I have fallen in love with the Steingraeber in 8.2 I've just bought my first IEM's (Senheisser Pro 100's). I'm hearing Pianoteq in it's 8.2 glory for the first time. Thank you for all your videos. Warmest regards and every blessing, Chris and Sally
I just got the Beyerdynamic dt 770 pro x with the DAC USB-C cable. And yes it does make a huge difference. After a few days I am still speechless. Pianoteq does recognize the DAC as a new device. So its plug and play! So for the complete experience you need a weighted keyboard to start with, but also a nice laptop, software and good monitors and/or good studio headphones. But hey, the real Steingraeber is still a little more expensive 😅
I have had Pianoteq 7 for a few weeks, Standard Edition, with the Steinway, K2, and Steingraeber (also historical pianos & harps). My keyboard is several time zones away, so I have been using human- recorded MIDI from the International Piano Competition, mostly Bach pieces. Most of the music I work with has counterpoint so clarity and balance among parts is paramount. That said, Steingraeber has become my favorite and go-to model for multi-voice counterpoint. It also has a pedal-activated sound where felt is inserted, which is an amazing sound for quiet/intimate pieces where the usual resonance & sustain would be too much. Last: for anyone who finds fault with any of the presets, the Morph feature of Standard and Pro is a fast and amazingly effective way to create a physical model TO YOUR SPECIFIC TASTE. I am glad I got three pianos with very different sounds and characteristics. It allows for a broad range of Morphed versions. Myself, I have spent most of my time inventing Baroque period instruments that are (eg) morph of clavichord, Celtic harp, a pianoforte, and a Steingraeber. The result is very different from layering or blending those same patches/models.
As always your playing is so marvelous and I know why ;-) This new Steingraeber piano is so amazing, I tend to prefer pianos with a good and powerful bass range but with also a good presence in the mid and high... Like yourself I love the Blüthner very much but this new piano addition in Pianoteq is really great... Thanks for this video and many Blessings, Max T.
It's got more bass then the Steinway D and B but this changes as you go up the register. I'd like to see the differences in the bridge and soundboards. However if you play with the voicing you can get the B and Steingraeber to sound almost the same.
Lovely playing that reveals what the new Steingraeber can do. Would you mind sharing information about how you recorded this? Your sound "card" and sound settings in Pianotew, etc? I ask because the sound that you are getting is stronger than the sound on the Pianoteq demo page, to my ears.
Thanks so much! My soundcard is a Behringer UMC1829 so nothing special there. I use a Waves plugin called L3-LL Ultramaximizer to add a little fullness to the final master. But honestly, I think if you played the midi through Pianoteq, it would sound almost identical. I'll check if I kept the midi file and if I did, I'll post a link to it...
Nice I just got this latest pianoteq edition .Im using a VPC1 to control it ,what speaker system do you recommend for pianoteq.Im using a pair of 5" Yamaha MSP5s but its lacking in bottom end.
Thanks! Well the dynamic range would be slightly wider. The compression I use is very subtle. It just narrows the range slightly without losing its impact.
Phil, I very much enjoy your UA-cam videos on the various Pianoteq piano models and also enjoy your playing style. You have a soulful expressiveness. I am wondering how you are enjoying your Roland HP605. I played both the HP605 and the Mini Grand GP607. The GP607 had a richer sound due to the speaker and amp system. I feel the HP605 might sound richer with the addition of a powered sub woofer. Did you add a sub woofer to your HP605? And, if so, did it do the trick? Thanks, In advance, from another Pianoteq fan, Ted Harrington.
Hi Ted, Thanks for the nice comments. I love the PHA50 action in the HP605 but I'm not a fan of its sound system. So I use a pair of M-Audio BX8s which seem good to me in my little room with no sub. Effectively, I use the piano as a controller for Pianoteq and I like the way it looks on my videos!
Thank you for your video. I have a question for you. In your opinion, what is the best "action" in digital piano? Kawai or Roland? I'm between kawai Cn-37 And Roland Hp-601 to buy...
I have a CS11, I'm new to all of this. When I get everything hooked up properly and I'm utilizing Pianoteq 6, will the sound come through my piano, speakers, or headphones? I'm hoping it comes out of my piano sounding like this!! You play beautifully!
The recording 1 preset sounds the best to me. Still has some brightness but not too much of it like the 272 preset. I'm personally really really enjoying this piano! It was my favorite out of all the ones I tried in pianoteq.
Sorry I missed your question. I don't use the piano's speakers but a pair of M-audio studio monitors. And no, I don't equalise the sound. It's "as is"!
Can you recognize the piano sound of the Roland? I Use to have Roland RD -800 (Now i have the Kawai mp7SE) There were three main piano sounds there. The first piano sound was "grand piano" sample of the main v-piano sound. The second was rd 700 grand piano" and the third was "brilliant grand" And their six variations each My personal favorite was the brilliant grand. i always wonder from what acoustic piano they sample the piano sounds.
By the way, here on the Steingraeber it's very obvious that the low end is far too synthetic. The rest is beautiful, but I'm sure that I could tell it from a blind test because of the very weak low end.
Phil you’re a great pianist I love the Pianoteq software I have a Yamaha Conservatory grand and I installed a Midi9 to go into my win 7 laptop It’s great I just go to my grand and the second I start playing it records my performance. Would you be willing to trade som .f please files of some of your favorites? Keep up the good work.Robert
Thank you so much. I generally like the presets Pianoteq create and don't fiddle much with parameters. If I ever do put the work in to make my own presets that actually sound good, I'd sell them off my website. So I'm sorry but I'm not into swapping fxp files. I think there's a lot of that sort of thing on the Pianoteq forum but it's not really my thing.
There's a 'warm' preset that cuts down on the brightness a lot, FYI. And of course, it's Pianoteq so you can always change it if you have the standard or pro version.
I don't know what to say to your comment. Yes the top end is bright, but it's not unrealistic. It could be your own speakers that you are hearing it on. As an aside, I recommend getting the Pro Version from the outset when they put it on special. Going through the upgrades will cost more even when on sale.
you can edit the crap out of pianoteq. i've owned every sampled piano for that last 3 decades. This company is light years ahead of samples. To play this is a trip also.
And brilliant playing as always. Your interpretations are always so natural and easy going.
Thank you!
Thanks so much for putting this video out there Phil. That was an absolute pleasure to watch and to listen to.
Thanks Saul!
I have fallen in love with the Steingraeber in 8.2
I've just bought my first IEM's (Senheisser Pro 100's). I'm hearing Pianoteq in it's 8.2 glory for the first time.
Thank you for all your videos.
Warmest regards and every blessing,
Chris and Sally
My pleasure! I agree that the Steingraeber is really great. Enjoy!
I just got the Beyerdynamic dt 770 pro x with the DAC USB-C cable. And yes it does make a huge difference. After a few days I am still speechless. Pianoteq does recognize the DAC as a new device. So its plug and play!
So for the complete experience you need a weighted keyboard to start with, but also a nice laptop, software and good monitors and/or good studio headphones. But hey, the real Steingraeber is still a little more expensive 😅
The sound is so luxurious. Its grand and full amazing performance.
Thank you!
I have had Pianoteq 7 for a few weeks, Standard Edition, with the Steinway, K2, and Steingraeber (also historical pianos & harps). My keyboard is several time zones away, so I have been using human- recorded MIDI from the International Piano Competition, mostly Bach pieces. Most of the music I work with has counterpoint so clarity and balance among parts is paramount.
That said, Steingraeber has become my favorite and go-to model for multi-voice counterpoint. It also has a pedal-activated sound where felt is inserted, which is an amazing sound for quiet/intimate pieces where the usual resonance & sustain would be too much.
Last: for anyone who finds fault with any of the presets, the Morph feature of Standard and Pro is a fast and amazingly effective way to create a physical model TO YOUR SPECIFIC TASTE.
I am glad I got three pianos with very different sounds and characteristics. It allows for a broad range of Morphed versions. Myself, I have spent most of my time inventing Baroque period instruments that are (eg) morph of clavichord, Celtic harp, a pianoforte, and a Steingraeber. The result is very different from layering or blending those same patches/models.
Hi Russell I’m Robert From California I really like the Pianoteq software is it possible to share the layers presets?
Magnifique!
Merci!
Loved the nocturne, faster in the fast bits and slower in the slow bits than what im used to.. Really works well. Great performance.
Thank you very much!
As always your playing is so marvelous and I know why ;-) This new Steingraeber piano is so amazing, I tend to prefer pianos with a good and powerful bass range but with also a good presence in the mid and high... Like yourself I love the Blüthner very much but this new piano addition in Pianoteq is really great... Thanks for this video and many Blessings, Max T.
Thanks so much, Max.
So beautiful but I wonder if it's worth 49 euros cosindering I already have the Steinway sound. So many instruments to choose from but limited money
1:55 This Steingraeber video review is the best review of the Blüthner I've found.
😉
It's got more bass then the Steinway D and B but this changes as you go up the register.
I'd like to see the differences in the bridge and soundboards. However if you play with the voicing you can get the B and Steingraeber to sound almost the same.
It’s passible from ppp to fff
Amazing!!
Lovely playing that reveals what the new Steingraeber can do. Would you mind sharing information about how you recorded this? Your sound "card" and sound settings in Pianotew, etc? I ask because the sound that you are getting is stronger than the sound on the Pianoteq demo page, to my ears.
Thanks so much! My soundcard is a Behringer UMC1829 so nothing special there. I use a Waves plugin called L3-LL Ultramaximizer to add a little fullness to the final master. But honestly, I think if you played the midi through Pianoteq, it would sound almost identical. I'll check if I kept the midi file and if I did, I'll post a link to it...
This nocturne will be my next upload 👌😎
Nice I just got this latest pianoteq edition .Im using a VPC1 to control it ,what speaker system do you recommend for pianoteq.Im using a pair of 5" Yamaha MSP5s but its lacking in bottom end.
I avoid making recommendations as these things are a matter of personal taste. I have a pair of M Audio BX8s which I like.
Good performance! I wonder how the Steingraeber model would sound if it wasn't processed by compression you mentioned in your reply.
Thanks! Well the dynamic range would be slightly wider. The compression I use is very subtle. It just narrows the range slightly without losing its impact.
what preset is used at the opening? :) wonderful sound!
Thank you! It's the default preset.
Sounds similar to Bechstein to me. Both very good at fin de siecle nocturnes
As always, brilliant playing and presentation. Is that an Avantgrande?
Thanks so much. It's a Roland HP605 with Pianoteq.
Phil, I very much enjoy your UA-cam videos on the various Pianoteq piano models and also enjoy your playing style. You have a soulful expressiveness. I am wondering how you are enjoying your Roland HP605. I played both the HP605 and the Mini Grand GP607. The GP607 had a richer sound due to the speaker and amp system. I feel the HP605 might sound richer with the addition of a powered sub woofer. Did you add a sub woofer to your HP605? And, if so, did it do the trick?
Thanks, In advance, from another Pianoteq fan, Ted Harrington.
Hi Ted, Thanks for the nice comments. I love the PHA50 action in the HP605 but I'm not a fan of its sound system. So I use a pair of M-Audio BX8s which seem good to me in my little room with no sub. Effectively, I use the piano as a controller for Pianoteq and I like the way it looks on my videos!
Thank you for your video. I have a question for you. In your opinion, what is the best "action" in digital piano? Kawai or Roland?
I'm between kawai Cn-37 And Roland Hp-601 to buy...
It comes down to personal taste. I like Roland PHA50 action very much!
thank you Phil.
I have a CS11, I'm new to all of this. When I get everything hooked up properly and I'm utilizing Pianoteq 6, will the sound come through my piano, speakers, or headphones? I'm hoping it comes out of my piano sounding like this!! You play beautifully!
Thank you! As long as the CS11 has an audio input (I'm pretty sure it does) you can feed the sound through the piano itself.
@@PhilBestMusic Thank you!
phil, awesome video mate, what's the new piano?
Thank you! It's a Roland HP605 with the new Steingraeber in Pianoteq.
Which Steingraeber preset(s) were you using?
It's the default preset.
When you use this Pianoteq software when you play your piano can you only hear the sound through a computer or can it be put through monitor speakers.
You can plug monitors into your computer!
Phil, Is it E-272 ? So bright.
That's right. It is very bright at the top!
The recording 1 preset sounds the best to me. Still has some brightness but not too much of it like the 272 preset. I'm personally really really enjoying this piano! It was my favorite out of all the ones I tried in pianoteq.
Are you using the M-Audio BX8 Carbon 8" Powered Studio Monitors Phil? It's time to replace my Yamaha HS8 speakers.
They're M-Audio BX8 D3s.
Phil Best you are running pianoteq sound through your piano’s speakers? If not do you use an external analog equalizer for the sound?
Sorry I missed your question. I don't use the piano's speakers but a pair of M-audio studio monitors. And no, I don't equalise the sound. It's "as is"!
Can you recognize the piano sound of the Roland?
I Use to have Roland RD -800 (Now i have the Kawai mp7SE)
There were three main piano sounds there.
The first piano sound was "grand piano" sample of the main v-piano sound.
The second was rd 700 grand piano" and the third was "brilliant grand"
And their six variations each
My personal favorite was the brilliant grand.
i always wonder from what acoustic piano they sample the piano sounds.
I don't use the Roland sounds these days - only Pianoteq so I'm not sure, but I always thought my V-Piano sound was Steinway-like...
By the way, here on the Steingraeber it's very obvious that the low end is far too synthetic. The rest is beautiful, but I'm sure that I could tell it from a blind test because of the very weak low end.
Phil you’re a great pianist
I love the Pianoteq software I have a Yamaha Conservatory grand and I installed a Midi9 to go into my win 7 laptop
It’s great I just go to my grand and the second I start playing it records my performance.
Would you be willing to trade som .f please files of some of your favorites?
Keep up the good work.Robert
.fxp files
Thank you so much. I generally like the presets Pianoteq create and don't fiddle much with parameters. If I ever do put the work in to make my own presets that actually sound good, I'd sell them off my website. So I'm sorry but I'm not into swapping fxp files. I think there's a lot of that sort of thing on the Pianoteq forum but it's not really my thing.
Phil Be(a)st! ;)
I just bought this piano after getting FOMO from Black Friday discounts.
Nice one!
Not at ALL like Bluthner IRL. Much more direct and assertive.
Sounds harsh and twangy to me. The top notes 'ting'. There is not that mechanical clunk that moderates the short string notes. I don't like it at all
The top does have a very bright quality but I rather like it. The clunk can be turned up... But each to their own, eh?
There's a 'warm' preset that cuts down on the brightness a lot, FYI. And of course, it's Pianoteq so you can always change it if you have the standard or pro version.
I don't know what to say to your comment. Yes the top end is bright, but it's not unrealistic. It could be your own speakers that you are hearing it on. As an aside, I recommend getting the Pro Version from the outset when they put it on special. Going through the upgrades will cost more even when on sale.
you can edit the crap out of pianoteq. i've owned every sampled piano for that last 3 decades. This company is light years ahead of samples. To play this is a trip also.