The fighter jet that was 'too fast' - The French Leduc 022
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Griffin looks cool too.
if you need help with french name prononciation, call me LMAO
Cool, now you can spend the first 5:00 minutes of the video watching ads.
Congrats on integrating them nicely in video, hope that at least 50% of the next video to be ads, completely for free!
Too bad it's not possible to put the ads link somewhere more than just first thing in the description, and in the comment, and pin the comment...
A12 and SR71 borrow some ideas from Leduc. But Dassault was just a better designer
Pilot: “Where do I sit?”
Engineer: “You’re the inlet cone.”
Pilot: “but what about ejecti-“
Engineer: “Get in.”
U got a reaction. Good one.
Ejection was included indeed: The whole front cone was to be ejected, then the pilot out of it. It was tested and it worked.
Get in lil bitc% 🤣
Pierce mach 5 air with your feet. No mental stress attached.
🤣
That must’ve been absolutely terrifying to fly
Fly? No no no. I'd watch with terror
Now there is drone tech!
You mean “exhilarating”
The very fact this thing is so Batsh@t, in my opinion, completely disproves the stereotype of the French as cowards when you consider it was a Frenchman who strapped himself into this monster every single time it flew
Thats exactly the reason why some pilots would love to fly it
Crazy to think ramjets were proposed in 1913, so early in aviation history!
It's really an issue of material science. A lot of the cool things we benefit from today are the materials catching up to the ideas from decades ago. It's crazy to think about.
Yeah, they could fly during 1 world war. If military men were not stupid. It could easily lunched thanks to magnetic railroad or rockets axilirtions units so they could bomb germans esealy.
Turbos, hybrid -electric,superchargers, etc, are all 100 yr old ideas
well steam ships and metallic rifle cartridge had been proposed in the very early 1800s but the technology wasn't there yet and it would have sucked on top of being very expensive
Wait till you find out nothing new is invented in current experiment...
I’m astounded to see that these craft weren’t merely figments of a fevered computer artist’s imagination! They were real! By all means…do a report of the Griffon next, please!
Leduc was very bitter that his program was cancelled in february 1958 and used to say : "You see technical life is like human life. In the end the germs always win."
I literally read it as "In the end the germans always win" lol
@@scifidino5022 same here lmao
The concept was not practical ! The SR-71 was a money pit and France had the Mirage who solved the problem !
@@druisteen not practical at that time, but after many years and innovations, it became the fastest jet engine to date..
They were useful because they were pretty simple even earlier. The soviets built a biplane with two ramjets.. of course it didn't go mach 3+ like the SR-71 but it made it go a little faster
Something missing in your video. Not a word on the only pilot who flyed this dangerous plane, dangerous for the pilot. By luck, my Father best friend, the pilot Jean Sarailh, was some times home. He was a fascinating guy. A very tough man, hard rugby player before WW2 who joined the French Résistance. Prisoner in Germany, he escaped to get back to the fight.
Every flight on the different types of Leduc was a trip to hell. Many accidents staked out the Leduc adventure.
(Past tense of fly is flew). It looks like the British Miles M52
@@davidpeters6536 may be. I'm not expert
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing!
Sarrail*
BTW, Jean Gonord and Yvan Litloff also flew the Leduc 022.
Vu les risques pris par les pilotes d'essai de l'époque, il était impossible pour les constructeurs d'avions de n'avoir qu'un seul pilote d'essai, leur blessures ou décès aurait provoqué le blocage du développement des prototypes.
@@chucku00wtf frog eater
Not only you should a video on the Griffin, but also on all the weird aircrafts that were built by the US, UK, USSR, during the fifties and early sixties.
Agreed, the bae p.1216 is one of my favourite British designed aircraft that barely anyone knows in which actually helped develop the F - 35 although not nearly as much as the yak 141.
A link for those more curious about the aircraft: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aerospace_P.1216
If you want more British cancelled designs then here:
British Aerospace P.125 ‘Have Not Glass’ (1985)
British Aerospace P.1214 ‘Bond’s X-wing’ (1980)
Saunders-Roe SR.A/1 ‘The Squirt Queen’ (1947)
Saunders Roe SR.53 (1957)
Thin Wing Javelin ‘Terrific Tripe Triangle’ (1953)
Fairey Delta 3 ‘The Delta Belter’ (1956)
Hawker P1103/P1121 ‘Super Hunter’
Hawker Siddeley P.1154 ‘The Hyper Harrier’
Thumbs 👍 on the griffin please
Like the NA-335
The Griffin looked like something out of a Japanese animation!
And all of the STUPID designs by the Old Generals and loonie politicians.
Excavators may be more humble than interceptors, but they literally build the world we live in.
excavators dont build anything they remove earth. excavation isnt building anything. they dig holes
Hi there. It's great to see this film. One of the engineers of this plane is André Gallopin and the partner of my father his sister (my aunt). He is 96 years old now and lives in Six Four les plages near Toulon (South of France). I'm really overwelded to see this nice documentary! Well done! 😊 (I just forwarded it to him. I wonder what his reaction will be... Best regards, Frank
It’s hard to look at the later theorized model of this plane with the dual engines and tail fins without immediately seeing its similarities to the back end of an SR-71 Blackbird. Simplistic yet somehow futuristic looking design, bet that thing struggled mightily to turn at any speed, though! Great video, as always! Love your content!
4:46 as a Frenchman, hearing this famous quote that I used to hear all the time in history class as a child brought a nostalgic tear to my eye... Cheers !
this is a copy of the Miles M1...
@@shaunwalker2557 So... What ?
You, Real engineering and Mustard have to be one of the best youtube channels out there, you should do a Collab! (If you haven't already)
I’m down but have to get the others onboard! Good luck haha I’ve certainly asked
@@FoundAndExplained if there’s enough info can you do a video on the a-12 avenger ii that would be nice and ty if u try
This dude doesn’t know anywhere NEAR enough about engineering principles, let alone aviation design engineering, to collaborate with such knowledgeable channels. He’s on par with the garbage “Dark” channels to me: just another video that uses a Wikipedia page for the script.
@@dillan6134 But he has great narrative skills
@@FoundAndExplained You should make a vid on the Bartini-57.
Rene was well respected outside of his home country as well. They actually named a city after him in Alberta, Canada. :)
You’re right, Leduc is just outside of Edmonton , Alberta Canada. But I have a hunch it was more likely named after a fur trading, farming, or oil Leduc than this aviation Leduc.
The "grognard " is a notable piece of interest I think. It was perhaps one step closer to production. Same for the "taon". Many thanks from the French community for covering a very rich era of our aviation.
Sadly, we often came with unusual and more or less practical ideas, but most of the time the governement either kill it or let it die / let other nation buy it. Politicians are really the worst ennemy of scientists and engineer. At least these project looks cool in museums and youtube channels like this one bring a bit of light on them.
fun fact
taon means horsefly in french
@@cyberdemon6517 and Taon is also the acronym of NATO, the competition it was built for.
Man this is awesome!! I've read about this french machine and was hopping to watch some content about it. Glad it was you! EXCELLENT WORK
Thank you so much!
One of my grandpa’s best friends was the (or one of the?) test pilots of the Leduc, and he once got severly injured ejecting from it. Our families still are neighbours.
This plane was so genius and ahead of its time ....
I never knew such a plane actually existed and flew that early 😮
Luckily for me...Paris is a few kilometers away.... I got to see that wonder 😁
Thank you !
Very good video, French plane programs are very interesting and I would recommend you cover the Griffon (Ramjet fighter that was a competitor to the mirage III) but also the various Mirage Mach 3 programs, including the Mirage MZI-46Q (Mach IV capable interceptor with a ramjet).
I absolutely love this channel. I've been studying and researching military aircraft since I was a kid in the late '80s - early 90's where I discovered that my hometown of Stratford CT was ground zero for the development and production of the F4U Corsair.
Sounds like another video idea!
Awesome looking plane. I think the guy who designed Blake 7's Liberator must have seen the 21/22 as the main body of the Liberator bears a striking resemblance to the cockpit of the plane.
me with a time machine in 1930: «René, il faut qu'on cause. So if I were you I'd design it a bit differently, with a cockpit on the top with pyrotechnics to eject the seat, an automatic gun, and missiles that hangs to their target automatically based on heat... I'd call it Rafale, if we can have a couple of dozens ready by 1938 that would be nice. I sketched some things, with electronics that don't rely on tubes but silicium devices called transistors. Also that last diagram is a new type of bomb, it's got enriched uranium, plutonium and a core of tritium, if anything goes wrong it could wipe Berlin or Moscow.»
I didn't realise the idea of the ramjet dated all the way back to the 30s. Amazing!
This looks like something I would make as a child 10/9 would fly
It is exactly like something I'd draw when I was eight, just without all the L-Shape guns sticking out of it everywhere
I am very happy to see the a person who speak about french aircraft because i'm french and the french youtuber speak only about american aircraft (this is cool but i want to learn more about our air history ) thanks ❤❤
Requesting videos on the following:
-switchblade aircraft designs such as the FA-37 Talon from the ‘05 movie “Stealth” or the X-02 Wyvern from the Ace Combat franchise (the concept, not the actual fighters I mentioned)
-Super Tomcat-21 and ASF-14
-the NATF program as a whole
-early ATF proposals
-Sea Apache
-F-20 Tigershark
-Bae SABA
-Lockheed Martin’s Advanced Technology Bomber proposal
-Northrop’s proposal for what would become the F-117 Nighthawk
-Interstate TDR
-JSF proposals OTHER THAN the X-32 and X-35
-XFV-12
-Gloster Meteor
-the proposals that didn’t win the F-X program that spawned the F-15 Eagle
In the same style we have the S0 9000 "TRIDENT" , a really particular plane too, with a really cool design ^^ !
I'm french and Thank for you for your videos in this concept !
This guy was incredible!
I like the design, but with some modifications could be used today…. 😮
Amazing vision. Happy LeDuc was able to build his creation. Truly a gifted engineer!
Thanks for another great video! No more patron names at the end of your vids anymore?
You could have mentioned that the Ram jet is still beeing used nowadays for missiles. Because that was the core of the idea. If you are interested in the Griffon, maybe then the Trident will be interesting. One thing i thought was cool: On your video at Musée de l'air et de l'espace, we can see a Payne Katty behind, another pretty cool machine, and another crazy inventor... Nice video, keep it up, and thanks!
F-104: "They call me Lawndart."
LEDUC: "Hold my absinthe."
Man I love learning about weird airplanes and jets. Your videos grab my attention every single time I see one. Great job buddy ❤
Cheers from St. Louis, Missouri USA (former home of McDonell-Douglass)
thank you thats a lovely comment!
Pilot: Where do I sit?
Engineer: yes
I'm using that phrase whenever it fits from now on.
"That didn't stop Leduc!"
I swear to god the french make insane planes.
Just look at an A380.
They produce a mixed bag.
Their WW1 rifle was apparently terrible, but if I remember correctly the AMX30 was an excellent design.
@@Ag3nt0fCha0snot true, they basically made modern aviation with the SPAD 13 and even modern tank with the Renault FT17.
Hats off to the boys in purple-Don’t forget the ASLA2- B fighter pod built by the French & the Alecranians just north of the Hilltop mountains in Zabomby. They also designed a macro wave powered can opener which saved the troops in Malayans, Ireland.
Thank you for such a informative video, he was way ahead of his time.
The turbojet-ramjet hybrid concept would live on in some other aircraft, most notably the A-12/SR-71, which used it to go mach 3. From what I've heard the engines could have pushed it faster, the limiting factor was heating of the airframe from high-mock air compression against it. In that design the turbojets were running the entire flight, but at high speed most of the air was bypassing them and going straight to the afterburner, hence functioning mostly as a ramjet. It can be noted that the SR-71's engine nacelles looked pretty similar to the fuselage of this aircraft, with a central spike and annular inlet, but the SR-71 had the pilot in a central fuselage rather than the engine nosecone.
🇫🇷 merci !! Superbe video sur l'extrordinaire Leduc, avec votre accent c'est super !! . Comme les francais sont presque aussi dingues que les britanniques 😅 on inventes toujours des "trucs" en 1954 on ne dit pas Viêtnam... mais "indochina" ..😢
One of the most beautiful and innovative design ever. The cocpit and it's unique surrounding glass was in itself a jewelery masterpiece !
I remember people saying your channel was a Mustard rip off but you are doing your own thing and it's different and it's awesome
I just saw and heard the best add in my life. man that was hillarious!
Also that tandem one is terrifying; one engine packing it in would result in one hell of an imbalance.
That was a real thing for the SR-71, whose engines were mixed-cycle, operating as ramjets at high speed/high altitude. It was called an unstart.
If you think about it, the Blackbird's wide spaced, two engine layout was similar to the Leduc 030, but with a central fuselage.
Mean like when Howard Hughes crashed his
0:11 jesus thunderbirds are gooooo😂 ❤ if they bounce that thing off the atmosphere they can extend their range to infinatum😮
can't wait to watch another facinating video!
The way this guy links the sponsors using the theme of the video is great and hilarious. For sure Leduc would have use Private Internet Access🤣
Never subscribed, yet ...and now as you've intertwined sponsor product into the subject content, well.. you guys just knocked off a potential subscriber.
Where is the French version of "Area 51" located? The French were always on the cutting edge of aviation.
Well, learnt something today! Pretty smart to manage to combine the turbine jet with the ram jet - and by a Frenchman!
Thanks for the video. 😎🇦🇺
Leduc the supersonic ballpoint pen.
Bonjour de France. Marvelous job you did. Humoristic, realistic, with very cool animations...Félicitation. (P.S: one little thing, in French 99 times out of 100 you never prononce the last letter. ;) )
Has French, i'm verry proud to see this plane here, thanks :)
4:45 I love that they started to crack themselves up reading the sponsorship
Good video, amazing aircraft.
I feel like this might have been at least partly the inspiration for Thunderbird 1.
Have you ever hears of the comic book "Blake and Mortimer" ? In the first books they use a plane called the Espadon which is very similar to this Leduc 22 (vingt deux if you want tonbe french enough)
Fun fact : The nord AA-20 air-to-air missile was radar guided. 1st tested in 1948 using a JU-88 as the firing aircraft 😁!
It was an evolution of the AA-10 which was nothing more than a former german wire guided air to air missile.
The AA-20 was never put into service, being replaced by the R-530.
It evolved into the AS-30 (radar) and then the AS-30L air to ground laser guided missile which was used to great effect during the 1st gulf war!
If both programs (Leduc 022 and AA-20) had been completed, there would have been an interceptor with the same specs as the F-104 by the early 50s!
I've always been interested in early jet "experimental aircraft." There is lots of info available on American designs like the x-planes or the many German designs for jet fighters and bombers at the wnd of WWII, but this is the first time I ever heard of this interesting French design. Thanks for the fascinating video!
Screw the infirmation, all these wonderful animations and drawings, I want to see Leducs reaction to that commercial NOW 😂😂😂
@11:57.....i also like the way you say it with a deep voice "LEDUC"......😅😅😅😅
The front section is made of glass, it looks scary no matter how it looks 😱😱
I had the honour of seeing the LeDuc 022 and its cousins at the Paris Museum of the Air at Le Bourget. You guys have to go! It's so cute!
Please do the Nord 1500 Griffon! Also, what about the closed wing idea?
Gotta wonder if Gerry Anderson maybe got his inspiration for Thunderbird 1 from the Leduc.
I was actually wondering the same
I really think so
Personally, I think Gerry Anderson might have taken more inspiration for Thunderbird 1 from the A4B, a proposal by Werner Von Braun to extend the range of the V2 missile by putting wings on it.
Google it, you'll be amazed at how similar artist's renderings of the A4B and Thunderbird 1 look.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
All that power was required to lift the pilots hefty ball bag. I've got chills just looking at it.
I can't believe ive never heard of this plane before, incredible.
Always waiting for your fascinating precisely documented videos and their top notch CGI illustrations. So, just a little tip (again, you will say😁😉) about pronunciation. At 2:08 the name Breguet rhymes with /gay/ and not with /jay/ (and no silly pun intended here). And fear not, mate: your pronunciation of Leduc (like the now duly amended Dassault one) was absolutely flawless 👍
At this level, we no longer talk about test pilots...
The one who made the flight above Mach 2, Yvan Littolff, had to pray that the cabin remained intact.
I want to go back in time and show Top Gun: Maverick to Leduc.
Imagine his reaction when he sees the Dark Star
He was ahead of his time
One of the most unusual cockpits in an aircraft ever….
Very good video and information. My grandfather worked on all Leduc prototypes. It's a shame René Leduc's photo isn't the right one. But the rest of the video is very good.
You gotta love that early 20th century creativity.
Keep the videos coming!!
I love the idea of "pffff silly pilots with your normal jet engines." *in a French accent
Very interesting video. Thanks!
A video about the Nord 1500 Griffon would be quite interesting.
perfect addition to the Fallout universe
That must've sucked being the engineers at that company going from an experimental jet to hydraulic equipment
I've wanted to learn more about this craft for some time.
Fabulous video. Plz do one on the Griffon and the Fairey Delta 2
Albert Fonó In 1915 proposed a solution for increasing the range of artillery, comprising a gun-launched projectile combined with a ramjet propulsion unit. This was to make it possible to obtain a long range with low initial muzzle velocities, allowing heavy shells to be fired from relatively lightweight guns. Fonó submitted his invention to the Austro-Hungarian Army but the proposal was rejected.
Wow! amazing video!
I saw it in real life at the museum of air and space at le Bourget airport a few years ago. Very impressive plane. Could you talk about the Dassault Mirage III V-01 or the S.N.C.A.S.O. SO 9000 Trident I ? They are in the same hall of the museum.
I know it is true, but watching the pictures it still seems an alternate history tale.
You had me at, "Those devious Germans." Subbed!
The picture appearing repeatedly in this video supposed to be the man who designed these aircrafts is the picture of an homonym, a french politician, René Alexandre Leduc, born in 1901. The aircrft designer was René Henri Leduc, born in 1898.
please make a video of the mirage F1, a true engineering beauty
(i'm french. also i think breguet is pronounced "bre-gay" cuz there's a U after the G. that's only what i think.)
Fascinating...It blows my mind that people had already designed jet engines as early as before WW1...
Quemstion! Who does your comic art, lovely stuff! Really adds contrast and panache to your productions. Cheers!
I would very much like to see a video on the Nord Griffon and it's potential prototypes
Loved the video.
Something to mention : the man shown several times as René Leduc, for instance at 1 min 55 s, isn't the right man. And at around 5 minutes, write Leduc 010 instead of Leduc 010.
Can definitely see the lineage towards the A12/SR71 with the twin engine version in particular. Sharing the same ramjet/turbojet hybrid concept too.
Now I want to name my future kid Leduc. I love that name.
'The Duke' is an excellent name in English as well. ;-)
@@stevetheduck1425 lol. Yeah I figured
that thing looks like it has a turning radius of a boat
'Leduc' is also a brand of short lived exceptional electric guitars!
Pilot:i wonder why it so loud?
Engineer:look back
Pilot: WAİT A DAMN SECOND
Now you must make a video about the Trident. A Ram Jet too, although visually less impressive. And she actually flew, dropped from a Languedoc cargo plane like a X-15. I still have her Heller 1/100 model, extremely old and pretty bad, by the way.
The French military aircraft from that era were formidable, if only because most of them had developed from those crazy German projects from the end of WW II, and the French engineers were pretty savvy too. And everyone was eager to build something! Marcel Breguet (Henceforth Dassault) was particularly successful, with his low pace development / low risk philosophy. Many of the post war revolutionary fighters that came up have German ancestry. Even the DH-108, the Northrop Flying Wing (XB-49 I believe) the SAAB Tunnan and others.
Et aujourd'hui? Rafale, Rafale et encore le Rafale... Fini les Ouragan, les Mistere, les Fouga et les Mirage III, IV. V, F1 et 2000. Dommage... 😞
The trident had no ram jet but a rocket engine
Frances Le Bourget National Air & Space Museum is a must! Everything from testosterone and adrenaline death machines like the Leduc 022, too the diminutive Night Witches exhibit.