Smith & Wesson FPC | FOLDING 9mm CARBINE!!!

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  • @jamesmoore1341
    @jamesmoore1341 Рік тому +31

    I like that it folds to the side so you do not have to remove your Optics

    • @alexkurtz5241
      @alexkurtz5241 Рік тому +1

      Nice the velocities have to be In-Sane screaming out of a 16 inch barrel.

    • @jamesmoore1341
      @jamesmoore1341 Рік тому +1

      @Alex Kurtz I wish I had a way to test it but I'm sure she's moving quite well with the 115 grain I was using.

    • @williamonderlinde5068
      @williamonderlinde5068 Рік тому +1

      EXACTLY!! Honest Outlaw pointed that out as well; "diss'ing" on Kel-Tec a bit.

    • @jamesmoore1341
      @jamesmoore1341 Рік тому

      @@williamonderlinde5068 🤣 I noticed that too

    • @williamonderlinde5068
      @williamonderlinde5068 Рік тому +1

      @@jamesmoore1341 Reading/re-reading your post & others reminded me that Jerry Miculek, to the best of my recall, did not have a negative thing to say re: the SW FPC. Now, for the sake of full disclosure & honesty: without re-watching the Honest Outlaw vid/test, only the part about the spare mag release in the stock sticks out in my mind. Minor item, I know. Jerry M. tweaked the Moss 940 S/G into the JM 940 Pro, so I figure he knows guns, especially shotguns. I don't know if his work on the 940 makes him a Mossberg "Company" man or not; really doesn't matter to me.

  • @3wheelmannc860
    @3wheelmannc860 Рік тому +70

    Simply, yes please. That raises the bar for sure. Now we need these in most pistol calibers... .40, .45, 10mm, & 5.7.

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 Рік тому +7

      Yes, more calibers please. Integral suppression would be cool too.

    • @chrissewell1608
      @chrissewell1608 Рік тому +7

      10mm & .44 Magnum

    • @jaceandjace1171
      @jaceandjace1171 Рік тому +3

      5.7 would be interesting but the cartridge size would probably cause a lot of redesign.

    • @phlydude
      @phlydude Рік тому +1

      Especially since they can take M&P mags, they should have at least 40 and 45 as next in line

    • @nicolatesla768
      @nicolatesla768 Рік тому +5

      Don't see the point in this, unless it's chambered in a faster more powerful cartridge (10mm/44mag)

  • @AllanG1914
    @AllanG1914 Рік тому +111

    If anyone just wants to know the price, MSRP is listed as $659 (2/28/23)

    • @BasementOps
      @BasementOps Рік тому +4

      Bless yoy

    • @2014ultra
      @2014ultra Рік тому

      Thank you!👍

    • @MrSolidsnake293
      @MrSolidsnake293 Рік тому

      Buying a M&P handgun is cheaper and more reliable than this PCC there's simply no place for it when the handgun varient of the M&P goes for almost the same price.
      If this PCC and the pistol were compatible other than magazines then the price would be worth it. Otherwise this is just a keltec clone with not much new and I love S&W but this is just and odd push by them

    • @jaysmith5534
      @jaysmith5534 Рік тому +9

      Sportman's Warehouse $599.99 and it comes with 23 round mags not 22 as mentioned in the video.

    • @jima28080
      @jima28080 Рік тому +3

      @@MrSolidsnake293 It comes with a 17 round mag and 2-23 rounders that store on board. Why would being able to use other companies mags be a big deal?

  • @jayteefishing1543
    @jayteefishing1543 Рік тому +95

    I love the spare mag storage. That’s a great idea. You don’t have to use those mags for a quick reload. You could still have another mag on a belt or plate carrier. I love when companies don’t waste space. Those 2 mags being in the stock isn’t any different than not having anything there.

    • @2stroke438
      @2stroke438 Рік тому +2

      Reminds me of those walther g22 bullpups

    • @jayteefishing1543
      @jayteefishing1543 Рік тому +1

      @@2stroke438 yeah but the g22 only had 1 spare mag. But still I guess they were technically first to do it lol

    • @timgoswick512
      @timgoswick512 Рік тому +2

      Just seen this gun on PSA Website for $599

    • @T_D_B_
      @T_D_B_ Рік тому +2

      Too bad they face the wrong way

    • @mjnz
      @mjnz Рік тому +2

      Funny how people have complete opposite views. The one thing I hate about this is the wide stock holding the mags. I think it's unnecessary and gimmicky. The good news is, I give it only months before someone makes a slim version that I like better, and then everyone is happy :)

  • @goodday126
    @goodday126 Рік тому +31

    It almost evokes the MG42 form. S&W isn't afraid to do something different, that's a good thing.

    • @tbrowniscool
      @tbrowniscool Рік тому +1

      That bulge on the side made me think the same!

  • @scotsasnett
    @scotsasnett Рік тому +200

    S&W really loves kel tec

    • @kd-ge2ys
      @kd-ge2ys Рік тому

      )))))

    • @NittyGritty420
      @NittyGritty420 Рік тому +23

      They figure since everyone has stolen gun designs from them in the past they can steal gun designs from them. they also copied the Taurus judge

    • @armstrong2052
      @armstrong2052 Рік тому +13

      Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    • @rossgreenzweig
      @rossgreenzweig Рік тому +3

      Exactly 💯

    • @kevinsuggs1
      @kevinsuggs1 Рік тому +29

      Kel-Tec R&D is the most creative but they don't build their guns out of the best material.

  • @paulis7319
    @paulis7319 Рік тому +21

    I wish these firearms manufacturers would send their prototypes to you and other “guntubers” for review during their development stage. That would greatly improve the ergonomics, functionality, and other minor issues before the final product is released for retail. You all do a great job describing each issue and offer great solutions.

  • @shiTheadith
    @shiTheadith Рік тому +31

    S&W: hey can I copy your homework?
    Kel-Tec: sure just change a few answers so it's not so obvious.

    • @rdtownsend9mm
      @rdtownsend9mm Рік тому +1

      Kel Tec sucks….. do you enjoy not having a sight or do you enjoy taking off your sight every time you want to fold it

  • @jsr-uz3oj
    @jsr-uz3oj Рік тому +19

    Instead of running to buy one, I'll wait until they get the bugs out. I like the potential and looking to see what improvements they will make. For all the ones that run to by one, I thank you for providing the feedback to S@W, so they can make changes. Not on my list this year, but maybe next year. It looks good.

    • @wilycoyote9091
      @wilycoyote9091 Рік тому +8

      I'd be interested in what the total cost (Gun + Upgrades) is that many folks put into their Sub2000 with MCarbo type upgrades to get themselves what they believe to be a decent workable carbine versus how much value the S&W FPC offers straight out of the box. It wouldn't surprise me to find that adding multiple upgrades to the Sub2000 ends up costing considerably more than the FPC. From a quality and durability standpoint there is little doubt that the S&W is made better. I love the Sub2000 concept, but I think they went too far with using plastic for too many things that should have remained made of metal. For starters who else would use a plastic feed ramp?

    • @mattwalters6834
      @mattwalters6834 Рік тому +1

      Same

  • @aleffel9668
    @aleffel9668 Рік тому +22

    Love that they kept it at around the $600 mark like the ruger pc carbine. The moment I saw this that’s what came to mind, if it’s more expensive than the pc carbine and kel tec it would be hard for me to justify this. They did it right it appears.

    • @panzerabwerkanone
      @panzerabwerkanone Рік тому +6

      Much better than the Henry Homesteader at almost $1000 MSRP!

  • @theblindsniper9130
    @theblindsniper9130 Рік тому +26

    Oh hey, TFB TV just released a video on this. Glad I get to see your take too!
    I feel like folding PCCs are definitely going to be more dominant in the future.

    • @ryanthomas5962
      @ryanthomas5962 Рік тому +6

      So did MrGunsNGeae and Scootch. All within the same hour. Very odd lol

    • @shovellord1117
      @shovellord1117 Рік тому +10

      ​@@ryanthomas5962 probably because a review embargo lifted

    • @alanaldpal950
      @alanaldpal950 Рік тому +4

      @@ryanthomas5962 not odd… they were all given guns in advance to review and are all required to not release videos until the same day (today).

  • @AllAboutSurvival
    @AllAboutSurvival Рік тому +8

    Great to see your review on fpc. This is a huge plus considering the usage of same magazine and also the ability to fold the carbine as well

  • @tenchraven
    @tenchraven Рік тому +32

    The latch coming undone and the over insertion concern me, but I"m liking the concept. The big deal breaker for me is I don't use the M&P. The modular magwell on the sub2000 is still big deal for me, because you can print a grip to match whatever you carry.

    • @Rustebadge
      @Rustebadge Рік тому +9

      Then you should get an M&P. You don't know what you're missing.

    • @ryanthelion408
      @ryanthelion408 Рік тому +1

      @@Rustebadgenah I’ll stick with the Kel tec but thanks

    • @chaburchak
      @chaburchak Рік тому +2

      Glock mags are everywhere and a fraction of the cost of Smith mags. I think I'll stick with my Sub 2000.

    • @---tx9xx
      @---tx9xx Рік тому

      where do you see the lath coming undone at what timestamp

  • @FloridaManFrank
    @FloridaManFrank Рік тому +18

    This is really cool and I hope s&w makes 3 more
    10mm
    45acp
    5.7mm

    • @Thatch32
      @Thatch32 Рік тому

      They will

    • @mot0rhe4d40
      @mot0rhe4d40 Рік тому +3

      I am always surprised how few 10mm carbines are on the market. Just thought it would be a great combination for someone wanting more versatility in a PCC.

    • @bubbanc01
      @bubbanc01 Рік тому

      I hope so too. Why not .357 sig to boot?

    • @mot0rhe4d40
      @mot0rhe4d40 Рік тому

      @@bubbanc01 357 Sig just never took off like 40 S&W. Hooked a local shop up with some boxes of 357 Sig. Said it was the first boxes he had seen in a year or so.

    • @ferrumchnop6617
      @ferrumchnop6617 Рік тому

      10mm would be great.

  • @Rebel1280
    @Rebel1280 Рік тому +7

    I've seen everyones review on this gun (and there are A LOT) and i can confidently say i'd buy one as long as i can change out the trigger and stock mag release. Its dang near a perfect gun for my purposes.

  • @jacobseraphin685
    @jacobseraphin685 Рік тому +8

    I love the idea and I bet it probably is better than the sub 2000 but kel tec has my heart since it started this whole folding thing

    • @Rustebadge
      @Rustebadge Рік тому

      Kel-Tec did NOT invent the "whole folding thing". Folders have been around since the 1800's.

    • @jacobseraphin685
      @jacobseraphin685 Рік тому +1

      @@Rustebadge all of those folding rifles are still able to shoot when they are folded, the kel tec can’t shoot until you unfold it

    • @30rdmaga
      @30rdmaga Рік тому +1

      @@jacobseraphin685 right lol dude seemed like a gun Karen.

  • @jacksonnra1856
    @jacksonnra1856 Рік тому +19

    I'm amazed the "tube" hasn't banned the term "backpack" gun yet.

  • @scottgomez6244
    @scottgomez6244 Рік тому +15

    The top curve gives me an mg-42 vibe

  • @erroneous6947
    @erroneous6947 Рік тому +12

    The stock mounted mag storage is more for carrying than deploying it imo.

    • @mattwalters6834
      @mattwalters6834 Рік тому

      Same, I found that the old school reload in which you bring the stock to your hip and reload with your firing hand works better; like how you’d reload an M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M14. It doesn’t seem like something you’d pocket in your shoulder and reload like an AR. I also like what others have said about a friction fit instead of a mag release.

    • @ixnorp4270
      @ixnorp4270 Рік тому +1

      I would agree, and those who state that the mag storage should have been friction fit have no idea that a rifle recoils backwards.

  • @RedIron914
    @RedIron914 Рік тому +7

    I dig the idea of having spare mags in the stock.

  • @mikemcmullen8844
    @mikemcmullen8844 Рік тому +1

    I bought one about a month ago and I really like it. I have about 600 rounds through it and it runs great. I even tried some 65gn. poly ammo and it cycled just fine. I have had a Ruger pcc for about three years and I'm going to sell it. The Ruger is great but I like the S&W fpc better. Great video Thanks.

  • @sandojones5903
    @sandojones5903 Рік тому +3

    I love my Sub2k, but I like that more manufacturers especially the larger ones are starting to do more oddball/out of the box concepts. I like the proliferation of "gadget/gimmick guns" and new lease on life cartridges like 5.7 and 10mm.

    • @justauser
      @justauser 11 місяців тому

      TBH the folding 9MM PCC is anything but a gimmick. It has become my go to, my most used and most useful gun. Especially up here in Canada where we have few options, and most options suck or cost 5 grand this gun is a breath of fresh air compared to the competition

  • @DeimosPC
    @DeimosPC Рік тому +5

    Keltec have been posting memes about this for a week lol

  • @JohnQuickWick
    @JohnQuickWick Рік тому +2

    This weapon is on every UA-cam gun channel today. I now know how my parents felt when the President was on every channel in the 60's. 😄

  • @georgeboros263
    @georgeboros263 Рік тому +2

    1:05 . Shrapnel takes out fallen soda pop bottle!
    BTW, MSRP is $659

  • @jjacostaloans
    @jjacostaloans Місяць тому

    I love that every issue you brought up there was a plus side to it. They way it should be 😂👍🏽

  • @tubeonline629
    @tubeonline629 Рік тому +8

    According to Smith-wesson website the price is $659

  • @vendetta6451
    @vendetta6451 Рік тому +2

    Wow S&W is really uping their game.

  • @timgoswick512
    @timgoswick512 Рік тому +7

    Don't worry Mcarbo is already working on any upgrades, just like with the sub-2000 and the Ruger carbine. Nothing is perfect for everyone.

  • @laptopdragon
    @laptopdragon Рік тому +3

    Thank you S&W... been waiting for one forever.

  • @MrTMC94
    @MrTMC94 Рік тому +1

    "...the human body is what it is" -- one of my favourite Eric-isms of all time

  • @nightedpemder4992
    @nightedpemder4992 Рік тому

    I just bought one with a red dot. I love mine! What I like most about is 25 cents per round compared to 22 at ,07 and any other at 1 dollar per round. And can get heavier bullets close to 357 with same gun. Perfect for targets versatile for hunting.

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt Рік тому +3

    This is interesting that S&W did. Glad you reviewed it

  • @rossgreenzweig
    @rossgreenzweig Рік тому +9

    More gun videos and reviews please!

  • @rickh9396
    @rickh9396 Рік тому +7

    It's nice to see the industry eventually catching up to Kel-Tec. P3AT -> Ruger LCP; P11 -> Sig P365; Sub-2000 -> S&W FPC; KSG -> M&P 12, IWI Tavor TS12 and others. Kel-Tec's execution might not be as refined as others, but they definitely push the envelope of innovation.

  • @AviationJeremy
    @AviationJeremy Рік тому +2

    S&W has gone full Kel Tec.
    Good to see more innovation and creativity in the arms industry.

  • @Joeak74
    @Joeak74 Рік тому +3

    I wish they would have at least included some basic folding sights. That would actually have made sense. Not everybody wants to run an optic. Folding sights would have kept it smaller in profile, plus for around $650 to $700 it makes sense.

  • @kevinclause4p55p5
    @kevinclause4p55p5 Рік тому +8

    I still prefer the sub 2000 in almost every way. Glock mags. Less weight. Less width. The irons are fine. The trigger is good enough. I like the groups I get at 100.
    One point goes to S&W for the mag storage in the butt stock. It has an opportunity for a second and third point if it can handle aluminum and steel ammo.

    • @kevinclause4p55p5
      @kevinclause4p55p5 Рік тому +1

      The S&W could get a fourth point if it is easier to find at your local FFL.

    • @miragexl007
      @miragexl007 Рік тому +1

      And Opt. On top left in place...huge.

    • @ixnorp4270
      @ixnorp4270 Рік тому +1

      I put 100 rounds of 7-8 year old Blazer through our FPC, and it ran just fine. Can't say anything about steel though, as I never use the stuff. During my one and only range session so far, I also put 50 rounds each of two different 115gr loads and 50 rounds each of two different 124gr loads through the rifle and did not encounter a single issue. So 300 rounds with no problems. Very encouraging first outing......

    • @lcm7541
      @lcm7541 10 місяців тому +1

      As a stowaway gun the sub2000 works very well. It’s less than half the width, ~$300 (after rebate right now), and very light. I’ll never pick it over a cheap AR but when you want something more than a pistol but can’t have a rifle I’ll take it!

    • @Ilicet
      @Ilicet 15 днів тому +1

      For people who have M&Ps this makes more sense since they should have plenty of mags for both. I see a use for it when camping, much easier to get small game with a longer barrel.

  • @toddparsons2980
    @toddparsons2980 Рік тому +3

    Cool PCC. The folding lever/mechanism unlocking during firing, the ability to over insert mags, and the charging handle reciprocating are things to keep an eye on but it having just a Black Oxide finished barrel kills it for me. Will look forward to the 2.0.

    • @ixnorp4270
      @ixnorp4270 Рік тому

      The charging handle in a correctly functioning FPC does not reciprocate. There is a small latch that extends from the lower back end of the polymer body underneath the receiver tube and catches the front of the charging handle, thereby keeping the handle in place. So either his rifle's catch is inop or missing (he might have a pre-production example that just doesn't have it), or he isn't using the rifle correctly.

  • @chrisblake1918
    @chrisblake1918 Рік тому +2

    KelTec. I already have a Sub2K in .40, all MCARBO guts, and a SU-16C in 5.56. Love them both. THIS looks very desirable!

    • @playazway
      @playazway Рік тому +2

      Got the Gen 2 Sub2k in 9mm Glock mags with full internal MCARBO guts and accessories. Definitely a solid gun with their complete kit. All it took was a FTE, pre MCARBO, that lodged the casing right into the polymer feed ramp for me to do the complete kit. Never could understand why they do plastic feed ramps, the slice that casing made would have made you cringe like it did me.

    • @chrisblake1918
      @chrisblake1918 Рік тому

      @@playazway Indeed!!!!

  • @garyglenn5233
    @garyglenn5233 Рік тому +5

    From what I can find, the MSRP is going to be around $700.00. I'm kinda pissed off with S&W for ending the Thompson Center line. The Contender series is excellent and their black powder rifles are great. Hopefully someone will revive the brand and keep making them in America.

    • @americanpride75
      @americanpride75 Рік тому +1

      600 at sportsman's warehouse

    • @rwebb4988
      @rwebb4988 5 місяців тому

      I have TC field pistols and shot competition with them. My wife purchased a BP rifle for me one Christmas. I was disappointed when S&W discontinued the line.

  • @denmar355
    @denmar355 Рік тому +1

    I got the Ruger PCC for $525, and love it. I suspect this one will be great fun and reliable as well. Hope to get one.

  • @tortol4847
    @tortol4847 Рік тому +3

    Make one in .45 ACP and you'll have my attention

  • @mr.j1381
    @mr.j1381 Рік тому +2

    is folding the same as what they called a "take down" gun, looks like a cool camping accessory backpack ready, still waiting on that laptop gun from Robocop 2 I like these transformers.

  • @tylerw8216
    @tylerw8216 Рік тому +1

    Nice review. I have noticed a trend in the gun community on UA-cam though. In reviews of products, it's really nice all you guys can run cans but many of us cant. Sure would be nice to hear what it sounds like in the reviews. Thanks!

  • @marybaxter2559
    @marybaxter2559 Рік тому +13

    ...and Glock misses out on yet another opportunity (so far...)

    • @MrSolidsnake293
      @MrSolidsnake293 Рік тому +1

      To expect anything out of Glock makes you that guy....

  • @virtus12ful
    @virtus12ful Рік тому +5

    I’m getting MG34 and FG42 vibes from it

  • @thezl7show955
    @thezl7show955 Рік тому +1

    So quite with the subsonic 147gr impressive

  • @4226oak
    @4226oak Рік тому +1

    I like the ability to have a red dot on it and not hafto take it off and on with the sub2k

  • @theaveragearmedcitizen9821
    @theaveragearmedcitizen9821 Рік тому +1

    The sub 2k is way better than a fair price! in my opinion this is also better than a fair price at $650. I own both. May favorite feature between both is the bolt locks back on an empty mag on the m&p. it does not on the sub 2k.

  • @letsdothis9063
    @letsdothis9063 Рік тому +1

    Wow. I'm early! Looks awesome. I'm glad that they decided to fold it sideways.

  • @jimholden3162
    @jimholden3162 Рік тому +4

    MSRP $659.00 according to the S&W website...

  • @patrickweaver1105
    @patrickweaver1105 Рік тому +1

    They need a full size grip option. If you have a M&P 9mm compact you're set. Both the 15 round pistol magazines and all the magazines that come with FPC will fit either. It you have a full size M&P you're going to be stuck fiddling around with taking the plastic magazine spacer on and off to switch them between the carbine and your pistol.

  • @bubbanc01
    @bubbanc01 Рік тому +3

    That looks cool. I would like one.

  • @richardsmith4187
    @richardsmith4187 8 місяців тому

    I decided to look for another carbine after selling my Kel-Tec. Looked online and saw the S&W FPC and it looks great. I like all the features and price is pretty good. Great review and you covered everything as usual.

  • @somewellingguy1937
    @somewellingguy1937 Рік тому +5

    What's next from S&W? Maybe a .22 that holds 33rds? Crazy stuff

    • @jaceandjace1171
      @jaceandjace1171 Рік тому

      Go .30Super carry and get closer to 30 rounds and still have a lot of stopping power.

  • @bigfuzzy84
    @bigfuzzy84 Рік тому +11

    Friction retention would've been fine for the extra mags in the stock.

    • @tonysmith5465
      @tonysmith5465 Рік тому +4

      Nope. The recoil would knock them out

  • @DaveInOroValley
    @DaveInOroValley Рік тому

    Just picked my up today and can tell S&W listened to early reviews. Mine charges easily with one hand and also closes with a discernible "click" so no worries there. Now it's time to go shoot it. Great review thank you!

  • @Second_Opinion_2
    @Second_Opinion_2 Рік тому +1

    When he described the difference between the SW and the sub 2000 it made me think of _Coming to America_

  • @da20eclipse
    @da20eclipse Рік тому

    Wow, thanks so much. Up until your video NO ONE addressed the RECOIL of the S&W FPC. I've already watched a dozen videos and you are the first to give a COMPLETE review. I'm not a fan of the SUB 2000, due to the felt recoil. It's good for what it does, but it is a shoulder killer.

  • @kcm189
    @kcm189 Рік тому +2

    Great video! I could've sworn I saw the handle reciprocate though 👀 little close to the face aha

  • @shawnyboy212
    @shawnyboy212 Рік тому +1

    It looks like a little mini mg42! I like it!

  • @danielhess1082
    @danielhess1082 Рік тому +3

    Is Smith & Wesson just keltec 2.0 now?
    I will say this much, it does seem to be a considerable improvement over the Sub2000, more mass for reduced recoil, what looks to be the M&P 2.0 grip that is customizable with different backstraps, a charging handle that is reminiscent of an AR charging handle, in addition to a last shot lock open mechanism and a sight mount that does have to be removed or swiveled out of the way to make it fold. All it's missing is the ability to change the type of magazine you can use with it like the Sub2000 Multi Mag varient or the Ruger PC carbine do.

  • @Daywalker_Lee
    @Daywalker_Lee Рік тому +2

    Looks alot like my Sub 2000 just a side folder... I do like the build quality on this one much better.

  • @chriss8206
    @chriss8206 Рік тому +1

    9 mm carbines have become pretty popular I wish somebody would make some Hi BC bullets specifically for mag fed's 9 mm carbines.

  • @agoogleaccount2861
    @agoogleaccount2861 Рік тому

    Webley revolvers have used latches like that barrel hinge for more than a century. And they still seldomly have issues besides since it's only firing 9mm strength shouldn't be an issue I like it. It's practical and compact

  • @class3nfadealer666
    @class3nfadealer666 11 місяців тому

    Waiting For mine at This Moment!! Can't Wait To Suppress It! Love the design and mag storage!

  • @martinswiney2192
    @martinswiney2192 Рік тому +2

    It firing when not fully latched closed is a real safety concern. S&W should be made aware of this happening. Maybe do some testing to see if it will fire when not properly latched and what happens if a case ruptures. It should have a safety to prevent firing when not latched properly.

  • @johnl.8616
    @johnl.8616 10 місяців тому

    The extra mags and the ability to keep a red dot on it makes it that much better than the Sub 2000.

  • @tommyt8998
    @tommyt8998 Рік тому +2

    The deal breaker for me is no iron sights. Call me old fashioned, but I believe all guns except shotguns should come with iron sights.

  • @mbiker345
    @mbiker345 Рік тому

    That shotgun came out and you never heard a word about it again. This is gonna be the Same deal.

  • @woodlandreconjoshdrakes5509
    @woodlandreconjoshdrakes5509 Рік тому +2

    I got the notice for your video, but damn 6 or 7 other channels posted this exact pcc at the same time lol. Great video as always

  • @RobertSmith-lw2bx
    @RobertSmith-lw2bx Рік тому

    “Gotta a couple of guys in the rear back there”
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jerrycat8507
    @jerrycat8507 Рік тому +1

    I wish Kel-Tec would do a sub 2000 in .45acp. Set up for 1911, mags. I have mine set up for Beretta 92fs mags. I love the gun. I am seriously considering this S&W too. Two is one and one is none.

    • @J.sh_CDN
      @J.sh_CDN Рік тому

      Actually the Hipoint carbine can be modified to take 1911 mags, for a cheap cheap pcc in 45. No folding but still pretty compact

  • @MrSymbolic7
    @MrSymbolic7 Рік тому +1

    Eric , The charging handle is definitely reciprocating at 13:21 on the video ,it's not going far maybe 3 inches back, but it is moving backward , I shot one yesterday and that was the first thing that I noticed about the rifle , it was very accurate that's for sure !

    • @ExtremeSquared
      @ExtremeSquared Рік тому

      Yeah, that's sort of weird behavior. It's clearly not fully-reciprocating with the bolt. It might just be non-reciprocating non-latching, which would make it move with friction. Very clear at 19:50

    • @pcpolice7937
      @pcpolice7937 Рік тому

      @@ExtremeSquared On Sootch00 video of this gun, the charging handle does not move when he if firing it.. I think Eric got a lemon..with the handle moving and the latch problem.

  • @mushroomcloud1
    @mushroomcloud1 Рік тому

    Kel tec has great customer service.

  • @SuperHank777
    @SuperHank777 Рік тому +5

    Quarter of the way through the video. I’m in love! Hopefully it takes regular M&P 9 mags and isn’t too expensive !

  • @Toolness1
    @Toolness1 Рік тому +2

    Not sure how much this will cost but I am loving my Extar EP9, they are great for the money and mine has been totally reliable if anyone is looking for a 9mm carbine on a budget.

    • @Gl0ckb1te
      @Gl0ckb1te Рік тому

      The size is a bit of an issue, not really able to fit in a backpack is its major drawback. If they made it able to accept a lawman tactical folder then it would be ideal.

  • @Someone7761
    @Someone7761 Рік тому +3

    Now S&W needs to make 30 rnd mags.

  • @ajshardcore
    @ajshardcore Рік тому

    Just picked mine up and I'm obsessed

  • @ThatAdamikGuy
    @ThatAdamikGuy Рік тому +4

    I’d love to see this in 45acp

  • @mikeb2459
    @mikeb2459 Рік тому

    The only way to “over-insert the magazine” is to use a > 15 round mag without the spacer, then hold the mag release button down while you’re seating the magazine. Not an issue at all.

  • @chrishensley2481
    @chrishensley2481 Рік тому +1

    We're not here to bash the sub2k, but let's bash it anyway! Lol I can't wait to get one!

  • @1977Yakko
    @1977Yakko Рік тому +5

    I'm guessing a review embargo lifted today because EVERY "Guntuber" released their review of this firearm within an hour of each other it seems. LOL! That's not a bad thing. It seems to be generally well received by all the reviewers thus far. Not perfect or anything but a very good option for PCC.

  • @thorsmith59
    @thorsmith59 Рік тому +1

    Just picked one up and the first thing I noticed is they used the compact pistol grip instead of the full size. Stupid move! If you use the full size mags that don't have the little spacer, you have a gap that can pinch the hell out of your little finger! Second they should have extended the pic rail on the grip portion so you can mount a rear sight. Third, why not just include a flash suppressor?

  • @amkrause2004
    @amkrause2004 Рік тому +1

    I would think the mag holder is mainly for storage. Otherwise, just place those mags in mag pouch.

  • @n0xxm3rcyxx
    @n0xxm3rcyxx Рік тому +2

    i love the keltec sub 2000... but i havnt bought it because it folds over the top... with optics its annoying.

  • @scruffysstash
    @scruffysstash Рік тому +1

    My big negative is no iron sights supplied with the rifle. Otherwise this would be a good combo with an m&p.

  • @SPRINGTRAP209
    @SPRINGTRAP209 9 місяців тому +1

    If they ever make one in 10mm I’ll be in line 😊

  • @gigicline2660
    @gigicline2660 Рік тому

    Great first look!! Thank you. I was looking at the Sub2000, I don't like the polymer trigger system, but I do like the Glock mags which is what I'm oriented for. Both look like viable options for a concealed carry.

  • @1patrioticscots
    @1patrioticscots Рік тому +3

    Didn't Kel-Tec make 1,2, or 3 of these starting in 2001? Glock mag compatible? I know I love mine. Cheaper and lighter.

  • @hvymax
    @hvymax Рік тому +2

    A cumbersome extra mag or 2 is better than no extra mag or 2.

  • @TheWolfsnack
    @TheWolfsnack Рік тому +2

    Wow...the S&W Sub 2000

  • @wipperwil
    @wipperwil Рік тому

    Looking at slow-Mo 13:25, it appears the bold slide is reciprocating.

  • @bluebeastsrt
    @bluebeastsrt Рік тому +1

    At this point I feel like Hi Point oughta throw a folder on their 10mm carbine and show S&W and kel tec what’s up.😉😂🥴

  • @Arnor2207
    @Arnor2207 Рік тому +2

    gives a MG34 vibe =)

  • @edwardx.winston5744
    @edwardx.winston5744 Рік тому +1

    Time for this channel to step up and review the Extar EP-9. Smooth recoil for a blowback and hysterically fun to shoot. And super cheap.

    • @NoNo_IStay
      @NoNo_IStay Рік тому

      Step up and review an EP9.
      Now that's something I'll never read again. If you want budget 9mm pcc get a Foxtrot Mike.

    • @NoNo_IStay
      @NoNo_IStay Рік тому

      For anyone reading this thinking "maybe I'll get an ep9"
      It's plastic.

    • @Gl0ckb1te
      @Gl0ckb1te Рік тому

      The issues with the EP is it cant accept a folder stock and some trigger packs wont work like the wide open trigger, etc. Other than those issues, it is smooth.

  • @billn911
    @billn911 Рік тому +1

    I hope keltec does a gen 3 that folds in an optic friendly way. Glock mags will keep me with the sub2000

  • @1LElife
    @1LElife Рік тому +1

    it's refreshing to see innovation coming from more manufacturers, but I think this will live in the shadow of the sub2K simply because the Kel-Tec is available in Glock magazine configuration.

  • @nunyabizniz50
    @nunyabizniz50 Рік тому +2

    I'm not sure why companies keep making shoulder fired 9 mm or why customers keep buying them. 9 mm is too big for rabbit or squirrel and it's too small for deer And probably hog. About the only thing you can shoot with the 9 mm is targets and people. We all have 9 mm for self defense. But what percentage of the 9 mm actually get used for their intended purpose. I bet it's less than 1%. Something like this rifle would be cool and like a 45 ACP Or 10 mm.