I have recently come back from Manipur. I was working there. They are the best people so far I have ever met. They are ethical, decent, and fit people. Especially, the tribals living in the hills like kukis and nagas.
My father is also serving in Assam rifles and currently deploy in Manipur Indian-mayanmar border. Seriously life is so tough in there. Not proper shelter and food patrolling in jungles from 15-20 km a day.. God bless all jawans nd their families who are their stand strong against all odds for us. It's a request guys shower ur love for them whenever you saw any army personnel with a salute it' make all their pain away.. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
@@prateekrawat4913 i know what you're trying to convey. Bring development and everything will change. And who is denying the development? Indian govt. And under what ministry is Assam Rifles , the Home Ministry.The NDA govt.And who are facing the hardships the soldiers . Simply as that.
@@smiphel20lag72 But when they're opposing and boycott govt law how could it be possible for development in those regions? They've their rebels group and maoist who ambush on army also they manipulate people towards govt so that bridge btw govt and peoples couldn't be made and they make their own law's so that Chaos be there nd peace shouldn't.
Actually the main reason for insurgency in Manipur are as follows 1) India Completely ignored the state for many years after joining the Indian union in 1949. 2) Imagine getting downgraded from an ancient independent kingdom to a part-C state, administered by a commissioner. It got full statehood only in 1972. 3) RACISM faced by the people in mainland India. 4) Lack of development funds and connectivity, and some cases of human rights abuse by the security personnels. But the situation has completely changed now, the insurgency problem is slowly disappearing.
@@DB-rl1ih There are things that can be blamed to the local politicians and things that the local politicians are powerless against. Local politicians can't do anything in regard to the central government treating the Northeast region as a buffer zone in the past. It was only after the Indo-China war of 1962 that the central government started taking the Northeast region seriously and only after the 90s or 2000s that the central government started paying attention to infrastructure development.
@@deepjyoti5640 But he has a point. Manipur does not reflect the core issues each State has. I am interested what you have to say about my people's history. Have you read it in a book or experienced it ? You don't need to just say, "you better study history" and just disregard his point. Instead share your ideas and opinions based on facts and help educate each other, because that is the main issue we are facing now. Ignorance.
@@deepjyoti5640 Also, History. Our true heritage and history is not in any educational books. I learned about my people's history through my grandparents experience, my parents experience, my experience. Which board in the country have a single chapter of our history? During my highschool, not even my own state board had a chapter of our history because it can't compete with the rest of the country. Won't you call that discrimination over a whole group and heritage of people ? But that's besides my point. My point is, if he were to study "history" as you suggested, which book does he need to pick up ? What are the major subjects which he needs to take up which focuses on the NE history and struggles for him to be educated ? NE is a collection of 8 States, united and share alot of rich culture and loved and protected as sisters. But have their own individual heritage and history and beliefs. Ignoring that and clumping the 8 States as NE and only focusing on one State in this case, Manipur brings more questions than answers. To my understanding the original commenter meant to say was, if you want to talk about Manipur, talk about Manipur. But if you bring the whole of NE together, talk about all the whole of NE and not generalise an issue to be the same for each State. The same goes with belief and ideology. An Example, Mizoram was the first state in the World to be bombed by it's own country. Yes, NE but not the same history as Manipur or Nagaland or Assam, etc.
This is because Manipur was a sovereign Kingdom before India's independence and during the formation of the country, Manipur was initially not involved and was to remain as sovereign Kingdom. But was forced to join so that's why there are many rebellions because even after joining , we were not recognised enough and were treated horribly . There are many opinions about the kabaw valley (in modern day Myanmar) which belonged to Manipur and was exchanged by Jawaharlal Nehru for Andaman and Nicobar as it is historically more connected to India and will serve as better use . I don't know if this is true but this is what our elders has told us since we were young also ,this story has not been discussed or confirmed . Considering the current situation of 2023 , there are going to be more insurgents rising . Honestly, i don't want to support any of the insurgency or forcing a king to sign the merger agreement . Lastly, i think that I am happy in which country i belong to and proud to be Indian . Don't stereotype that all northeast Indians want to seperate away from India , that people are probably extremists and most of us are happy that we get to be an Indian. (Comment for educational purpose only )
As a northeastern the ethics that i (we) live n die for remains. Sets us apart. Hope NE continues to inculcate this legacy of respect towards women children n family , n pass on the next generation of northeasterns .
My humble request to all my brothers and sisters from north east please do not consider yourself different from India.we are united and remain united.We all are proud Indians.
You're wrong. What I've seen and heard recently on internet is that North East people are way more patriotic than any us folks in other parts of India.
1. Title should have been "Soldier's experience in Manipur". I think the period he is talking about here is late 90s and early 2000s and he was probably posted in valley region of Manipur(Because he mentioned Thabal Chongba, the dance). Also, experiences in valley and hilly areas might be completely different. 2. I think when he came to Manipur in this period, there had been recently the ban of Hindi movies in theaters. Before this, there were Hindi movies shown in theaters. (I heard stories of elder people talking about blockbusters like Sholay in Manipuri theaters) In my opinion, the ban was a good thing for Manipuri cinema because people started watching them instead of Hindi pictures which was dominating the cinemas. 3. He did not explain the REASON of insurgency in Manipur here. He was telling his experience. And about people feeling sense of "power" with guns on their hands, the issue or reason of this conflict is not that simple. Many insurgents joined these groups because of trauma of near ones died in this conflict or they were being tortured by the military. 4. More interesting questions should have been asked in this podcast. There was no need to sensationalize the story here. Col. Rajeev's life story is interesting and inspiring by itself.
Even In the 90s , maximum indians don't even know NE india exist ( not to blame all ,because there were few who we're really good ) . We are talking about about educated Indians , forget about the rural Indian . When the militants were imposing banns here in NE , we were still hoisting India's flag and singing national anthem in our school during 15Aug and 26 Jan.. So tell everyone don't bullsh*t us about Nationalism .. You cannot blame and buly and harrased the entire population just because few 100 numbers of militants caused you trouble. The Indian army has caused tremendous harm and hatred and atrocities to the innocent civilian of NE using AFSPA which has caused the people to hate them and other Non-resident of NE specially the business class people who looted the innocent NE people through their business monopolistic character .
@@RaliangbAs a North Indian, i agree and I feel really sorry about this. What you're telling is correct and not doubt human rights violations must be there. But situation is changing now. People are more aware about NE.
the feeling of differences become worsen after the india-sino war.. where late PM Nehru request the fellow NE indian on radio to join and fight on the war and when india surrender the PM let us no info.. and we keep fighting the chinese.. and we feel betrayed.. thats whats my grandfather and his friends say.. they even fought the japanese war... before that..
The root cause I believe stems from the 'wrongful' annexation of Manipur into India. There are tons of articles on how Maharaja Bodhachandra was forced to sign the Instrument of Accession under pressure. I believe armed insurgency began in the late 60s Or early 70s when step motherly treatment was given to Manipur by New Delhi. In the early days their insurgency was supported by the masses because it was about freedom and self determination and it resonated with the people. These days the majority of people don't support these groups as today they have strayed from their path and started doing extortion, terrorism, kidnapping, gun and drug smuggling. I honestly think the Indian Army can flush these insurgents out but they won't cause they have a lot to benefit if insurgency flourish in Manipur.
If a Manipuri explains even peacefully s/he will be forced arrested under some stupid charges. History on mainland is wrong, Manipur was annexed by forced but voluntary then Nehru gifted a large valley - Kabaw valley to Myanmar without asking Manipur and India hasn’t explain a bit about this.
@@thembasapam7838 Dear Themba, I have tried to put forward my perspective in a reply above. There are wrongs being committed in the past and present. We need to find solutions. I know it is difficult but not impossible.
Ranveer just a small request please do change the title of the video to "why manipur people didn't consider themselves as Indians" . The present title 'don't consider' is a bit misleading and might have negative(obviously unwanted) impact on anyone who just sees the thumbnail and not the whole video!!
I don't think it is done intentionally. But in case done for clickbait or something, please change this ASAP. And personally I don't think much changes after replacing 'don't' with 'didn't' as far as viewersips and clicks due to title and thumbnail is concerned. Pls change the title
As a Meetei, I feel the comment about our animosity towards India because of a lack of awareness is caused by a lack of awareness about us as a whole. A lot of us don't give a shit about whether we are part of India or not. We just care about our state and people. When you consider the atrocities committed by the Indian army not only towards us, but the North-East as a whole, you can see why a lot of people would be angry. The forced implementations of Hindi also doesn't help. It was mandatory for upto the 8th standard, but now it's upto the 10th. Until and unless the govt accepts the fact that people don't want their language or culture to go away, insurgence will still be a thing.
Being part of Indian armed forced, Colonel is not in position to reveal real reason of insurgency in Manipur. I can understand that easily. Not knowing Hindi is not strange thing in India. Tamils dont know Hindi, is this strange? If Govt of India play with sentiments of local and keep avoiding and ignoring them, definitely differences will start pop out between govt and locals. Once independent kingdom, later joined to India as "ignored state", obviously locals feel insecure and get feeling of ignorance.And on top of that if govt uses forces to silent the voices and few security personnel uses ASFPA to rape women and kill innocent, it will be like pouring petrol on fire.
This is a two way affair of ignorance and negligence .There is lack of belongings among some sections of North East Indian People due to lack of close interactions and negligence along with remoteness of distance ,differences of cultures. Adding to that the attitudes of Mainland Indians towards fellow NE Indians is regrettable and shameful. They refuse to consider them as Indians because of looks,cultures etc and humiliation is common occurrence. Let alone among public even Government Officials are shockingly ignorant of their existence. Hope one single incident will suffice, at New Delhi International Airport a Manipuri Woman delegate was told by Officials that she don't look like Indian by looking at her Indian Passport.
Atrocities by few of these Armies has done in NE States is horrendous. These states were forcefully included but again you cant disrespect them and abuse them as you wish
Manipur, nagaland were separate indipendent countries, captured by British and then in 1947 areas landed into Indian lap. They were never Indians. India just wants to hold on to these territories by all means.
After independence all stated accept to be in India that's why they're in India. Pakistan and Bangladesh also captured by Britishers as India but they're different countries now so nothing is landed into indian lap. There's agreement for every state and yes for long time some areas were ignored and not developed and we have to change ourselves only coz of their looks we called them Chinese Nepali and all without knowing origin.
Nagaland was never an independent country but manipur was once a princely state and independent kingdom, still manipur has prince but no authority to control the state.
@@simpleguy38 Nagaland was actually more independent than Manipur ever was because Manipur was controlled by Burma at various points of history and came under British suzerainty quite early in 1826 itself.
Even as a NE , We are currently living with them and have public support,,,, One leader of Insurgency was killed by the Police and People started to Protest ,,,
THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO CLAIM TO HAVE LIVED IN MANIPUR AND SPREADING HATRED HERE. If you want RESPECT, respect others first, as simple as that. Most non-native people who come and settle here NEVER interact, participate, show interest and respect the culture, lifestyle and all And yet they're gere commenting THIS and THAT. Take it from the words of a real Manipuri. Don't believe me?? Come and see for yourself. For the rest, INSURGENCY is all history now, we didn't even experience it during our childhood so RELAX. Moreover, some people here asking what's the reason and why for insurgency, you gotta dig a bit Deeper to the history of this state. If you're someone who's Never or hardly heard the name of Manipur other than Mary Kom, then you're not FIT to comment. I've been almost everywhere in India and surprisingly, 85% of the population fail in General knowledge. You'll be surprised to know how many population of our country have no knowledge of all the states and yet, will call themselves ANYTHING 😂. Anyway, good video, it's time to MOVE On. The center should stop NEGLECTING THE NORTH EAST. We don't even have Railway connection even after how long the first train was brought in India, so imagine yourself how the government has been treating us. Peace out. Goodbye 👋
Just within a minute of watching, I can already find mistakes and biases in his words. Manipur then and now are very different. It would not be correct to bring up the past to weigh the present situation. Manipur is a state where there are more than 20% people from outside the state. Biharis, punjabis, haryanvis, marwaris, bengalis, tamils, you name it.. You can find them there. Now who would ask you "are you indian?" I'm sorry but you are either trying to add masala to your story or just a confident blatant liar. Again, no hindi books? Man.. Hindi is compulsory till 8th std and there are thousands who still opt hindi after that. There are many books and hindi movies sold in the markets. Hindi channels were the only ones shown during those days DD1 or DD2.. Now tell me, why does he have to start with such a wrong premise? One can only imagine.
First step would be for Main landers ( Northerners, for lack of a better term) ) to consider Manipuris as Indians too. Numerous instances where easterners treated as foreigners or called Chinese.
During 1950's to 90's Indian armies killed many tribals and raped many tribal women misusing ASPA by the armies and all this happened in the eyes of central government. That is the one of the strong reason for insurgency in NE and Indian government forcefully merging NE states with indian union by using Armies and family force
RANVEER PLEASE NEVER DO SUCH KIND OF MISTAKES. INDIA FIRST. DIE FOR INDIA'S INTEGRITY. WORK FOR INDIA'S INTEGRITY. INDIA IS A IDEOLOGY, A EMOTION WHICH TEACHES THAT WORLD IS A FAMILY(VASUDEV KUTMUMBAKAM). DON'T DO SUCH SILLY THINGS FOR CLICKBAIT. SHAMEFUL ACT.
Makes so much sense now, i had some Manipuri friend's during my school days. It was so weird to me when they really didn't know anything related to Hindi movies, songs or the language. Now i know why. It wasn't only the Manipuri friends, but also Mizo and so many more. But times have changed now. It is not like how it was back in the day.
@@worldfootball8496 I know especially after cheap internet and majority people know and love northeast especially of young age. Many of North East people live in Delhi and I always have great experience with them.
truth is bitter!!! We were force To sign treaty with India. That's how we are part of India. We had our own kingdoms and kings and freedom fighters Fought for freedom from The British Colonial. HOWEVER None of them are remembered in any of Indian History. The Truth is better.. we are the most socialize groups. Saď this officer was not educated on that, unlike, the other Officer Earlier you interviewed before.
@@fede7627naga is an ethnicity just like I am Bengali and india is union bof all ethnicity that's it . There were no word name naga because it was given by the British , it didn't exist
Sahi kaha aapne....north east ko wo haq milna chahiye jiske wo hakdaar hai ....Hamare desh ke har hisse par unka utna hi haq hai,jitna hamara ....aap ka vikas hai naye Bharat ka vikas hai
Oversimplification at the best. I don’t blame him. He had a job and he did it. Lack of honesty and political will at the start of independent India led to this. Even now, one will say it has improved a lot but this is just on the surface and it can turn dark very quickly. It’s not all about taking up a gun and start fighting. I am saying this as a Manipuri. BTW, Col. sahab, if you ever visit again, come and join - thabal chongba again. 😊
@@anushka-gu3nf why would I support it? But there are things India needs to address which it did during the annexation. I don’t support any arm way of solving problems.
@@thembasapam7838 no offense man but could you explain it from your local perspective why were you guys alienated from us, what has changed, what needs to happen, etc. They don't even teach correct history as I am sure you are well aware. There are lot of distortion so I am not sure what to believe. Even our history books which we read in our schools are distorted and a**holes are glorified for example the Mughals, etc. Could you give me a starting point?
Don't misguide people by saying 'North east ' ,north east is composed of 7 states and manipur is one of them. So if you're talking about manipur then kindly mention 'manipur ' only. Don't drag other 6 states. I'm from Assam. And I'm proud to be an indian ❤
So proud of you ..when so many Indians dnt even know about Manipur you actually talked about it... I am from manipur and everything said here is true.. despite I could see some comments justifying with some absurd logic , I can tell you everything said by sir here is true They have a term or slang for people who dnt look like them in feature and that is Mayang which means outsiders which explains it all.. even a smal kid there is brain washed to be a racist,,,just go and point to a person who looks different to him ask the kid who is he,,, he will call him him Mayang
@smiphel and I was born in Manipur with my great grandfather also born in Manipur ... I am not spreading hate I am putting light to an issue why is it wrong ..racism and intolerance to the people who do not look alike is seen in most part of the country if you can condemn it or voice against it ...WHY CAN'T I ?????? It's evident and true if you want proof go check the internet and get your facts right
@@smiphel20lag72 although in the last 4/5 yrs you might have seen some changes but in the year 2013 outsiders were targeted ...poor labourers were killed by simply bombing them ,, extortion money were demanded from even today businessman in Manipur are made to pay Ransome money bcoz they dnt look like the indigenous there
We don't even have a chapters on a ahom empire and how can we expect not insurgency, we don't have a separate chapter on North East tribals and ethnicity
Im from meghalaya and here we have 101 Area HQ, Assam Regiment HQ, GTC, BSF northeast HQ and Assam Rifles. My only request to these forces is to be humble and respect us since ive seen sometimes they go rougue on innicent civilians which causes hatred towards theses forces. If these forces show respect towards our culture, traditions and be humble with us, maybe they can earned our respect since we in meghalaya our hospitable to anyone who enter our state whether from north, west or south india.
The truth is never one sided. Unfortunately he didn't speak the truth here, truth by which I mean the absolute truth. Any kind of insurgency is a result of exploitation of the unaware that is true, but there has to be a certain % of lacking that these people have felt or still feel maybe that made them not associate themselves with India. Might be because of the Govt, who knows but just solely being unaware doesn't result in insurgency of this level. We should acknowledge that as well.
I will tell you the "lacking" here- not knowing about their history and indic identity. Slow but systematic removal from their cultural identity by various powers. It can be maoism, call it british overlords. Whatever. But the rest of the India is way past this notion that "they were the oppressed and neglected hence they picked up the weapons". This statement doesnt fly anymore in rest of the parts of India. Sorry if that makes you feel hurt.
@@UKpowerunleashed My opinion was based upon me not knowing only. My opinion came from the point of view that everything is grey and nothing is black and white. So when, the colonel mentioned that it is just due to exploitation of the unaware, I made the the point that it is can't be the only truth. Like you mentioned, "Slow but systematic removal from their cultural identity by various powers. It can be maoism, call it british overlords." There can be other reason as well which we are unaware of. And yes the notion of neglected so picked up weapons doesn't fly anymore is something that might not be justified but again, it might be a truth that we ain't aware of.
@@UKpowerunleashed that's nonsense. Manipur Kingdom has been there for thousands of years, never under India until the British arrived, made them a protectorate state then a Princely state in 1891. There is nothing like Indic history there except their forced conversion to Hinduism in 1700s and the destruction of their native Meitei script which was replaced with Bengali script. Don't sanskritise our history, we'll fight against it. Your attempts to sanskritise Arunachal is already failing, fabricated stories of "Rukmini is from Arunachal", attempts to Hinduise Rangfraa is fooling nobody anymore.
I think its vice versa people from all around india treat us people from northeast like shit and are racist until we get gold medals for our country and then they suddenly start making biopics and stuff . i have stayed in delhi for almost 10 years and still get taunts like chinki nepali and stuff even if that illegal. its obvious people from northeast would be distant from people like them.
Lmao , even I have faced racism not because that I m from northeast (well I m Maharashtrian) because I have dark skin tone (kallu) and short height(batla) 😅 so stop being selective
Please interview people from the northeast. A two sided story is crucial to understand the base of anything, especially if you want to know what is happening in the NE.
Brother There is a history relation between how Hinduism was spread across Manipur( there is a whole story/topic about it) , from then the fight between the indigenous manipuri people called as meetei and bishnupriyas (hindus) came into existence
From what I've heard Bishnupriya are indigenous people and Meitei are Burmese immigrants who first sought refuge and slowly started to annex the region . The King of cachar was assassinated by Meitei immigrants
@@therapeuticsoundsofnature2006 I'm sorry to tell you but i think what you've heard is from wikipedia and it is very likely that the information is wrong.
@@therapeuticsoundsofnature2006 The theory that Meiteis are Burmese who Invaded Manipur is created by British which Bisnupuriyas still believe in. Meiteis fought the Burmese from time to time. Meiteis have protected every community and now they are being portrayed as an Invaders. What a Hipocricy. Watch Abhijit Chavda say about this
One thing i noticed... in arunachal even if you are foreigner no one gonna harm you even in midnight male or female..until and unless you dont hurt their egoes.
Respect for the officer , I am a Meitei . What sir had explained are the moments he had experienced not the reasons. Lemme try to just brief some reason( there are many though!) 1)Manipur was an Independent kingdom and the area was much larger. It extended to some part of Myanmar know as 'Kabaw Valley' and to west it was upto sylhet in Bangladesh . Cachar Assam in sometime was also under Manipur. After India annexed it shrink to the smallest possible area. Kabaw Valley was gifted to Myanmar by India. 2) Our king was forced to sign merger agreement in Shillong Meghalaya. And after that from a kingdom , it was given part - c status which we feel is a disrespect, until 1972 when Mp got statehood. 3) About ban on Hindi movie ,just like mainland Indian want to promote their Hindi movie ,south indian their South Movie ,We also want to grow our Manipuri Film and Drama industry which indeed had happen and many eminent artist of our had received national awards. 4)The negligence by Central govt. in undeniable though!Modi has been doing great, he can visit other countries, feel the pain of other country but not its own state. 5) There are deep proxy war waged against us ... incidents of Indian army war crime against civilians.. Many more
The Things is So many people don't know the real truth about northeast insurgency...both sides working in case of northeast have hidden Sins in their name
Ranveer, we need a podcast on Kunan Posphpora. Your generation and ours need to know the truth. You have to bring an army personnel to discuss and admit to what happened to the women there? Government has never spoken about it.
Can you please talk/discuss about the ongoing Manipur issue by inviting an expert, there isn't much main-stream news coverage about the crux of the issue. Love your channel!
How many Manipuri women were rape by Assam rifles and how many fake encounte were register in the supreme counter just check...just make sense clip renveer...
@@iabhaysaini false claim, the national anthem was first sung in 1911 at the Calcutta session of the Indian national congress and prior to 1947 all of the northeastern states are not pat of india, how could they be included in the national anthem.
@@iabhaysaini people will just generalise and not go to details, here in the Northeast, except Assam we have different customs and beliefs different from the rest of India, Ahom dynasty belongs only to Assam, not the rest of the northeast
@@iabhaysaini that's bullcrap, NE tribes never practiced your sanatan dharma. Manipuri Meiteis were forcefully converted to Hinduism in 1700s. Their Meitei script was replaced with Bengali. Don't spread fake news here.
Indian Government should provide tanks and jets in Nagaland. I haven't seen a tank or a jet in Nagaland. And It should be on the surrounding of border of Nagaland to combat against Terrorists militants. Jai Hind 🇮🇳🤝
Mor, what is it about? If the Sikhs, Rajputs, and greatly Marathas, did not fight back and bring down mughal empire...you all will have long beards now...do you get it?
What is North East please tell us? Tell us that North East is united and there are no Inter-tribal wars among the tribes there. We know about the North East brother, it's not like qe don't know. People are well aware these days
@@abhishek.chakraborty Almost all Ahoms are found in Assam and I don't think they had separatist feelings against the Indian Union. So don't drag them in. The problems mostly lied in Manipur, Nagaland and Mizoram. Fortunately most problems have been shorted our.
@@toholisema4u He just said, most of the Indians are not aware of the North East. So It's useless to bring in the topic of Rajpoots, Sikhs and the Mughals.
Nobody is trying to harm innocents here. There's a thing called, "give respect and get respect". Just stop racism to Northeast people and see how fast the situation changes. It is already starting to change now, militancy is almost getting erased in Manipur.
I respect Indian soldiers for keeping us safe and sound and protecting our borders but it's time for all the Retd Indian military personnel who are flooding the internet these days to stop acting as Indian Army are free from any wrongdoings, and are knights on white horses. They are not. The amount of atrocities that the armed forces have committed in the Northeast India against the indigenous people under the AFSPA, if ever see the light of the day will defame the Indian army to the point of no return. To suggest that people of Northeast are naive, and are manipulated by disinformation and lack of awareness is straight undermining the right & the capabilities of the people of Northeast to decide for themselves. It's simple in the perspective of Northeast Indians, "If you treat us with respect, we will treat you with 10x respect. If you treat us with dignity, we will treat you with 10x dignity. But if you disdain us, we will return it 100x."
In TN people don't know where is Assam....This is the reality of this country.....Federal Union of States.....Sarder Vallbh Bhai Patel's work.... Money.... identification....food taste,How society is growing etc etc....
First of all, I would like to applaud the channel for at least making the effort to initiate conversation and chatter on such a controversial topic. However, like many people have mentioned, the title is very misleading. The North East is more than just Manipur and the Colonel here is only recounting his experience. His word based on his perspective as an armyman cannot and should not be accepted as the sole truth. Therefore, the 'reason' mentioned is unjustifiable. To the Colonel, I think he deserves some appreciation for trying to present the situations from three points of view. However, I do not agree with him that people are unaware and they are being manipulated into thinking a certain way. I think that is a very dismissive attitude which no one likes. Also, to just casually attribute militancy to young people wanting to hold guns and feel 'raw sense of power' is highly ignorant and dangerous. It might be true for some but the roots of underground militancy did not start that way. It would have been a good idea to try and talk about the origin of militancy based on informed research. By the way, this is not to mean I or everyone supports these militant groups. I don't. There must be and has to be better ways to reach an understanding. More importantly, a blanket comment saying people do not feel like a part of India should be followed with a very measured and clear explanation. His statement is true to some extent but there are also people like myself who would rather try to find an agreeable solution within the idea of a unified India.
Exploitation is done from the Indian government side…. After studying in other states of India.. I as a Manipuri feel unsafe.. due to the peoples curiosity and their lake of knowledge regarding Northeast people
I think the Colonel didn't do his homework right. It ain't all about gaining power. But then it is expected of a soldier to follow orders rather than questioning the rationale behind it. The northeast is not homogeneous. They are several states locked together which gives the impression of being same. But believe me each has it's own culture and reasons for insurgency. Some states don't even experience it. There are two main groups Nationalists and Separatists which can be further divided into different factions . The cause for the Nationalists are checking immigration from nearby Bangladesh and to pressure the government to grant statehood for distinct tribes. They in no way wish to secede from the union but to make sure their communities thrive in India. And then there's the more radical one. The Separatists never wanted they became a part of India from day one. They are active in the far east . So far that somehow the Indian feeling doesn't resound with them. And I don't blame them. They have their roots in the Pacific from the likes of Borneo ,New Guinea and Phillipines. They have nothing to do with Prithviraj Chauhan or Muhammad Ghori. But the then government was hell bent on subjugating them. These revolutionaries are now being known as ‘insurgents’
i feel very sad for the atrocities done with northeast in past. But it was the fault of government at that time which ignored NE. But now things are changing and country is focusing on northeast for development
Yeah yeah Manipur is also India's Sikkim darjeeling is also India's. If possible Nepal is also India's. Because of this attitude Nostradamus has predicted down fall of India in coming days. Killed so many Nepalese is darjeeling but still they want to recruit Gorkhas in their army. India's attitude is great.
The officer is right. meitei insurgents have a very high moral code of conduct. If one of the cadre do wrong to public, he or she will get punishment according to the crime committed. One time meitei insurgents ambush a column of Assam rifles not knowing there were wife and children of the commander inside the bullet proof vehicle... So all died. After knowing the incident the insurgent organisation make a public apology. I myself is a meitei and i want to say is that forces like bsf crpf is better for Manipur because Assam rifles is mainly composed of NE people so everytime a communal clash happens, Assam rifle personals become biased base on his ethnicity.
The truth is if any jawans has done something wrong or any misdeeds then as a punishment he is put in assam rifles n sent to Manipur ... n what he does is take out the revenge by beating n killing people of manipur - their headquarters of assam rifles manipur was removed by 8 to 9 naked woman asking them to rape them - because they raped a girl who was in their custody - assam rifles is the most unprofessional people
From where I come from, ie. CCpur, one of the southern districts in Manipur, even a commandant/colonel would do about his usual business without any escort. And the same goes for all the jawans to the highest ranks. Irony is, if this kind of conduct esp. by higher ranking officers is reported to the concerned authorities, they could get chargesheet or serious chiding for breach of protocol.😂 That's how peaceful we are with any outsiders. And should anything bad happen today to them, which is very very rare, the civil organisations and everyone will come flock together to their cause. Eg. During the ambush and demise of Col. Tripathi of Assam Rifles and his entire family of a child and wife incl. 2 of his escort details (and several wounded), the villagers there rushed even before the firing subsided and aid the wounded soldiers while paying their homage to the deceased with their traditional shawl (the highest form of respect anyone can get) and rushed them to the nearest PHCs in the nearby village, while waiting and forming a human chain until backup arrives. [It is later learnt that the locals even alerted local insurgent groups concerned and the insurgents pursued the perpetrators far into the boundary of Myanmar.]
Read some history, northeast was not inside hindustan before those English invasion. So after British left why we included inside? We never sign a treaty. And center never had the guts to talk it out. It's is a historical thing ,that we can't deny. Get it?
Lack of awareness, in North East india? When our whole education system revolves around Indian history, geography & everything related to India, how can you simply call the North -eastern issues 'lack of awreness'? Lack of awareness is when an Indian doesn't even know where Nagaland,Manipur,Assam,Meghalaya ,Mizoram,Tripura,Arunachal Pradesh & sikkim is situated or even a part of india, leave aside our history!
The reason why there has been insurgency in the Northeast is because of the merger agreements, both with British India and The Republic of India were done without any proper plebiscite. And the most significant thing was that the Central Indian Government continued the system of exploitation of resources without any giving any profit to the North East that began with the British.
I have recently come back from Manipur. I was working there. They are the best people so far I have ever met.
They are ethical, decent, and fit people. Especially, the tribals living in the hills like kukis and nagas.
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kuki what is kuki
😂😂😂 kuki what is that
@@khaidemnilkumar6381 They are a tribe in Manipur !
My father is also serving in Assam rifles and currently deploy in Manipur Indian-mayanmar border. Seriously life is so tough in there. Not proper shelter and food patrolling in jungles from 15-20 km a day.. God bless all jawans nd their families who are their stand strong against all odds for us. It's a request guys shower ur love for them whenever you saw any army personnel with a salute it' make all their pain away.. Jai Hind 🇮🇳
Well i dont mean to target anyone but who are you going to point the finger at Northeast/Indian govt.
@@smiphel20lag72 what? Don't get you exactly. I'm only saying bout the hardships what our jawans going through in their.
@@prateekrawat4913 i know what you're trying to convey. Bring development and everything will change. And who is denying the development? Indian govt. And under what ministry is Assam Rifles , the Home Ministry.The NDA govt.And who are facing the hardships the soldiers . Simply as that.
We do bro ... we all salute our soldiers and every citizen has height level of respect for our soldiers. Jai Hind
@@smiphel20lag72 But when they're opposing and boycott govt law how could it be possible for development in those regions? They've their rebels group and maoist who ambush on army also they manipulate people towards govt so that bridge btw govt and peoples couldn't be made and they make their own law's so that Chaos be there nd peace shouldn't.
Actually the main reason for insurgency in Manipur are as follows
1) India Completely ignored the state for many years after joining the Indian union in 1949.
2) Imagine getting downgraded from an ancient independent kingdom to a part-C state, administered by a commissioner. It got full statehood only in 1972.
3) RACISM faced by the people in mainland India.
4) Lack of development funds and connectivity, and some cases of human rights abuse by the security personnels.
But the situation has completely changed now, the insurgency problem is slowly disappearing.
True... past indian governments is to blame... North east people are great
Blame your own politicians. Not on indian government.
@@DB-rl1ih There are things that can be blamed to the local politicians and things that the local politicians are powerless against. Local politicians can't do anything in regard to the central government treating the Northeast region as a buffer zone in the past. It was only after the Indo-China war of 1962 that the central government started taking the Northeast region seriously and only after the 90s or 2000s that the central government started paying attention to infrastructure development.
@@DB-rl1ih Politicians are part of the Indian Goverment.😁😁😁😁😁😁
Burmese refugee and migrant population influx as well
A humble request Ranveer, time to realise we are 8 odd seperate states, tagging whole Northeast and only talk about Manipur is not justified.
You better study history
@@deepjyoti5640 But he has a point. Manipur does not reflect the core issues each State has.
I am interested what you have to say about my people's history.
Have you read it in a book or experienced it ?
You don't need to just say, "you better study history" and just disregard his point. Instead share your ideas and opinions based on facts and help educate each other, because that is the main issue we are facing now. Ignorance.
@@deepjyoti5640 Also, History. Our true heritage and history is not in any educational books. I learned about my people's history through my grandparents experience, my parents experience, my experience.
Which board in the country have a single chapter of our history? During my highschool, not even my own state board had a chapter of our history because it can't compete with the rest of the country.
Won't you call that discrimination over a whole group and heritage of people ?
But that's besides my point.
My point is, if he were to study "history" as you suggested, which book does he need to pick up ? What are the major subjects which he needs to take up which focuses on the NE history and struggles for him to be educated ?
NE is a collection of 8 States, united and share alot of rich culture and loved and protected as sisters. But have their own individual heritage and history and beliefs.
Ignoring that and clumping the 8 States as NE and only focusing on one State in this case, Manipur brings more questions than answers.
To my understanding the original commenter meant to say was, if you want to talk about Manipur, talk about Manipur. But if you bring the whole of NE together, talk about all the whole of NE and not generalise an issue to be the same for each State. The same goes with belief and ideology.
An Example, Mizoram was the first state in the World to be bombed by it's own country.
Yes, NE but not the same history as Manipur or Nagaland or Assam, etc.
Yes True all states should be discussed
Right👍
This is because Manipur was a sovereign Kingdom before India's independence and during the formation of the country, Manipur was initially not involved and was to remain as sovereign Kingdom. But was forced to join so that's why there are many rebellions because even after joining , we were not recognised enough and were treated horribly . There are many opinions about the kabaw valley (in modern day Myanmar) which belonged to Manipur and was exchanged by Jawaharlal Nehru for Andaman and Nicobar as it is historically more connected to India and will serve as better use . I don't know if this is true but this is what our elders has told us since we were young also ,this story has not been discussed or confirmed . Considering the current situation of 2023 , there are going to be more insurgents rising . Honestly, i don't want to support any of the insurgency or forcing a king to sign the merger agreement . Lastly, i think that I am happy in which country i belong to and proud to be Indian . Don't stereotype that all northeast Indians want to seperate away from India , that people are probably extremists and most of us are happy that we get to be an Indian. (Comment for educational purpose only )
As a northeastern the ethics that i (we) live n die for remains. Sets us apart. Hope NE continues to inculcate this legacy of respect towards women children n family , n pass on the next generation of northeasterns .
I’ve been to manipur….if u behave nicely with them they are the nicest….but if u behave nasty with them, they are the nastiest
My humble request to all my brothers and sisters from north east please do not consider yourself different from India.we are united and remain united.We all are proud Indians.
I am from Assam & here we consider ourselves very much as Indians! No question about that!
You're wrong. What I've seen and heard recently on internet is that North East people are way more patriotic than any us folks in other parts of India.
I would never trust patriotism from a woke liberal from mumbai or bangalore. But i will any day trust the patriotism from north east people.
Kya mazak he
It’s not us it’s you considering Northeast as other part
The fact is that even other Indians don't consider northeast Indians as Indians. Otherwise terms like chinki would never have existed 🤣🤣
Shup up
@@Algebra-sk5th can't face facts when it's going against you 🤣🤣
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Chinki word leftist anti Indian logo ne diya hai taki India ko break kar sake
1. Title should have been "Soldier's experience in Manipur". I think the period he is talking about here is late 90s and early 2000s and he was probably posted in valley region of Manipur(Because he mentioned Thabal Chongba, the dance). Also, experiences in valley and hilly areas might be completely different.
2. I think when he came to Manipur in this period, there had been recently the ban of Hindi movies in theaters. Before this, there were Hindi movies shown in theaters. (I heard stories of elder people talking about blockbusters like Sholay in Manipuri theaters) In my opinion, the ban was a good thing for Manipuri cinema because people started watching them instead of Hindi pictures which was dominating the cinemas.
3. He did not explain the REASON of insurgency in Manipur here. He was telling his experience. And about people feeling sense of "power" with
guns on their hands, the issue or reason of this conflict is not that simple. Many insurgents joined these groups because of trauma of near ones died in this conflict or they were being tortured by the military.
4. More interesting questions should have been asked in this podcast. There was no need to sensationalize the story here. Col. Rajeev's life story is interesting and inspiring by itself.
Even In the 90s , maximum indians don't even know NE india exist ( not to blame all ,because there were few who we're really good ) . We are talking about about educated Indians , forget about the rural Indian .
When the militants were imposing banns here in NE , we were still hoisting India's flag and singing national anthem in our school during 15Aug and 26 Jan..
So tell everyone don't bullsh*t us about Nationalism .. You cannot blame and buly and harrased the entire population just because few 100 numbers of militants caused you trouble.
The Indian army has caused tremendous harm and hatred and atrocities to the innocent civilian of NE using AFSPA which has caused the people to hate them and other Non-resident of NE specially the business class people who looted the innocent NE people through their business monopolistic character .
@@RaliangbAs a North Indian, i agree and I feel really sorry about this. What you're telling is correct and not doubt human rights violations must be there. But situation is changing now. People are more aware about NE.
the feeling of differences become worsen after the india-sino war.. where late PM Nehru request the fellow NE indian on radio to join and fight on the war and when india surrender the PM let us no info.. and we keep fighting the chinese.. and we feel betrayed.. thats whats my grandfather and his friends say.. they even fought the japanese war... before that..
Same with my grandfather
North East peoples are so powerful brave and patriotic for their motherland
That we can see in past : like how they fight with mugals and invaders
It would be great if Manipuris and people of the North East come forward and explain their perspective behind this insurgency and their feelings.
The root cause I believe stems from the 'wrongful' annexation of Manipur into India. There are tons of articles on how Maharaja Bodhachandra was forced to sign the Instrument of Accession under pressure. I believe armed insurgency began in the late 60s Or early 70s when step motherly treatment was given to Manipur by New Delhi. In the early days their insurgency was supported by the masses because it was about freedom and self determination and it resonated with the people. These days the majority of people don't support these groups as today they have strayed from their path and started doing extortion, terrorism, kidnapping, gun and drug smuggling. I honestly think the Indian Army can flush these insurgents out but they won't cause they have a lot to benefit if insurgency flourish in Manipur.
If a Manipuri explains even peacefully s/he will be forced arrested under some stupid charges. History on mainland is wrong, Manipur was annexed by forced but voluntary then Nehru gifted a large valley - Kabaw valley to Myanmar without asking Manipur and India hasn’t explain a bit about this.
@@thembasapam7838Hyderabad , junagadh , j&k also forcefully annexed in India with army
@@aniket1638 so you agree that insurgency is valid and good step??🤔🤔
@@thembasapam7838 Dear Themba, I have tried to put forward my perspective in a reply above. There are wrongs being committed in the past and present. We need to find solutions. I know it is difficult but not impossible.
Ranveer just a small request please do change the title of the video to "why manipur people didn't consider themselves as Indians" . The present title 'don't consider' is a bit misleading and might have negative(obviously unwanted) impact on anyone who just sees the thumbnail and not the whole video!!
Totally agree it is ignorant at best
@@Roonlovesfish3874 it is a clickbait strategy, they will go to any extent for views
@@libra.42 That is sad 😕
I don't think it is done intentionally. But in case done for clickbait or something, please change this ASAP. And personally I don't think much changes after replacing 'don't' with 'didn't' as far as viewersips and clicks due to title and thumbnail is concerned. Pls change the title
Title has been changed! Thanks Ranveer and Team
As a Meetei, I feel the comment about our animosity towards India because of a lack of awareness is caused by a lack of awareness about us as a whole. A lot of us don't give a shit about whether we are part of India or not. We just care about our state and people. When you consider the atrocities committed by the Indian army not only towards us, but the North-East as a whole, you can see why a lot of people would be angry. The forced implementations of Hindi also doesn't help. It was mandatory for upto the 8th standard, but now it's upto the 10th. Until and unless the govt accepts the fact that people don't want their language or culture to go away, insurgence will still be a thing.
Great👍,we dont care whether we r in.... or not
And Meitei imposing also won't help in Manipur
Yes so Many tribes and their culture ,only english can connect northeast I think .....
@@Thephilosopher319 hindi
@@pksindi8948 no bro
Lots of love from Churachandpur(Lamka) Manipur
Being part of Indian armed forced, Colonel is not in position to reveal real reason of insurgency in Manipur. I can understand that easily. Not knowing Hindi is not strange thing in India. Tamils dont know Hindi, is this strange? If Govt of India play with sentiments of local and keep avoiding and ignoring them, definitely differences will start pop out between govt and locals. Once independent kingdom, later joined to India as "ignored state", obviously locals feel insecure and get feeling of ignorance.And on top of that if govt uses forces to silent the voices and few security personnel uses ASFPA to rape women and kill innocent, it will be like pouring petrol on fire.
Ranveer as a North Eastern we can’t think that I m not an Indian…. And who is he to say that we are not thinking as an Indian….
You didn't understand the conversation sir. Its not what he said...
This is a two way affair of ignorance and negligence .There is lack of belongings among some sections of North East Indian People due to lack of close interactions and negligence along with remoteness of distance ,differences of cultures. Adding to that the attitudes of Mainland Indians towards fellow NE Indians is regrettable and shameful. They refuse to consider them as Indians because of looks,cultures etc and humiliation is common occurrence. Let alone among public even Government Officials are shockingly ignorant of their existence. Hope one single incident will suffice, at New Delhi International Airport a Manipuri Woman delegate was told by Officials that she don't look like Indian by looking at her Indian Passport.
She would have to reply to the official, you mean I don't look like a black person ?.😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Atrocities by few of these Armies has done in NE States is horrendous. These states were forcefully included but again you cant disrespect them and abuse them as you wish
@Xrp you can also show some softness which you are talking about ,this is not your softness or kindness.....
Manipur, nagaland were separate indipendent countries, captured by British and then in 1947 areas landed into Indian lap.
They were never Indians.
India just wants to hold on to these territories by all means.
After independence all stated accept to be in India that's why they're in India. Pakistan and Bangladesh also captured by Britishers as India but they're different countries now so nothing is landed into indian lap. There's agreement for every state and yes for long time some areas were ignored and not developed and we have to change ourselves only coz of their looks we called them Chinese Nepali and all without knowing origin.
Nagaland was never a country though. And Manipur was a protectorate princely state.
Nagaland was never an independent country but manipur was once a princely state and independent kingdom, still manipur has prince but no authority to control the state.
@@simpleguy38 Nagaland was actually more independent than Manipur ever was because Manipur was controlled by Burma at various points of history and came under British suzerainty quite early in 1826 itself.
Khalistani Munda 😂 spotted
Bring him back again his voice is as commanding as he is........
I'm a Naga and insurgency is not a new thing to me. We grew up with it and they have public support
Why?
How's it now?
Even as a NE , We are currently living with them and have public support,,,, One leader of Insurgency was killed by the Police and People started to Protest ,,,
THIS IS FOR THOSE WHO CLAIM TO HAVE LIVED IN MANIPUR AND SPREADING HATRED HERE. If you want RESPECT, respect others first, as simple as that. Most non-native people who come and settle here NEVER interact, participate, show interest and respect the culture, lifestyle and all And yet they're gere commenting THIS and THAT. Take it from the words of a real Manipuri. Don't believe me?? Come and see for yourself. For the rest, INSURGENCY is all history now, we didn't even experience it during our childhood so RELAX. Moreover, some people here asking what's the reason and why for insurgency, you gotta dig a bit Deeper to the history of this state. If you're someone who's Never or hardly heard the name of Manipur other than Mary Kom, then you're not FIT to comment. I've been almost everywhere in India and surprisingly, 85% of the population fail in General knowledge. You'll be surprised to know how many population of our country have no knowledge of all the states and yet, will call themselves ANYTHING 😂. Anyway, good video, it's time to MOVE On. The center should stop NEGLECTING THE NORTH EAST. We don't even have Railway connection even after how long the first train was brought in India, so imagine yourself how the government has been treating us. Peace out. Goodbye 👋
Love from arunachal Pradesh India 💕💕
Just within a minute of watching, I can already find mistakes and biases in his words.
Manipur then and now are very different. It would not be correct to bring up the past to weigh the present situation. Manipur is a state where there are more than 20% people from outside the state. Biharis, punjabis, haryanvis, marwaris, bengalis, tamils, you name it.. You can find them there. Now who would ask you "are you indian?" I'm sorry but you are either trying to add masala to your story or just a confident blatant liar.
Again, no hindi books? Man.. Hindi is compulsory till 8th std and there are thousands who still opt hindi after that. There are many books and hindi movies sold in the markets. Hindi channels were the only ones shown during those days DD1 or DD2..
Now tell me, why does he have to start with such a wrong premise? One can only imagine.
I live in manipur..i can confirm this
It was fault of all government... they avoided people of North east interests....
. Kannada pride. Kannada power
Why didn't you say Kannada? Include Kannada in your list.
. Bangalore is a Kannada place. It's Bengaluru.
First step would be for Main landers ( Northerners, for lack of a better term) ) to consider Manipuris as Indians too.
Numerous instances where easterners treated as foreigners or called Chinese.
Here from Manipur ,India.
During 1950's to 90's Indian armies killed many tribals and raped many tribal women misusing ASPA by the armies and all this happened in the eyes of central government. That is the one of the strong reason for insurgency in NE and Indian government forcefully merging NE states with indian union by using Armies and family force
Title is misleading and could be dangerous for image of India.
RANVEER PLEASE NEVER DO SUCH KIND OF MISTAKES. INDIA FIRST. DIE FOR INDIA'S INTEGRITY. WORK FOR INDIA'S INTEGRITY. INDIA IS A IDEOLOGY, A EMOTION WHICH TEACHES THAT WORLD IS A FAMILY(VASUDEV KUTMUMBAKAM). DON'T DO SUCH SILLY THINGS FOR CLICKBAIT. SHAMEFUL ACT.
What's misleading??
Makes so much sense now, i had some Manipuri friend's during my school days. It was so weird to me when they really didn't know anything related to Hindi movies, songs or the language. Now i know why. It wasn't only the Manipuri friends, but also Mizo and so many more. But times have changed now. It is not like how it was back in the day.
What about you guys do you know anything about northeast songs and films and their culture.
@@worldfootball8496 yes. I'm from the Northeast itself.
@@holymoly5249 yes even mainland india knew nothing about northeast india.
@@worldfootball8496 I know especially after cheap internet and majority people know and love northeast especially of young age. Many of North East people live in Delhi and I always have great experience with them.
It's not just Northeast, the story is same in South as well. Ppl are still clueless on what happens in North or Northeast, Literally!!
Im grateful to be SUDANESE🇸🇩 we dont have urgencies willing to separate we have moved on and became a united country. SUDANA FOOG🇸🇩🇸🇩
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truth is bitter!!! We were force To sign treaty with India. That's how we are part of India. We had our own kingdoms and kings and freedom fighters Fought for freedom from The British Colonial. HOWEVER None of them are remembered in any of Indian History. The Truth is better.. we are the most socialize groups. Saď this officer was not educated on that, unlike, the other Officer Earlier you interviewed before.
This is the case with most states but I didn't know that it was forced or not, that's the reason we have federal structure and state governments.
@@subhaschandrabose8454 In Nagaland Same case..We don't consider ourselves as Indian..We were forcely integrated into Union of India
Bruh! It's pretty much the same story for most states of India. Lot of freedom fighters from northeast and South didn't make to our history textbooks.
@@fede7627naga is an ethnicity just like I am Bengali and india is union bof all ethnicity that's it . There were no word name naga because it was given by the British , it didn't exist
Sahi kaha aapne....north east ko wo haq milna chahiye jiske wo hakdaar hai ....Hamare desh ke har hisse par unka utna hi haq hai,jitna hamara ....aap ka vikas hai naye Bharat ka vikas hai
Make North East a seperate Republic just like Taiwan, we will prosper faster and munch of problems will cease to exist both for Northeast and India.
China likes ur comment😁
Oversimplification at the best. I don’t blame him. He had a job and he did it. Lack of honesty and political will at the start of independent India led to this. Even now, one will say it has improved a lot but this is just on the surface and it can turn dark very quickly. It’s not all about taking up a gun and start fighting. I am saying this as a Manipuri.
BTW, Col. sahab, if you ever visit again, come and join - thabal chongba again. 😊
Do you support insurgency over there?
@@anushka-gu3nf why would I support it? But there are things India needs to address which it did during the annexation. I don’t support any arm way of solving problems.
@@thembasapam7838 what india did??
@@anushka-gu3nf Go and do your research. Stop pointing fingers on my north eastern brothers before you educate yourself.
@@thembasapam7838 no offense man but could you explain it from your local perspective why were you guys alienated from us, what has changed, what needs to happen, etc. They don't even teach correct history as I am sure you are well aware. There are lot of distortion so I am not sure what to believe. Even our history books which we read in our schools are distorted and a**holes are glorified for example the Mughals, etc. Could you give me a starting point?
Don't misguide people by saying 'North east ' ,north east is composed of 7 states and manipur is one of them. So if you're talking about manipur then kindly mention 'manipur ' only. Don't drag other 6 states. I'm from Assam. And I'm proud to be an indian ❤
@Abraham ka kata lawda fool saying
@Abraham ka kata lawda RIP to your knowledge
@Abraham ka kata lawda it is but assamse people are waking up.
Me too
Good for you
I am living we are indians
So proud of you ..when so many Indians dnt even know about Manipur you actually talked about it... I am from manipur and everything said here is true.. despite I could see some comments justifying with some absurd logic , I can tell you everything said by sir here is true
They have a term or slang for people who dnt look like them in feature and that is Mayang which means outsiders which explains it all.. even a smal kid there is brain washed to be a racist,,,just go and point to a person who looks different to him ask the kid who is he,,, he will call him him Mayang
Than please justify his statement, ' there is not a single book , Hindi newspaper , Hindi film in Manipur . How's this true
@@smiphel20lag72 He is being generic here . Not specific . I have lived in Manipur for 2 years so please don't display your hate here
@smiphel and I was born in Manipur with my great grandfather also born in Manipur ... I am not spreading hate I am putting light to an issue why is it wrong ..racism and intolerance to the people who do not look alike is seen in most part of the country if you can condemn it or voice against it ...WHY CAN'T I ??????
It's evident and true if you want proof go check the internet and get your facts right
@@smiphel20lag72 tell me are not Hindi movies bandh in Manipur ?
@@smiphel20lag72 although in the last 4/5 yrs you might have seen some changes but in the year 2013 outsiders were targeted ...poor labourers were killed by simply bombing them ,, extortion money were demanded from even today businessman in Manipur are made to pay Ransome money bcoz they dnt look like the indigenous there
We don't even have a chapters on a ahom empire and how can we expect not insurgency, we don't have a separate chapter on North East tribals and ethnicity
I am from north east india how can we survived don't know your central government.. since 1962 war🙏🏽🙏🏽
Last lines are very true and the dance is Thabal Chongba, hope you enjoy the moonlight dance😊
I'm proud of myself being in the Elite 18th Assam Rifles.
Remove AFSPA from Northeast.
We the people of Northeast have enough of harrassment and torture from the military men.
If they remove AFSPA then there will be a lot of insurgencies. Plus, goi doesn't want the state to be independent.
Absolutely revealing & stunning - the 2nd part & till the end. 👍👍👍
We north east people respect all. Respect us and we reciprocate in whole. But if you disrespect we will die for that
Awesome experience you've got sir... And facts too 💯
Im from meghalaya and here we have 101 Area HQ, Assam Regiment HQ, GTC, BSF northeast HQ and Assam Rifles. My only request to these forces is to be humble and respect us since ive seen sometimes they go rougue on innicent civilians which causes hatred towards theses forces. If these forces show respect towards our culture, traditions and be humble with us, maybe they can earned our respect since we in meghalaya our hospitable to anyone who enter our state whether from north, west or south india.
Bro thats the best personality i have ever seen
The truth is never one sided. Unfortunately he didn't speak the truth here, truth by which I mean the absolute truth. Any kind of insurgency is a result of exploitation of the unaware that is true, but there has to be a certain % of lacking that these people have felt or still feel maybe that made them not associate themselves with India. Might be because of the Govt, who knows but just solely being unaware doesn't result in insurgency of this level. We should acknowledge that as well.
I will tell you the "lacking" here- not knowing about their history and indic identity. Slow but systematic removal from their cultural identity by various powers. It can be maoism, call it british overlords. Whatever.
But the rest of the India is way past this notion that "they were the oppressed and neglected hence they picked up the weapons". This statement doesnt fly anymore in rest of the parts of India. Sorry if that makes you feel hurt.
@@UKpowerunleashed My opinion was based upon me not knowing only. My opinion came from the point of view that everything is grey and nothing is black and white. So when, the colonel mentioned that it is just due to exploitation of the unaware, I made the the point that it is can't be the only truth.
Like you mentioned, "Slow but systematic removal from their cultural identity by various powers. It can be maoism, call it british overlords." There can be other reason as well which we are unaware of.
And yes the notion of neglected so picked up weapons doesn't fly anymore is something that might not be justified but again, it might be a truth that we ain't aware of.
@@sayannagchoudhary8293 okay.
@@UKpowerunleashed that's nonsense. Manipur Kingdom has been there for thousands of years, never under India until the British arrived, made them a protectorate state then a Princely state in 1891.
There is nothing like Indic history there except their forced conversion to Hinduism in 1700s and the destruction of their native Meitei script which was replaced with Bengali script. Don't sanskritise our history, we'll fight against it. Your attempts to sanskritise Arunachal is already failing, fabricated stories of "Rukmini is from Arunachal", attempts to Hinduise Rangfraa is fooling nobody anymore.
I think its vice versa people from all around india treat us people from northeast like shit and are racist until we get gold medals for our country and then they suddenly start making biopics and stuff . i have stayed in delhi for almost 10 years and still get taunts like chinki nepali and stuff even if that illegal. its obvious people from northeast would be distant from people like them.
Lmao , even I have faced racism not because that I m from northeast (well I m Maharashtrian) because I have dark skin tone (kallu) and short height(batla) 😅 so stop being selective
@@laalsalaam893 there's a difference between the two. Your comment is very ignorant and trivialises an important issue.
Please interview people from the northeast. A two sided story is crucial to understand the base of anything, especially if you want to know what is happening in the NE.
Brother
There is a history relation between how Hinduism was spread across Manipur( there is a whole story/topic about it)
, from then the fight between the indigenous manipuri people called as meetei and bishnupriyas (hindus) came into existence
From what I've heard Bishnupriya are indigenous people and Meitei are Burmese immigrants who first sought refuge and slowly started to annex the region . The King of cachar was assassinated by Meitei immigrants
@@therapeuticsoundsofnature2006 I'm sorry to tell you but i think what you've heard is from wikipedia and it is very likely that the information is wrong.
@@therapeuticsoundsofnature2006 Bisnupuriyas migrated from BENGAL
Meiteis give refuge to Bengali refugees and then they later claimed to be indegineous
@@therapeuticsoundsofnature2006 The theory that Meiteis are Burmese who Invaded Manipur is created by British which Bisnupuriyas still believe in. Meiteis fought the Burmese from time to time. Meiteis have protected every community and now they are being portrayed as an Invaders. What a Hipocricy. Watch Abhijit Chavda say about this
One thing i noticed... in arunachal even if you are foreigner no one gonna harm you even in midnight male or female..until and unless you dont hurt their egoes.
From Manipur
Kinda enjoyed🙂
Dil mange more😜
Of all the podcast clips I have seen, this is my all time favorite. Fascinating!!
9:33 The dance is 'thabal chongba' not 'thangal chongba'.
My father also serving in Assam rifles ... lots more to know about these place due to under development....
Respect for the officer , I am a Meitei . What sir had explained are the moments he had experienced not the reasons.
Lemme try to just brief some reason( there are many though!)
1)Manipur was an Independent kingdom and the area was much larger. It extended to some part of Myanmar know as 'Kabaw Valley' and to west it was upto sylhet in Bangladesh . Cachar Assam in sometime was also under Manipur. After India annexed it shrink to the smallest possible area. Kabaw Valley was gifted to Myanmar by India.
2) Our king was forced to sign merger agreement in Shillong Meghalaya. And after that from a kingdom , it was given part - c status which we feel is a disrespect, until 1972 when Mp got statehood.
3) About ban on Hindi movie ,just like mainland Indian want to promote their Hindi movie ,south indian their South Movie ,We also want to grow our Manipuri Film and Drama industry which indeed had happen and many eminent artist of our had received national awards.
4)The negligence by Central govt. in undeniable though!Modi has been doing great, he can visit other countries, feel the pain of other country but not its own state.
5) There are deep proxy war waged against us ...
incidents of Indian army war crime against civilians..
Many more
Only №5 is true.
I am from manipur ... Its all due to curruption of the leaders .. and its slowly turning into something like modern day pakistan .. its the sad truth
The Things is So many people don't know the real truth about northeast insurgency...both sides working in case of northeast have hidden Sins in their name
Please bring Colnol Rajeev ASAP
Ranveer, we need a podcast on Kunan Posphpora. Your generation and ours need to know the truth. You have to bring an army personnel to discuss and admit to what happened to the women there? Government has never spoken about it.
Can you please talk/discuss about the ongoing Manipur issue by inviting an expert, there isn't much main-stream news coverage about the crux of the issue. Love your channel!
How many Manipuri women were rape by Assam rifles and how many fake encounte were register in the supreme counter just check...just make sense clip renveer...
where are you from brother ?
You will not find any mention of any of the northeastern states in the national anthem
@@iabhaysaini false claim, the national anthem was first sung in 1911 at the Calcutta session of the Indian national congress and prior to 1947 all of the northeastern states are not pat of india, how could they be included in the national anthem.
@@iabhaysaini people will just generalise and not go to details, here in the Northeast, except Assam we have different customs and beliefs different from the rest of India, Ahom dynasty belongs only to Assam, not the rest of the northeast
@@macdonald6992 so what do you want ? Seperate country ?
@@macs-13 protection from influx
@@iabhaysaini that's bullcrap, NE tribes never practiced your sanatan dharma. Manipuri Meiteis were forcefully converted to Hinduism in 1700s. Their Meitei script was replaced with Bengali. Don't spread fake news here.
Indian Government should provide tanks and jets in Nagaland. I haven't seen a tank or a jet in Nagaland. And It should be on the surrounding of border of Nagaland to combat against Terrorists militants. Jai Hind 🇮🇳🤝
Lol
Go to kohima...in Raj bhawan it is there 🤣
People's talking about NE they even dnt now what's north east so do you want talk with full knowledge of it
Mor, what is it about? If the Sikhs, Rajputs, and greatly Marathas, did not fight back and bring down mughal empire...you all will have long beards now...do you get it?
@@toholisema4u Let's not forget in NE, Ahoms resisted the Mughals..
There was no help from Rajputs (who aided Mughals), Sikhs or "great Marathas"
What is North East please tell us?
Tell us that North East is united and there are no Inter-tribal wars among the tribes there.
We know about the North East brother, it's not like qe don't know. People are well aware these days
@@abhishek.chakraborty Almost all Ahoms are found in Assam and I don't think they had separatist feelings against the Indian Union. So don't drag them in. The problems mostly lied in Manipur, Nagaland and Mizoram. Fortunately most problems have been shorted our.
@@toholisema4u He just said, most of the Indians are not aware of the North East. So It's useless to bring in the topic of Rajpoots, Sikhs and the Mughals.
Nothing aginst manipur fighting for justice is good. But Two requests dont break my country and Don't harm innocents..
Nobody is trying to harm innocents here. There's a thing called, "give respect and get respect". Just stop racism to Northeast people and see how fast the situation changes. It is already starting to change now, militancy is almost getting erased in Manipur.
I respect Indian soldiers for keeping us safe and sound and protecting our borders but it's time for all the Retd Indian military personnel who are flooding the internet these days to stop acting as Indian Army are free from any wrongdoings, and are knights on white horses. They are not. The amount of atrocities that the armed forces have committed in the Northeast India against the indigenous people under the AFSPA, if ever see the light of the day will defame the Indian army to the point of no return. To suggest that people of Northeast are naive, and are manipulated by disinformation and lack of awareness is straight undermining the right & the capabilities of the people of Northeast to decide for themselves.
It's simple in the perspective of Northeast Indians, "If you treat us with respect, we will treat you with 10x respect. If you treat us with dignity, we will treat you with 10x dignity. But if you disdain us, we will return it 100x."
Meitei considered themselves as Kangleipak country😂
Northeast is a gift to our nation.(INDIA)
In TN people don't know where is Assam....This is the reality of this country.....Federal Union of States.....Sarder Vallbh Bhai Patel's work.... Money.... identification....food taste,How society is growing etc etc....
I am from Assam
Now the situation of Manipur is changed
First of all, I would like to applaud the channel for at least making the effort to initiate conversation and chatter on such a controversial topic. However, like many people have mentioned, the title is very misleading. The North East is more than just Manipur and the Colonel here is only recounting his experience. His word based on his perspective as an armyman cannot and should not be accepted as the sole truth. Therefore, the 'reason' mentioned is unjustifiable.
To the Colonel, I think he deserves some appreciation for trying to present the situations from three points of view. However, I do not agree with him that people are unaware and they are being manipulated into thinking a certain way. I think that is a very dismissive attitude which no one likes. Also, to just casually attribute militancy to young people wanting to hold guns and feel 'raw sense of power' is highly ignorant and dangerous. It might be true for some but the roots of underground militancy did not start that way. It would have been a good idea to try and talk about the origin of militancy based on informed research. By the way, this is not to mean I or everyone supports these militant groups. I don't. There must be and has to be better ways to reach an understanding. More importantly, a blanket comment saying people do not feel like a part of India should be followed with a very measured and clear explanation. His statement is true to some extent but there are also people like myself who would rather try to find an agreeable solution within the idea of a unified India.
Exploitation is done from the Indian government side…. After studying in other states of India.. I as a Manipuri feel unsafe.. due to the peoples curiosity and their lake of knowledge regarding Northeast people
I think the Colonel didn't do his homework right. It ain't all about gaining power. But then it is expected of a soldier to follow orders rather than questioning the rationale behind it. The northeast is not homogeneous.
They are several states locked together which gives the impression of being same. But believe me each has it's own culture and reasons for insurgency. Some states don't even experience it. There are two main groups Nationalists and Separatists which can be further divided into different factions . The cause for the Nationalists are checking immigration from nearby Bangladesh and to pressure the government to grant statehood for distinct tribes. They in no way wish to secede from the union but to make sure their communities thrive in India. And then there's the more radical one. The Separatists never wanted they became a part of India from day one. They are active in the far east . So far that somehow the Indian feeling doesn't resound with them. And I don't blame them. They have their roots in the Pacific from the likes of Borneo ,New Guinea and Phillipines. They have nothing to do with Prithviraj Chauhan
or Muhammad Ghori. But the then government was hell bent on subjugating them.
These revolutionaries are now being known as ‘insurgents’
We want north east to be separate country
i feel very sad for the atrocities done with northeast in past. But it was the fault of government at that time which ignored NE. But now things are changing and country is focusing on northeast for development
aey bhai school ja aur padhai karke koi poem suna pehle
Insurgents in Nagaland is funding by the central government of India
The title is misleading.. these guys did not discuss about the reason behind the insurgency at all....
Yeah yeah Manipur is also India's Sikkim darjeeling is also India's. If possible Nepal is also India's. Because of this attitude Nostradamus has predicted down fall of India in coming days. Killed so many Nepalese is darjeeling but still they want to recruit Gorkhas in their army. India's attitude is great.
That dance called (Thabal Chongba)
I present to you : MEN !
The officer is right. meitei insurgents have a very high moral code of conduct. If one of the cadre do wrong to public, he or she will get punishment according to the crime committed. One time meitei insurgents ambush a column of Assam rifles not knowing there were wife and children of the commander inside the bullet proof vehicle... So all died. After knowing the incident the insurgent organisation make a public apology. I myself is a meitei and i want to say is that forces like bsf crpf is better for Manipur because Assam rifles is mainly composed of NE people so everytime a communal clash happens, Assam rifle personals become biased base on his ethnicity.
The truth is if any jawans has done something wrong or any misdeeds then as a punishment he is put in assam rifles n sent to Manipur ... n what he does is take out the revenge by beating n killing people of manipur - their headquarters of assam rifles manipur was removed by 8 to 9 naked woman asking them to rape them - because they raped a girl who was in their custody - assam rifles is the most unprofessional people
I am so glad to have found this video and channel. Such an interesting take. This is Joe Rogan level of interview.
We remember, what did by indian army in Assam at the time of ULFA.😡
Not only nepali ..assames and nagames also spoke
Again the title is misleading
Tribals are Humble, Caring, Warrior.
Demographic changes ruining much here now.
@trsclip they know one side of story and i think you should be know the other side of river too
where can I find Hindi podcast.. I want my mom to watch it.
Marked as misleading
What's misleading??
Kya misleading hai isme
@@randeepchaudhary8240 I believe the caption of the video was controversial earlier. He edited it later I believe.
@@bhagwancapitalism1057 read above.
From where I come from, ie. CCpur, one of the southern districts in Manipur, even a commandant/colonel would do about his usual business without any escort. And the same goes for all the jawans to the highest ranks. Irony is, if this kind of conduct esp. by higher ranking officers is reported to the concerned authorities, they could get chargesheet or serious chiding for breach of protocol.😂 That's how peaceful we are with any outsiders. And should anything bad happen today to them, which is very very rare, the civil organisations and everyone will come flock together to their cause. Eg. During the ambush and demise of Col. Tripathi of Assam Rifles and his entire family of a child and wife incl. 2 of his escort details (and several wounded), the villagers there rushed even before the firing subsided and aid the wounded soldiers while paying their homage to the deceased with their traditional shawl (the highest form of respect anyone can get) and rushed them to the nearest PHCs in the nearby village, while waiting and forming a human chain until backup arrives. [It is later learnt that the locals even alerted local insurgent groups concerned and the insurgents pursued the perpetrators far into the boundary of Myanmar.]
assam rifles- the most professional force in india.
Read some history, northeast was not inside hindustan before those English invasion. So after British left why we included inside? We never sign a treaty. And center never had the guts to talk it out. It's is a historical thing ,that we can't deny. Get it?
Lack of awareness, in North East india? When our whole education system revolves around Indian history, geography & everything related to India, how can you simply call the North -eastern issues 'lack of awreness'? Lack of awareness is when an Indian doesn't even know where Nagaland,Manipur,Assam,Meghalaya ,Mizoram,Tripura,Arunachal Pradesh & sikkim is situated or even a part of india, leave aside our history!
We knew we live in India but India always neglect us in North East. Ethinic people percentage are slowly decreased
The reason why there has been insurgency in the Northeast is because of the merger agreements, both with British India and The Republic of India were done without any proper plebiscite.
And the most significant thing was that the Central Indian Government continued the system of exploitation of resources without any giving any profit to the North East that began with the British.