Tractor rear wheel: starts with the Bauer and finishes with the DeWalt. "Let's try taking out a fresh bolt here with the DeWalt." Proceeds to start with the Bauer and finish with the DeWalt, again.
@@radozeman You clearly said you would see if the DeWalt could do a fresh bolt, then proceeded with the Bauer again. You never did a "fresh" bolt with the DeWalt.
"Let's try taking out a fresh bolt here with the DeWalt." ua-cam.com/video/ZwnY5yyG_mY/v-deo.html ...then you use the Bauer, which means it's no longer a "fresh bolt" when you put the DeWalt on it. I'm not the only one who caught this, either; read other comments below.
"Well some of you might argue that the Bauer did all of the work for the Dewalt, so let's start with a fresh bolt." Starts again with the Bauer and finishes with the Dewalt.....
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Dude starts off by saying "No battery level indicator" It's on the battery, and we all know they don't charge them up 100%. So right away I knew it was a Harbor Freight hate video.
The (Dude) does not hate H-F. He just knows there junk low price ,use once or twice tools .If this guy wasn't so funny with his sarcasm of the english language on these junk tools ,most of us would never watch the videos
@@roguewarr4662 a lot of what Hf sells is junk but if you do your research they also sell some great tools the 1/2 breaker bar is a stellar value at 15 bucks the US general boxes are pretty darn good and the 3 ton super duty jack is as good as the snap-on
@@aaronporter2180 Mr PORTER your right ,they do sell some good tools ,and are getting better all the time .And as always low prices . Just think ,where would we go if we did not have a H/F nearby .Flea market!!!!!!
You literally said you were going to try a second bolt on the big tire with the DeWalt without using the Bouer on it first then you do the exact same thing and use the Bouer on it first.
You still used the Bauer first.that really kills the video for me.you should've just hit the bottom bolt, not that hard my guy 🤷🏽♂️. Even if it didn't move, the Dewalt didn't have to deal with the rust that the Bauer shook up
If you're working on engines the bauer works just fine for removing bolts on intakes and accessories, transmission bellhousing bolts, transfer case bolts and works with just about all parts. It's cheaper and it works decent. I've been using the earthquake xt for over two years and it never let's me down. I have the little bauer 125 and it works perfectly fine. I'm looking at the bauer now for an inbetween impact. I work gas and diesel engines for a living and I haven't had many issues.
While I would not call the video “stupid”, I do believe your point about the 60v battery making the test null is what I have come to see in other videos where the author wants the DeWalt to win. Good job Jose.
@@grizmt7779 while it makes it less of an apples to apples comparison, I don't think it makes it invalid. He's using resources available to the DeWalt gun, but those resources aren't available for the HF gun.
AS he mentionend at the beginning its NOT a 60V Battery :/ Also he didnt loose the bolt with the Bauer, this gun had his chance. But the Dewalt opened it within only a few seconds/hits.
I believe that he proved the Bauer tool being more economical is easily able to do the job of a home mechanic on a regular road vehicle. The DeWalt is more capable than the Bauer but does everyone need it? A train locomotive is able to tow more than a 1-ton pickup but does everyone need it?
Lol. All of you are missing a really basic point. If he wanted a true comparison, each bolt should have been loosened by one power tool. One bolt for Bauer and another bolt for DeWalt. What did he do? Use Bauer on a bolt to loosen it for awhile. When it moved a bit, he used DeWalt ON THE SAME BOLT. SMH. What he should have done to prove that DeWalt was a true mechanic tool is loosen a separate bolt not already worked on by Bauer. If he showed this, it would prove Bauer is only for light work and DeWalt a true mechanic tool
its not just the voltage that makes the difference but the amount of cells each pack has. the 3ah pack has more cells than the 1.5ah one and can deliver more current at the same voltage. id point out the other flaws but others have already covered them. i have no doubt the dewalt is simply just better but not by much and especially after seeing it perform nearly the same as the bauer with twice the available current draw... and when it came to the test where the bauer failed the dewalt had 3 times the available current draw... why not keep the 3ah pack on the dewalt when you did the heavy duty test? im guessing you probably did initially but it failed just like the bauer did.
I like to see when someone else has several different brands of drills, impacts, hand tools, etc. like I do. It helps me justify buying many of the same tools, but different brands. I like to compare how they all work, especially any HF tools. Thanks for the vids!
Bauer had plenty of time to break them loose but didn't the dewalt did it right away and it's rated at a lesser reverse torque than the Bauer . Harbor freight tools can be ok but they are never under rated they are usually fat on their ratings, so you're not going to get label claim for torque, but with more expensive tools you will probably get more than label claim .
@@yerwrng the dewalt had 3 times the torque because he switched to the 9ah pack. why do you think he switched to the 9 ah pack from the 3ah pack like the bauer had? because the dewalt performs exactly the same when supplied with equal amperage. the entire time he had 3ah batteries for both impacts but purposely chose to always use a bigger pack for the dewalt than the bauer. when he used the 3ah for the dewalt he used the 1.5 for the bauer and when he used the 3ah for the bauer he used the 9ah for the dewalt. the dewalt had 2-3 times the available current draw the entire video.
@@Zack-dk3pt The Bauer uses a cheaper brushed motor Milwaukee, dewalt, mikita... they all offer brushless motors which are more powerful as well . The motor in this Bauer is brushed the dewalt is brushless . The Bauer is something like $20 bucks cheaper than a Milwaukee...lol...I wouldn't touch a Bauer for that small difference you don't even get brushless motor. There are a few tests in here comparing impacts the harbor freight never does rated torque the brand's like Milwaukee and dewalt always meet or exceed claimed specs.
@@yerwrng so there should have been no need to "cheat" with the dewalt then.... why is it so hard for people to acknowledge the fact that this guy fudged the results in favor of dewalt on purpose?
@@Zack-dk3pt on a comparison video it would be nice if the he kept things as close as possible not doing so shows bias intent to deceive in favor of one. I however have seen other videos of people breaking lugs with the Bauer and it failed when similar sized and rated Milwaukee fuel had no issues breaking them loose ...I own the Milwaukee fuel line nor dewalt so I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do see and agree with you on keeping a comparison video... honest...
You did it again! You can't start with one impact then switch to DeWalt on the SAME bolt! How about doing it in the reverse order? Ridiculous. Need to try on separate bolts.
I know right. I keep looking for reviews for the Bauer corded driver and most of the "hate" against it is from people who don't do an actual test with fair comparison. I know DeWalt is probably better quality wise, but I doubt it warrants a double price premium.
so basically for half the price of a dewalt and a better warranty for a cheaper price with no hassle i just shouldnt work on heady duty farm equipment 🤔🤔 got it . ill buy the bauer .
@@jameslopez2675 I've deliberately torqued a few lugnuts to 160ft.lbs and mine had no problem removing them. I've done over a dozen tire changes, brake jobs and axle/ wheel bearing replacements and my 1/2" Bauer didn't even struggle. I only use impact sockets, they deliver more torque and flex more than the hardened chrome sockets which can snap. I plan on doing an actual review of it in use on my channel pretty soon
@@hpelisr the impact can only accept 20v that battery is rated up to 60v because it is interchangeable with tools that can accept up to 60v. that 60v rating has absolutely 0 affect on the performance of the impact vs a 20v max pack in the same situation. the only differences are how many cells are in a pack and how much of a charge they have. this is why he used a pack that had 2 to 3 times the available current draw for the dewalt compared tot he bauer the whole video because he intentionally gave the dewalt an unfair advantage to undermine the bauer.
Was supposed to switch the Dewalt 60v battery to 20volt battery, did that happen or did I miss something? I,m going to have to watch this whole thing again.😕
I picked up one on the last day of the sidewalk sale for $44.50. I don't use an impact that often, but even at the normal price point, its nice to have in the tool box.
HA! Similarly I lucked out at a local sidewalk sale about two weeks ago and also scored one about $45. I only seldom need such an impact so the full price is too much for my needs, but since I have other Bauer tools, the $45 is great. I like it. So far it's worked well in testing.
I learned the hard way that harbor freight has only a 90 day warranty. If you want a warranty that compares with the larger, well known brands, you must pay for it. Another thing about harbor freight is that they may not sell replacement parts for the item that you bought. Out of warranty with no extended warranty you may have to just throw it in the trash.
True, one way they cut costs, so far though I've had far better "warranty" experience with my local HF then I have had with one of the big name brands (Milwaukee).
We use torque sticks in my shop but as a tip for the new guys we always tell them "you cant get fired for over torquing the wheels, but you can get fired if they fall off"
No, but you can decimate the chrome covers on the lug nuts by over impacting them. My wife got new tires and a shop trainee trashed 12 of the lug nuts and they tried to charge me an ungodly amount to replace them by saying that it "just happens". I knew better and got them to eat the cost but how many don't fight them? It's about being proud. Be a professional, do it right.
@@RadicalMaximus it actually does happen, those suck and shouldn't come from the manufacturer. I've removed those just by taking the lug nuts off. I work for a chevy dealership now and even here we tell customers it happens.
@@StillElias Mine were all just fine for 10+ years and one shop ruined half of them in one tire change. They set the torque too high to put the nuts on faster rather than relying on the hammer action. Once they are tightened the wrench keeps hammering until the caps are ruined. Once in awhile one might just come off but if it happens often it is the wrench setting or the operator.
If you put a 60v battery on the Bauer would it take the big lugs off? Seems like you said you had a 1.5 MAh and a 3.0 MAh battery on the Bauer. But this video answered my question can the Bauer take off standard civilian car wheel lugs. I'm guessing if you got a bigger battery for the Bauer it could even be stronger
The 60v is only 20v the impact! Bigger batteries are like larger gas tanks on a vehicle, they don't give more power, just last longer, though using too small of a battery can be hard on the battery.
Good video. My last duty station in the Navy was a Squadron in the Philippines. Ordered a Chicago Electric in 1990 from Harbor Freight. Used it to remove a primary sprocket nut on my Harley Davidson . Worked good and it still works. Even tough got to plug it in.
the extra adapter on the 3/4" socket will suck away a lot of torque, and upset the harmonic relationships that impact wrenches rely on to operate most efficiently.
Yeah never understood adapters or extensions on Impact wrenches. That is why they have special hardened sockets. They have a special purpose. Ext/adapters shouldn't be used I thought...
The dewalt removed the bolt ( after ) the bauer had already released some of the tension. Didn't see the dewalt remove one of the secure bolts ( completely from the large wheel, from start to finish.
Please help me. I am new to power tools. I am planning to buy a tool shop impact wrench from Menards here in Minnesota. It is 18V, 4Ah Lithium-Ion. Torque claim is 220 ft lb. It is selling for $59.99 on Black Friday. My issue is, this is an in house product from Menards and they never ever have any reviews on their site. My SUV has 110 ft lb required for lug nuts tightened, 5 per wheel. From your experience do you think I can remove all 20 lug nuts on one go with a single charge on the 18v, 4Ah battery? The other one I may be leaning towards would probably be Bosch’s IDH 182-02 on amazon, it’s an 1/2” impact wrench plus a 1/4” driver but no where on the pictures or description do I see anything related to lug nuts which gives me an impression if it can really be used for the purpose. Note that it has a torque rating of around 137.5 ft lb and comes with two 18V and two 2.0Ah battery . I am stuck!
Battery wise you shouldn’t have any problems, torque wise though it might not quite be able to, we have an old craftsman that claims 200, but can’t loosen lug nuts, doesn’t have enough breakaway torque. Especially if the lug nuts have been on for a while!
Do us both a favor. Don't buy Menard's anything! junk. I cant even imagine what their battery tools are like, and I don't want to find out. John Menard must laugh every time another sucker walks through the door- all the way to the bank.
Seems like a fair comparison to me - the Bauer wasn't moving the tractor bolt, but it was faster at 100 ft lbs (I'm typically only going to need 75 ft lbs or less). However, I will say that I'm not using a battery operated impact to move anything that is at 300 ft.lbs. I have a 2 ft breaker bar for that - and a BIG corded 120v impact if I really can't budge it. I would have liked to see you use the air impact for the last test.
This battery will work with a 20 volt tool or the new line of 60 volt tools. BUT in a 20 volt tool it only runs at 20 volts with 6.0 amp hours of run time. In a 60 volt tool it runs at the necessary 60 volts BUT with only a 2 amp hour run time. This battery is designed to run ALL your tools instead of having many different batteries for many tools.
The 6a battery will have a higher output amperage thus giving it more guts and the dude knows it even saying it gives it more power. This vid seems very bias
The Bauer impact had a slightly drained battery, whereas the Dewalt with the more powerful battery had plenty of juice to continue with the larger tractor tire. Some of the latest impact wrenches from Harbor Freight appear to have undergone some improvements and may be able to hold their own in your 'testing' procedures.
Only 2 stripped lug nuts i've ever had an issue with and ones that were ridiculously over tightened were from shops. After the second stripped lug nut and spending an hour trying to remove it, i swore i'd never let a shop put the wheels on my cars ever again. No problem since!
Same here, broke one of my best breaker bars trying then had to take it back and have the garage untorque them. Them main problem here being if I had that out on the road I would have been screwed, plus I was leery after that of all lugs being stretched and ready to pop
Though, I only occasionally use harbor freight tools when I know I’m not going to use it everyday, though I like them as they keep the competitions pricing in check. If HF cuts it close for a 500$ discount like compared to some snap on items, it may just be worth it. The name brands could price their items higher if harbor freight wasn’t here to keep em low. Quit the HF hate. If they weren’t here, dewalt drills will be 500$ as well as brands like Milwaukee as everybody needs drills. We must thank harbor freight for that.
True, well said. Also he didn't mention the price. The Bauer is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better value. It could do 90% of what the Dewalt could do, for 10% the price. I paid $56 for my Bauer 1/2" impact wrench. Talk about a good deal. The Bauer does more for your hard earned coinage. I don't think it's a fair comparison. He should have compared is against a smaller DeWalt. One that's in the Bauer's class. Not a honkin' 60v battery for pity's sakes.
@@mosesm.3431 the bauer did the exact same job and the only reason he switched the dewalt to the 9ah battery from the 3 ah is because it failed the test just the same as the bauer when on a level playing field. the 60v doesnt make a difference at all because the drill can only accept 20v no matter what. what made the difference is 9ah vs 3 ah which allows for 3 times the current draw which equals more torque.
Great review but you should have tried the DeWalt first on the lugs but you tried the Bauer and that might of loosened it up and made it easier for the DeWalt 👍
The Bauer was well worth the $72 I paid for it to leave it in my truck. I'll use it with a Bauer drill for my camper use. Add a couple of lights, a fan or two, and the radio, I'll be quite happy with this 20 volt platform.
What I got from this test was that for removing wheel lugs this is more than enough for what I need. I’ve seen so many Milwaukee’s that are $250+ and they all more or less have the same torque. I don’t need an overly expensive torque wrench for just removing wheel lugs. I don’t plan on working on tractors anytime soon
I have a Rigid 1/2 inch Brushless 20 Volt impact that is supposed to have like 1300 ft pounds of torque. I would like to see it up against the Dewalt 1/2 inch impact that you are using here.
Is using a torque wrench recommended for tightening lug nuts after using a impact driver? (I just got the Bauer for changing out old off brand lug nuts).
Those 60V De Walt batteries are flex volt. That means they have more poles on the batteries and for 60V applications, they are 60V, for 20V they are 20. If it was a full 60 V, you'd destroy the impact. The reason you have more power with the 60V could be it's a new battery. If you used a new 20V battery, it would work equally well to the 60.
I was having tons of trouble getting 1/2" diameter bed bolts out of a 40 year old Chevy truck none of my air or battery impacts came close. I bought a HF earthquake xt 20v 1/2" that claimed 1200 ft.lbs. it still did not remove the nuts on all of them, it did however twist them into like they had been put into a pencil sharpener. I was very impressed. It is the only impact I use now for over a year. Wouldn't trade it for 2 DeWalts.
The Bauer seemed to shake a lot more when used on the tractor tyre, I think the adaptor seemed to really affect it’s performance. I think it would perform a lot better with a larger battery.
@@radozeman Strange because you would have more current and in turn a higher output of power, hence why most manufacturers such as Makita and Milwaukee state you should use 5ah battery minimum for their impact wrenches, for optimum performance. Still a great purchase for the price. I recently picked up some heavy duty Impact sockets which have actually help my impact take off larger nuts and bolts due to the extra mass. I prefer the chromoly sockets.
@@MrZimmaframe You are correct, it does make a difference. Why did he step up the battery on the Dewalt for the test and not for the Bauer. Very biased test!
Ive got the bauer 450 but i think its more 350 but i paid 100$ for mine on sale at hf . Im not even going to complain 😂 . Works fine for qhat i use it for.
I agree w/everyone you used the Bauer to soften the bolt , the Dewalt to finish it. Test voided. Never make it as Consumer Report Tester.(Opinion; Dewalt is a bit better.I only use these tools in emergency situations)
@@radozeman you did not use the dewalt with the smaller battery to see if it would take it off. You used the bigger battery and never tried the smaller one.
@@princeboateng694 thats where youre wrong he did try the 3ah on that bolt with the dewalt but it failed just the same as the bauer did with a 3ah pack...
@@radozeman But if it can actually do 1200 ft/lbs, regardless of its proprietary battery type, it has earned its special place as shop champion. Especially when the next step up is a cutting torch - the regional executioner.
@@radozeman You do have a valid point for which I have no answer as I've never needed to measure torque. Is there an apparatus that is readily available to do this function testing? I can't answer that, and a quick search of Google didn't yield anything of value with which to answer.
The reason the capacity of the battery impacts how the tool performs is due to the discharge rate (C rating) of the battery. Lithium cells have a nominal voltage of 3.7v but honestly fluctuate from aboot 4.2v to 3.2 depending on how much charge is remaining. (They'll go below 3.2v sure, but generally considered dead at that point, and the protection circuitry usually will shut it off to protect it.) So your 18v or 20v packs will typically be 5 cells in serial. Generally the smallest battery will just be 5 single cells in serial, and will have an atrociously bad discharge rate. (This is especially noticeable with Ryobi's 1.2ah cheap packs.) Going up a step in capacity generally means going into a battery that has multiple cells in parallel as well. So for ryobi their 2.4ah pack is 2 stacks of 5 cells in series. This yields a flat out doubling of the discharge rate on the battery pack. Now if your tool is attempting to draw say 15 amps, but your cells can only sustain 10amps, single stack batteries are going to limit the performance. Double stacks will handle the 15 amps just fine. Sadly few tool manufacturers actually list the C-rating for the batteries, so this can be hard to easily demonstrate. As for your 20v/40v flexpower pack, it almost certainly has 4 stacks of batteries, and mosfets to switch half the stacks from parallel to serial. It is unsurprising that it would give superior performance when it has a C-rating of "yes" :)
Totally agree bud , all my phantom and other drone batteries i have all display a C rating although in cheaper batteries i think the companys just make shit up 👍👍
The flex volts would actually be 3 stacks of 20. And yes your right they don't list their discharge rate, unfortunately I think most people think the amp-hour rating on the battery is that, when it is not.
You do realize that black rubber ring on your air line is supposed to be located further back to stop the hose from being pulled in too far into a hose real.
@@radozeman A new pair of boots don't come with the laces tires either. Doesn't mean it's supposed to stay that way. It's a stop if you don't have a real it's not needed. If your real is located in your celling it keeps the line from being pulled out of reach.
Ridgid already has the technology with auto torque setting on their Octane 1/2 impacts. Put on "A" setting and hits the point dead on. It does it carefully too.
When the Bauer 1/2" 20volt impact driver could not break loose the large tire from the huge farm tractor I see that the 60v DeWalt battery mysteriously re appeared. 😠
What would you recommend for a cam pulley bolt air impact and battery powered? My cheap Harbor Freight Impact couldnt get my neighbor's cam bolt off. And it struggles on slightly torqued lug nuts but will eventually get them.
Well since getting a good battery powered impact, my air impact hasn’t seen the light of day. And unless your working on large equipment I don’t think you can wrong with the Bauer.
Yea, either you got a bad one, or your lug nuts are WAY TOO tight! I've never had a problem getting vehicle lug nuts off with this. You're not using any adapters, are you? just one adapter can half the torque!
I bought the 3/8 and upgraded to the 1/2 not much of difference. Couldn't remove Lower control arm 22 mm bolt for camry. I'm going to get the xt earthquake 1200 lb of torque, hopping to get at least 400 lbs
HELLO!!! You said you can argue that the Bauer did a lot of the work, and you would be RIGHT. BUT!! did the SAME exact ERROR on the second bolt!!! The Bauer hit it for the longest time, and THEN you used the DEwalt. What you need to do is on a fresh bolt, use the DEWalt. Even then, it is not a quantitative test, but you get an idea.
The bauer seems to be about the same size as my dewalt xr midtorque, and that dewalt looks as big as my xr high torque. For $100 that bauer is good enough to keep at home for car maintenance.
450 ft-lbs of 'bolt breakaway' torque (or nut-bursting torque) is nothing more than a marketing term. If you check Earthquake XT 20V 3/8 impact wrench, you will see 'bolt breakaway torque' is 370 ft-lbs while max torque (which is also referred as fastening torque) is 160 ft-lbs. Also, Bauer corded impact wrench claims to have 1050 ft-lbs of bolt breakaway torque, while max is 300. They are all specified in Harbor Freight page. So, a lot of people mistakenly compare one tool's 'bolt breakaway torque' with other tool's 'max torque'. That's just not the right comparison, but nowadays, companies are trying to fool people by only specifying bolt breakaway torque, as that makes the tool look more powerful. DCF889 said to have 400 ft-lbs of 'max' torque, so its breakaway torque will be like 500 to 600, if Dewalt decides to put it that way. (As Milwaukee claims their mid-torque impact wrench has 400 max and 600 breakaway torque).
can the torque be reduced on these things,,, looking for something i can use on truck and small projects as well like bikes or scooters..def dont need to torque things down to 450
'Tyres' are the big doughnut shaped rubber bits on the smaller round metal bits called 'wheels' - you were taking off the 'wheels' not the 'tyres'. Tip: if you're ever on the roadside and you can't loosen a wheel nut - try putting the jack under the tyre wrench and raising the jack.
hey i just bought the bauer 450 impact. it took out my ls engine harmonic balancer bolt out that was in over 200 ft lb of torque just fine no problem at all.
I purchased this because I already had the impact screwdriver and it really sucks. It not able to break loose wheel lug most of the time because ppl usually go to tire shops and they always over tighten just to be safe.
The smaller impacts aren’t meant for taking lug nuts off. Most of the ones I’ve seen are around 100ft lbs which is what most lug nuts are supposed to be.
Twice you used the Bauer first and finished with Dewalt. Why didn't you use the Dewalt on an untouched bolt first? Like you said, "The Bauer may have done the work already".
Having several bauer tools around and well liked but the compact 1/2 inch impact sucks. The 3/8 inch is fantastic though. Always using the 3 or 5 amh batteries
Lug nuts done too tight can shear off or in really cold weather can shear off. Ive had it happen on a front wheel drive CV joint where the centre nut had been hammered to get a split pin fitted. At -10C the thing sheared off - brittle fracture.
I'd like to see this test done with the Dewalt compared to the cordless Earthquake XT gun. With a coupon price of $229, the XT would easily give the Dewalt a run for its money and then some.
@@radozeman I'm alright with that since the XT comes as a package deal with the battery and optional extended warranty. From what I understand, HF plans to keep the Earthquake pneumatic and electric line in production for years to come since Earthquake is a product of their company Central Pneumatic.
Tractor rear wheel: starts with the Bauer and finishes with the DeWalt.
"Let's try taking out a fresh bolt here with the DeWalt."
Proceeds to start with the Bauer and finish with the DeWalt, again.
Well the Bauer couldn’t do it so wanted to see if the DeWalt could
@@radozeman You clearly said you would see if the DeWalt could do a fresh bolt, then proceeded with the Bauer again. You never did a "fresh" bolt with the DeWalt.
"Let's try taking out a fresh bolt here with the DeWalt."
ua-cam.com/video/ZwnY5yyG_mY/v-deo.html
...then you use the Bauer, which means it's no longer a "fresh bolt" when you put the DeWalt on it.
I'm not the only one who caught this, either; read other comments below.
Leland Fried I was thinking the same thing. 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Leland Fried true that!!!hahahaha
"Well some of you might argue that the Bauer did all of the work for the Dewalt, so let's start with a fresh bolt." Starts again with the Bauer and finishes with the Dewalt.....
Ernie Schatz dewalts are trash as well
And the higher voltage battery.
@@travischampagne3252 I will stand behind my dewalt. I use it to remove semi wheels with no problem
Bro even used the bigger battery smh I don’t care for the brands but at least do a honest review 😂
He also didn’t have the 8 amp hour battery that improves the Bauer by a lot.
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
Dude starts off by saying "No battery level indicator" It's on the battery, and we all know they don't charge them up 100%. So right away I knew it was a Harbor Freight hate video.
@David Sanchez Harbor Freight is getting better... They have some Nice Home Owner Tools...
The (Dude) does not hate H-F. He just knows there junk low price ,use once or twice tools .If this guy wasn't so funny with his sarcasm of the english language on these junk tools ,most of us would never watch the videos
@@roguewarr4662 a lot of what Hf sells is junk but if you do your research they also sell some great tools the 1/2 breaker bar is a stellar value at 15 bucks the US general boxes are pretty darn good and the 3 ton super duty jack is as good as the snap-on
@@aaronporter2180 Mr PORTER your right ,they do sell some good tools ,and are getting better all the time .And as always low prices . Just think ,where would we go if we did not have a H/F nearby .Flea market!!!!!!
I own a few Bauer tools, they are very strong and nice battery check is on every battery, gotta use the right size battery too
You literally said you were going to try a second bolt on the big tire with the DeWalt without using the Bouer on it first then you do the exact same thing and use the Bouer on it first.
I was but the Bauer wasn’t loosening the bolt at all.
You still used the Bauer first.that really kills the video for me.you should've just hit the bottom bolt, not that hard my guy 🤷🏽♂️. Even if it didn't move, the Dewalt didn't have to deal with the rust that the Bauer shook up
You beat me to it. Yea it makes no sense
Not an accurate test, I'll watch someone else testing these products.
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Good for you
If you're working on engines the bauer works just fine for removing bolts on intakes and accessories, transmission bellhousing bolts, transfer case bolts and works with just about all parts. It's cheaper and it works decent. I've been using the earthquake xt for over two years and it never let's me down. I have the little bauer 125 and it works perfectly fine. I'm looking at the bauer now for an inbetween impact. I work gas and diesel engines for a living and I haven't had many issues.
At 13:40 if you study the socket closely you can see the Bauer just starting to turn the bolt right as he stops and switches to the Dewalt.
If you actually watch the torque movement he was tightening with the bauer
I seen that to. I have a bauer 1/2 I take to the race track never falls me yet and it's been 6 years since I got it. Just use the 50v battery.
Stupid vid. You used the Bauer first on both bolts to loosen it. Then you used 60 volt battery pack on De Walt. Lame! Not a true comparison
While I would not call the video “stupid”, I do believe your point about the 60v battery making the test null is what I have come to see in other videos where the author wants the DeWalt to win. Good job Jose.
@@grizmt7779 while it makes it less of an apples to apples comparison, I don't think it makes it invalid. He's using resources available to the DeWalt gun, but those resources aren't available for the HF gun.
AS he mentionend at the beginning its NOT a 60V Battery :/
Also he didnt loose the bolt with the Bauer, this gun had his chance. But the Dewalt opened it within only a few seconds/hits.
I believe that he proved the Bauer tool being more economical is easily able to do the job of a home mechanic on a regular road vehicle. The DeWalt is more capable than the Bauer but does everyone need it? A train locomotive is able to tow more than a 1-ton pickup but does everyone need it?
Lol. All of you are missing a really basic point. If he wanted a true comparison, each bolt should have been loosened by one power tool. One bolt for Bauer and another bolt for DeWalt. What did he do? Use Bauer on a bolt to loosen it for awhile. When it moved a bit, he used DeWalt ON THE SAME BOLT. SMH. What he should have done to prove that DeWalt was a true mechanic tool is loosen a separate bolt not already worked on by Bauer. If he showed this, it would prove Bauer is only for light work and DeWalt a true mechanic tool
its not just the voltage that makes the difference but the amount of cells each pack has. the 3ah pack has more cells than the 1.5ah one and can deliver more current at the same voltage. id point out the other flaws but others have already covered them. i have no doubt the dewalt is simply just better but not by much and especially after seeing it perform nearly the same as the bauer with twice the available current draw... and when it came to the test where the bauer failed the dewalt had 3 times the available current draw... why not keep the 3ah pack on the dewalt when you did the heavy duty test? im guessing you probably did initially but it failed just like the bauer did.
I was suspicious of the battery replacement on the Dewalt as well. Why would you do that???
I like to see when someone else has several different brands of drills, impacts, hand tools, etc. like I do. It helps me justify buying many of the same tools, but different brands. I like to compare how they all work, especially any HF tools. Thanks for the vids!
Hard to beat Harbor Freight for just the average DIYer
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I wonder why you used the bauer first on both lager bolts then used the dewalt. Not a fair comparison, why not try the dewalt on a fresh bolt ?
Bauer had plenty of time to break them loose but didn't the dewalt did it right away and it's rated at a lesser reverse torque than the Bauer . Harbor freight tools can be ok but they are never under rated they are usually fat on their ratings, so you're not going to get label claim for torque, but with more expensive tools you will probably get more than label claim .
@@yerwrng the dewalt had 3 times the torque because he switched to the 9ah pack. why do you think he switched to the 9 ah pack from the 3ah pack like the bauer had? because the dewalt performs exactly the same when supplied with equal amperage. the entire time he had 3ah batteries for both impacts but purposely chose to always use a bigger pack for the dewalt than the bauer. when he used the 3ah for the dewalt he used the 1.5 for the bauer and when he used the 3ah for the bauer he used the 9ah for the dewalt. the dewalt had 2-3 times the available current draw the entire video.
@@Zack-dk3pt The Bauer uses a cheaper brushed motor Milwaukee, dewalt, mikita... they all offer brushless motors which are more powerful as well . The motor in this Bauer is brushed the dewalt is brushless .
The Bauer is something like $20 bucks cheaper than a Milwaukee...lol...I wouldn't touch a Bauer for that small difference you don't even get brushless motor.
There are a few tests in here comparing impacts the harbor freight never does rated torque the brand's like Milwaukee and dewalt always meet or exceed claimed specs.
@@yerwrng so there should have been no need to "cheat" with the dewalt then.... why is it so hard for people to acknowledge the fact that this guy fudged the results in favor of dewalt on purpose?
@@Zack-dk3pt on a comparison video it would be nice if the he kept things as close as possible not doing so shows bias intent to deceive in favor of one. I however have seen other videos of people breaking lugs with the Bauer and it failed when similar sized and rated Milwaukee fuel had no issues breaking them loose ...I own the Milwaukee fuel line nor dewalt so I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do see and agree with you on keeping a comparison video... honest...
You did it again! You can't start with one impact then switch to DeWalt on the SAME bolt! How about doing it in the reverse order? Ridiculous. Need to try on separate bolts.
I know right. I keep looking for reviews for the Bauer corded driver and most of the "hate" against it is from people who don't do an actual test with fair comparison. I know DeWalt is probably better quality wise, but I doubt it warrants a double price premium.
You sound pretty salty.
you said you would go to a fresh bolt the second time and didnt so i guess you work for Dewalt
so basically for half the price of a dewalt and a better warranty for a cheaper price with no hassle i just shouldnt work on heady duty farm equipment 🤔🤔 got it . ill buy the bauer .
Yep, exactly!
Wrong this dam baur was not good enough to take of the nuts of my car, kept trying and battery started to smoke
If your car nuts are tightened to 100ft pounds or more by a shop add a little rust and time, and you have more lbs than this can handle
@@jameslopez2675 I've deliberately torqued a few lugnuts to 160ft.lbs and mine had no problem removing them. I've done over a dozen tire changes, brake jobs and axle/ wheel bearing replacements and my 1/2" Bauer didn't even struggle. I only use impact sockets, they deliver more torque and flex more than the hardened chrome sockets which can snap. I plan on doing an actual review of it in use on my channel pretty soon
I seen them for 59$ but that’s just the tool so pry 125
Hardly fair demo, Put a 60 Volt battery in the Bauer and let it follow the Dewalt with a 20 volt battery. You know DeWalt is owned by Stanley.
You do realize that the 60v battery is only 20v in that tool?! Putting 60v into 20v tool I don't think would end well.
@@radozeman Are you saying the Dewalt is a 60v tool?? I did not know they made a 60V tool. No wonder it is so much stronger??
At least bring the HF battery up to full charge first.
@@hpelisr the impact can only accept 20v that battery is rated up to 60v because it is interchangeable with tools that can accept up to 60v. that 60v rating has absolutely 0 affect on the performance of the impact vs a 20v max pack in the same situation. the only differences are how many cells are in a pack and how much of a charge they have. this is why he used a pack that had 2 to 3 times the available current draw for the dewalt compared tot he bauer the whole video because he intentionally gave the dewalt an unfair advantage to undermine the bauer.
Was supposed to switch the Dewalt 60v battery to 20volt battery, did that happen or did I miss something? I,m going to have to watch this whole thing again.😕
Excellent comparisons! Thank you for the informative video.
Dude you literally loosened all the bolts with the Bauer then finished them off with the dewalt. Not a good comparison video.
Why you start with the bauer and finish it off with the dewalt on both bolts?
I picked up one on the last day of the sidewalk sale for $44.50. I don't use an impact that often, but even at the normal price point, its nice to have in the tool box.
Exactly impacts are always nice to, especially an extra.
HA! Similarly I lucked out at a local sidewalk sale about two weeks ago and also scored one about $45. I only seldom need such an impact so the full price is too much for my needs, but since I have other Bauer tools, the $45 is great. I like it. So far it's worked well in testing.
Michael Nice!
I learned the hard way that harbor freight has only a 90 day warranty. If you want a warranty that compares with the larger, well known brands, you must pay for it. Another thing about harbor freight is that they may not sell replacement parts for the item that you bought. Out of warranty with no extended warranty you may have to just throw it in the trash.
True, one way they cut costs, so far though I've had far better "warranty" experience with my local HF then I have had with one of the big name brands (Milwaukee).
Did you win that t-shirt at a carnival?
Nope, on Amazon.
We use torque sticks in my shop but as a tip for the new guys we always tell them "you cant get fired for over torquing the wheels, but you can get fired if they fall off"
Very good point!
No, but you can decimate the chrome covers on the lug nuts by over impacting them. My wife got new tires and a shop trainee trashed 12 of the lug nuts and they tried to charge me an ungodly amount to replace them by saying that it "just happens". I knew better and got them to eat the cost but how many don't fight them? It's about being proud. Be a professional, do it right.
@@RadicalMaximus it actually does happen, those suck and shouldn't come from the manufacturer. I've removed those just by taking the lug nuts off. I work for a chevy dealership now and even here we tell customers it happens.
@@StillElias Mine were all just fine for 10+ years and one shop ruined half of them in one tire change. They set the torque too high to put the nuts on faster rather than relying on the hammer action. Once they are tightened the wrench keeps hammering until the caps are ruined. Once in awhile one might just come off but if it happens often it is the wrench setting or the operator.
@@RadicalMaximus sounds like they used the wrong size socket. From my years of experience I can say with confidence that shouldn't happen.
If you put a 60v battery on the Bauer would it take the big lugs off? Seems like you said you had a 1.5 MAh and a 3.0 MAh battery on the Bauer. But this video answered my question can the Bauer take off standard civilian car wheel lugs. I'm guessing if you got a bigger battery for the Bauer it could even be stronger
The 60v is only 20v the impact! Bigger batteries are like larger gas tanks on a vehicle, they don't give more power, just last longer, though using too small of a battery can be hard on the battery.
Good video. My last duty station in the Navy was a Squadron in the Philippines. Ordered a Chicago Electric in 1990 from Harbor Freight. Used it to remove a primary sprocket nut on my Harley Davidson . Worked good and it still works. Even tough got to plug it in.
the extra adapter on the 3/4" socket will suck away a lot of torque, and upset the harmonic relationships that impact wrenches rely on to operate most efficiently.
This is true.
Yeah never understood adapters or extensions on Impact wrenches. That is why they have special hardened sockets. They have a special purpose. Ext/adapters shouldn't be used I thought...
The good thing about newer torque wrenches is the settings. I have the ridgid octane and tighten my lug nuts on setting 1. Works great for me
That is true!
When I come across really overtightened lugs I just get my mg725 out if the lug won't come loose it'll break the stud right off
Unless rusted on for some reason should never need to be that tight.
@@radozeman your right but its still quite often.
my mt2769 outperforms snap ons and about the same as IRs
@RDAllen some WD-40 may help.
The dewalt removed the bolt ( after ) the bauer had already released some of the tension. Didn't see the dewalt remove one of the secure bolts ( completely from the large wheel, from start to finish.
Yeah this guy lied to us, he said he was going to use the dewalt on a fresh bolt and he went ahead again with the bauer first lol.
Please help me. I am new to power tools. I am planning to buy a tool shop impact wrench from Menards here in Minnesota. It is 18V, 4Ah Lithium-Ion. Torque claim is 220 ft lb. It is selling for $59.99 on Black Friday. My issue is, this is an in house product from Menards and they never ever have any reviews on their site. My SUV has 110 ft lb required for lug nuts tightened, 5 per wheel. From your experience do you think I can remove all 20 lug nuts on one go with a single charge on the 18v, 4Ah battery?
The other one I may be leaning towards would probably be Bosch’s IDH 182-02 on amazon, it’s an 1/2” impact wrench plus a 1/4” driver but no where on the pictures or description do I see anything related to lug nuts which gives me an impression if it can really be used for the purpose. Note that it has a torque rating of around 137.5 ft lb and comes with two 18V and two 2.0Ah battery . I am stuck!
Battery wise you shouldn’t have any problems, torque wise though it might not quite be able to, we have an old craftsman that claims 200, but can’t loosen lug nuts, doesn’t have enough breakaway torque. Especially if the lug nuts have been on for a while!
Wouldn't buy either tool. Recommend you pick something else.
Do us both a favor. Don't buy Menard's anything! junk. I cant even imagine what their battery tools are like, and I don't want to find out. John Menard must laugh every time another sucker walks through the door- all the way to the bank.
Seems like a fair comparison to me - the Bauer wasn't moving the tractor bolt, but it was faster at 100 ft lbs (I'm typically only going to need 75 ft lbs or less). However, I will say that I'm not using a battery operated impact to move anything that is at 300 ft.lbs. I have a 2 ft breaker bar for that - and a BIG corded 120v impact if I really can't budge it. I would have liked to see you use the air impact for the last test.
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So why did u cheat with the bigger battery on a DeWalt for the second bolt on the big tractor wheel?
There is NO 60v battery for use in a 20v Dewalt gun! He is wrong on that!!
This battery will work with a 20 volt tool or the new line of 60 volt tools. BUT in a 20 volt tool it only runs at 20 volts with 6.0 amp hours of run time. In a 60 volt tool it runs at the necessary 60 volts BUT with only a 2 amp hour run time. This battery is designed to run ALL your tools instead of having many different batteries for many tools.
The 6a battery will have a higher output amperage thus giving it more guts and the dude knows it even saying it gives it more power. This vid seems very bias
The Bauer impact had a slightly drained battery, whereas the Dewalt with the more powerful battery had plenty of juice to continue with the larger tractor tire.
Some of the latest impact wrenches from Harbor Freight appear to have undergone some improvements and may be able to hold their own in your 'testing' procedures.
That is true, Harbor Freight does have larger impact wrenches.
I tell any shop that works on my truck that if anybody uses an impact to torque the wheels, they will be buying me new lug nuts and studs.
As long as you have the proper torque stick on the impact it's just fine
@@nathanirvin5099 Yes, but this and most shops around my area doesnt, unfortunately.
Yea I've only really seen them at strictly tire shops around my area
It always seems like they think they need to tighten the piss out of lug nuts if you take them in.
@@radozeman lol actually its until the impact stops moving
I can't wait till beuer come out with that 8 amp battery coming soon lol
That would nice for some of the larger tools!
Cant help but think this really wasn't done fairly. What is the price difference?
Your story reminds me of the time I went to remove a tire after a shop put it on, and broke a breaker bar trying to remove the lugs.
Yep that don’t need to be that tight!
Only 2 stripped lug nuts i've ever had an issue with and ones that were ridiculously over tightened were from shops. After the second stripped lug nut and spending an hour trying to remove it, i swore i'd never let a shop put the wheels on my cars ever again. No problem since!
sounds like the CanTire here,breaker bar with a 5 foot 1"gas pipe lifted the truck off the stand but cracked them loose
Same here, broke one of my best breaker bars trying then had to take it back and have the garage untorque them. Them main problem here being if I had that out on the road I would have been screwed, plus I was leery after that of all lugs being stretched and ready to pop
Though, I only occasionally use harbor freight tools when I know I’m not going to use it everyday, though I like them as they keep the competitions pricing in check. If HF cuts it close for a 500$ discount like compared to some snap on items, it may just be worth it. The name brands could price their items higher if harbor freight wasn’t here to keep em low. Quit the HF hate. If they weren’t here, dewalt drills will be 500$ as well as brands like Milwaukee as everybody needs drills. We must thank harbor freight for that.
True, well said. Also he didn't mention the price. The Bauer is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better value. It could do 90% of what the Dewalt could do, for 10% the price. I paid $56 for my Bauer 1/2" impact wrench. Talk about a good deal. The Bauer does more for your hard earned coinage. I don't think it's a fair comparison. He should have compared is against a smaller DeWalt. One that's in the Bauer's class. Not a honkin' 60v battery for pity's sakes.
@@mosesm.3431 the bauer did the exact same job and the only reason he switched the dewalt to the 9ah battery from the 3 ah is because it failed the test just the same as the bauer when on a level playing field. the 60v doesnt make a difference at all because the drill can only accept 20v no matter what. what made the difference is 9ah vs 3 ah which allows for 3 times the current draw which equals more torque.
I don’t know how long and how many times I had to skip 10 seconds to actually get to the meat of the video
the battery for the DeWalt he used for the last part of the video cost more than the Bauer Impact driver
Great review but you should have tried the DeWalt first on the lugs but you tried the Bauer and that might of loosened it up and made it easier for the DeWalt 👍
The Bauer was well worth the $72 I paid for it to leave it in my truck. I'll use it with a Bauer drill for my camper use. Add a couple of lights, a fan or two, and the radio, I'll be quite happy with this 20 volt platform.
Oh I agree, I don’t think you can wrong with any of the Bauer except for maybe the 20v grinder.
Hey man. Just did a video on the new radio. Check it out!
What I got from this test was that for removing wheel lugs this is more than enough for what I need. I’ve seen so many Milwaukee’s that are $250+ and they all more or less have the same torque. I don’t need an overly expensive torque wrench for just removing wheel lugs. I don’t plan on working on tractors anytime soon
Perfect size for regular vehicle maintenance!
I have a Rigid 1/2 inch Brushless 20 Volt impact that is supposed to have like 1300 ft pounds of torque. I would like to see it up against the Dewalt 1/2 inch impact that you are using here.
Is using a torque wrench recommended for tightening lug nuts after using a impact driver? (I just got the Bauer for changing out old off brand lug nuts).
Love thepolitical jab! Bravo!
Those 60V De Walt batteries are flex volt. That means they have more poles on the batteries and for 60V applications, they are 60V, for 20V they are 20. If it was a full 60 V, you'd destroy the impact. The reason you have more power with the 60V could be it's a new battery. If you used a new 20V battery, it would work equally well to the 60.
Exactly, most people don't seem to realize that!
I was having tons of trouble getting 1/2" diameter bed bolts out of a 40 year old Chevy truck none of my air or battery impacts came close. I bought a HF earthquake xt 20v 1/2" that claimed 1200 ft.lbs. it still did not remove the nuts on all of them, it did however twist them into like they had been put into a pencil sharpener. I was very impressed. It is the only impact I use now for over a year. Wouldn't trade it for 2 DeWalts.
Oh yes that thing is a beast!
The Bauer seemed to shake a lot more when used on the tractor tyre, I think the adaptor seemed to really affect it’s performance. I think it would perform a lot better with a larger battery.
Bigger battery would little to no difference, and yes the adapter undoubtedly takes away some of the torque but it was used on both impacts.
@@radozeman Strange because you would have more current and in turn a higher output of power, hence why most manufacturers such as Makita and Milwaukee state you should use 5ah battery minimum for their impact wrenches, for optimum performance. Still a great purchase for the price. I recently picked up some heavy duty Impact sockets which have actually help my impact take off larger nuts and bolts due to the extra mass. I prefer the chromoly sockets.
@@MrZimmaframe You are correct, it does make a difference. Why did he step up the battery on the Dewalt for the test and not for the Bauer. Very biased test!
Ive got the bauer 450 but i think its more 350 but i paid 100$ for mine on sale at hf . Im not even going to complain 😂 . Works fine for qhat i use it for.
But did you use the 60volt battery on the Dewalt when taking the big bolts off
60v is still only 20v on the 20v tools!
The earthquake air impact is a beast
I agree w/everyone you used the Bauer to soften the bolt , the Dewalt to finish it. Test voided. Never make it as Consumer Report Tester.(Opinion; Dewalt is a bit better.I only use these tools in emergency situations)
This guy used the Baver.to lose the tractor bolt . I m wonder why he didn't use the dewalt on a different bolt 🤔
Well, 60V Battery will always Beat the 20V Battery right?
It's a 20v battery on a 20v tool, not 60!
Dont they make a 5AH batt for the 20v line?
Yes they do! Isn’t that what I used in this video? If not I have a video with the impact and the 5 AH battery somewhere
@@radozeman i thought the video was a 3 or 4? Anyway i would imagine the 5 be alittle stronger
Does dewalt 20 volt batteries fit that? I have a regular dewalt drill 20v
Can buy tool only, might do that
I tried that with the Hercules brand, they do fit, but do not work, I’m assuming the battery communicates with the tool.
Goodness gracious, Bauer is NOT designed for heavy equipment! This vid served no justice. It was a total waste of air time..
Well you cheated since the first bolt with the dewalt using the big battery with the big tractor tire
How so?
@@radozeman you did not use the dewalt with the smaller battery to see if it would take it off. You used the bigger battery and never tried the smaller one.
Yup. Guy's an idiot.
@@princeboateng694 thats where youre wrong he did try the 3ah on that bolt with the dewalt but it failed just the same as the bauer did with a 3ah pack...
You should get the earthquake XT it has 1200 pounds of torque. I have one and it's awesome
Only thing I don't like about that is it is another battery type.
Yes, I would like to see such a review done on that Earthquake XT. Will it do 1200 ft/lbs? Seeing is believing.
@@radozeman But if it can actually do 1200 ft/lbs, regardless of its proprietary battery type, it has earned its special place as shop champion. Especially when the next step up is a cutting torch - the regional executioner.
How would one even measure that kind of torque though? I don’t even have anything to reliably do 300. Which is as high as most torque wrench’s go.
@@radozeman You do have a valid point for which I have no answer as I've never needed to measure torque. Is there an apparatus that is readily available to do this function testing? I can't answer that, and a quick search of Google didn't yield anything of value with which to answer.
Nicely done brother...👍
The reason the capacity of the battery impacts how the tool performs is due to the discharge rate (C rating) of the battery. Lithium cells have a nominal voltage of 3.7v but honestly fluctuate from aboot 4.2v to 3.2 depending on how much charge is remaining. (They'll go below 3.2v sure, but generally considered dead at that point, and the protection circuitry usually will shut it off to protect it.) So your 18v or 20v packs will typically be 5 cells in serial. Generally the smallest battery will just be 5 single cells in serial, and will have an atrociously bad discharge rate. (This is especially noticeable with Ryobi's 1.2ah cheap packs.)
Going up a step in capacity generally means going into a battery that has multiple cells in parallel as well. So for ryobi their 2.4ah pack is 2 stacks of 5 cells in series. This yields a flat out doubling of the discharge rate on the battery pack. Now if your tool is attempting to draw say 15 amps, but your cells can only sustain 10amps, single stack batteries are going to limit the performance. Double stacks will handle the 15 amps just fine. Sadly few tool manufacturers actually list the C-rating for the batteries, so this can be hard to easily demonstrate.
As for your 20v/40v flexpower pack, it almost certainly has 4 stacks of batteries, and mosfets to switch half the stacks from parallel to serial. It is unsurprising that it would give superior performance when it has a C-rating of "yes" :)
Totally agree bud , all my phantom and other drone batteries i have all display a C rating although in cheaper batteries i think the companys just make shit up 👍👍
The flex volts would actually be 3 stacks of 20. And yes your right they don't list their discharge rate, unfortunately I think most people think the amp-hour rating on the battery is that, when it is not.
I'm reasonably sure the Bauer needs a 4.0 amp battery to access its full strength/torque.
Really doesn’t make that much difference, mostly just run time.
@@radozeman It makes a BIG Difference after 3 or 4 lug nuts...
It does make a difference.
You do realize that black rubber ring on your air line is supposed to be located further back to stop the hose from being pulled in too far into a hose real.
Not necessarily, not to mention that is where it comes installed.
@@radozeman A new pair of boots don't come with the laces tires either. Doesn't mean it's supposed to stay that way. It's a stop if you don't have a real it's not needed. If your real is located in your celling it keeps the line from being pulled out of reach.
You were supposed to use the D Walt first on the big tire but you started out once again with the Bauer
In the future do you think impacts will come with adjustable torque like torque wrenches?
Some of the news already are yes! Doesn’t sound like it is precise yet, but my understanding is it is app controlled on your phone.
Ridgid already has the technology with auto torque setting on their Octane 1/2 impacts. Put on "A" setting and hits the point dead on. It does it carefully too.
When the Bauer 1/2" 20volt impact driver could not break loose the large tire from the huge farm tractor I see that the 60v DeWalt battery mysteriously re appeared. 😠
What would you recommend for a cam pulley bolt air impact and battery powered? My cheap Harbor Freight Impact couldnt get my neighbor's cam bolt off. And it struggles on slightly torqued lug nuts but will eventually get them.
Well since getting a good battery powered impact, my air impact hasn’t seen the light of day. And unless your working on large equipment I don’t think you can wrong with the Bauer.
If you do not have an accurate means of testing torque then what is the point ?
I have a Milwaukee Fuel 1/2" 18 volt impact. It has been great so far.
Those Milwaukee’s are really nice, especially the newer ones!
I just bought this 20v 450lb it won't pop a lug on any of my cars or SUV. Maybe mines bad I'm returning it
Yea, either you got a bad one, or your lug nuts are WAY TOO tight! I've never had a problem getting vehicle lug nuts off with this. You're not using any adapters, are you? just one adapter can half the torque!
@@radozeman ok i will exchange it and see hopefully it works better
I bought the 3/8 and upgraded to the 1/2 not much of difference. Couldn't remove Lower control arm 22 mm bolt for camry. I'm going to get the xt earthquake 1200 lb of torque, hopping to get at least 400 lbs
HELLO!!! You said you can argue that the Bauer did a lot of the work, and you would be RIGHT. BUT!! did the SAME exact ERROR on the second bolt!!! The Bauer hit it for the longest time, and THEN you used the DEwalt. What you need to do is on a fresh bolt, use the DEWalt. Even then, it is not a quantitative test, but you get an idea.
The bauer seems to be about the same size as my dewalt xr midtorque, and that dewalt looks as big as my xr high torque.
For $100 that bauer is good enough to keep at home for car maintenance.
Exactly prefect for home use
Michael Guevara
That old Dewalt, is bigger than the xr high torque. And it’s weaker than your mid torque.
Why would you try the Bauer first on BOTH bolts? That's ignorant. It did the work on BOTH bolts now.
450 ft-lbs of 'bolt breakaway' torque (or nut-bursting torque) is nothing more than a marketing term.
If you check Earthquake XT 20V 3/8 impact wrench, you will see 'bolt breakaway torque' is 370 ft-lbs while max torque (which is also referred as fastening torque) is 160 ft-lbs.
Also, Bauer corded impact wrench claims to have 1050 ft-lbs of bolt breakaway torque, while max is 300. They are all specified in Harbor Freight page.
So, a lot of people mistakenly compare one tool's 'bolt breakaway torque' with other tool's 'max torque'. That's just not the right comparison, but nowadays, companies are trying to fool people by only specifying bolt breakaway torque, as that makes the tool look more powerful.
DCF889 said to have 400 ft-lbs of 'max' torque, so its breakaway torque will be like 500 to 600, if Dewalt decides to put it that way. (As Milwaukee claims their mid-torque impact wrench has 400 max and 600 breakaway torque).
It technically is a real number, just a bit of BS as to how they come up with that number.
The true test of Empire impact is the RPMs and the Anvil hammers inside
can the torque be reduced on these things,,, looking for something i can use on truck and small projects as well like bikes or scooters..def dont need to torque things down to 450
there are impacts with torque settings but for the most part you just use the impact to get it close then finish it with a torque bar.
Bought the Bauer 20V and it works great for me around the house.
How about using the 5 amp battery instead of the 3 amp. Or even the 8 amp one…
lb-ft pound-feet is torque. ft-lb is energy.
'Tyres' are the big doughnut shaped rubber bits on the smaller round metal bits called 'wheels' - you were taking off the 'wheels' not the 'tyres'. Tip: if you're ever on the roadside and you can't loosen a wheel nut - try putting the jack under the tyre wrench and raising the jack.
hey i just bought the bauer 450 impact. it took out my ls engine harmonic balancer bolt out that was in over 200 ft lb of torque just fine no problem at all.
Well it should! Supposed to be 450 ft lbs!
Have you tried breaking axle nuts with the baur
No, should be good anything under 300ft/lbs.
@@radozeman ok thank you
I purchased this because I already had the impact screwdriver and it really sucks. It not able to break loose wheel lug most of the time because ppl usually go to tire shops and they always over tighten just to be safe.
The smaller impacts aren’t meant for taking lug nuts off. Most of the ones I’ve seen are around 100ft lbs which is what most lug nuts are supposed to be.
You did the same test on the John Deer rear wheel 🤦🏽♂️ started with the Bauer followed up with the DeWalt.
Twice you used the Bauer first and finished with Dewalt. Why didn't you use the Dewalt on an untouched bolt first? Like you said, "The Bauer may have done the work already".
You didn't show us what you said that you would!!!
Having several bauer tools around and well liked but the compact 1/2 inch impact sucks. The 3/8 inch is fantastic though. Always using the 3 or 5 amh batteries
21 minutes for a freakin impact test........
Wish I would have watched this before buying the Bauer, that thing couldn’t even remove my truck lug nuts after I torqued them down to 135ft pounds
Really? That seems a little odd, I was able to to remove the front tractor lug nuts, which are around 200.
thanks
U didn’t mention how much cheaper it is either like u can get 5 of them for the price of the dewalt bro ?!?!?! Lol
That is true, though not that much cheaper than Dewalt
Lug nuts done too tight can shear off or in really cold weather can shear off. Ive had it happen on a front wheel drive CV joint where the centre nut had been hammered to get a split pin fitted. At -10C the thing sheared off - brittle fracture.
I'd like to see this test done with the Dewalt compared to the cordless Earthquake XT gun. With a coupon price of $229, the XT would easily give the Dewalt a run for its money and then some.
Oh I don't doubt that! My only issue with that is you end up with a battery that is only useful on the impact.
@@radozeman
I'm alright with that since the XT comes as a package deal with the battery and optional extended warranty. From what I understand, HF plans to keep the Earthquake pneumatic and electric line in production for years to come since Earthquake is a product of their company Central Pneumatic.
the cheat is to buy battery adapters to run dewalt batteries on the bauers, they respond well to the more powerful dewalt battery packs
That's a good point almost any power tool, with adapters you can buy another brand and use the batteries you already have!
What's the price
The Bauer? About $129 in store. Find a 20% off coupon.
Still had the bauer loosen up the bolt.
That and the bauer is a brushed tool while the dewalt I believe it's brushless which is more efficient and effective.
I don’t think the DeWalt is brushless, fairly certain it is brushed as well.
Those tractor bolts could use some grease; they looked mighty dry.