Nothing improves property value like a rail line in your front yard. And the never ending dread that someday a box car is going to smash through your bedroom wall. The pleasant sound of a 175 decibel horn also adds special ambience to small town living.
As a kid in the sixties I remember the years before the Lehigh Valley R.R. was on it's way out. The roadbed wasn't maintained and as time wore on the "safe" speed got slower and the rocking angle became greater up to an estimated 10 degrees each way. Sitting at a crossing in a school bus we'd watch to see if they would tip over.
This sure brings back fond memories of railfanning when I was growing up in the 1960s and 70s. I still remember trains rocking and swaying through Rochelle, Illinois on the old Chicago and North Western tracks, and moving quite a bit faster than in this video. Amazed we never saw one toppling off! Thankfully, railroading has since gotten far better (and much more boring!) than it was back then. Those tracks are now owned by UP, are welded rail and in great shape, and carry at least ten times as much traffic.
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Nothing wrong with 90 year old tracks if they are well maintained, most main line's in this country are that old! Not quite almost rocking off, seen a lot worse, and for those tracks, that train is moving pretty good.
Ummm. . . We've all seen worse, I'm sure. But even so those rails definitely need attention. No crossing guards either, encourages road users to take their chances!! Even at 10mph that train ain't gonna stop!!!
Surely that’s a derailment waiting to happen. Track is reminiscent of a cash strapped heritage line. Wouldn’t catch me anywhere near a train using it. Just found your channel am subscribing. All the best. Mick.🇬🇧
@@TheNemosdaddy Really. Perhaps that is the reason I’m seeing so many derailments in the US of A. I would be concerned if any of our heritage tracks were in that condition over here. However I’ll take your word for it. All the best. Mick🇬🇧
@@mickboakes7023 There isn't "so many derailments" here in the US. It's just the prevalence of social media showing them. I can tell you in the early days of my career we were 100 times as busy with derailments and line of road issues than we are today. Back then though you'd only know about it through local tv reporting or the newspaper, unless it was something absolutely huge that caught national media attention.
With some track flexing and some rigid (at road crossings) something is going to go 'ping' and it is possibly the rigid track. The track ties look, um, weathered.
You could certainly see the effect of those dipped joints! They certainly cause some roll, and the staggered joints cause harmonic motion to start which can lead to a derailment. Where there's been some maintenance done further along the track the cars ride much better. The crossings being firmer show just how bad some of the joints are! The track climbs onto the road and falls away again on the other side. It's a really good video to show to both track maintenance guys and the railroad bosses, so they can justify the cost of the maintenance budget! Some of the rails are poor, but if well maintained and with a few ties replaced rails over 100 years old with plenty of meat left on the head can still carry the traffic.
@@therailroadtiespiker Yes I have seen various videos of track and the derailment a few months ago! Interesting to see they seem to have learned a little from it. Probably because the savings on maintenance were a lot less than the cost of the derailment. I reckon the cost of repairs and the cutting up of several grain cars will be a salutory lesson for the railroad. Their insurance costs will have rocketed. Thanks for your excellent videos they help keep me sane in my retirement! I had 35 years of work on the tracks as a civil engineer in the UK so it's good to see todays trains at work across the world. I started by watching Jaw Tooth and Jason Asselin as they covered the ares where I had relatives but I also watch a few other channels, yours being another favourite of mine. Thanks again for the quality videos you produce!
Stick rail is almost a lost art these days. And they are almost always staggered. But there's nothing here that some ties and ballast and one good tamping will not fix. This is at the least a secondary track. For all it's ills now NS has some of the best track gangs I've ever seen. Now if management let's them do the job is the question. The problem with downgraded track is that they cut back on maintenance.
Our tracks are maintained to the class they are designated as. This goes for every railroad in the country whether it's a shortline, regional or class-1. We know what is good and what is bad. Just because the public thinks it's bad doesn't mean that it is bad as long as it conforms to FRA standards on Class dedication of track.
When I visited Kokomo Grain they had two GE 45 tonners. One was PURDUE (university) in navy blue. The other was red and lettered IU (Indiana University). Both in original paint I believe.That was over twenty years ago.
It appears that with the location and with that probably being the only track going where it goes, it is cheaper and less hassle to just slow the trains down when going through there than to shut the line down for a week or more to do the repairs needed to get it fixed. It will probably stay that way until something bad happens or gets to a point where the trains can't go through faster than 2mph
The house on the curve is only about 20 feet from the tracks and the way the wheels squeal around the curve it's got to be ear piercing inside the house.
Whole lot needs replacing with 132lb CWR on concrete sleepers. Google maps indicate that most of the tracks within Kokomo city limits require replacement - if they are still in use!
how annoying having that old train blasting its horn in front of your home… Just looks like a bunch of worn-out infrastructure. What a stupid location for the train tracks I would not want to be anywhere there
There is not a country in Europe that would allow this lack of maintenance to continue, the freight companies should have a duty of care to protect the public. It`s only in the US with its third-world attitude to rail safety and inconvenience to the general public this is allowed to occur. The freight companies seem to be allowed to operate with complete impunity. They must have friends in high places.
Is that rail even up to code ? Nope. No welded rail or continual rail. Ok, I may be female, but rail held together with fishplate and rusty bolts is ancient technology.
We need to be careful with the reactions here because of the telephoto effect, which makes distant objects appear closer together than they really are.
Seriously, that's like 10 minutes of my life that ain't gonna return.....you want bad track, when in I was a conductor at the Illinois Railnet I'd say this compared to what we had would be 35 mph.....even after CN took over my other former employer Chicago Central our branches were alot worse.
I like your intro. Your channel was recommended by Jaw Tooth.
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Nothing improves property value like a rail line in your front yard. And the never ending dread that someday a box car is going to smash through your bedroom wall. The pleasant sound of a 175 decibel horn also adds special ambience to small town living.
The house down on the curve is only about 20 feet from the tracks
The tracks were there before the houses...
at least they are not oil tankers that come through a lot of small towns
As a kid in the sixties I remember the years before the Lehigh Valley R.R. was on it's way out. The roadbed wasn't maintained and as time wore on the "safe" speed got slower and the rocking angle became greater up to an estimated 10 degrees each way. Sitting at a crossing in a school bus we'd watch to see if they would tip over.
I'm glad this railroad is still in use!
Yes I’m waiting for the grain trains to pick up again. We haven’t seen much action these past few months
This sure brings back fond memories of railfanning when I was growing up in the 1960s and 70s. I still remember trains rocking and swaying through Rochelle, Illinois on the old Chicago and North Western tracks, and moving quite a bit faster than in this video. Amazed we never saw one toppling off! Thankfully, railroading has since gotten far better (and much more boring!) than it was back then. Those tracks are now owned by UP, are welded rail and in great shape, and carry at least ten times as much traffic.
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Thank you and thank you Jawtooth for the big shout out
Jaw Tooth sent me over. Glad I stopped by. Good vid.
New subscriber here.. Jaw Tooth sent me.
Good video, that grain train sure was a rocking and rolling lol
Yes all the way to Marion. Lol
Nice one Huey (piano) Smith. 😁
Awesome railfan video of a a big street running rock-n-rolling big-power NS manifest in Kokomo, IN. I enjoyed it, thank you.
Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed the video
That is one nice sounding horn
Yes they were. Thanks for watching
Great video, love the old stick rail, lots of joints and dips. And this one's almost a street runner makes it all the better...
Yes when they pulled the ties up a few weeks ago they had to dig out a lot of pavement it was quite a task
some of that rail definitely needs some love ! nice video
They're starting to take care of them thanks for watching
Jaw tooth talked about you in his last video. Those tracks need to be somewhat maintained.
Yes over the past few weeks they have been working on them I took some video today of there progress on the tracks.
@@therailroadtiespiker awesome thanks for the information.
@@therailroadtiespiker Oh there fine for 20 more years LOL, up here in Montana my local subdivision has rails from 1923 & 1913.
Business is good rail that is...! Fun Thanks
At 01:07 where the on-screen text mentions "TP&W," that's all that was needed to explain this track condition for me.
Nothing wrong with 90 year old tracks if they are well maintained, most main line's in this country are that old! Not quite almost rocking off, seen a lot worse, and for those tracks, that train is moving pretty good.
Yes but the track in this area are not heavy enough for the trains they take over them.
I worked for CN for thirty years I have seen a lot worse.
Mainline rail is replaced a lot, like very often compared to some branch lines.
Ummm. . . We've all seen worse, I'm sure. But even so those rails definitely need attention. No crossing guards either, encourages road users to take their chances!! Even at 10mph that train ain't gonna stop!!!
It derailed two months later about 20 miles from were I filmed this train.
Those ties don't look like they are in very good shape either.
I noticed it was right at the Crossing probably needs New Ties and Some more Ballast
Reminds me of the Penn Central days with the cars wobbling all over the place.
Those Penn Central track horrible ...didnt spend a dime on maint and still went bankrupt
Wow that was a very long train thumbs up subscribe done
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Boy, that consist looks like the original 'ragtag fugitive fleet'! Lol!
Surely that’s a derailment waiting to happen. Track is reminiscent of a cash strapped heritage line. Wouldn’t catch me anywhere near a train using it. Just found your channel am subscribing. All the best. Mick.🇬🇧
Nothing wrong with this track since it’s freight only.
IT'S NOT. It's fine, for it being 10 mph excepted track.
@@TheNemosdaddy Really. Perhaps that is the reason I’m seeing so many derailments in the US of A. I would be concerned if any of our heritage tracks were in that condition over here. However I’ll take your word for it. All the best. Mick🇬🇧
@@mickboakes7023 There isn't "so many derailments" here in the US. It's just the prevalence of social media showing them. I can tell you in the early days of my career we were 100 times as busy with derailments and line of road issues than we are today. Back then though you'd only know about it through local tv reporting or the newspaper, unless it was something absolutely huge that caught national media attention.
Awesome video. A lot of rocken and rollen going on 👍👍
Thank you… unfortunately they have been working on the tracks and now they don’t rock back and forth. Lol
The rails might be better made than the newer ones.
That sway!!
With some track flexing and some rigid (at road crossings) something is going to go 'ping' and it is possibly the rigid track. The track ties look, um, weathered.
You could certainly see the effect of those dipped joints! They certainly cause some roll, and the staggered joints cause harmonic motion to start which can lead to a derailment. Where there's been some maintenance done further along the track the cars ride much better. The crossings being firmer show just how bad some of the joints are! The track climbs onto the road and falls away again on the other side. It's a really good video to show to both track maintenance guys and the railroad bosses, so they can justify the cost of the maintenance budget! Some of the rails are poor, but if well maintained and with a few ties replaced rails over 100 years old with plenty of meat left on the head can still carry the traffic.
Have you watched my video with them replacing the ties it shows how bad they were. Thanks for watching my video.
@@therailroadtiespiker Yes I have seen various videos of track and the derailment a few months ago! Interesting to see they seem to have learned a little from it. Probably because the savings on maintenance were a lot less than the cost of the derailment. I reckon the cost of repairs and the cutting up of several grain cars will be a salutory lesson for the railroad. Their insurance costs will have rocketed.
Thanks for your excellent videos they help keep me sane in my retirement! I had 35 years of work on the tracks as a civil engineer in the UK so it's good to see todays trains at work across the world. I started by watching Jaw Tooth and Jason Asselin as they covered the ares where I had relatives but I also watch a few other channels, yours being another favourite of mine.
Thanks again for the quality videos you produce!
@@rodsmith3911 thank you for taking some time to watch my videos.
Stick rail is almost a lost art these days. And they are almost always staggered. But there's nothing here that some ties and ballast and one good tamping will not fix. This is at the least a secondary track. For all it's ills now NS has some of the best track gangs I've ever seen. Now if management let's them do the job is the question. The problem with downgraded track is that they cut back on maintenance.
Our tracks are maintained to the class they are designated as. This goes for every railroad in the country whether it's a shortline, regional or class-1. We know what is good and what is bad. Just because the public thinks it's bad doesn't mean that it is bad as long as it conforms to FRA standards on Class dedication of track.
Thanks spike, what a turn at the beginning wow .
Yes the wheels let you know how sharp it is.
That is certainly a bumpy ride.
Yes it is reminds me of the 60 and 70 on PC
I was shocked to see more rust than graffiti, I guess with all the inflation, spray paint cost must be out the roof.
Cape cod has some tracks dating from 1925
Just to think what has gone over them tracks.
which ns district do you film?
The Fort Wayne district and the Lafayette district.
When I visited Kokomo Grain they had two GE 45 tonners. One was PURDUE (university) in navy blue. The other was red and lettered IU (Indiana University). Both in original paint I believe.That was over twenty years ago.
They still have the Purdue GE and another one that's sitting up by the shop.
Last time I seen a sway like that. Granny needed a hip replacement.
Excellent brooo🦺👌🏼😎
Thank you Francisco
Just subscribed to your channel....
guess they think its cheaper to clean up a derail, than to fix bad order track!
The tracks must have been laid in 1932!
Hi, new subscriber here. I thought the tracks were awful, right at the beginning of video especially. Hope they will get repaired soon 😯
They have been working for the past few weeks on this section of track will be posting some updates on it. Thanks for subscribing
The track is fine for 15 mph
Ahhhh , good for another 100,000.
Wow. Wondering what that does to the couplers Thanks for the show. From New York
It appears that with the location and with that probably being the only track going where it goes, it is cheaper and less hassle to just slow the trains down when going through there than to shut the line down for a week or more to do the repairs needed to get it fixed.
It will probably stay that way until something bad happens or gets to a point where the trains can't go through faster than 2mph
You have a good point.
They are just testing the trains suspension.
Imagine trying to get some daytime sleep in that neighborhood!
The house on the curve is only about 20 feet from the tracks and the way the wheels squeal around the curve it's got to be ear piercing inside the house.
The train ignored all the stop signs
Those tracks needs to be replaced with 1,600ft rails....staggered, so the joints don't line up
They have been working for the last few weeks on the street run portion I can't wait to see a train go over it and see how much it changes.
👍 Where is this?
Kokomo Indiana off the Marion district.
Aged, jointed-rail blues. That's why ribbon rail works best!
Yep pulling a train this size yup them rails definitely should be replaced asap. It would only be a matter of time before a train is on the ground.
Nice video. Were any of these ties or rails replaced this summer in the project you videoed?
The ties were replaced on this section of tracks. I'm wanting to catch a train going over them now.
Be careful little squirrel. 🤪 1:34
I guess those in charge of the tracks are waiting for an accident.
They did about two months after I filmed this I actually got the whole derailment and clean up videos on my channel.
Waiting for the next accident to start the repairs 😂😂😂😂
They have been working hard on this stretch of track and is looking a lot better.
Whole lot needs replacing with 132lb CWR on concrete sleepers. Google maps indicate that most of the tracks within Kokomo city limits require replacement - if they are still in use!
They are doing major repairs to the track as we speak will be posting updates.
Poor drainage will get you every time.If it can't drain it will rock.
how annoying having that old train blasting its horn in front of your home… Just looks like a bunch of worn-out infrastructure. What a stupid location for the train tracks I would not want to be anywhere there
The tracks were there first
I'll bet they got those houses cheap.
Y did the squirrel cross the tracks?
90-year-old tracks? That would have been built during the Great Depression.
Yes 1925 in this section so almost a hundred years old.
How many cars were behind the locos?
They should upgrade the rails 🚈 or its get derailed.
Almost rocking off would be if you can read the car number on the end of the top of the car as it travels toward you.
Very true but they did rock themselves off the tracks about two months after I took this video.
@@therailroadtiespiker Rockoff speed, depending on type of equipment, is usually between 15 & 25 mph.
10 mph usually protects against rock off derailments but not against spread gage or rail rollover.
Wow 👍
The tracks need to be replaced before they have a bad derailment
They need better maintenance, this is an accident waiting to happen.
They have been working on the tracks for the past few weeks and they're looking a lot better new ties and they've replaced some track.
It is a crying shame at the state of disrepair of the tracks. Third world countries have better tracks now.
Wow. How often do trains come through there?
Two or three times a week
@@therailroadtiespiker 💀 dang, do you know the symbols/destinations?
@@RH1N0______13 somewhere down in the Carolinas I believe.
Would this be street running?
Well it's on the street
nice
How many billions did NS gross last year, i'll bet this will be discontinued before it gets maintained
Pioneer Lines be like:
There is not a country in Europe that would allow this lack of maintenance to continue, the freight companies should have a duty of care to protect the public. It`s only in the US with its third-world attitude to rail safety and inconvenience to the general public this is allowed to occur. The freight companies seem to be allowed to operate with complete impunity. They must have friends in high places.
Third world attitude and still have the best freight railroad network in the world. What you said is just hyperbole.
No respect from the drivers or the squirrel.
Yes the squirrel was a brave one and the guy that turned in front of the train there was a block in-between but still was pushing it.
It looks like they need to do sone work on those track's
Yes they do….
Is that rail even up to code ? Nope. No welded rail or continual rail. Ok, I may be female, but rail held together with fishplate and rusty bolts is ancient technology.
3td. World Infrastructure 🤐😨
how many railroad ties are completely rotted. why don't they repair that section so I was not disaster
They have been over the past few weeks I will be posting a update on this section of track
they're going to wait until a Train derailed before they replace those tracks, I just hope there's nobody around when the train falls
There's a coal mine owned railroad in South western PA that has much better maintained track than this.
Them tracks are stupid. Especially in a residential area
@James SS I'm aware of this. Wondered why anyone would build that close even back then.
I guess advertising something worse than it is will draw views. There is nothing here that constitutes to anything close to rocking off the tracks.
We need to be careful with the reactions here because of the telephoto effect, which makes distant objects appear closer together than they really are.
yeah thanks for the disclaimer everything needs a disclaimer. they should just ban railfanning entire
sorry but not quite.... I'd give you a clickbaitish warning...
Excepted track. Restricted to 10 mph. Its fine. Definitely not going to "rock off the rails". You foamers are so dramatic.
Seriously, that's like 10 minutes of my life that ain't gonna return.....you want bad track, when in I was a conductor at the Illinois Railnet I'd say this compared to what we had would be 35 mph.....even after CN took over my other former employer Chicago Central our branches were alot worse.
They are just testing the trains suspension.