"If you respect she go round" Pele didn't go around Kalapana did she...she wiped out all the local Hawaiians homes. You going to sit there and watch her do it again? You can change the direction, it's been done. Come on people show her the way to the ocean. Alfred Lee is a hero. He saved his home as well as his neighbors.
Saying that Pele will circumvent those that respect her is shameful victim-blaming, whether you believe in her or not. It's like saying people who die of cancer didn't pray hard enough. Great video, very thorough. What an insane and fascinating issue!
cableguy316 It's straight racism. The underlying insinuation is that white people don't respect the land therefore they deserve to get their house burnt down and diversion isn't justified to save da fuckin haoles house.
In the case of Pahoa barriers did work because the 2014-2015 eruption was mild and so was easier to divert. The problem is the suggestion that it's a one-size-fits-all solution, because barriers do not work for larger scale and fluid eruptions like the 2018 Puna eruption, the 1990 Kalapana eruption, and especially the 1960 Kapoho eruption (which did employ similar barriers that ultimately failed to protect the intended properties), not to mention it being more dangerous when there are active fissures nearby. What "Berm Guy" and other neighbors did at Pahoa may not work in and around Leilani Estates. Never mind the religion. There are now enough people on the Internet who derive their knowledge of eruptions from wonky information from social media and pop culture, and simply do not grasp the potential force of lava flows, going around expressing misinformation and impractical ideas that they think can protect from lava flows. So whenever I read about people complaining about why authorities don't set up barriers around the Puna Geothermal Venture plant (which is right next a couple of active fissures), I cringe. They're more delusional than the people who believe in Pele.
So if you are not supposed to try to divert the lava to protect your home, do those people who say that also not try to protect their homes when mother nature sends a hurricane or rainstorm? Do they not try to protect their property by boarding up their windows, etc?
The guy from the city sounds like a Jerk👎 they need to oust him from his position..... Diversion sounds like a beautiful idea..... Of course you want to protect the people hello wake up wake up wake up wake up...... Protect the people protect the businesses protect the animals/ divert divert divert......
Yikes ! That's frightening ! And not the lava ! Seems like superstition can be very harmful to people and property. No disrespect towards the very kind and generous folks of the Puna district. Wish everyone well.
Mysticism is strong on Big Island. Like in ancient times, storms or droughts get attributed to the "gods". It is a weird balance since it is a modern society with modern infrastructure but the cultural revival has shifted more into reverting back to those old ideologies. They want to shun the modern world but should instead be trying to integrate.
I am glad people are working together to do what they can to save homes or whatever is important to them and you it means alot to have the strong community and spirit too may you all stay safe and be careful
Good for that man trying to do something to save his home. The officials don't seem willing to do anything to stop it just tell you where it might be headed. A cement wall could be poured to divert the flow...but some-thing could be done to stop it or redirect it. Do something ! Pele..oh please. Pele doesn't have anything to do with it.
To divert Pele's flow is Hewaloa.. Today we the people of Earth need to get real. What you see, smell, hear and touch doesn't end there. We are also Spirit. Once you get that partr right then we a ALL have a chance at a better future.
Well where i live is turning into berm city but its worth it because it did divert alot of lava. Now they are building more as the ground uplift suggests another eruption is on its way. Very interesting video
The fact that molten rock has wiped out entire neighborhoods and these mofo's are bringing up legality and permits and whether or not he can TRY to protect his own property from that same molten rock is beyond me.
Madam Pele will not be nice no matter how hard you pray. She will destroy. If you have a way to hold her that is great. I applaud Mr Lee for his outstanding actions. He protected what he could. If he did not he would curse Pele. Now he can pray for gratefulness that he did something new.
This guy is smart, God helps those who help themselves. Stupid to just sit there and wait for the world to eat you up. You live on a Volcano for crying out loud.. you don't think that pisses off the volcano gods?
They changed the course of it in the 80s when the volcano was erupting then and it was heading to Hilo and they air striked it to make it go another way. Not saying it should happen but just saying Pele’s or gods will is a bad/lazy excuse. The only good excuse was that the government doesn’t know where the lava will flow if it is diverted.
Stop getting so pissed, just people want to protect their property from the lava. WHYYYY is it wrong to divert lava that is hot, but it's ok to move it around with a bulldozer after it cools?
This is the same old problem of development in areas that are prone to disasters (like near lava fields and on earthquake faults) and should not be developed in the first place. The lava will just keep coming and eventually spill over the top of the berm, consume the home, then go on down to the next plot of populated land.
You cannot fight nature and GOD...people and the evil forces lose..many of you hate love..GOD'S LOVE pure and HOLY...you ridicule and mock..man always thinks he knows best..that's why the whole world and weather etc is a big MESS..A BIG MESS. .
Ha. Funny, all these hysterical, superstitious, semi-illiterate folks. Not saying "diversion" is practical. But, to totally rule it out and say it's not even worth considering-while personifying the lava and speaking of "Pele" in remarkably unscientific terms-is almost humorous. I'm not trying to disrespect people for their beliefs. But neither should they disrespect me for having beliefs that are different. Opinions are like ... well, a part of our anatomy; everybody has one. I think referring to "Pele" as a personal entity is hilarious. Good luck with your superstition.
aloha to those who know about Pele in Hawai'i yes she has been seen by Hawaiians and visitors as well and I can't explain it, but its so eerie but the volcano that opened up last week now many fissures I do believe that Pele is angry at something. I was told if any one does not respect Pele and honor her she will take revenge, and destroy. also told if any Haole that's a Caucasian person, respects her and anyone who offers her bottle of Gin wrapped in taro leaves and throw it to her she will accept it. but rumor is that Pele wants all white people to leave Hawaii big island, she is reclaiming it to herself and her people the Hawaiians only, no one else, ok I cannot predict that to be true or what because I am not Hawaiian to say this for sure.i have lived in Hawaii on the island of Oahu for 9 years and never seen big island, true I miss Hawaii a lot. but If I were anyone on the island I would caution those to be very careful. and do respect Pele and her people of Hawaii.and do what they can to protect lives and neighbors and stand together, I won't try to predict anything, since I am not Hawaiian. I love the Hawaiian people and their paradise, and my heart goes out to all of you there. who are on the island, take care and be careful stay safe
I believe he should be able to try & save his home as long as he does not divert it into someone else's doing so.
That whole community down there is very colorful.. interesting folks, super friendly most of the time, but lots of eccentric personalities
"If you respect she go round" Pele didn't go around Kalapana did she...she wiped out all the local Hawaiians homes. You going to sit there and watch her do it again? You can change the direction, it's been done. Come on people show her the way to the ocean.
Alfred Lee is a hero. He saved his home as well as his neighbors.
Saying that Pele will circumvent those that respect her is shameful victim-blaming, whether you believe in her or not. It's like saying people who die of cancer didn't pray hard enough.
Great video, very thorough. What an insane and fascinating issue!
cableguy316 It's straight racism. The underlying insinuation is that white people don't respect the land therefore they deserve to get their house burnt down and diversion isn't justified to save da fuckin haoles house.
@@jackstrada5263 But it isn't racist to not respect the natives beliefs and literally call to bomb their godess or tell her what to do?
Fair play to the gentlemen, he's only looking after his home
They did this in Iceland in the fifties and saved a whole town. Of course in Iceland there is no Pele, it's just lava.
Homes on wheels. Problem solved.
Dude took initiative to save his house. Everyone else hates him cuz their too lazy to save their own. Check
convex that's right, he worked hard for it so why not fight to save it?
Pele will target that greedy guy’s property first next time .
@@bluemoon3264 you misspelled "lava"
@@rodneytuxedo7559 You’re delusional !
@@bluemoon3264 lmao. That's rich.
In the case of Pahoa barriers did work because the 2014-2015 eruption was mild and so was easier to divert. The problem is the suggestion that it's a one-size-fits-all solution, because barriers do not work for larger scale and fluid eruptions like the 2018 Puna eruption, the 1990 Kalapana eruption, and especially the 1960 Kapoho eruption (which did employ similar barriers that ultimately failed to protect the intended properties), not to mention it being more dangerous when there are active fissures nearby. What "Berm Guy" and other neighbors did at Pahoa may not work in and around Leilani Estates.
Never mind the religion. There are now enough people on the Internet who derive their knowledge of eruptions from wonky information from social media and pop culture, and simply do not grasp the potential force of lava flows, going around expressing misinformation and impractical ideas that they think can protect from lava flows. So whenever I read about people complaining about why authorities don't set up barriers around the Puna Geothermal Venture plant (which is right next a couple of active fissures), I cringe. They're more delusional than the people who believe in Pele.
they are so superstitious that they didn't even TRY to map out a "best route"
The Kapoho eruption 🌋 sent red cinders floating to Oahu coating Makapuu beach with 2 ft of cinders ... (true)
"Yeah, we're just going to let your house burn down so the imaginary lava god doesn't get mad."
So if you are not supposed to try to divert the lava to protect your home, do those people who say that also not try to protect their homes when mother nature sends a hurricane or rainstorm? Do they not try to protect their property by boarding up their windows, etc?
You’re comparing Apple’s 🍎 to Oranges 🍊 .
The guy from the city sounds like a Jerk👎 they need to oust him from his position..... Diversion sounds like a beautiful idea..... Of course you want to protect the people hello wake up wake up wake up wake up...... Protect the people protect the businesses protect the animals/ divert divert divert......
All these people shouting do not divert are people who are probably nowhere near losing their homes. Easy for them to say.
I like this guy!
Yikes ! That's frightening ! And not the lava ! Seems like superstition can be very harmful to people and property. No disrespect towards the very kind and generous folks of the Puna district. Wish everyone well.
Truth is superstition is a form of mental illness ... Perhaps in the same category as jealousy .
Mysticism is strong on Big Island. Like in ancient times, storms or droughts get attributed to the "gods". It is a weird balance since it is a modern society with modern infrastructure but the cultural revival has shifted more into reverting back to those old ideologies. They want to shun the modern world but should instead be trying to integrate.
I am glad people are working together to do what they can to save homes or whatever is important to them and you it means alot to have the strong community and spirit too may you all stay safe and be careful
Its funny how they are all "let nature take its course!" until its their house in danger...then "its different!".
so sorry for what everyone is going through with all these disasters will be praying for everyone
Good for that man trying to do something to save his home. The officials don't seem willing to do anything to stop it just tell you where it might be headed. A cement wall could be poured to divert the flow...but some-thing could be done to stop it or redirect it. Do something ! Pele..oh please. Pele doesn't have anything to do with it.
it's not just the lava, it's the gases being emitted too.
I might do the same thing, if I was sitting there on my land with a bulldozer.
To divert Pele's flow is Hewaloa.. Today we the people of Earth need to get real. What you see, smell, hear and touch doesn't end there. We are also Spirit. Once you get that partr right then we a
ALL have a chance at a better future.
Well where i live is turning into berm city but its worth it because it did divert alot of lava. Now they are building more as the ground uplift suggests another eruption is on its way. Very interesting video
The fact that molten rock has wiped out entire neighborhoods and these mofo's are bringing up legality and permits and whether or not he can TRY to protect his own property from that same molten rock is beyond me.
lava has been diverted, and cooled, before and can be again. know your history.
Great job at least some trying do just as I was thinking
Failure to take steps to protect your home will result in your insurance company flipping you the bird and walking away. Never forget that.
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Lava can easily be stopped by pumping water onto the flows . Icelanders proved this long ago.
ua-cam.com/video/E632NYUYigM/v-deo.html
I love the religious nuts and their arguments. My father was part of sending people to the moon. Nothing is impossible!
God bless the man.
I,m w/the Berm guy.Not the worshippers of inanimate objects.Even if he fails,dig his spirit,not hot rocks.
anthropomorphism. Don't make human rules for a volcano.
Good Job Alfred Lee!
Madam Pele will not be nice no matter how hard you pray. She will destroy. If you have a way to hold her that is great. I applaud Mr Lee for his outstanding actions. He protected what he could. If he did not he would curse Pele. Now he can pray for gratefulness that he did something new.
This guy is smart, God helps those who help themselves. Stupid to just sit there and wait for the world to eat you up. You live on a Volcano for crying out loud.. you don't think that pisses off the volcano gods?
there are no volcano gods. this is pagan.
This man has been around awhile and knows what's going on.
The beauty of his plan was no matter. It didn't matter if the brem worked or not.
Tell this to the Icelanders, who have successfully diverted lava flows multiple times.
I guess the Icelandic lava god is ok with that... 🤔
They changed the course of it in the 80s when the volcano was erupting then and it was heading to Hilo and they air striked it to make it go another way. Not saying it should happen but just saying Pele’s or gods will is a bad/lazy excuse. The only good excuse was that the government doesn’t know where the lava will flow if it is diverted.
if you PLAN a channel and berm, you will know where it flows. But they are so superstitious they won't even map a route out.
Bad karma to deflect with a bulldozer the lava flowing with gravity to your property to your neighbors house and property . ☯️
Does anyone know the outcome of this story? Did the wall work? Writing my thesis on lava flow diversions and would love to know...
Catherine Honor
Yes it worked
This is now 2018
N the lava is still behind that wall he built
It just stopped.
I agree with the third female speaker, diverting the flow is pissing on a structure fire. You will make some steam but it won't help.
blastomycosis Right because that stupid lady is an expert on geology and terrafoming. NOT!
come on guys this is nature power no human will win this war only we as human try avoid possibly safe ourselves
ALOHA from Captain Cook....now relocated in Costa Rica.
shalom
ps prey that MADAM PELE will be nice to you all.
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stop getting so pissed, just people want to protect their property from the lava. WHYYYY is it wrong to divert lava that is hot, but it's ok to move it around with a bulldozer after it cools?
This is the same old problem of development in areas that are prone to disasters (like near lava fields and on earthquake faults) and should not be developed in the first place.
The lava will just keep coming and eventually spill over the top of the berm, consume the home, then go on down to the next plot of populated land.
lava is porous and can be bulldozed at some point and cleared away from the berm.
I admire a man who fights to save his land! 🇺🇸
You could build a fire proof wall! Lol It is possible to devert some of it but not all of it! Lol Dont tell me it's not possible! ! Ugh
You cannot fight nature and GOD...people and the evil forces lose..many of you hate love..GOD'S LOVE pure and HOLY...you ridicule and mock..man always thinks he knows best..that's why the whole world and weather etc is a big MESS..A BIG MESS. .
Ha. Funny, all these hysterical, superstitious, semi-illiterate folks. Not saying "diversion" is practical. But, to totally rule it out and say it's not even worth considering-while personifying the lava and speaking of "Pele" in remarkably unscientific terms-is almost humorous. I'm not trying to disrespect people for their beliefs. But neither should they disrespect me for having beliefs that are different. Opinions are like ... well, a part of our anatomy; everybody has one. I think referring to "Pele" as a personal entity is hilarious. Good luck with your superstition.
aloha to those who know about Pele in Hawai'i yes she has been seen by Hawaiians and visitors as well and I can't explain it, but its so eerie but the volcano that opened up last week now many fissures I do believe that Pele is angry at something. I was told if any one does not respect Pele and honor her she will take revenge, and destroy. also told if any Haole that's a Caucasian person, respects her and anyone who offers her bottle of Gin wrapped in taro leaves and throw it to her she will accept it. but rumor is that Pele wants all white people to leave Hawaii big island, she is reclaiming it to herself and her people the Hawaiians only, no one else, ok I cannot predict that to be true or what because I am not Hawaiian to say this for sure.i have lived in Hawaii on the island of Oahu for 9 years and never seen big island, true I miss Hawaii a lot. but If I were anyone on the island I would caution those to be very careful. and do respect Pele and her people of Hawaii.and do what they can to protect lives and neighbors and stand together, I won't try to predict anything, since I am not Hawaiian. I love the Hawaiian people and their paradise, and my heart goes out to all of you there. who are on the island, take care and be careful stay safe
bobby49ist Racist libtard