As I've already addressed this point by two commenters down below who believe this game will be 50 characters or even less at 30+, this game will die within less than 6 months if the total number doesn't add up to around what I've shown here in this video. It will go the same way as the Demon Slayer game whose player base on Steam fell below 1000 players just 4 months after its release and continued to drop even further from that point onward. Bleach has been around much longer and it isn't as popular as Demon Slayer is based on manga sales alone. If the Demon Slayer game fell off quick in part due to a small character roster at launch, what's going to happen to Rebirth of Souls should this studio make the same mistake? These developers have an opportunity to give Bleach the recognition it deserves in the industry. If they launch a game with just 30-50+ characters, it should be deemed as unacceptable by the fanbase. This is a series that's already been concluded and yet they've already cut out major arcs which includes TWBW. This game will be competing with other similar anime fighting games, the most notable one is DB Sparking Zero. The best way to pull in as wide an audience as possible is to incorporate a massive player roster which will offset some of the gameplay complaints. If the devs fail to do that, this game will lose the majority of its player base within mere months. It happened to Hinokami Chronicles. It can happen to this game. Also for future commenters, don't come here posting comments thinking that I'm expecting this game to have this many characters cause I'm not. I'm not stupid. The keyword in the video title is "SHOULD". If I thought it was realistic the game was going to have an excess number of characters, I would've replaced the word "Should" with "Will".
I think 50+ is a bit much. But I agree that the longevity of a game is tied to how many characters a game has especially when we are talking about fighting games. Im hopeful that they will do this game justice in terms of character roster size. We already have seen 8 so far and we have and undetermined amount of months left until release next year. Been wanting a bleach fighting game for a long time and I think this is my fantasy turning into reality
@ibrahimdragon When you have a game like Sparking Zero that has 180 characters at launch versus its competitor, this game which is adapting a series that concluded years ago that's already cutting out major arcs that it's not going to cover then 50+ characters is actually very reasonable. Such a roster size should be demanded by the fanbase. This isn't a traditional fighting game. This is an arena anime fighting game. Other similar games have way more than 50 characters. Bleach has the characters to make a sizeable list as was showcased here in this video. Also, Bandai Namco has never stated what this game's release window will be. This could very well be a 2026 game.
@@Dragonpuncher123 40 is actually very doable considering other bleach games have had up to 32 characters(mind you those games were still missing important characters). So maybe 50 is possible
@@Dragonpuncher123 That's besides the point regarding Sparking Zero. Bleach is a series that concluded years ago. It would be insulting to have a 30, 40, 50 size character roster when the potential to add far more is there. I want the game to do great, not fine. Fine is simply serviceable. Thus far, the gameplay looks repetitive and overly reliant on meter based mechanics, not any different from really any other fighting game. A sizeable character roster will offset the familiarity and other weaknesses with the gameplay. 40 characters would mean massive cuts to certain factions in the series. To me that means diminishing returns.
@@AvidAlchemist I think I speak for most bleach fans when I say that we are just happy to get a new bleach fighting game. From what I've seen so far there's uniqueness in how each character plays so each battle will require different strategies and will feel fresh. I'd be happy with just 40 characters to be honest since I've been wanting this type of game for the longest. DLC is also going to be key to the longevity of the game so we can rest easy knowing that they have the ability to add characters. And finally, since this is the first game in the series we should have reasonable expectations and i dont know that this game will be a failure if it doesn't reach a certain number of characters. It's quality over quantity for me. I know forsure that I'll be buying this on day 1 and will be playing along sparking zero for most of my gaming time
Up to this Monday we've got 17 characters trailer. Considering the game will come out in the early 2025 (March at best), counting every Monday from the next week will get us to a total of 39 character trailers until the end of March. We could even get multiple characters in some special trailers but given the actual rhythm of the trailers I hardly doubt this game will have more than 50 PLAYABLE characters. Still I sense we'll get a large variety of non playable enemies and bosses.
@guisyvacca2736 Early 2025 doesn't inherently mean "by March". Early 2025 could suggest Q1 which is the first 4 months of the year. The pattern of the trailers means nothing considering how random the marketing has been. If the game has less than 60 characters, it's going to be a missed opportunity on the front of fanservice alone plus whatever problems the game likely will have in terms of its content since Bandai Namco for 3 games now has released lazy fighting games based on 3 different franchises, Demon Slayer, Naruto, and Dragon Ball. Also, a large variety of enemies and bosses? This is a fighting game that looks more traditional, not even arena based in its presentation. This isn't an RPG.
@AvidAlchemist we'll see who will be right then. I personally don't like fighting games with huge rosters like SZ because in the end people only chooses the most iconic characters. Just look at SZ, people only use the most op characters in ranked. Why the devs bothered to put characters like Saibaiaman, Frieza soldier or Mr. Satan? It would be cool to have for once a huge roster for Bleach, maybe with Grimmjow, Nel or Barragan fraccions, or even the hollows but, honestly speaking, how many times we would choose them? People will always prefer iconic characters like Ichigo, the Espadas, the Captains, Aizen etc. and my statement is proven by the great number of people who have decided their main will be Zaraki, Ichigo or one other captain. I haven't seen a single player saying like: "Matsumoto" will be my main.
@@giusyvacca2736 So just because the majority will use the more popular characters, the smaller side and supporting characters should be omitted? No. This isn't an Arc System Works game. The more characters the game has, the more diversity the roster has, the greater the longevity the product has overall as long as the content is there to match the roster size. The WWE games are prime examples of having a huge roster size with the content to match. 2K23 and 2K24 are 100 plus hour games. MK 11 and Tekken 8 are two more examples of having a balance between content and roster size.
@SaintIrving Bleach Heat The Soul 7 has over 80 characters in it. That's a PSP game from 2010. This game covers over 300 episodes of the series. This whole "way too many characters" nonsense is bullshit.
While i get the idea, there are a lot of things i have problems with for this character roster predictions, bleach and anime games as a whole shouldnt normalize you being able to play as just whoever you want because their apart of a series, it doesnt make a lot of sense to me to hear some of these characters being in or it being "competition" for sparking zero when its not, bleach has a huge cast of characters and i expect to see most of who shows up within the story the game will be adapting but smaller characters like loly or the arrancar that fought uryu just doesnt make sense to be in thr game caude realistically whos gonna ever play with them? A lot of characters have a move set to fight with yea but so far from every character reveal weve gotten every character has a transformation in some way, we still dont even know if orihime or substitute ichigo could be playable outside of maybe the story mode, i enjoyed the video a bit but wanting it to have a huge roster to "compete" with sparking zero is extremely unrealistic and unnecessary imo
@SoulZERO15 This is not a prediction. Otherwise, I would've titled the video as such. The game will be competing with Sparking Zero regardless. It's already been compared to it numerous times. It's another Shonen anime fighting game based on a popular license. It's going to need to pull from Sparking Zero's audience at least by a certain percentage in order to be successful. There's no escaping that fact. That's just the reality of the situation. The question of "who's ever going to play as this minor character" is quite frankly a ridiculous and pointless endeavor. These games sell mainly by fanservice. The more fanservice these anime games have, the better chance they'll have at increasing their sales margin. Naruto Storm 4 has tons of fanservice, only scored a 79 on Metacritic yet went on to sell 12 million units lifetime because the fans came first. Sparking Zero only has unsurprisingly managed a low 80 score on Metacritic yet will sell 10 million lifetime easily because again, the game was made for the fans. This Rebirth of Souls developer Tamsoft has two choices. Either they develop the game for the hardcore audience and hope that the game will pull in a much larger audience outside the Bleach fanbase knowing that Bleach is far less popular than either Naruto or DBZ or they make the game for the fans, litter the game with fanservice and put the critics on the backburner. The game has a better chance with the second option. This isn't an Arc Systems Works game. Of course the list is unrealistic but it's possible if that's what they're going for is a focusing on the fans first. Bleach Heat The Soul 7, a PSP fighting game from 2010 has over 80 characters. The potential from the source material is there. The number is very much possible considering this is a Bandai Namco backed project. Realistically, the game should have minimum 60 characters on the roster. However, because of the release window, it's likely the game will have far less than even that at I'm predicting between 30-40 characters which will be a huge, missed opportunity.
@valerio2259 Most of them do have a fight actually for one. For two, even if they didn't, it's a videogame. Finally, this is an anime arena fighting game and it covers over 300 episodes of the anime. If most of these characters aren't in the game then it's an automatic fail as I stated in the video. 50 characters is unacceptable and such a low number character roster will likely result in this game underperforming.
@AvidAlchemist I don't think this game will fail at all as most first entries in arena games start with low anyway that includes tenkaichi and ninja storm idk why you are putting sparking zeros expectations on this game like bandai has the same sales expectations for this game, if you look at most roster predictions 50 is the amount that most people are okay with.
@valerio2259 The difference is that Bleach has been around for over 2 decades and has stumbled continuously from bad representations in other media which includes videogames. The series doesn't have a list of strong titles in gaming the way Naruto and DBZ do. They have one chance to get this right, one. A variety of people are already offput by the gameplay. People are already offput by the fact that the game won't cover the entire series and only goes to the end of one major arc in the franchise. Having a strong character roster will offset that. 50 characters represented in over 300 episodes after years of no representation in the gaming space for this IP isn't good enough, especially when the series is far past where the game is stopping. Also, who are "most people"? Who are these people you speak of? Because the people I've seen will be expecting a large roster. The Arrancars alone will take up damn near 50 slots on their own. What you're talking about is literally cutting out numerous characters and fights out of the arcs that the game is going to cover, most of which would clearly come from the Arrancar arcs. Again, that's not acceptable. Then you talk about Bandai Namco having sales expectations. They're not going to reach the numbers they're looking for if they deliver a roster the size of an old PS2 game. One chance, that's what they got. 50 characters isn't enough.
@@AvidAlchemist Well if you you're expect 90 characters you will be very disappointed i got my expectations in set but we'll just have to see what happens when the game releases that's all i gotta say tbh
lol, 91 characters, I don’t see it happening . Happy if I’m wrong but I see maybe 50-60 characters maxed. I will be playing it day one since I missed out on Bleach: Soul Resurrección. We should have a rough number by end of Dec though
@@AvidAlchemist I agree with you, it might even be less unless they start doing multiple characters on Monday. I just want a good bleach game to play. I definitely understand about the characters though. It should be covering all the arcs at least to where it left off in the original anime.
As I've already addressed this point by two commenters down below who believe this game will be 50 characters or even less at 30+, this game will die within less than 6 months if the total number doesn't add up to around what I've shown here in this video. It will go the same way as the Demon Slayer game whose player base on Steam fell below 1000 players just 4 months after its release and continued to drop even further from that point onward. Bleach has been around much longer and it isn't as popular as Demon Slayer is based on manga sales alone. If the Demon Slayer game fell off quick in part due to a small character roster at launch, what's going to happen to Rebirth of Souls should this studio make the same mistake?
These developers have an opportunity to give Bleach the recognition it deserves in the industry. If they launch a game with just 30-50+ characters, it should be deemed as unacceptable by the fanbase. This is a series that's already been concluded and yet they've already cut out major arcs which includes TWBW. This game will be competing with other similar anime fighting games, the most notable one is DB Sparking Zero. The best way to pull in as wide an audience as possible is to incorporate a massive player roster which will offset some of the gameplay complaints. If the devs fail to do that, this game will lose the majority of its player base within mere months. It happened to Hinokami Chronicles. It can happen to this game.
Also for future commenters, don't come here posting comments thinking that I'm expecting this game to have this many characters cause I'm not. I'm not stupid. The keyword in the video title is "SHOULD". If I thought it was realistic the game was going to have an excess number of characters, I would've replaced the word "Should" with "Will".
I think 50+ is a bit much. But I agree that the longevity of a game is tied to how many characters a game has especially when we are talking about fighting games. Im hopeful that they will do this game justice in terms of character roster size. We already have seen 8 so far and we have and undetermined amount of months left until release next year. Been wanting a bleach fighting game for a long time and I think this is my fantasy turning into reality
@ibrahimdragon When you have a game like Sparking Zero that has 180 characters at launch versus its competitor, this game which is adapting a series that concluded years ago that's already cutting out major arcs that it's not going to cover then 50+ characters is actually very reasonable. Such a roster size should be demanded by the fanbase. This isn't a traditional fighting game. This is an arena anime fighting game. Other similar games have way more than 50 characters. Bleach has the characters to make a sizeable list as was showcased here in this video. Also, Bandai Namco has never stated what this game's release window will be. This could very well be a 2026 game.
@@Dragonpuncher123 40 is actually very doable considering other bleach games have had up to 32 characters(mind you those games were still missing important characters). So maybe 50 is possible
@@Dragonpuncher123 That's besides the point regarding Sparking Zero. Bleach is a series that concluded years ago. It would be insulting to have a 30, 40, 50 size character roster when the potential to add far more is there.
I want the game to do great, not fine. Fine is simply serviceable. Thus far, the gameplay looks repetitive and overly reliant on meter based mechanics, not any different from really any other fighting game. A sizeable character roster will offset the familiarity and other weaknesses with the gameplay. 40 characters would mean massive cuts to certain factions in the series. To me that means diminishing returns.
@@AvidAlchemist I think I speak for most bleach fans when I say that we are just happy to get a new bleach fighting game. From what I've seen so far there's uniqueness in how each character plays so each battle will require different strategies and will feel fresh. I'd be happy with just 40 characters to be honest since I've been wanting this type of game for the longest. DLC is also going to be key to the longevity of the game so we can rest easy knowing that they have the ability to add characters. And finally, since this is the first game in the series we should have reasonable expectations and i dont know that this game will be a failure if it doesn't reach a certain number of characters. It's quality over quantity for me. I know forsure that I'll be buying this on day 1 and will be playing along sparking zero for most of my gaming time
This is by far the most hopeful list I've seen. Unfortunately, I think the roster will be closer to 30 - 50 characters.
30-50 seems like a reasonable base roster size. Either way bleach fans should support this game so we can get TYBW characters
Up to this Monday we've got 17 characters trailer. Considering the game will come out in the early 2025 (March at best), counting every Monday from the next week will get us to a total of 39 character trailers until the end of March. We could even get multiple characters in some special trailers but given the actual rhythm of the trailers I hardly doubt this game will have more than 50 PLAYABLE characters. Still I sense we'll get a large variety of non playable enemies and bosses.
@guisyvacca2736 Early 2025 doesn't inherently mean "by March". Early 2025 could suggest Q1 which is the first 4 months of the year. The pattern of the trailers means nothing considering how random the marketing has been. If the game has less than 60 characters, it's going to be a missed opportunity on the front of fanservice alone plus whatever problems the game likely will have in terms of its content since Bandai Namco for 3 games now has released lazy fighting games based on 3 different franchises, Demon Slayer, Naruto, and Dragon Ball.
Also, a large variety of enemies and bosses? This is a fighting game that looks more traditional, not even arena based in its presentation. This isn't an RPG.
@AvidAlchemist we'll see who will be right then. I personally don't like fighting games with huge rosters like SZ because in the end people only chooses the most iconic characters. Just look at SZ, people only use the most op characters in ranked. Why the devs bothered to put characters like Saibaiaman, Frieza soldier or Mr. Satan?
It would be cool to have for once a huge roster for Bleach, maybe with Grimmjow, Nel or Barragan fraccions, or even the hollows but, honestly speaking, how many times we would choose them? People will always prefer iconic characters like Ichigo, the Espadas, the Captains, Aizen etc. and my statement is proven by the great number of people who have decided their main will be Zaraki, Ichigo or one other captain.
I haven't seen a single player saying like: "Matsumoto" will be my main.
@@giusyvacca2736 So just because the majority will use the more popular characters, the smaller side and supporting characters should be omitted? No. This isn't an Arc System Works game. The more characters the game has, the more diversity the roster has, the greater the longevity the product has overall as long as the content is there to match the roster size. The WWE games are prime examples of having a huge roster size with the content to match. 2K23 and 2K24 are 100 plus hour games. MK 11 and Tekken 8 are two more examples of having a balance between content and roster size.
Way too many character for a base game.. Good effort though.
@SaintIrving Bleach Heat The Soul 7 has over 80 characters in it. That's a PSP game from 2010. This game covers over 300 episodes of the series. This whole "way too many characters" nonsense is bullshit.
While i get the idea, there are a lot of things i have problems with for this character roster predictions, bleach and anime games as a whole shouldnt normalize you being able to play as just whoever you want because their apart of a series, it doesnt make a lot of sense to me to hear some of these characters being in or it being "competition" for sparking zero when its not, bleach has a huge cast of characters and i expect to see most of who shows up within the story the game will be adapting but smaller characters like loly or the arrancar that fought uryu just doesnt make sense to be in thr game caude realistically whos gonna ever play with them? A lot of characters have a move set to fight with yea but so far from every character reveal weve gotten every character has a transformation in some way, we still dont even know if orihime or substitute ichigo could be playable outside of maybe the story mode, i enjoyed the video a bit but wanting it to have a huge roster to "compete" with sparking zero is extremely unrealistic and unnecessary imo
@SoulZERO15 This is not a prediction. Otherwise, I would've titled the video as such. The game will be competing with Sparking Zero regardless. It's already been compared to it numerous times. It's another Shonen anime fighting game based on a popular license. It's going to need to pull from Sparking Zero's audience at least by a certain percentage in order to be successful. There's no escaping that fact. That's just the reality of the situation.
The question of "who's ever going to play as this minor character" is quite frankly a ridiculous and pointless endeavor. These games sell mainly by fanservice. The more fanservice these anime games have, the better chance they'll have at increasing their sales margin.
Naruto Storm 4 has tons of fanservice, only scored a 79 on Metacritic yet went on to sell 12 million units lifetime because the fans came first. Sparking Zero only has unsurprisingly managed a low 80 score on Metacritic yet will sell 10 million lifetime easily because again, the game was made for the fans. This Rebirth of Souls developer Tamsoft has two choices. Either they develop the game for the hardcore audience and hope that the game will pull in a much larger audience outside the Bleach fanbase knowing that Bleach is far less popular than either Naruto or DBZ or they make the game for the fans, litter the game with fanservice and put the critics on the backburner. The game has a better chance with the second option. This isn't an Arc Systems Works game.
Of course the list is unrealistic but it's possible if that's what they're going for is a focusing on the fans first. Bleach Heat The Soul 7, a PSP fighting game from 2010 has over 80 characters. The potential from the source material is there. The number is very much possible considering this is a Bandai Namco backed project. Realistically, the game should have minimum 60 characters on the roster. However, because of the release window, it's likely the game will have far less than even that at I'm predicting between 30-40 characters which will be a huge, missed opportunity.
Most of these guys don't even fight this not a tenkaichi game lol this list is generous
I expect 50 at most
@valerio2259 Most of them do have a fight actually for one. For two, even if they didn't, it's a videogame. Finally, this is an anime arena fighting game and it covers over 300 episodes of the anime. If most of these characters aren't in the game then it's an automatic fail as I stated in the video. 50 characters is unacceptable and such a low number character roster will likely result in this game underperforming.
@AvidAlchemist I don't think this game will fail at all as most first entries in arena games start with low anyway that includes tenkaichi and ninja storm idk why you are putting sparking zeros expectations on this game like bandai has the same sales expectations for this game, if you look at most roster predictions 50 is the amount that most people are okay with.
@valerio2259 The difference is that Bleach has been around for over 2 decades and has stumbled continuously from bad representations in other media which includes videogames. The series doesn't have a list of strong titles in gaming the way Naruto and DBZ do. They have one chance to get this right, one. A variety of people are already offput by the gameplay. People are already offput by the fact that the game won't cover the entire series and only goes to the end of one major arc in the franchise. Having a strong character roster will offset that. 50 characters represented in over 300 episodes after years of no representation in the gaming space for this IP isn't good enough, especially when the series is far past where the game is stopping.
Also, who are "most people"? Who are these people you speak of? Because the people I've seen will be expecting a large roster. The Arrancars alone will take up damn near 50 slots on their own. What you're talking about is literally cutting out numerous characters and fights out of the arcs that the game is going to cover, most of which would clearly come from the Arrancar arcs. Again, that's not acceptable. Then you talk about Bandai Namco having sales expectations. They're not going to reach the numbers they're looking for if they deliver a roster the size of an old PS2 game. One chance, that's what they got. 50 characters isn't enough.
@@AvidAlchemist Well if you you're expect 90 characters you will be very disappointed i got my expectations in set but we'll just have to see what happens when the game releases that's all i gotta say tbh
lol, 91 characters, I don’t see it happening . Happy if I’m wrong but I see maybe 50-60 characters maxed. I will be playing it day one since I missed out on Bleach: Soul Resurrección. We should have a rough number by end of Dec though
@brucejohnson5914 Of course 91 isn't going to happen. The minimum should be 60. I'm expecting far less now because of the release window.
@@AvidAlchemist I agree with you, it might even be less unless they start doing multiple characters on Monday. I just want a good bleach game to play. I definitely understand about the characters though. It should be covering all the arcs at least to where it left off in the original anime.
Can't wait to see tengen myo
actually its called animu!
I saw a hint at Ichigo from the Hell chapter! I think we're going to the tybw arc