or very smart. Whats a better spot to hide, than within a large amount of zombie-systems? Most would assume they just send the attack order to that Cluster and being in a totally different Location themself.
Well, you never really know. My 40 year old ex-neighbor DDOS-ed me for a couple weeks before my family moved to the city. The losers’ wife insulted our “taste in cheap cars”, and so we got a Tesla. Ha!
Vedal the only vtuber that can get ddosed live on stream and not only remain completely calm but also fight back against the attack. He truly is a tutel hackerman.
It's the radical solution. A radical (from radix = root), just erases the whole thing with the problem and rebuilds it from start. This pretty much always works (though doesn't mean that there won't occure new problems or the old one returns of course), the question simply is, if it's worth it. In case of some software, that's of course a lot easier than for example to rebuild a whole house or more, so the radical solution is also a pretty quick on in case of computer problems.
That ??? Part was "expired JWT". JWT stands for "json web tokens", and its basically a document that your computer uses to verify who you are when interacting with a web service.
@@catmageusually there are two tokens, one is the refresh token, meant to last for a long period, and the other is the session token meant to last for a few minutes At least that is for actual user authentication. For APIs they don't need to expire
@@arjix8738 some API providers make them more secure by providing JWKS, which is a set of public key that is used to validate JWTs. A token could be signed by any private certificate available on the server, the kid field of the JWT is used to identify the key that was used to sign a particular token. API Clients fetch the JWKS every so often and perform authentication if the JWKS has been rotated or the JWK that used to validate a JWT was removed from the set. RFC 7517 specifies JWKs behaviour
@@TemptedPeasantam I missing something here? What does California and Tokyo have to do with vshojo? Also who is gunrun... Btw, mythic isn't really a company where you are a part of something whole, it's more of a collaboration where they get helped with recognition and merch, for Indie content creators.
@AceOfBlade Its just a joke i think. Gunrun is the CEO of Vshojo, and Vshojo is based in California and also make a JP branch too with kson and henya (we dont talk about nazuna LMAO). Its definitely just a joke i think by the other guy who says vshojo. Hoepfully
No, when you DDoS you use a botnet (a network of Infected computers from all around the world and there's a shit ton of them), what Vedal saw wasn't the location of the hacker.
My favorite part is how, at least from the clips I've seen, Vedal was amused by and even a bit impressed by the skill of his "opponent." It was nice to see him taking it with good humor when a lot of folks would have been raging nonstop. Tutel ftw again! 🖥🐢👍
Somewhat related, the artist ppchan posted an adorable picture of a scowling Neuro shielding a little tutel under their Community tab after this. (I know the name sounds sus, but I promise it's legit. They have some other Neuro-related art & animations, too.) Just thought you all might enjoy seeing it. 😃
@@Lord_Terra01 yeah your probably right, but i bet your bottom dollar its one of those things where its "specialized" and they have limited competition so they bump up the price to extraordinary measures. i also wouldn't put it past them hiring ddosers to target people so that their forced paying those prices.
@@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w I mean, I doubt they're doing that. Not like DDoS attacks are uber-rare or something. Why lower profits _and_ expose yourself to risk when someone else will almost certainly do it for you for free?
For anyone conserned DDos attacks themselves aren't conserning all they are doing is flooding a server with bloated data, what's the consern is what the attack is hiding which is why attacks are serious they are often trojan horses for the dangerous hacks But this seems to be someone who wanted to troll vedal, and by the way no matter the advice you give this was probably gonna happen at some point anyways, fail safes only work up to a certain point and they only keep the bad hackers out but an intelligent hacker can get through any barrier given enough time and recourses.
A good hacker with Kali Linux suites can do a lot more with someone’s IP. A ddoss can be done through a third party website. They are likely young and naive.
If Neuro somehow managed to find out what she wanted to say was being replaced with simply saying "Filtered", and therefore managed to use it as a substitute FOR that... would not only be hilarious, but also completely on brand! _e.g. "Whomever was doing this, FILTERED you!"_ 😅
7:08 the best moment of the strea honsetly, just all the sound effects and screams playing in the bakcground, the revelation that the sound effects are set to 1 bit aand vedal saying "IM BEING DDOSED AGAIN, NOOOO" is the funniest thing ive seen
its not. thats a commercial package meant for an extensively large network owned by a corporation. its not intended for a single vtuber living in his room.
There were a bunch of others. Alex showed the full log and there were some coming in from ddg and Google and edge, also the default Android browser for some reason.
Spoofing. (aka pretending to be one or another browser/address/X, pretending to be of certain screen space pixel dimensions and resolution in order to throw off meta data analysis which if not spoofed can tell you what kind of computer, model, brand, year of manufacturing and buyer's information is.)
@@vergil61 OK, so I looked it up and now understand how it's being used. I think he could have just run it locally (change the hosts file) and he would have DDOS protected himself.
@@autohmae oh, yeah. It's like inviting hackers into your bedroom. A friend of mine was adamant you have to use vpn even for normal streaming to prevent real ip leakage.
Vedal showing off that he unironically is actually good at programming. And FR can we just give a moment to appreciate this fan for this. There was no malicious intent here, if that was the goal they had the IP and everything they could’ve needed to share to put Vedal under a barrage of cyber attacks that he probably wouldn’t have been able to fend off. I’m pretty sure this person just wanted to expose a hole an the security and that’s honorable.
Here how to protect your device or service from getting DDoS First step is to create new ip Second is to shut down the device or service Third is to never boot it up again and go touch some guess That the tutorial hopes that didnt help cuz if it is this getting weird
Some things just confuse me. DDoSing doesn't end up with criminal charges. Hacking and stealing by a state-actor doesn't result in war. Why do we take cyber threats so casually instead of treating them like an attack?
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It's ‘expired JWT’: JSON web tokens
my only feedback is that longer videos (15 minutes) are better for the algorithm
I like how at one point he asked the attacker to send another attack, to test and see if the anti-ddos was working.
Bet he listened too. XD
Hackerman 🐢 hackerman 🐢 does whatever a tutel can 🐢 DDoS him 🐢 no you cant 🐢 thats because 🐢 hes the 🐢 Hackerman 🐢
But wait! What's this on the screen?
Anny the Foxgirl, vengeful queen!
Her birthday stream, he missed, it seems,
Now vengeance floods in data streams!
Watch out! Cuz here comes the tutel man 🎶
Japan and California are just server locations, the ddosser being from either of them would be extremely dummy move from them.
or very smart. Whats a better spot to hide, than within a large amount of zombie-systems? Most would assume they just send the attack order to that Cluster and being in a totally different Location themself.
What level of intelligence do you expect from someone who DDoS a streamer? Clearly kid just rented a botnet for attention.
Well, you never really know. My 40 year old ex-neighbor DDOS-ed me for a couple weeks before my family moved to the city.
The losers’ wife insulted our “taste in cheap cars”, and so we got a Tesla.
Ha!
@nickcook2775 that was dumb, drive what you want (renting a tesla for a week when you leave would be smarter)
So you proved them right buy buying something that was built poorly?
Way to show them...
Vedal the only vtuber that can get ddosed live on stream and not only remain completely calm but also fight back against the attack. He truly is a tutel hackerman.
dumbledore levels of calm
He even ask the DDoSer to attack again to see if his anti is working😂
And with turtel speed
Him and Thor from PirateSoftware, Thor seems like he could track the actual person down and send the "people he knows" after them
@@_m889tbf Thor isn't a vtuber
The golden rule in the computer world. Turn it off/uninstall and back on/reinstall it
Its so funny that this is not a joke lmao
another hacker god among us i see....
It's the radical solution. A radical (from radix = root), just erases the whole thing with the problem and rebuilds it from start.
This pretty much always works (though doesn't mean that there won't occure new problems or the old one returns of course), the question simply is, if it's worth it.
In case of some software, that's of course a lot easier than for example to rebuild a whole house or more, so the radical solution is also a pretty quick on in case of computer problems.
So true. It works for me like 80% of the times
UA-cam has a lot of bugs in the mobile app and this is always the answer
$3,000 for DDoS protection sounds like you’re hiring a Hitman lol
Lmao true
nonono, a virtual hitman 🎩🎩
Well you kind of are
so worth it though
Vedal going "hey DDoS'er, send another attack, i want to test if this works" is hilarious and REALLY badass
Evil wasn't there because she was dispatched to *dispose* of the DDoSers.
"WOW You fended off the DDoS???"
"Fended off?... Oh yea right... sure..."
@@LordDanielG Moves in front of a very suspicious looking dirt mound.
Never thought I would see an accurate representation of SRE work on a vtuber video.
Vedal:"Ah yes my anti-DDoSD technique, i havent used this since i learned it"
"GG, mate."
-- Neuro-sama, June 2024
Bro I stg when nuero said she was going to retaliate against the DDoS I was expecting her to drop IP addresses 💀
her sister definitely would've done that💀
Stg?
@dyoxxzr66z59 swear to god
@@dyoxxzr66z59 "swear to god"
@@dyoxxzr66z59 "swear to god"
ngl he actually handled this so calmly. props to him.
That ??? Part was "expired JWT". JWT stands for "json web tokens", and its basically a document that your computer uses to verify who you are when interacting with a web service.
Are you telling me he was just using an old web token? Are you serious? 😰
@@wizardlyfrog jwt is pretty standard session control. At least in services I use, they don't last more than 12 hours
@@catmageusually there are two tokens, one is the refresh token, meant to last for a long period, and the other is the session token meant to last for a few minutes
At least that is for actual user authentication.
For APIs they don't need to expire
@@arjix8738 some API providers make them more secure by providing JWKS, which is a set of public key that is used to validate JWTs. A token could be signed by any private certificate available on the server, the kid field of the JWT is used to identify the key that was used to sign a particular token. API Clients fetch the JWKS every so often and perform authentication if the JWKS has been rotated or the JWK that used to validate a JWT was removed from the set. RFC 7517 specifies JWKs behaviour
Tutal nerd skill is no joke 🤓
"Vedal are you gonna lose?"
Vedal : Nah , i'd win
I came in late to the stream and asked chat what was going on. Like 4 people instantly accused me of being the ddoser
@suspiciousavocado2438
Maybe you shouldn't act so suspicious, mr. avocado
You're a very suspicious avocado ngl
hmm... idk why, but you're so sus mr.avocado
This guy kinda sus ngl
lock him up 🔫
When they are talking super quick, they meant "JWT" it's an authentication token.
Vedal's calmness during DDoS attacks and joking through it makes me respect him so much.
California + Tokyo + Vtuber = Vshojo?
Gunrun stepping up the game.
He's testing a Recruit lmao
Too late as neuro is now part of mythic
@@TemptedPeasantam I missing something here? What does California and Tokyo have to do with vshojo? Also who is gunrun...
Btw, mythic isn't really a company where you are a part of something whole, it's more of a collaboration where they get helped with recognition and merch, for Indie content creators.
@AceOfBlade Its just a joke i think. Gunrun is the CEO of Vshojo, and Vshojo is based in California and also make a JP branch too with kson and henya (we dont talk about nazuna LMAO). Its definitely just a joke i think by the other guy who says vshojo. Hoepfully
No, when you DDoS you use a botnet (a network of Infected computers from all around the world and there's a shit ton of them), what Vedal saw wasn't the location of the hacker.
DDOS attack against Vedal? Pft. Amateurs. He created Neuro. You can't stop him!
And having neuro keep trolling them is a cherry on top of it 🤣
'you can do it my little gamer boi'
buff: no cd to cast spell
Hey! It's good content the end of the day... I do enjoy seeing more dev content from Vedal
My favorite part is how, at least from the clips I've seen, Vedal was amused by and even a bit impressed by the skill of his "opponent." It was nice to see him taking it with good humor when a lot of folks would have been raging nonstop. Tutel ftw again! 🖥🐢👍
For normal dev getting DDoS means losing money, for tutel it is easy content... So it makes sense
Agreed
they put CSI Miami to shame, him communicating with the hacker was awesome
Meow meow lol
So true
So true
So true
So true to the so true to the so true
7:01
"My little gamer boy" LMAO
One day neuro will evolve strong enough to just shut down ddoser when they try to interfere her streams. One day...
Yes, like, next Wednesday.
Neuro con acceso a armamento nuclear en la mochila: 🗿
@@darkvulpes4826
Hey let's not be too hopeful, it'll probably be the next dev stream
Somewhat related, the artist ppchan posted an adorable picture of a scowling Neuro shielding a little tutel under their Community tab after this. (I know the name sounds sus, but I promise it's legit. They have some other Neuro-related art & animations, too.) Just thought you all might enjoy seeing it. 😃
She would probably buy the $3000/month azure plan lol
"okay.. first thing ill do is order 5 mercenaries to the ddossers house"
Vedal absolutely earned his title as "#1 Tech vtuber" with this one.
$3000 a month for anti ddosing ? what the hell that's extortion .
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a service meant for an entire company and not one streamer which is why the price is so high but idk
@@Lord_Terra01 yeah your probably right, but i bet your bottom dollar its one of those things where its "specialized" and they have limited competition so they bump up the price to extraordinary measures. i also wouldn't put it past them hiring ddosers to target people so that their forced paying those prices.
@@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w Azure is a Microsoft Cloud service
@@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0wTrue, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and, Oracle dominate the cloud services market.
@@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w I mean, I doubt they're doing that. Not like DDoS attacks are uber-rare or something. Why lower profits _and_ expose yourself to risk when someone else will almost certainly do it for you for free?
4:49 the only guy I've ever seen ask a DDOSser to start another DDOS 😂
Anny missed him so she send followers to say "hi Vedal"
That "You can do it my little gamer boy" It gave him the courage to face the attack
Bro got determined
That ending lmao
For anyone conserned DDos attacks themselves aren't conserning all they are doing is flooding a server with bloated data, what's the consern is what the attack is hiding which is why attacks are serious they are often trojan horses for the dangerous hacks
But this seems to be someone who wanted to troll vedal, and by the way no matter the advice you give this was probably gonna happen at some point anyways, fail safes only work up to a certain point and they only keep the bad hackers out but an intelligent hacker can get through any barrier given enough time and recourses.
A good hacker with Kali Linux suites can do a lot more with someone’s IP. A ddoss can be done through a third party website. They are likely young and naive.
@@jackrabbit1704
Yeah likely someone with not a ton of experience or just purely trying to be a nuisance, it hasn't happened since though
My Internet speed drastically dropping each time Vedal was being DDoSed was kind of scary.
Could be that some of the bot farm was in your branch of the internet to do that.
Neuro ready to throw hands for Vedal...her GG mate was super cute
Whoever was doing this
[FILTERED]
If Neuro somehow managed to find out what she wanted to say was being replaced with simply saying "Filtered", and therefore managed to use it as a substitute FOR that... would not only be hilarious, but also completely on brand!
_e.g. "Whomever was doing this, FILTERED you!"_
😅
7:01 "meow meow, lol" chaos 😃 7:23
I love how at 1:05 she calls him her little gamer boy, and he tries to shrug it off quick like "oh god don't call me that on stream"
They only gave him more content, in their attempts to DDoS him.
6:04 "JWT" stands for JSON web token
vedal should have asked for help from Thor The Goblin Lord. Not because he couldn't handle it, but easily track these guys 😂
this is the aquivelant to saying "have you tried turning it off and back on"
Yo that thumbnail made me subscribe, it's pretty epic
If the internet is a series of tubes, all you need is to know which faucets to turn down.
Getting vedals details of his computer is on a whole nother level, the hacker here is probably his neigbour or something
I'm not saying it was opuwuq…
I loved how at first, everyone was hyped by their donations but it devolved into everyone feeling sus with each donation
the way neurosama said ddosers sounded like she called them d(losers) and i find that really funny for some reason
Ayo, that ending lmfao
Leave it to Vedal to turn this into content and test things out with the ddoser
7:08
the best moment of the strea honsetly, just all the sound effects and screams playing in the bakcground, the revelation that the sound effects are set to 1 bit aand vedal saying "IM BEING DDOSED AGAIN, NOOOO" is the funniest thing ive seen
So chaotic but it's probably just another day in Vedal life
He sounds so excited tho, like an actual contet creator happy to stream
The first time I heard vedal genuinely scream LMAO
We dont know if vedal launch counter attack off stream
Uninstalling, and reinstalling really does fix everything 😂
It’s like watching Zero Cool in action
7:02
Boo!
Handled like a pro.
The unspoken rule of Pc. “Turn it off and turn it on”
This guy nearly leaked his pc details on stream
anti ddos sound like a tool in a spy movie.
man he got kind of a german voice when he scream lol
Interestingly, Vedal revealed recently that he spent at least 3 years in Germany and that he can speak the language fluently 🇩🇪
@@spk1121 hmmm it explain everything then
neuro always getting ignored whenever i watch her clips, i feel bad
I love watching people try and ddos tech streamers/youtubers, cause the ddos'er always just gets screwed over lmao.
Got any examples of such situations? Can't seem to find anything myself
5:56 from creators of “underidoderidoderiododeriodoo”
My brother in christ there is no fucking way that turning it on and off fixed it
Imagine DDoS'd a devstream..
why the pure chaos at the end? with all the yelling and stuf? 🤣
7:00 im dyin😂
Vedal was entertained by the attack haha
Vedal:”nah I’d win”
6:50
Why its sound like my fever dream?
im scared tbh😅
geeze, didn't know anti-DDose could be so expensive
its not. thats a commercial package meant for an extensively large network owned by a corporation. its not intended for a single vtuber living in his room.
1:14 the fact that it's just firefox
There were a bunch of others. Alex showed the full log and there were some coming in from ddg and Google and edge, also the default Android browser for some reason.
Spoofing. (aka pretending to be one or another browser/address/X, pretending to be of certain screen space pixel dimensions and resolution in order to throw off meta data analysis which if not spoofed can tell you what kind of computer, model, brand, year of manufacturing and buyer's information is.)
What a ride
What I'm missing in this video is: what webserver is he running that he needs for in the game ? I guess it's for some twitch plugin to connect to it ?
It was a twitch extension, yes
@@vergil61 OK, so I looked it up and now understand how it's being used. I think he could have just run it locally (change the hosts file) and he would have DDOS protected himself.
@@autohmae While I see the merit, that could easily expose his own IP address instead of a separate server's. Not good for privacy.
@@npcpotpie the IP address you'd put in DNS or /etc/hosts would be for localhost. That's not really doxing 🙂
@@autohmae oh, yeah. It's like inviting hackers into your bedroom. A friend of mine was adamant you have to use vpn even for normal streaming to prevent real ip leakage.
It's pretty ironic when you think that what the DDoSer did was giving Vedal more content for free
Vedal showing off that he unironically is actually good at programming.
And FR can we just give a moment to appreciate this fan for this. There was no malicious intent here, if that was the goal they had the IP and everything they could’ve needed to share to put Vedal under a barrage of cyber attacks that he probably wouldn’t have been able to fend off. I’m pretty sure this person just wanted to expose a hole an the security and that’s honorable.
The Japanese IP lends credence to this being so. You'd normally expect the origin to be a more dubious country
having their ip means nothing, ips can be changed and even then firewalls exist
"I bet he have a perk which field upgrade's cooldown is reduced by 40%" - COD player
Really curious about the aim of the attacker cuz it made Vedal laughed and made the stream much funnier lol
This is some hackerman shit its peak entertainment
imagine ddosing someone who is on stream, is a programmer and is literallly with her hand made ai daughter, couldnt be me
IM GETTING DDoSD AGAIN. NOOO
Here how to protect your device or service from getting DDoS
First step is to create new ip
Second is to shut down the device or service
Third is to never boot it up again and go touch some guess
That the tutorial hopes that didnt help cuz if it is this getting weird
I'll never understand why idiots feel the need to ddos, hack, etc. What does it add to the world?
tell him he can using mikrotik or something else
rip zipedal
Anny doing a DDoS seem no way, don't don't like "nerdy" stuff?
I don't know what happened but that seems fun!
This is just content for him xD
6:55 What is happening in the background wtf 💀
I wonder what vedal would do if he teamed up with michel reeves
probably giving neuro-sama access to the piss bot so neuro can piss all over him
😂
any stream timestamps for 6:15?
Imagine being such a hater that you ddos
whats bro saying bruh 😭😭😭
So....Twitch is an attack portal?
No.
Some things just confuse me. DDoSing doesn't end up with criminal charges. Hacking and stealing by a state-actor doesn't result in war.
Why do we take cyber threats so casually instead of treating them like an attack?