoms out sparks flew and the car unloaded going up the track in to Ross
If the overtime problem happens every week, do something. You can't legislate everything.
Joey's not my driver,but the cautions were what gave him a chance to win, one person leading the whole race,not good ,l like the race not boring
No OT restarts: OR: only top 10 or 20 drivers participate in the restart, or bigger penalties for drivers who cause wrecks during these restarts, including any driver who runs out of gas or backs everyone up trying to run on used-up tires??
NASCAR is a television show, the point of television is to provide entertainment. That ending was pure entertainment, don't care what the traditionalist say.
TJ Majors needs to retrain Freddie on Yellow Flags in NASCAR. The Yellow Flag is for the Show and any Safety incurred is just a wonderful byproduct. The NASCAR Show requires the rerack.( Stages,Green White Checkers , Stages and the Playoffs. All of these things hurt credibility. Welcome to NASCAR. P.S. I agree with Freddie.
Talking about idiots in the rear , they seem to be doing better than your driver that gets in an altercation in a team meeting ! Obvious why you are his spotter !!!
They aren’t doing better though
I was hoping Josh Berry would go to a decent team, hoping he isn't the one going to the 21 even though it sounds like it.
He is and with Jon Wood as president he sounds like wants to improve the team. Josh having lack of money and his age on top of lack of good rides open it's best he will get. I sure Harvick himself has talked to Jon Wood and team Penske since Josh is a KHI management client
Did the caution get thrown before Busch was passed? That arbitrary caution moment and judgement from NASCAR is wrenching these out of control too.
From memory, I don't think so. I think he had already pretty much stopped, thus was probably 15th or so when the caution came out, then he got passed some more.
NASCAR is the most inconsistent organization I've ever seen. And no matter what issue arises, they seem to always address it in the most idiotic way possible...or if they do come up with a good idea, it's 20 years too late.
No it hadn’t
Also to hell with Joey and TJ this is because you drive a Tesla he was not clear. Heard it on the broadcast you called clear and he was not .lol jk love you guys thanks for what you do
I was there at the race
Nice
IT NASCAR SHOW NO COST TO THEM -=
The 5 green white checkers is why nascar is absolute shit now. How many races actually finish under a long green flag run? Not to many. It’s just like the points system and the playoffs. Absolute crap. I used to be a diehard fan. I’d put stuff on hold to watch the races every weekend. Now I miss them all the time, and just catch the last 10 minutes because I know I’ll see a green white checker finish to the end. There’s no reason to watch the entire 4 hour race anymore.
1. Bring back Carla
2. How hungover are yall during this recording?
No shit! Toasted.😂😂😂
I don’t cheer for fords. Especially Penske. I do cheer for Ryan tho and Brad since he joined his own team
That’s fair.
Wish i could work from home
I like all out.
Bring back last weeks host. Much better conversation flow and way less dramatic.....
They don’t have to watch
I think Carson should be suspended for the rest of the season to teach him a lesson to knock his crap off plus he is repeated offender and to only give a 50,000 fine is a joke . NASCAR is going soft
Put a thumbs up every time tj smacks his lips.....
Guys that never win like bubba and others need to be relegated to a lower league. It would save them the embarrassment of never succeeding at their jobs.
Like Corey Lajoie. He's never won in any NASCAR series. How and why is he in a Cup car?
@@CVTaxi yeah he needs to stick to podcasting, driving for a living ain’t gonna work out.
Bubba has won though
@@davidreece5867 yeah, but once was only because it rained.
@@Commentleaver-c6x There is drivers who have won more and within a shorter time period too that don’t get as much recognition.
30:25 exactly boomer joe still watched the race🤷♂️
Where is Carla? We WANT Carla
Can we get alex bowman on the show
Casey's eyebrows are on point !!
Best collective reaction theatre of all time
Remote sucks. Dale Jr. remote too. Public does not live in Zoom world.
Did Covid come back
Who cares if millions got wrecked. That is the owners problem and I will bet there is not an owner one that will tell their drivers to back off and just go in circles.
glad Casey is back.
The way to fix it is single file restarts with 10 to go like it was in 2007
If they start ending races under Yellow nascar will die quick fast an in a hurry
That's the way they use to do it and everyone bitched and that's why it's like it is now
I’m going to pay money and spend time to watch a yellow finish, shut up
I thought the end of the race was fun/exciting/unpredictable/entertaining
TJ did look sexy!!!!!
Sooooo glad Casey's back, not a fan of the remote shows, especially when they cut to Freddy who's sitting too close to the camera, unacceptable for Bret to miss these shows, his opinion is needed every week, somebody get these guy's and girl better camera equipment for the future if we are doing remote broadcasting, it's 2024, good gear isn't that expensive, we don't need Freddy, TJ and Bret in 4K but the clarity needs to improve, good show, Did I say I'm glad Casey's back!
I thought it was set up to be 1 or 2 trys at overtime
It was set at 3 attempts few years ago
I want to preference this with i don't know anything so this might be dumb. I would like to see the new overtime be you park everyone 7 place back then you green white checker the top 6 and they have one restart to see who wins it. Not sure if the logistics of putting cars on pit road and running a green white checker is safe or if they have time to run them behind the wall. Just throwing something out there because this ending wasnt great. Seeing people lose because of strategy is great, seeing them lose because you moved the goal post is not.
Stop being they/thems about spotting. Unlimited restarts.
Gotta bring carla back. Things ran so much smoother and didn't seem fake.
Spot Off….Recording on a 97 dollar Walmart laptop and thinking that’s ok to send out to masses.
Especially when your boss is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Spend 1000 dollars and get your host portable microphone to record a decent product.
They sell laptops for 97 dollars?! Maybe I should get one!
Casey looks beautiful , she’s a champ
I seen the highlights thumbnail with Lagano and on the first GWC he was like 17th lol i thought theres no way he wins but damn he did
🥲🥲🥲
13:21 dear freddy race should always under green he only saying that because bubba would have finhed 4th or 5th get real also was a photo finsh
The answers always been one. One overtime is too many! Green white Crash! All that ever accomplishes is wrecked race cars!
if poepl watch the replay of the 77 and 21 you can clearly see that the 21 literally brake checked the 77 and a few other cars an car behind that 21 was gonna spin that 21 out
When you guys ain't happy it was an entertaining race.also bubba had a uncontrolled tire that wasn't called . overall point being if this was dega or Daytona nobody bats an eye.Get rid of overtime??? sure let's do that in all sports and suck the fun out of that to.in fact let's be like the Europeans more !! let's just run NASCAR races like F1 races no hitting can't touch anybody it's essentially just a time trial. Nascar needs this every so often
No he didn’t have an uncontrolled tire.
can we STOP calling these the best drivers in the world. they most def are not. when you take a driver because of his sponsors, you completely nullify that claim. STOP LIEING TO THE PEOPLE, THEY ARNT THE BEST IN THE WORLD, sadly... some of them arnt even any good.....
I blame Kevin Harvick for all of this. Ever since he wrecked the field at Talladega while his car was blowing up so that the race would end at the last GWC so he would get a good finish to continue in the chase. After that incident, NASCAR went to unlimited GWCs.
Hell no never limit the restarts u can never go back to races ending under Yellow teach the drivers to drive better it's been unlimited restart for a while an this record just happen it usally never gos that far