I started working on the Multics project in 1967 - a joint project with MIT, GE, and Bell Labs. Doug McIlroy and Joe Ossana, others were part of the Bell Labs contingent. When Bell Labs dropped out of the project - several years later - the Bell Labs team started creating Unix - sometimes amusingly called castrated Multics. (When I was an MIT freshman in 1956-57 Doug McIlroy was my math instructor.)
Thank you. :) Thanks to you, we have things like OpenBSD, Linux, and Solaris, and of course, macOS. :D You are a legend among legends, AND, to top it off, you even have a cool beard! :) Again, thank you... :) **Bow**
This video was great. There is another video of Unix 50 w/ Doug McIllroy which is a great watch. Thank you for your work on Unix - a lot of brilliant minds with brilliant ideas and contributions.
My Dad worked at Murray Hill. Walter Brown was his director. Walter sponsored a Boy Scout Explorer Post that met at 7:30PM every Monday night. Many local high school students like my friends and I got to play with Unix and C programming. A guy named Marty Shannon was our “Den Mother”. About that time Hal Alles built his digital synthesizer. I was lucky to have been there.
That demo of the overlapping windows with bouncing ball animation is still very cool today considering the limited processing and the amount of work needed to get it to work. I can only imagine the number of jaws dropped at that time.
It really was a seminal moment; he's not overstating the reception in saying it was rapturous. As he says, "It's hard to express how cool that was, but I can remember." There hasn't been such a moment, for me, since, but there might be another such moment when (if I'm still alive) AR hardware becomes transparent enough to evolve us away from having physical screens and keyboards.
I got a Commodore 64 when I was 15 back in the 80's and got hooked on computers ever since. Indeed my life revolves around them and its my livelihood. Bless those guys back then who started it all.
This was a delightful talk and brought to light some of the programming practices that we still indulge in for archaic reasons. On a side note, f someone is curiously distracted by the thumbnails at the bottom as me, they are DPs of folks in the hangout call. As you can tell, 2nd one is the video.
Toronto's contribution to Unix isn't as well known as it should be. (Brian Kernighan started there, Henry Spencer developed regexes there, Hugh Redelmeier and David Tillbrook were all there too.)
Henry was something, alright. It's said that he alone had the archivist foresight to store early Usenet traffic that reach utzoo... "Dept of Zoology"... not the most obvious sponsor of CS development that one might consider!
49:00. Mouse from Switzerland. From EPFL spinoff. I just got idea, are they connected to Logitech? And sure enough, Logitech first product was P4 by Dubois Dépraz SA. In 1981. Fascinating story. I didn't know what he did before Plan 9, so it was really cool to hear. Thanks Rob.
Correction, at 26:18, not a 11/45, and DECtapes were cool. They could read and write with tape moving in either direction. It had a buffer chip in it that could be emptied or filled to give first in first out, first in last out, etc. And it was fast. Reels were direct drive no capstan.
I’m not sure exactly what you’re thinking of, but for one thing, people would need somewhere to sit while waiting to submit their card decks or get back their printouts.
Great talk, but have to disagree with Rob's comment that 'RT-11 was a terrible operating system ...', it was a real time OS and for for what it was designed to do was a very capable OS, and ran equipment in universities, hospitals and industries for decades, well past it what might have been it's expected 'Use By' date.
DEC's OSes confused me. Partly because they were clearly less useful than UNIX. If I remember correctly, there was RT-11, maybe DOS-11, RSX-11, RSTS-11. I wrote one program that ran under RT-11 on the GT-44 that Rob used.
I have a question: why the CRT of the Blit prototype was grey scale, when the final one was green scale? Anyway, the Blit board prototype in a cardboard box looks cool.
Yep, they were Unix's manual. Thick volumes that actually named the OS. Early Unix is not version 5, 6, or 7 internally.. Instead, it's 5th, 6th, and 7th Edition Unix. So I suspect that actually started version numbering as we know it.
The woman in the back wasn't "obligatory sexist".. many programmers and operators of that era were actually female.. heck my own mother and most of her friends were mainframe programmers.. otherwise it's still an interesting piece... thanks for sharing!
I don't know EDT. A lot of DEC's editors weree based on TECO-like ideas, terrible for a line editor. On the other hand, VI is based on ed, a line editor, which is a terrible base for a screen editor.
Rob Pike wrote a massive portion of Unix and massive chunk of the Unix/BSD core utils that were cloned by GNU and POSIX. He wrote this stuff in the 80s and you use his code every day.
I started working on the Multics project in 1967 - a joint project with MIT, GE, and Bell Labs. Doug McIlroy and Joe Ossana, others were part of the Bell Labs contingent. When Bell Labs dropped out of the project - several years later - the Bell Labs team started creating Unix - sometimes amusingly called castrated Multics. (When I was an MIT freshman in 1956-57 Doug McIlroy was my math instructor.)
Wow, I can’t image how much you’ve seen over your lifetime
Thank you. :) Thanks to you, we have things like OpenBSD, Linux, and Solaris, and of course, macOS. :D You are a legend among legends, AND, to top it off, you even have a cool beard! :) Again, thank you... :) **Bow**
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Instablaster.
This video was great.
There is another video of Unix 50 w/ Doug McIllroy which is a great watch.
Thank you for your work on Unix - a lot of brilliant minds with brilliant ideas and contributions.
My Dad worked at Murray Hill. Walter Brown was his director. Walter sponsored a Boy Scout Explorer Post that met at 7:30PM every Monday night. Many local high school students like my friends and I got to play with Unix and C programming. A guy named Marty Shannon was our “Den Mother”. About that time Hal Alles built his digital synthesizer. I was lucky to have been there.
That demo of the overlapping windows with bouncing ball animation is still very cool today considering the limited processing and the amount of work needed to get it to work. I can only imagine the number of jaws dropped at that time.
It really was a seminal moment; he's not overstating the reception in saying it was rapturous. As he says, "It's hard to express how cool that was, but I can remember." There hasn't been such a moment, for me, since, but there might be another such moment when (if I'm still alive) AR hardware becomes transparent enough to evolve us away from having physical screens and keyboards.
I got a Commodore 64 when I was 15 back in the 80's and got hooked on computers ever since. Indeed my life revolves around them and its my livelihood. Bless those guys back then who started it all.
Did I write this?
Awesome video, makes me feel old though!!
This was a delightful talk and brought to light some of the programming practices that we still indulge in for archaic reasons.
On a side note, f someone is curiously distracted by the thumbnails at the bottom as me, they are DPs of folks in the hangout call. As you can tell, 2nd one is the video.
I love AT&T Assembler, When I was doing the Pre-Apprintence Craft Course I had access to a Digital cooperation PDP11 at Trostin Avenue Tech Ballymena.
RK05s made a beautiful tinkling noise when seeking.
Toronto's contribution to Unix isn't as well known as it should be. (Brian Kernighan started there, Henry Spencer developed regexes there, Hugh Redelmeier and David Tillbrook were all there too.)
We also had a club called Unix Unanimous where the "gospel" was spread to other interested geeks like myself. Good times.
It's still around; meeting tonight at Ry High (Ryerson U)
@@parrotraiser6541 only problem is that I moved to YUL
I wish to know more. Was there a *TSD* system like BSD?
Henry was something, alright. It's said that he alone had the archivist foresight to store early Usenet traffic that reach utzoo... "Dept of Zoology"... not the most obvious sponsor of CS development that one might consider!
Excellent presentation - thx!
49:00. Mouse from Switzerland. From EPFL spinoff. I just got idea, are they connected to Logitech? And sure enough, Logitech first product was P4 by Dubois Dépraz SA. In 1981.
Fascinating story. I didn't know what he did before Plan 9, so it was really cool to hear. Thanks Rob.
souris
This is the Blit demo video to which he refers around the 45min mark: ua-cam.com/video/emh22gT5e9k/v-deo.html
Thanks. I was looking for it.
That was really enjoyable!!
What a legendary age.
So Plan 9 history next time?
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47:37 because of this i used to call my mouse "souris" - that's what the label on the mouse called it.
Correction, at 26:18, not a 11/45, and DECtapes were cool. They could read and write with tape moving in either direction. It had a buffer chip in it that could be emptied or filled to give first in first out, first in last out, etc. And it was fast. Reels were direct drive no capstan.
We had silver stickers to cover mistakes on punch cards. Sometimes they fell off
Why was there seating space made around old mainframe computers?
I’m not sure exactly what you’re thinking of, but for one thing, people would need somewhere to sit while waiting to submit their card decks or get back their printouts.
It's good to see the IBM computers there :)
I could not find the picture of the Balu chip dye anywhere.
Great talk, but have to disagree with Rob's comment that 'RT-11 was a terrible operating system ...', it was a real time OS and for for what it was designed to do was a very capable OS, and ran equipment in universities, hospitals and industries for decades, well past it what might have been it's expected 'Use By' date.
DEC's OSes confused me. Partly because they were clearly less useful than UNIX. If I remember correctly, there was RT-11, maybe DOS-11, RSX-11, RSTS-11. I wrote one program that ran under RT-11 on the GT-44 that Rob used.
the original o/s for the apple macintosh had a very similar structure to rtos with a nice event loop added etc
i would absolutely love a talk siilar to this but about plan9
I don't know what to say after watching this.
I have a question: why the CRT of the Blit prototype was grey scale, when the final one was green scale? Anyway, the Blit board prototype in a cardboard box looks cool.
Awesome
51:44 for Crabs
16:34 - Wait, so man pages used to be physical?
Yep, they were Unix's manual. Thick volumes that actually named the OS. Early Unix is not version 5, 6, or 7 internally.. Instead, it's 5th, 6th, and 7th Edition Unix. So I suspect that actually started version numbering as we know it.
I'm long retired but I still got a bunch of those AT&T unix manuals at home. Release 5, System V - collector's items LOL.
Audio starts at ua-cam.com/video/_2NI6t2r_Hs/v-deo.html
3:43 Starts
Really curious about the 4 dislikes
1 is bill gates ?
Why did Rob graduate as a Gumby (20:36)?
He was a very big Monty Python fan then. I don't know about now.
When does the history of UNIX start? This is more a rambling life's history. Change the title.
The woman in the back wasn't "obligatory sexist".. many programmers and operators of that era were actually female.. heck my own mother and most of her friends were mainframe programmers.. otherwise it's still an interesting piece... thanks for sharing!
That was surely a model.
@@d.hughredelmeier1960 may be but it wasnt obligatory sexist by her being there 🤗
Yeah, that part really made me wonder if there's something wrong with the guy lol. Seems like he is part of the "the entire world is sexist" faction.
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"what?"
EPFL Wohoo!
8:08? what in the earth is sexist about in this picture? are you nuts?
Can some one create translation for this video?
@Asindu D. Willfed russian
@Asindu D. Willfed fortran
Turn on Closed Captions , go to settings, Subtitles/CC, Auto Translation >> Russian
Oh come on! I used EDT on RSTS/E on a PDP-11/73 and it kicked vi's ass... let alone ed.
I don't know EDT. A lot of DEC's editors weree based on TECO-like ideas, terrible for a line editor. On the other hand, VI is based on ed, a line editor, which is a terrible base for a screen editor.
no GEBACA? (Get BAck At Corporate America). Bummer.
8:08 - sexist ? People are ridiculous
Sweet Jesus I hate that laughing when he's not saying anything funny! Corporation jerks!
What is up beta boys
Sexist image? Goodbye.
Rob Pike wrote a massive portion of Unix and massive chunk of the Unix/BSD core utils that were cloned by GNU and POSIX. He wrote this stuff in the 80s and you use his code every day.