We had only ONE HOUR to RECORD DRUMS!
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2021
- We face off against the makers of Lewitt mics in a one hour drum challenge: Setup, record and mix a drum set in only one hour. Who had the better mix? Team Spectre, or Team Lewitt? Leave a comment & tell us what your favourite mix is!
Watch the Lewitt GUITAR TONE battle here: • We had only 30 MIN for...
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I'm Glenn Fricker, engineer here at Spectre Sound Studios. I love making records, and after doing it for sixteen years, I want to pass on what I've learned. On my channel you can find tutorials on how to record guitar, bass, real drums and vocals. There's reviews and demos of tube amps, amp sims, drums, mics, preamps, outboard gear, Electric Guitar, Bass Guitar, and plugin effects.
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Thanks again to the both of you for dropping by. It was fun and exhausting indeed...let's see what happens in PART 2 of our epic studio battle.
That was awesome. The Lewitt guys were great. Fun challenge. I have the Lewitt LCT 640. I have had it for about 9 years and I use it all the time.
GG guys! Just got back from a gig with my MTP540. I have it for several years now and it's my preferred live mic!
You guys are doing great things, I have a pair of 140s on my radar!
Mix A is absolutely Glenn's mix. Not only does it sound miles better,, but there's his trademark "shit ton of reverb on the snare" technique that totally makes his signature sound.
I agree, same for the toms. They have that Glenn sound.
It's funny, because in more traditional pop, it works wonders as well :) You can have a loud, dry and punchy kick, and a 50% wet snare, and wetter toms - provided the latter is only here and there.
80's snare with a ton of reverb technique 👍
and that fat kick and crystal highs
@@phantasmich or mult the snare, eq, limit to hell, plate, limit as well - and then tuck it in beneath.
I'll go with mix A: it's a bit more rough on the cymbals but it sounds more full and modern. The fact that its volume is higher doesn't help in a fair comparison.
Hah yea mix A is definitely SSS, i can't imagine Glenn being so pleased himself with the sound of the mix B kick, but both sounded really good for 60 minutes to setup, record and mix... and i imagine Glenn has vastly more experience in making quick decisions about a mix. Thanks guys, love to Lewitt and SSS
"Somebody should've been a bass player."
You always sneak 'em in and I love it
this was really cool, liked both mixes, feel like Mix A was a bit raw, and Mix B went too far with a "safe" sound. that being said, its really really really amazing how you guys pulled this off in the time
You mean, the mix was alive, not raw, raw sounds different. B on the other hand was muffled dead.
@@GroovingDrums Are you just ignoring the glaring abudnance of 5-10k frequency on track A? That and the kick blended in with the rest of the band.
@@DudeMcGuybro Did I say it was perfect and nothing needs to be adjusted? Heck no. But for one hour including mic placement, recording, mixing, it feels just alive.
You can clearly hear how dead Mix B is when you directly listen from the End of A to the beginning of B. Not only the drums are more alive, but also the rest of the band. Track B is so muffled down, 'it's dead Jim'.
@@GroovingDrums You have a fair point! I prefer blankets instead of razor blade because my ears are big babies and can't handle the frequencies xD
Both mixes work, for sure. Mix A has more energy, but it almost sounds a bit too crushed/hyped, whereas B sounded like it was a little too safe, not quite energetic enough, but overall tone I did prefer B. Cool video though, would love to see more like this! Maybe something with Shure?
That's exactly what I thought.
Mix A peaked so bad.
mix b sounds a lot more like a demo
It’s so cool seeing Glenn just doing his thing and seeing him making micing and mixing decisions in the moment
Yes, he's definitely such a pro in so many things.
prefer the Team A mix, i'm assuming it's yours lol. Drums are lot more clearer there which fits better for modern sounding metal band.
I agree, only sounds a bit phasey on the cymbals xD
Super cool video guys! Looks like an absolute blast!
Amazing episode, supercool production and concept. Keep up this content!!
More like this Glen! Please and thankyou!
Awesome video. Love the whole fun competition idea. 🙏
What a fun challenge! Great to watch such vastly different perspectives. Wow! More than a touch of jealousy at the room you got to work in as well as having carte blanche of all those amazing Lewitt mics.
Of the two mixes, mIx A just has more oomph, and definitely feels like Glenn's signature mix tropes are all over it. I'm just a sucker for how Glenn crushes the drum sound.
Also, as a Reaper user, it was great to see Glenn just record the drums and then take the stems to his laptop and do his thing.
Mix B is clearer and more in control. Mix A sounds more up front but the bass is a bit boomy.
Fun video, thanks!
Definitely going with A here. Sounds much bigger to my ears, the snare has a lot more pop to it as well and doesn't sound as dead. Cymbals I'm more balanced and not as hissy in the top end. Both sound good but A gets my boat
This is absolute GOLD!
This was great, and actually pretty hyped,Glenn managed the time so effortlessly!!
Me: at work listening to this
Glenn: Go waste a little more of your bosses time
Me: Good idea Glenn *heads over to the Lewiston UA-cam page
Big difference - the Lewitt guys treated it like a science experiment with their laser pointers and Glenn approached it from a "where do these mics sound good, where does the drummer hit the snare" etc
Well, you better be exact when setting up room mics in stereo, otherwise you won't get a well-balanced stereo image 🤓
Hope you had fun with the video! 🤘
“B” reminded me of the sounds from some 90’s-00’s bands that I really enjoy, so I pick it. I do believe “A” is probably the better one for modern production. I dig this type of video. Good job, y’all
Hi Matthew, glad you liked it.
Love the way you did this video! Please do more. :D
"A" just sounds more alive. Both the low and high frequencies are present and balanced against the guitars.
"B" sounds like the drums are pushed to one side in favour of the guitar sound and everything sounds like their tone knobs have been turned down (does a Drummer have a tone knob ??!!)
Same Drummer, drum kit, recording gear, studio etc etc. Just shows how much influence the individual setting it all up can influence the overall result.
Mix Aaaaaaaaa! Great drum sound. Thanks for the vid. Learned a lot
Love the Aux Cable ! Tone Bro !
Oh wow. I’ve been in some insane studios in my day. The studio I grew up in was obsessed with upgrading to the newest unit every single time something came out. It was pretty insane. But this studio just looks beautiful. The studio grew up in looked like an 80s space shop, but this looks like a work of art!
Thanks! Much appreciated
What a great idea. Super interesting!!
One hour to record drums reminded me of some of my early serious recordings where each band had a block of 4 hours to track at least 2 songs. Most got to record 3 and some even 4 songs. Time limitations can really boost your productiveness.
That's very true, sometimes the time pressure helps to get in the zone and focus on your work 😁
Awesome job getting these sounds, including tracking, in an hour. Good job all of you 🤟 cheers // Wince
Mix A is really great, everything feels like it was presented at their best. Mix B in comparison has a classic Morrisound vibe.
Really Really Really cool video, more like this please!!!!!!
Man, that Mix A is definitely a Glenn Fricker mix. Over-compressed cymbals and guitars, sponging in and out, way too many layers of harmonic enhancement... sounds a lot like "The Eagle Has Landed."
Yeah..... got to go with mix A.. Thanks Glenn,you make great content
Awesome! Such a fun idea for a video! I've only been watching your channel for a short time, so I'm not sure if you've done this before, but I think it's a novel concept worth doing at least once more. I think it would be cool to have each team roll a 6-sided die, and whatever number comes up, that's the number of mics you have to mic the kit. Or, maybe each team can mic a kit with, but can only use 57s.
Also, mix B is my gut feeling pick, but not by that much.
Loving mix A!
There is something about the bass drum EQ that I like, in B although I feel like it is more in post. Other than the China being a little washy, everything else sounds there. Really nice... Wonder how much of that is the room mic mixed in. Dunno. Wonder if we'll get a video recounting the options Glenn chose for the speedy mix. What a fun challenge.
I really enjoyed the different methods of "science" or "what sounds best?" attitude in the video.
Mix A is louder and more compressed(i think), and i find the snare a few dbs too loud for my taste. Mix B is the opposite, and as others noted, a bit too safe. I would prefer something in between of the 2. That beeing said, i lean more towards mix A because it conveys more excitement.Regardless, that is a top video! Looking forward to the next one!🤘
Mix A is the one to beat here. Everything is so clear and forward. Nice work!
I really want to send this video to my friend that said "these days, the room doesnt really matter anyway." *sigh*
Mix A for the win! Mix A was also most definitely Glenn and Alex. Great work guys with such limited time! Mix B was more on the safe side, but the lewitt mics still let through the tamber of the toms beautifully. :) Awesome idea you guys!
Mix A sounds like it made it to some mastering. Both very well done.
Absolutely awesome sound! It kinda reminded me of BFMV scream, aim, fire. Inspiring too.
Glen you should do more of this, it’s awesome. Also Glen have you heard of the Fresh Air plug-in I wanted to know how it works in a metal mix.
Do more of this please 😎😎😎
A suits my ear for sure. More crisp, fat kick, beautiful snare and up in the mix. Both fantastic for an hour!
Very cool video! It's hard to say what mix I'd put in the final mix... Like the kit sound (and reverbs) on mix A better, but the sound of the cymbals and hi-hat in B better... Both cool though
This was cool! Glenn you're a genius. I love Lewitt mics!!!!
Thank you for your kind words 😊
@@LEWITT-audio You're welcome! Lewitt Rocks!
Great video Glenn! I will go for Mix A being Glenn and Alex's. Kick drum is missing in mix B.
Need more of these challenges. This is fucking awesome. Mix A for sure.
Glenn, do you see that? We really need to do that again sometime! 😁
I prefer Mix A, despite what appears to be some phase issues with the overheads. It just had more punch, and the snare sounds amazing. I'm gonna take a wild guess that mix A is Glenn's.
Definitely phase issues happening
This was awesome 👌
Mix A is 100% Glenn's Mix. Glenn gave the drums the right attention and impact they need in a metal context.
I like the part at 1:54 where the Lewitt guys are putting up a foam tunnel in front of the Kick drum. I must assume they have never seen your video on stop cupping the Mic LoL!!!!
Gotta go with A. Not sure if that's the mic they put outside of the room that I'm hearing or if that's synthetic reverb but it's really nice.
waaaait a minute, GLEN F knows what hes doing?! hahaha just kidding, love the channel man! We already know you kick ass in the studio
great vid!
I really like how clean mix b is. I dont think it necessarily fits the track but it sounds amazing
SUPER refreshing to see glenn hyped hahaha
Fun watching these vids then seeing people you know appear :D Hey, Dani :D
I only listened on my tv, but mix A blows mix B out of the water. A definitely the winner.
I definitely go with the drum sound on A, which sounds much livelier and the stereo imagery is better to me. I wasn't super fond of the kick sound and something about it in B I liked a touch better, though I'd probably like a more aggressive kick than either. Absolutely great video!
Great video! I like A but B is good too, especially with the rush job everyone done. Obviously everyone would have wanted more time but this shows how much time a lot of people waste .
I’m going with Mix A as the SMG mix. The cymbal volume sounds a lot more like Glen’s mixes that Mix B.
Mix B is Lewitt’s mix; they kept the overhead volume low to try and ensure clarity of the close mics, but for the genre, the overheads sound a bit soft (to my ear).
Mix A is Glenn’s mix. Glenn always goes drummer perspective so the rack tom is on the left side and the floor tom is on the right.
That's some serious business there. Great work both of you for setting that shit up so quickly. I thought A sounded very full and dynamic. B was a bit rough sounding like there was only 2 minutes left for editing.
Mix A - The snare is definitely more "in my face", louder and out of the background
Two things.
First: I'm pretty sure Mix A is from Glenn's team.
Second: I think the drums on Mix A sounds the best.
But it's not the reason I think it's Glenn's doing.
I've listened to Glenn's work for a while, but a lot of his drum mixing he did recently. And Mix A sounds (at least to me), close to what I heard from him in his recent drum videos.
Anyways, great video!
Cheers from France! 🍻
Gear used: Sennheiser HD800S/RME ADI-2 P FS R -Internet Opinion Only-
Adjusted for loudness difference, I preferred Mix B. "A" stylistically might be a better overall song fit. For me Mix A had some unpleasant stuff occurring with the upper bass/low mid transients along with the overly present cymbals. Both have something slightly odd going on with the cymbal attack & release in parts of the mix. Enjoyed the panning of the toms more in Mix B.
Anyway, time constraints; nice shootout.
After a few listens I like mix a more, feels more open and natural. Mix b was my first choice on the first listen but it was darker after a few listens and I like to hear the cymbals more since there was a lot of it.
To my ears, there is a pretty huge volume difference between mix A and B, with A being the loudest. It makes it a little more difficult to not fall for the "loud is better" thing, but having jumped back and forth while adjusting the volume I'd still say mix A sounds bigger and more hard hitting. That being said, both mixes done in an hour is pretty incredible.
Mix A gotta be Glenn's. Awesome video btw!
Mix A was fairly louder, which doesn't do the A/B much justice. Anyway, interesting exercise (that I actually do almost every weekend :D )
Fun video!
A is my preference. A feels much more present, though still a bit mushy in the lower-midrange. B has nice separation in the overheads - maybe to a fault, but lacks punch in both the snare and kick. Cymbals don't cut enough in either mix, and I would have put the drums more forward overall in the mix for this demo.
Mix A sounds killer!!
I don't dig the mixes, but mix a sounds better overall, so i would guess it is Glenn's. Mix A is a lot louder (and pumpier), bass also overpowers mix b a bit at times. Would have been easier to "judge" if both mixes were on the same level. Mix b's drums are kinda buried. But for just one hour to do everything this is pretty cool!
I agree, I think that with w tad more volume on B it might stand out differently
There's more high end in A, I like that one over the other.
But I couldn't have done either of them in a day, let alone an hour!!
Well done guys, loved this episode!
Great to hear that you enjoyed this episode! Have you already watched part 2? What do you think about it? 😊
WOW Big drop switching from A to B. The team from SpectreSoundStudio did a Great Job . Only Pro can make that look Fun and EZ
I heard more going on with mix B, but for a Metal Mix it was Mix A all the way. That was great fun!
Strong preference for Mix A. Didn't listen on headphones, had some Neumann KH120 monitors in front of me instead, haha. Kick and snare punched through well, whereas they felt a bit buried in the other one. Mix B was less crispy and felt less defined overall, but an aggressive mastering chain might help it to sound as loud as the song feels like it wants to be. I err on the side of drums over guitars in my mix level preference though, so as always, YMMV!
I would try to take the drums from mix B, and the cymbals from mix A, and see how that sounds together. Fun video!
A hands down!
Mix A is Team Specter Sound. It has more top end sparkle on the overheads and a livelier kick drum.
On mix B you can hear the dampening of the kick by their "foam tunnel".
Feels like Mix A is rocking it!!!! 🤘
A and I think it's yours, Glen. Cool video!
I vote for "A" Bass Drum mix had much better definition. I do wish the snare had a bit more "crack" to it, but that's a personal preference. All in all, a great job Glen. From one dumb ass to another, LOL, thanks for delivering great vids!!!
love the the team A mix, snare sounded a little dead, but other than that, it sounded sick
They both turned out really good yet very different! Great work by all! Mixing drums is super challenging and to add an hour limit to it?!? Very impressive!
Mix A - Glen's, felt a little more pushed and mixed more to Metal. Awesome work!
Mix B - Lewitt, seemed to be mixed less and captured the drums more naturally giving it an overall more organic feel, if it was a drum instrumental mix I would love to hear Lewitt mix for that!
Mix A for the drum sound, Mix B for the song mix. Since it's specified as a drum mix competition, I believe that makes A the winner. A's drums just have a lot more clarity and life to them.
Glenn has legs!!!
It's like the first time I saw a muppet walk . 😁
Glenn is Mix A. Snappy snare gave you away. Good job guys. Love my Lewitt mics.
Glenn nailed the mix. No replacement for experience (I'm working on that)
Mix A drums sound like they are cutting through the mix more.
Fantastic fun in the studio
Mix A has a brightness that reminds you of Glenn almost immediately. It was also apparent Mix A had a regular kick drum while Mix B had that coffin sound in the bass, which I kinda liked even tho they called it a fail
Wow. this is great! Listened to both mixes several times.
Mix A sounds the loudest and most open to me. There is more top end, but there is a weird phase issue going on with the hi-hat / cymbals in the center? Sounds like they could've been panned more to one side. It sounds a little "harsh" to me.
Mix B is more subdued, but definitely cleaner. The spread on the drums is better and sounds a lot cleaner. I think it's just missing some high end sparkle to make it shine and this would easily be the winner.
I'm leaning more towards Mix A. Just barely though!!
Yep, I noticed the Hi Hat issue as well. For whatever reason I find the snare to not sit too well in both mixes. With half an hour more the tuning should have been a topic.
Mix A...amazing drum tone...heavy, powerful, and full of clarity.
Mix B All Day … what a fantastic video… Love’n Lewitt
I prefer Mix A. The drums just pop out of the mix a bit more and that snare tone is amazing. Really cuts through the band with the backbeat. Love it.
The bassdrum in the Glenn mix sounds fucking huge! We can heard it when he was mixing! Mix A , Glenn!
There are things I like about each mix. Mix B kick sounds more genre appropriate. Mix A has more high end, cymbals up. They're both a bit dark on the snare.
Gotta go with A, sounded more alive to me. Either way, really cool vid, loved this!
A is definitely Glenn, but I really enjoyed the stereo imaging and the smoothness of the cymbals of the mix B