How STR & INT Builds in RPG's are OP - Video Game Memes

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  • @Masamune-XIII
    @Masamune-XIII 8 місяців тому +310

    I love how whenever I hear the name "Bowser", the first thing now to come to mind is Chibi. 🤣

  • @topcat59
    @topcat59 8 місяців тому +148

    Ranni is the only nerd in from software’s history that’s actually is making some gains.😺

  • @Hurtle885hu8bu
    @Hurtle885hu8bu 8 місяців тому +18

    0:47 I don’t believe I’ve ever come across the phrase “thundercunting” before, but I love it.

  • @ahmedshaikha8938
    @ahmedshaikha8938 8 місяців тому +94

    You know you’ve been studying too much when you read STR and INT as string and integer

    • @FoxDog1080
      @FoxDog1080 8 місяців тому +4

      Int 1

    • @gerritvalkering1068
      @gerritvalkering1068 8 місяців тому +7

      time to take a break

    • @skycastrum5803
      @skycastrum5803 8 місяців тому +3

      ... thanks. That’s going to be a returning brain worm now every Saturday. I hope you’re happy.

    • @johndexterzarate6663
      @johndexterzarate6663 8 місяців тому +1

      !False

    • @siliconhawk
      @siliconhawk 8 місяців тому +1

      fuk now i will always remember rpg when coding and coding when Playing rpg

  • @TAGfrost
    @TAGfrost 8 місяців тому +17

    11:30
    The Dev for Palworld was right, there are 2 types of players, making a beautiful/handsome character and then there is these abominations.

  • @Mr-Green0
    @Mr-Green0 8 місяців тому +44

    11:04
    After all that fun, Bowser keeps stealing Peach.

  • @pandie_cube
    @pandie_cube 8 місяців тому +77

    Mario and Luigi speaking Italian gibberish will never not be charming. I miss that series so much 😭

    • @Smashburrogames
      @Smashburrogames 8 місяців тому +2

      We need a new Mario and Luigi game, underrated rpg series (even a remake)

    • @kristophesiem5336
      @kristophesiem5336 8 місяців тому

      Didnt their makers go bankrupt?

    • @aureliodeprimus8018
      @aureliodeprimus8018 8 місяців тому +1

      @@kristophesiem5336 Yes, sadly.....All that is left of Mario RPGs is the cardboard cut-outs.....

  • @draketheduelist
    @draketheduelist 8 місяців тому +33

    7:56 Actually, unrelated to Palworld, Digimon games have been pretty good recently. It's just that Digimon is less "build a team of friends and then be friends forever in friendly friend world of friendship" and more "Myotismon is gonna' kill us all; let's kick his bloodsucking ass with our rocket-launching dinosaur!"

    • @re0798
      @re0798 8 місяців тому +4

      That or "each and everything in the digital world is out to eat us, we gotta stick together"
      Also digimon don't rehash the same game 10 times with mediocre story.

    • @Khroniclas
      @Khroniclas 8 місяців тому

      This

  • @alvaroperez2349
    @alvaroperez2349 8 місяців тому +118

    0:02 I’m sure every man within a 20 mile radius felt that…

    • @Felix-gv1ij
      @Felix-gv1ij 8 місяців тому +14

      And some of then liked...

    • @ashkirby8896
      @ashkirby8896 8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, I feel that!😫😩😖😣😬

    • @swampcooler8332
      @swampcooler8332 8 місяців тому +3

      ☺️

    • @brandonball5063
      @brandonball5063 8 місяців тому +2

      Man, I'm taking a dump and I felt that!!!

    • @Tahu33446
      @Tahu33446 8 місяців тому

      Same way we felt it when it happened in akame ga kill

  • @deadpool-mwtm6414
    @deadpool-mwtm6414 8 місяців тому +112

    Chibie never beating the aligations.

    • @deadpool-mwtm6414
      @deadpool-mwtm6414 8 місяців тому +14

      Apparently autocorrect wanted a E in Chibi's name 🫠

  • @Heatstruct
    @Heatstruct 8 місяців тому +7

    DangoDad playing King hits home for me, my dad played Armor King when I was a kid and he introduced me to fighting games. I played King and I had the absolute pleasure of showing my son tekken with him playing King II! I hope the tradition will continue.

  • @christophermartinez8836
    @christophermartinez8836 8 місяців тому +23

    11:20 "Maybe will get another new Mario Game"
    Mario Vs Donkey Kong: Am I a joke to you?

  • @duskbringer4583
    @duskbringer4583 8 місяців тому +34

    1:55 ...I admit it gets hard to tell all Snakes apart.

    • @supersasukemaniac
      @supersasukemaniac 8 місяців тому +2

      what makes it even better, he isn't even Snake. he's a body double.

    • @duskbringer4583
      @duskbringer4583 8 місяців тому +4

      I mean he IS a Snake, just not Solid. That's Venom Snake, Big Bosses Double. @@supersasukemaniac
      Fun fact, Big Boss' codename was Naked Snake.

    • @kopiseduh9767
      @kopiseduh9767 8 місяців тому

      @@duskbringer4583 IIRC that's from Ground Zeroes, so, that one is Big Boss

    • @duskbringer4583
      @duskbringer4583 8 місяців тому

      @@kopiseduh9767 Big Boss in V and Ground Zero were Venom Snake.

    • @kopiseduh9767
      @kopiseduh9767 8 місяців тому

      @@duskbringer4583 It's been a while so I might be wrong, but wasn't Venom Snake the medic guy in Ground Zeroes, the one in the helicopter?

  • @minermole101
    @minermole101 8 місяців тому +22

    Props to the dad who doesn't claim to be a gamer

  • @bradwalls8656
    @bradwalls8656 8 місяців тому +5

    @ 1:18 - this literally what happened in the anime "GATE: Thus The JSDF Fought There!"

  • @parkerwolf7445
    @parkerwolf7445 8 місяців тому +10

    0:24 this got a good chuckle out of me

  • @TheAngryChickenMan
    @TheAngryChickenMan 8 місяців тому +57

    Poor bowser lol

    • @LeeroyPorkins
      @LeeroyPorkins 8 місяців тому +5

      Don't tell Chibidoki

    • @TheAngryChickenMan
      @TheAngryChickenMan 8 місяців тому

      @@LeeroyPorkinsChibi: HEY!!! *pounds on your door* only I can stick things up bowser's bu-

    • @vince-ll8su
      @vince-ll8su 8 місяців тому +4

      Rip for his crown jewels

    • @suliscrew
      @suliscrew 8 місяців тому +3

      Must be a younger Chibidoki

    • @TheAngryChickenMan
      @TheAngryChickenMan 8 місяців тому +3

      @@LeeroyPorkins Chibi: *aggressively pounding the door of the person who made that clip*

  • @LeeroyPorkins
    @LeeroyPorkins 8 місяців тому +28

    Let me guess! Someone replaced your Sweetrolls with Jelly Doughnuts?

    • @DeezNuts-ju1rj
      @DeezNuts-ju1rj 8 місяців тому +9

      STOP! YOU'VE VIOLATED THE LAW!

  • @Some-guy-on-the-internet
    @Some-guy-on-the-internet 8 місяців тому +3

    4:54
    I could immediately tell this wasn't actually SMB because the third Goomba walked through the second one during its death animation instead of coming into contact with it and walking in the opposite direction.

  • @Mr-Green0
    @Mr-Green0 8 місяців тому +24

    6:57
    I don't blame him.
    I would've done the same thing if I got the game or the Saints Row Reboot.

    • @jonasquinn7977
      @jonasquinn7977 8 місяців тому

      The reboot wasn’t that bad IMO it just wasn’t really Saints Row, I really wish we’d just gotten SR5 though. They easily could’ve just retconned 4 using time travel and made it a joke.
      Imagine how funny it would’ve been to have a recurring joke throughout the game of the boss referencing things that haven’t happened yet and everyone else being confused as hell

    • @Mr-Green0
      @Mr-Green0 8 місяців тому +1

      @@jonasquinn7977
      Or could've pull a Modern Warfare reboot style by rebooting the Saints characters in a new way.

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 8 місяців тому

      @@jonasquinn7977 That reboot really reassured most people that there won't be Volition anymore. That was how that reboot was totally bullcrap

  • @Zulk_RS
    @Zulk_RS 8 місяців тому +6

    Nobel: "The point is to not look like how you're supposed to IRL"
    Also Nobel: Vtube Avatar is literally just himself but without the beard and with fox ears.

  • @IgnatiusBlaze4
    @IgnatiusBlaze4 8 місяців тому +4

    1:23 WAIT SPONGEBOB WE'RE NOT CAVEMEN, we have technology.

  • @molybdaen11
    @molybdaen11 8 місяців тому +7

    Dad: „Are you winning, son?”
    Son: „No, he is just to strong.”
    Dad: „Let me teach you a lesson about video games!”
    *button smashing his way to win*

    • @cloverseer9836
      @cloverseer9836 8 місяців тому +2

      Ngl dangoheart’s dad is a absolute unit.

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 8 місяців тому +14

    Rust with Digimon could be really interesting because that is essentially what the first Digimon world game played like.
    The only difference is that you don’t need to feed/house your character.
    🎩
    🐍 no step on snek🇺🇸🇭🇰

    • @kristophesiem5336
      @kristophesiem5336 8 місяців тому

      We didnt play the same freaking game then. How tf are you comparing DW1 with Rust

  • @xenobazilla
    @xenobazilla 8 місяців тому +2

    5:28 Morgana would probably agree with Ken because he will claim he is not a cat

  • @gameyfirebro9645
    @gameyfirebro9645 8 місяців тому +5

    5:09 i am in the same discord as the person who made that, and I can confirm that he's got plenty more where that came from.

    • @rupert_1491
      @rupert_1491 8 місяців тому

      Does he have a youtube channel?

    • @gameyfirebro9645
      @gameyfirebro9645 8 місяців тому

      @rupert_1491 well I'll ask if I can.

  • @addison_v_ertisement1678
    @addison_v_ertisement1678 8 місяців тому +2

    7:34 Oh, is he gunna put that behind a paywall as well?

  • @ManuFortis
    @ManuFortis 8 місяців тому +2

    DM's face when your character is strong:
    DM's face when your character is smart:
    DM's face when both:

  • @larsthememelord3383
    @larsthememelord3383 8 місяців тому +3

    7:46 reminder the guy was completely in the wrong because he made people pay for his pokemon into palworld mod so taking revenge is kind of fucking petty

  • @CamKoudo
    @CamKoudo 8 місяців тому +2

    2:36 and that is why you should always button mash, no need to learn combos when they will just happen on their own by accident 😂

  • @christopherdark4671
    @christopherdark4671 8 місяців тому +1

    7:15 yeah. Thats literally every single person I've ever talked to about the game. "It was so fun! One blast after the next! Until the end... f**k whoever was responsible for that... with a cactus... dry..."

  • @dariusdrake7515
    @dariusdrake7515 8 місяців тому +2

    The latest digimon game incorporates a horror Visual Novel as the main plot, with RPG elements supporting the story. They are NOT sitting back and picking things up when it becomes popular. And, honestly, even if they did make Palworld (which I haven't made), they wouldn't have advertised it in the same manner that Palworld did, instead relying on the IP's popularity for initial sales, so it wouldn't have gotten Palworld's instant popularity.

  • @sunderzilla
    @sunderzilla 8 місяців тому +2

    god bless noble and chino for always providing the sauce

  • @DuchDude
    @DuchDude 8 місяців тому +1

    0:47 The father that wants his son in basketball (to mother): "wait, let him cook..."

  • @TheCompanyRepresentative
    @TheCompanyRepresentative 8 місяців тому +6

    Can we just get a pokemon rival who is just blatantly a murderer, but praises us heavily for being a good person?

    • @Leonidas1210vc
      @Leonidas1210vc 8 місяців тому +2

      Ooooh that sounds kinda good, a neat switch up.

    • @jeffreyhoon
      @jeffreyhoon 8 місяців тому +5

      Murdering? In our Pokemon games? Oh no! That won't do!
      Better to have cosmic superpowers duke it out to destroy humanity than have someone be a killer, that's the worst! Kidnapping pokemon and people is fine though.

  • @themysteriousoa4466
    @themysteriousoa4466 8 місяців тому +6

    Everyone wish Lily The Fox Mechanic a Happy Birthday!

  • @Raddflyer
    @Raddflyer 8 місяців тому +3

    Yeah, I would have liked to see Cheeseburger silhouetted in the nuke..... "Told ya so!" -Joseph

  • @Iamaperson-f3r
    @Iamaperson-f3r 8 місяців тому +2

    2:41 this is just what you do for fighting games... Seriously just button mash don't come up with a strategy the combos will just happen and you'll do something pretty awesome it works for almost any game that involves fighting.

  • @GainingDespair
    @GainingDespair 8 місяців тому +2

    Back during my late teens I was at a party with mg GF we where all playing Wii games and she constantly told me to put the wrist strap on.
    I ignored her I was having fun, but eventually it slipped my hand while playing Wii bowling. She got very angry I just gave her a hug and told her she was right.

  • @pheunithpsychic-watertype9881
    @pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 8 місяців тому +9

    If you have the physical version of the game it's more likely to be the original

  • @Zarcasi
    @Zarcasi 8 місяців тому +1

    1:23 At least they didn't make the giant look like 2 towers

  • @ashurad_fox5991
    @ashurad_fox5991 8 місяців тому +1

    6:30 yes it still exist on Right Shift Key for me and it's quite bad when I play some unity "games" and can't skip dialog

  • @ianweckhorst3200
    @ianweckhorst3200 8 місяців тому

    10:45 heavy sniper is a pretty fun and famous video, it’s only natural to experiment with, and apparently someone tried switching while eating a sandvich, which crashed the game

  • @10.ikadekanandadwipayadnya83
    @10.ikadekanandadwipayadnya83 8 місяців тому +2

    6:00
    Correction Noble
    They are making new games, new sequels to those old games

  • @illdoittomorrow2368
    @illdoittomorrow2368 8 місяців тому +1

    I can confirm sticky keys is still a thing after furiously mashing the shift button

  • @kabob0077
    @kabob0077 8 місяців тому +1

    9:30 A Battle Maniac and Low Tier Trainer are the best, imo.

  • @neodragonwyvern
    @neodragonwyvern 8 місяців тому +1

    11:27 TEARS OF THE FALLEN KINGDOM!!!

  • @sarcastic_ocupie1669
    @sarcastic_ocupie1669 8 місяців тому +2

    Dangoheart’s dad is built like Joseph Joestar from Battle Tendency

  • @themysteriousoa4466
    @themysteriousoa4466 8 місяців тому +1

    3:44 I can’t listen to this music without thinking of someone editing Jimmy Here “dancing” to it!

  • @S.A.F.T.I
    @S.A.F.T.I 8 місяців тому +2

    Frozen Greatsword is the true Elden Ring waifu.
    I can even proc frostbite on the first phase of the final boss. Nothing else affects him, but the increased damage effect of frostbite does.

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 8 місяців тому

      Frozen Greatsword becomes a jet
      Well, it fits her tho!

  • @jameswoolard3121
    @jameswoolard3121 8 місяців тому +1

    The Ai was like wait up hold on what's going on here. Learns son's fighting patterns than the fathers random button mashing left it lose for a moment cause no one else has played on his profile.

  • @patriciocarrasco7641
    @patriciocarrasco7641 8 місяців тому +1

    the thing is Noble, that the one in the meme is not Solid Snake, long story but he is not the one they put in Fortninte

  • @Mikisoq39
    @Mikisoq39 6 місяців тому

    "Are ya winning son"
    Kazuya beat me
    "Were is that wee little shiddo"

  • @cia6953
    @cia6953 8 місяців тому +4

    It’s been a long time since I’ve watched one of your videos ❤

  • @Kasmilus1313
    @Kasmilus1313 8 місяців тому +1

    10:20 This will be difficult because you can't make "blue" dye. It would be necessary to create the appropriate structure of its spines like that of a blue butterfly. And for them to grow this way. This sounds like something we won't live to see anytime soon unless we find a way for ai to learn how to create genetic instructions.

  • @Mr-Green0
    @Mr-Green0 8 місяців тому +3

    5:04
    Is Mario doing an emote?

  • @catluvr2
    @catluvr2 8 місяців тому +1

    2:47 I did this for my cousin when he couldn't beat a Soul Caliber boss.

  • @theangryotaku3361
    @theangryotaku3361 8 місяців тому +3

    11:41 looks like the One Piece fighting game got leaked

  • @amesnya7440
    @amesnya7440 8 місяців тому +5

    can't wait for a bowsette meme of that

  • @ConnorSinclairCavin
    @ConnorSinclairCavin 8 місяців тому

    There are very rare mutations that can cause a blue hedgehog, but it also tends to sort of doom them to a very short life of hell considering the other effects it has on them. Or at least one paper i read about it while looking into gene editing notated.

  • @0bsidianPrime
    @0bsidianPrime 8 місяців тому +1

    I've always rebound my sprint and crouch keys in Minecraft because default fries my muscle memory. Every other game I have sprint is on shift, but not Minecraft.

  • @VyxelOP
    @VyxelOP 8 місяців тому +1

    I feel called out by Kita at the end there.

  • @reddragon2943
    @reddragon2943 8 місяців тому +2

    6:53 so true.

  • @Jonk2014
    @Jonk2014 8 місяців тому +2

    0:02 Jack Black felt that

  • @Kabhitman1
    @Kabhitman1 8 місяців тому +2

    Yeah knowing how to play a fighting game and then losing to a button masher hurts

  • @leonoliveira8652
    @leonoliveira8652 8 місяців тому

    Opens up with a certified Chibidoki moment

  • @aaron75fy
    @aaron75fy 6 місяців тому

    *Ken talking about how a cat wouldn't be a persona user*
    Morgana: am I a joke to you?

  • @Jack_Rakan
    @Jack_Rakan 8 місяців тому +1

    Ah yes, customization in fighting games. I remember me and my cousin secretly making custom characters in 'Smackdown vs RAW' on the PS1 before fighting each other.... And we both showed up with the exact same dude in slightly different clothing because we both wanted to see what would happen if we just turned all the sliders to maximum and gave the character Goku's Super Saiyan hair.

  • @jsl151850b
    @jsl151850b 8 місяців тому +4

    8:36 *You're welcome.*

  • @Mr-Green0
    @Mr-Green0 8 місяців тому +1

    11:41
    Oh my God!
    What are those things?!

  • @isakhagg243
    @isakhagg243 8 місяців тому +1

    A strong, fit and muscular Ranni.
    11/10.
    How else will she be able to hold on to those Darkmoon Greatswords she gifts to the Tarnished Consort. It’s a heavy blade. Long and strong, just like her.

  • @fenriraynnaynbatrin4076
    @fenriraynnaynbatrin4076 8 місяців тому +2

    Bowser got defiled

  • @JaxHolo
    @JaxHolo 8 місяців тому +1

    2:23 No don't let take them TADC, please The fandom will riot over that.

  • @AlexanderVonMalachi
    @AlexanderVonMalachi 8 місяців тому

    2:38 reminds me how I first tried Cronika's tower in MK11 on normal on a gamepad(i haven't held one for about a decade at that point) without really playing any fighter games ever at like 4 in the morning while drunk and dying of heat with my left wrist lancing with pain. I then threw the fucking gamepad at a friend and told him to launch a normal fucking game.

  • @skycastrum5803
    @skycastrum5803 8 місяців тому

    Have an int/str character now. It’s a third party class that can use int for combat, but is using a weapon that needs 16 str to lift. I fill a strange role in the party... Primarily the “smart guy” but also the only one of us able to unscrew a pickle jar.

  • @johnmartinez-valentin5427
    @johnmartinez-valentin5427 8 місяців тому +2

    That's one adorable hedgehog

  • @blzbfallenangel
    @blzbfallenangel 8 місяців тому +1

    You didn't get the joke in 2:00
    The reason why that meme triggered that reaction wasn't the "Fortnite" part. It's because the Snake in Ground Zeroes is Big Boss, formerly know as Naked Snake in MGS3. Solid Snake was made as a clone of Big Boss

  • @Birdthefeatheredone
    @Birdthefeatheredone 8 місяців тому +3

    what are you talking about? 60fps? 9:50 A stable 30 is more than enough for any and all standard use cases. World design, world rendering, and performance bugs, and glitches are the main issues of SV. The FPS cap is not one of them.

    • @557deadpool
      @557deadpool 8 місяців тому

      30 FPS is dogshit

    • @addison_v_ertisement1678
      @addison_v_ertisement1678 8 місяців тому

      ​@@557deadpoolNo, it isn't.

    • @557deadpool
      @557deadpool 8 місяців тому

      @@addison_v_ertisement1678 yes it is, any game running at 30 FPS in 2024 is garbage.

  • @geoserenity
    @geoserenity 8 місяців тому

    "skies of arcadia needs a remaster"
    skies of arcadia legends on gamecube: am i a joke to you?

  • @Phoenixoflife56
    @Phoenixoflife56 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m hyped for the remake of The Thousand Year Door

  • @Mustache99
    @Mustache99 8 місяців тому

    If Bowser works like a normal turtle he Is gonna have problems doing anything

  • @thesparrow8333
    @thesparrow8333 8 місяців тому

    the eevee couch looks well organized

  • @normaldude24
    @normaldude24 8 місяців тому

    7:23 that's still how I feel about Mass Effect 3. To this day, the ending debacle still clouds my enjoyment of the other mass effect games.

  • @MICHAELTUMANGDAY
    @MICHAELTUMANGDAY 8 місяців тому

    The faster way to get Bowser to turn into Bowsette in by hitting him in the butt lol

  • @clarehidalgo
    @clarehidalgo 8 місяців тому

    8:00 The thing is Games are not Digimon's primary income, the V-pet toys are. One of my best friends is a V-pet addict (read as masochist) has like 50-60 of them (mix of Tamagotchi and Digimon) and runs 10 devices all at the same time some of which allow you to raise 2 at one. I can barely emotionally handle taking care of two on one device

  • @AricShadowDragon
    @AricShadowDragon 8 місяців тому

    Making abominations with character creator is just fun and horrifying to see in cutscenes XD Anyways keep up the amazing videos Noble

  • @darrylferguson3622
    @darrylferguson3622 8 місяців тому

    7:08 The sad context of that image is that (if i remember things correctly) TVCrank had lost his father sometime before he played TLOU 2 and had grown attached to Joel because of how he acted as a father figure to Ellie, and yeah... if you know TLOU 2, i don't have to say why that disk is getting cut.

  • @NeonValkyrieGaming
    @NeonValkyrieGaming 8 місяців тому +1

    Hmm I felt called out playing through M&L dream team during the video Noble if you see this give into the urges and stream them while your at it

  • @Fuzon-S
    @Fuzon-S 8 місяців тому

    1:18 Damn, Bandai Namco hard at work developing Ace Combat 8

  • @ramonsanchez6903
    @ramonsanchez6903 8 місяців тому

    Great meme reaction, Video aww poor Bowser

  • @duphasdan
    @duphasdan 8 місяців тому

    With the last meme, it reminds me of the time I saw a guy play a custom character in a Soild Calibur game. It was a thug looking black guy wearing a helment and other gear. If the helment breaks a massive pink afro pops out.

  • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
    @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 8 місяців тому +1

    Str is one N away from an extremely popular fluff addiction.
    ...you cannput the pieces together

  • @helpfulDeathgod
    @helpfulDeathgod 8 місяців тому

    you really said thundercunting uncensored, holy shit xD

  • @lordbaconweeb
    @lordbaconweeb 8 місяців тому

    Huh neat Jelloapocalypse AND Lost Pause Like Skies! Kool!

  • @aegrisomnia
    @aegrisomnia 8 місяців тому +1

    4:30
    Are we still not over the "Vtubers are probably all fat nerdy men in their 40s" thing. It has been proven time and time again that LITERALY every Vtuber is super hot IRL.

    • @jason4443
      @jason4443 8 місяців тому +1

      Including Noble, huh?

  • @redrocket8062
    @redrocket8062 8 місяців тому

    11:43 got that AOT body build.

  • @laziboi5285
    @laziboi5285 8 місяців тому

    Only time i had a wii remote slip outta my hand was when it was brand new and was playing the wii sports game

  • @blacksaiyantrevor
    @blacksaiyantrevor 8 місяців тому +1

    STR and INT
    Me asf: Dokkan battle

  • @M_Alexander
    @M_Alexander 8 місяців тому

    A Skies of Arcadia remake or even rerelease would be so good

  • @TheWabungus
    @TheWabungus 8 місяців тому

    string and integer builds are crazy