Pianist JOHN ODDO arranged PEANUT VENDOR (John Oddo: 1953-2019/RIP). WIKI: On July 6, 1980, Oddo joined the Herd along with John Fedchock, Steve Horrow, and Mike Brignola. Oddo would quickly become a star in the long line of pianists/arrangers for Herman dating back to Ralph Burns, Nat Pierce, and Alan Broadbent; he would serve as the band's primary arranger 1980-1984. NOTE: Per Herd Baritonist Mike Brignola, John arranged these tunes for Woody’s Band: Woody’s Gold Star, World On A String, John Brown’s Other Body, Lemon Drop, Peanut Vendor, Perdido, You Are So Beautiful, Beginning To See The Light.
If you're going to jazzify Peanut Vendor, you'd better pull it off. This is nothing, just whomped-up big band pizzaz like an arrangement for a tv show. Why the hell a big band would want to do this to the clave feeling in the original is beyond me -- I think it's a syndrome that happens to musicians when they have spent many many too many hours just doing sight reading exercises. After horrendous hours of boring sight reading, any kind of whomped-up fluff turns their crank.
@@rmo52 And as I'd say to Woody and to you, Pal, "it's called blowing it". Don't be fooled by someone being a pro musician and band leader -- some of those guys don't have any feeling for music, they're just proficient robots that have come out of many too many years of endless sight-reading exercises. This rendition of Peanut Vendor misses the music so totally it's just an empty, useless exercise for all concerned, and certainly not anything that anyone should try to pass of as "variety" -- it's a mediocre failure of an attempt to be (regressively) distinctive. If that isn't screamingly evident to your ears, you don't have the feel for the vast area of music that Peanut Vendor / El Manisero is a beautiful example of. No one should put together such a useless, empty version of such a great chart -- it's a huge backward step and if you tell youngsters it's progressive or adds something, you're just sending those naive youngsters with their under-developed ears down the road to nowheresville.
@@clivegaby7775 And you don't think he'd have bad moves sometimes in pushing the boundaries? There's no point in stylizing Peanut Vendor into nothing, it's a waste of everyone's time. And, in answer to your question about what do I know, I was raised in jazz musician family. From newborn on I was raised on Dixie, swing and Latin music. Family friends from my earliest memories on were jazz musicians, singers, and some Afro-Caribbean dancers in Katherine Dunhim's style. My brother became a jazz drummer, I played Afro-Latin percussion in 15-piece Latin bands and in jazz blues bands with horns, and I am a dancer in multiple styles, and a sometimes choreographer. So i answer to your question, that's what I know. How about you? What do you know about 2-3 clave in mambos such as Peanut Vendor?
Pianist JOHN ODDO arranged PEANUT VENDOR (John Oddo: 1953-2019/RIP). WIKI: On July 6, 1980, Oddo joined the Herd along with John Fedchock, Steve Horrow, and Mike Brignola. Oddo would quickly become a star in the long line of pianists/arrangers for Herman dating back to Ralph Burns, Nat Pierce, and Alan Broadbent; he would serve as the band's primary arranger 1980-1984. NOTE: Per Herd Baritonist Mike Brignola, John arranged these tunes for Woody’s Band:
Woody’s Gold Star, World On A String, John Brown’s Other Body, Lemon Drop, Peanut Vendor, Perdido, You Are So Beautiful, Beginning To See The Light.
Love John Oddo with Woody and then later with Rosie Clooney - amazing player and arranger......
Cripes, if I hadn't been watching I might have thought that trombone soloist was Bill Watrous. Very, very similar playing.
That's John Fedchock.
great stuff!!
Anyone know who did this arrangement? This is great stuff!!
The blonde tenor player went on to play Wade Gustafson in Fargo.
John Fedchock 's soloing
Yes, I know. He play trombone. What does that have to do with the tenor player?
I think that's really Dave Riekenberg.
Ron Stout rumpet far right and maybe Dan Fornero lead??
Don Downs on lead Trumpet.
If you're going to jazzify Peanut Vendor, you'd better pull it off. This is nothing, just whomped-up big band pizzaz like an arrangement for a tv show. Why the hell a big band would want to do this to the clave feeling in the original is beyond me -- I think it's a syndrome that happens to musicians when they have spent many many too many hours just doing sight reading exercises. After horrendous hours of boring sight reading, any kind of whomped-up fluff turns their crank.
As Woody himself would say: “It’s called ‘variety’, pal”.
@@rmo52 And as I'd say to Woody and to you, Pal, "it's called blowing it". Don't be fooled by someone being a pro musician and band leader -- some of those guys don't have any feeling for music, they're just proficient robots that have come out of many too many years of endless sight-reading exercises.
This rendition of Peanut Vendor misses the music so totally it's just an empty, useless exercise for all concerned, and certainly not anything that anyone should try to pass of as "variety" -- it's a mediocre failure of an attempt to be (regressively) distinctive.
If that isn't screamingly evident to your ears, you don't have the feel for the vast area of music that Peanut Vendor / El Manisero is a beautiful example of. No one should put together such a useless, empty version of such a great chart -- it's a huge backward step and if you tell youngsters it's progressive or adds something, you're just sending those naive youngsters with their under-developed ears down the road to nowheresville.
What do you about big bands, the way you are talking there big bands should not try some different now and again, Woody always pushed the boundaries.
@@clivegaby7775 And you don't think he'd have bad moves sometimes in pushing the boundaries? There's no point in stylizing Peanut Vendor into nothing, it's a waste of everyone's time. And, in answer to your question about what do I know, I was raised in jazz musician family. From newborn on I was raised on Dixie, swing and Latin music. Family friends from my earliest memories on were jazz musicians, singers, and some Afro-Caribbean dancers in Katherine Dunhim's style. My brother became a jazz drummer, I played Afro-Latin percussion in 15-piece Latin bands and in jazz blues bands with horns, and I am a dancer in multiple styles, and a sometimes choreographer. So i answer to your question, that's what I know. How about you? What do you know about 2-3 clave in mambos such as Peanut Vendor?
Sorry mate you have missed the point, Woody never stood still and was always pushing the boundaries.