QNAP QuTS Hero NAS Setup Guide

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
  • Review of the New QNAP TS-h886 ZFS 6-Bay NAS Drive - Worth your Data? nascompares.com/2020/08/13/qn...
    Summer 2020 has been a remarkably busy period for network-attached storage. We have seen numerous high-profile releases appear on our radar and be released quite quickly, in efforts to bring the latest generation of hardware are to businesses that are beginning to re-open since the peak periods of COVID. However not all the solutions that we have seen in the last couple of months arrived out of the blue and today's NAS is potentially one of my favourite solutions of the year. Originally revealed at the start of 2020, it now arrives with the 2019 previewed ZFS file system, QuTS Hero, inside. Today I want to talk about the brand new TS-h886 QNAP NAS, what makes it especially different from everything we've seen before and what cool features have they included inside. This is not a NAS for the faint-hearted, home user or non-tech buyer - the TS-h886 is a high-end enterprise-grade desktop solution that is designed to change the way many users think about their backups and what exactly is an acceptable norm. At just over £1,800, this is not a light investment and unless you think you're going to take advantage of the large array of hardware advantages inside, this may not be one for you. So, let's get our hands dirty and get to grips with the brand new ZFZ TS-h886 NAS and see if it deserves your data?
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  • @MJSkavioke
    @MJSkavioke 3 роки тому +1

    Great and informative video. My old Synology broke down and your video on the qnap tvs-h1288x got me sold. I always thought Synology's interface looked good, but QNAP is at a whole different level. Like what I'm seeing so far.

  • @blakebrothers
    @blakebrothers 3 роки тому

    Very helpful, thanks so much!

  • @asdf51501
    @asdf51501 3 роки тому

    I just ordered that exact NAS yesterday. Now I have to research the drives I’m going to put in, what expansion cards, how much capacity and so on and so forth. It should make for a great Plex server along with handling backups, ISO images, and various other things. Good stuff!

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  3 роки тому +1

      Nice! Come back here in a week or two and tell us how you are finding it buddy

    • @asdf51501
      @asdf51501 3 роки тому

      @@nascompares I will certainly try to do that. I checked the compatibility list and bought 2x 1TB 970 EVOs, 2x WD Red 2.5” SSDs, and 6x 6TB WD Pro 3.5 HDDs. Still have to decide how much RAM and which expansion cards to get. Part of me wants that TVS-h1288 (or whatever it’s called that has the 6 core Xeon), but do I “need” it? Probably not. I wouldn’t plan to run more than maybe one VM on it anyway as I have PCs that can do that muluch more effectively.

  • @henriksimonsen3899
    @henriksimonsen3899 2 роки тому

    Super good presentation
    But that leaves me with a few questions:
    Which one of the two OSs is best around enterprise security?
    Which one of them makes the greatest demands on hardware?
    Which of the two would you recommend based on your experience with a TS-X73A series?

  • @user-ef5rn3um4q
    @user-ef5rn3um4q 10 місяців тому

    Great video that helped me with my new TVS-h674. I have a question about Cache. I installed 2x1TB NVMe drives in RAID1 for the OS and Apps only. Then I have 3-1/2" drives (2x16TB) RAID1 for data and video. I have extra 2-1/2" SSD's (2x1TB) that I'd like to use for Cache if that helps performance. I'm running PLEX and QVR Pro with their own drives. I don't care about data loss on Video Surveillance. Can these SSD's be used for Cache to help with any performance? The rest of my work is minor read/write of business and backup to another QNAP.

  • @krisvanparijs6342
    @krisvanparijs6342 Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @matthewesunderland
    @matthewesunderland 3 роки тому

    @nascompares ... Great Videos!! Does QuTS Hero support QTeir Auto-Teiring? ... I am an IT Pro (CCIE/VCP) and I want to use 2 NVMe in Raid 1 for read and write cache with QNAP PCIe riser card ... SATA WD RED SSD in RAID 5 and SATA WD GOLD in RAID 6. Does my SATA SSD Storage have to be separate from SATA HDD storage with QuTS Hero, or can it be combined into one large storage (note: I want to say volume, but there are no volumes) where the NAS makes the decision on whether to put it in SSD or HDD? I know this is supported on older QTS. .... Use cases are mixed: 4k video editing, plenty of iSCSI tragets for VMs/vSphere, SMB shares, and a PLEX server. Thank you so much!

  • @MooTaters
    @MooTaters Рік тому

    I noticed, you may want to re-check the cache RAID(read/write is not RAID 1), note how it handles read and write cache and what it claims in disk space space for each below the list of drives. Also QNAP's own documentation pretty much tells you all dual(or more) SSD configurations are striped(RAID 0) if doing read and ZIL synchronous I/O write log(write cache) together.

  • @adrianocastaldini
    @adrianocastaldini Місяць тому

    Doubt: the LAN LED on my TS-873A's frontal panel is OFF when I use only the LAN port of an expansion card (the LAN LED on the frontal panel turns ON only when I'm using the embedded LAN ports). Is it a normal behavior? Or instead the LAN LED should be ON even when only expansion port is in use? Thanks in advance.

  • @user-gn8br8nw4d
    @user-gn8br8nw4d 3 роки тому +1

    How would the setup work if you had the nvme drives installed?
    Thank you for the great videos!

  • @MJSkavioke
    @MJSkavioke 3 роки тому

    By the way: if I installed the system on storage pool 1 ssd raid 1, will there any benefit at akk to use the m.2 caching on folders Public and homes ?

  • @J-Train_Fit-Travl_Juice-Tender
    @J-Train_Fit-Travl_Juice-Tender 2 роки тому

    This idea that ZFS doesnt allow adding to raid or pool later confuses me as I am new to Nas, and configuring Raid, Storage Pools, and Volumes.
    So if I wanted to expand or add on a different drive or type of drive, does that mean it has to be set up in the original set up of the NAS? Is there videos that would clarify how to do this down the road should I want to expand capacity in storage?
    I also read where some drives like sas and sata cant be raided together?
    Didnt realize there was so much planning in a NAS set up.
    Can someone clarify how to avoid set up pitfalls?

  • @timnickname3530
    @timnickname3530 2 роки тому +1

    Would a TS-673A be ok switching to QuTS hero? (8GB RAM, Ryzen cpu)

  • @blkrazorback1970
    @blkrazorback1970 Рік тому

    Can you delete ssd from volume to use in cache? If so what are steps on qts?

  • @beachboy1219
    @beachboy1219 2 роки тому

    If I may ask. Need to swap to Hero from QTS.
    I just installed Qts in error (totally missed the "switch OS"), JUST NOW. I have no data on the disks. Ive only set up user and startrd Raid Sync (fir 1st time).
    How would I swap over to QUTS Hero. I have a TS-473A- 8GB, 2× 500 GB M.2 NVME (Samsung Evo Plus)

  • @ianjackson4018
    @ianjackson4018 10 місяців тому

    Do ssd or M2 nvme cache drives have to be the same size?

  • @MasterTheWorkflow
    @MasterTheWorkflow 3 роки тому +4

    Great help. Would love to see a video on how to optimize this setup for 4K video editing. Thanks again!

  • @JazJonFL
    @JazJonFL Рік тому +1

    I have the new QNAP TVS-h674-i5-32G-US 6 Bay on order. 4 WD 20TB Red Pro drives, and 2 SAMSUNG 980 PRO 500GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSDs. My plan was to use the 2 NVMe SDDs for cache. (is it better to use them for the first storage/system pool instead/) Should and Can I dedicate just 1 (instead of 2) to cache and the remaining second one to the System drive? Or since I have 2 bays free, should I add a 2.5 SSD there for the System pool. (does the system pool work on one drive or does it need two drives?) I plan on setting up RAID 5 from what I'm reading I think. Bit of a newbie, coming from a Windows Stablebit Drivepool setup.

    • @garyrds
      @garyrds 10 місяців тому

      I have the same unit and installed 2x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe in RAID1 for the OS and Apps Pool only. It's super fast!

    • @clipperbob960
      @clipperbob960 Місяць тому

      One can’t make logical recommendations without first knowing what the use case is along with the requirements. Best answer is to test each way and compare the results. If you use write cache it requires 2 drives in raid 1. Not sure with qnap but with synology if you loose both drives your whole storage pool is gone and you are off to data recovery center. Minimum get a big UPS, verify it is connected to nas, adjust the settings, then test it for functionality. My observation is your bottleneck will be the network connection.

  • @RRMIAMI
    @RRMIAMI 3 роки тому

    Would you recommend putting the OS on SSD drives for the QNAP TVS-h1288X?

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, you don't HAVE TO, but you will both see and FEEL the difference tbh.

    • @RafRafaRafRafa
      @RafRafaRafRafa 3 роки тому

      @@nascompares just saw that too late :( any idea if it's possible to move the system files to an ssd volume after ? I already installed and copied data on HDD and I'd like to avoid to redo everything...

    • @RRMIAMI
      @RRMIAMI 3 роки тому

      @@nascompares Love your videos. Thanks for putting the time in and helping all of us.

  • @TheLDunn1
    @TheLDunn1 3 роки тому

    Would like to see a setup video for setting up direct PC connection between QNAP NAS & a Win 10 PC with two+ Ethernet cables (no switch)
    I seem to be struggling with this.

    • @asdf51501
      @asdf51501 3 роки тому

      Are you using a “crossover” style Ethernet cable? Standard cables are meant for device to switch connections, and device to device connections are handled by crossover cables (different pin out configuration).

  • @degsiemcdegface459
    @degsiemcdegface459 3 роки тому +1

    "A man with a watch knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure."

  • @fvheel
    @fvheel 2 роки тому

    I did install QuTS Hero on my QNap nas. That went without any problems.
    Now every time i try to create a shared folder i get this message:
    "Thin prrovisioning does not support shared folder/LUNs guarateed snapshot space. To ensure that there is always sufficient space for snapshots, use thick provisioning and configure guaranteed snapshot space. Do yoou wannt to cotinue using thiin provisioniing?"
    I don't understand this message. For me this is conflictiing information.
    - "Thin prrovisioning does not support shared folder/LUNs guarateed snapshot space."
    This does say that when a thin shared folder is empty, then there is no room for snapshots.
    Thin provisioning DOES support snnapshots. The question is: HOW when there is no room for snapshots???
    - "To ensure that there is always sufficient space for snapshots, use thick provisioning and configure guaranteed snapshot space."
    So to use snapshots you MUST use thick provisioning.
    Question: How can i use Thin provisioning with snapshots?

  • @J-Train_Fit-Travl_Juice-Tender
    @J-Train_Fit-Travl_Juice-Tender 2 роки тому

    I suppose my question would be when setting up and hoping not to waste drive space and function. Would the following exist for QuTS hero or QTS? . . . I was looking for more videos or anecdotal stories of trial and error pitfalls that people found to be best practices in situations where they wasted drive space for the raid/pool storage/ or value . . . or had to move data then delete it(and re setting up nas pools/volumes), by looking back after they set up when learning and gaining experience with missteps/underestimating storage setups. I was hoping the creator . .or anyone scanning video/this thread might chime if they see this thread.

  • @tadbarker7082
    @tadbarker7082 3 роки тому

    Would have been good to see it being turned on and running... How loud is it ?

    • @diegoalonso425
      @diegoalonso425 3 роки тому

      by specs (diskless) is 20,4 db(A) www.qnap.com/es-es/product/ts-h886/specs/hardware

  • @mingmanhk1
    @mingmanhk1 3 роки тому

    Thank you for the video, may i know how to setup qtier on it?

  • @vzool
    @vzool Рік тому

    What is the cheapest QuTS hero NAS?

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  Рік тому +1

      I may be wrong, but I believe it would be the TS-973AX or the TS-473A. Definitely check first though

    • @vzool
      @vzool Рік тому

      @@nascompares Thanks for the response, what do you think about "QNAP TVS-675-8G 6-bay", I feel it could be cheaper, but I saw a bad review which was reviewed in the United States on February 8, 2023 on amazon and said: "Very disappointed with this QNAP. It regularly crashes and becomes unavailable on the network. That may happen every couple of days, sometimes it goes for a week or two without crashing.
      I've had an older model of a Qnap for about 10 years, without ever having had any trouble with it. This thing is close to useless as a NAS. Of course I missed the return window on it, so not sure what I will do."
      REF: QNAP-TVS-675-8G-US-High-Speed-KX-U6580-Connectivity/dp/B09KMMP9SD

    • @garyrds
      @garyrds 10 місяців тому

      @@vzool I've had the TS-453A with solid results from day-1. Behind a UPS and always update apps and then reboot BEFORE updating the Firmware. It's been solid for multi-purpose. I just upgraded to the TVS-h674 with QuTS and it's been solid so far. I've also helped manage a family members TS-253A with the same solid results. Allot of people have issues because of power outages, brownouts, and other electrical supply issues. If you're behind a solid UPS that helps. I also have a Whole House Surge Suppressor at the Main Panel so that protects all of my electronics.

  • @eftomi
    @eftomi 3 роки тому

    "You take the blue pill-the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe", and continue using large companies built NAS devices

    • @nascompares
      @nascompares  3 роки тому +2

      Be fair dude, some users do not have the skillset and/or knowledge base to build a custom rig to this scale. They can invest time and energy, or pay for a complete 'easy' solution. Its the old PC Gaming vs Console gaming argument customization, Power, warranty hurdles and unpredictability vs Fixed build, fixed performance, but a higher price tag and 'safer' hardware.

  • @hae5366
    @hae5366 2 роки тому

    why do all your videos have low volume? can you get a proper mic? After all, this is a tech channel but poor volume get it sorted m8

  • @videobullseye
    @videobullseye Рік тому

    Thanks!