"Wow" every time I watch your videos my brain increases slightly in size with knowledge. A very informative down to earth easy to understand video that leaves me wanting to get every record I have cleaned, even the new ones that are yet to be played. But, yes there's a but, I live in Australia and sending records this far in the post would not only incur a huge cost factor, but also increase the risk of further damage and that would bring me to tears 😪. So as said in a comment below how about franchising this service, "to me"??? With a complete course in the process together we could make people happier with records that sound the way they should in Australia too. A huge thank you to both of you Rocco and Steve for taking the time to educate the masses, it's been a pleasure to watch this video and have my eyes opened to things that we don't have any idea about and never would figure out by ourselves. Cheers Rocco and Steve have a great day and please continue the good work as its invaluable info that we in vinyl community need, whether we know it yet or not.
I hear you on the shipping costs, I just got an MMW record shipped from Australia! The humminguru is a good home alternative or the degritter. The degritter is more expensive. I personally still use a VinylVac homemade solution and it seems to work well for most things.
Rocco, thanks for doing the interview with Steve. I came across your channel as I was searching out more information about him and his service and I do appreciate your putting the emphasis on what he had to say. The manner in which you conducted the interview was what caused me to subscribe. I have been collaborating with another owner of Degritters (he has two, I have one. He also has a Kirmuss), working through processes to achieve optimal results and while we won't claim to have achieved what Steve has, we've gotten close enough to know that what he's saying about cleaning vs optimization is true. We have done enough auditions after each step in our processes to know there comes a point where some magic occurs. Now, we've always assumed it was the result of our finally stripping away some films previous passes didn't remove, without having any idea what exactly might comprise those films. Is all the work we're doing getting us to the level of his? No, I doubt it. But we've been kind of bitten by the same bug he has, so are as interested in investigating the methods as we are in the results. I would say this about his pricing. It's fair. If anything, if one were to fully examine the time he puts into each disc, the financial committment to the equipment, it's more than fair.
Very cool. I kept waiting for the catch. Seems worth the $150 just to establish a optimization point of reference. I avoid shipping anything maybe I’ll move to Wicanasin 😂 Franchise Think about it📞
the catch is you can now buy an inexpensive ultrasonic record cleaning machine for about $400, and that the video maker got his records cleaned for free, plus he gets some content to talk about. So what do you expect him to say? People have reported over a thousand cleanings so far, the durability of the low priced ultrasonic is unknown because the machine has only been out about two years. I'm getting an ultrasonic needle cleaner from the same company, and am hoping and waiting for a deal on a high end German ultrasonic machine .
On a slightly different (but still related) topic: Being a new collector, I have watched a few dozen videos thus far on cleaning/maintenance. Almost everyone agrees that the old paper inserts should be thrown out and replaced with (anti-static?) inserts. My question is in regard to the new glossy-type inserts, it almost seems like Kodak photo paper. Since my collection is small, the best example I can give is Lana Del Rey's new release (Ocean Blvd). The inside sleeve is a slick, high-glossy material with art work. Do you consider this a less-than-optimum carrier for your vinyl? I have purchased a large quantity of Inner/Outer sleeves, and have already replaced some old-school paper inserts, so that's not an issue. Thank you for your good channel!
I should add the Lana Del Rey record I purchased was Target's 'limited edition' version, if it matters-I don't know how it differs from other releases.
I always toss white paper inner sleeves. I always replace all sleeves with Hudson hi fi inner sleeves. They are good and cheap. You can 500 at a time. Or packs of 25. I never put my vinyl in any printed sleeves they always go in a rice paper sleeve.
The advice about not using the paper sleeves is because most old records , and some new, used just plain paper, which can contaminate the playing surface as it got old. Many new inner sleeves have advanced from those old primitive constructions, along with the price charged, and have a coated interior . The rice paper sleeves referred to in the comment actually are coated inside, so the rice paper never touches the records. Another thing to avoid are some of the old inner sleeves which were straight plastic , not paper, but were the wrong kind of plastic, very thin like a produce bag in a grocery store. Some report these will, given enough time and hot weather, bond to the record, and should be replaced . If you want to go full collector style, you store everything in an outer storage bag, with the vinyl placed in an inner sleeve, outside and behind the outer sleeve, so the over sleeve doesn't risk splitting, or even get handled for play. Collectors like good cardboard .
So, what you guys are saying is that we shouldn't even use the old style Discwasher brush (not the modern impostor) with a solution because that also messes up the record? I dunno about this. I always use my classic Discwasher brush on a used or new record dry a couple of times first and then wet (Audio Technica cleaning solution) and it really does seem to take a lot of crap off the records. I tried a carbon fiber brush before, and it ended up dropping fibers all over my records. I got rid of it and never tried another brand. I don't know if maybe mine was faulty or if that's how they all are. I have a few previously-owned records that have been a challenge for my Discwasher though, so I may ship them out to this guy to clean them. I don't know if I need to do that for my new records.
We always recommend not wetting records unless you have a machine to physically remove the solution like a vacuum or ultrasonic record cleaning machine. To do otherwise - you risk pushing wetted contaminants (paper fragments, dust, etc.) into the groove where they’ll dry and become very difficult to remove. Audioquest carbon fiber brushes with the conductive pads on the handle are recommended. They can be purchased for about $25.
@@Steve-PerfectVinylForever I've had this before, and the fibers fell off onto the record. That's why I ended up buying a classic Discwasher brush on eBay (not the modern knockoff). That has been the only brush that has performed well in picking up particles from my records without leaving its own.
REALLY good - I have been getting into more Ska lately I have had this digitally since it came out - back in 2003 - but since getting it on vinyl now - I have really come to enjoy it a lot more.
@@PiecesofVinyl speaking of Ska, just in case you weren’t aware, The Specials self-titled 40th anniversary 45rpm Abbey Road half speed master is back in print after being out of print for a few years. It’s KILLER and only $30.
My whole thing is that I don't trust people. If I lived nearby I would do it all the time...but to send it and then hope it comes back...and let's say you have some rare stuff or original...just something that you can't just get easy...it doesn't matter if cost is covered...you ain't getting that back. And this isn't diss on PVF....diss is more on US postal service...the way you see how they handle some of the packages in some videos....they just throw them in truck....I could never. Sounds like a great service and if you live nearby should proably at least try it out....but posting is such a risk. Even more so nowdays. I'm pretty sure Steve is gonna come up with mass produciton machine if he hasn't already. And the reason will most likely be postal services...or their lack of quality.
I hear that. I was very concerned sending off the box - it is a good box and safely packaged - but the post office doesn’t care about fragile and worst case it gets lost.
@@PiecesofVinyl Yeah it gets "lost"/stolen by someone from post office (not saying all are like that but there are some sh*tty post office workers that should be fired)...you can send it 100 times and 100 times comes back better than before. But you send it 101 th time and box gets "lost" or damaged during delivery. Those records would either be gone or unplayable. This might kinda sound stupid...but every record is kinda hard to get after it's released. At first it may seem that it's everywhere but then years pass...pressing changes, maybe company changes,etc. but that record stays the same. Again if I lived nearby I would just go there, drop it and pick it up again when done.
I question why anyone would send money to a guy who makes unbelievable statements supported only by his personal opinions, without any actual facts to support these opinions. If someone want their records cleaned , fine with me . But this guy cranks the sales hype into fantasy levels. That an expensive repressing of a classic old record might sound duller than an original first pressing , does not mean it needs this guys processing, it means that the reality that recording tape gets slightly demagnetized after every play has happened to a master tape that has probably been used enough to have been degraded slightly , in addition to the passage of about fifty years or more, as in the example used, "kind of Blue, and "Are you Experienced ". That is why audiophiles seek out first edition pressings of records , for sound quality, unlike record collectors , who value them for other reasons. To clarify , this guys say a plasticizer is added to the vinyl to mold the record, when in fact the vinyl is just formulated for making records, with heat and pressure only molding the vinyl. there is no additional substance that needs to be removed, since the intrinsic molecular vinyl lattice is reformed by heat and pressure into a molded shape, , no molecular bonds are broken, just reformed. So no molecules need to be, nor could they be, removed as some kind of " manufacturing artifact" . If some extra plasticizer was needed for molding this material into records beyond heat and pressure, why wouldn't the record be unstable without the heat and pressure , and continue to deform , like some kind of putty, especially around some of the finer information impulses, around the size of bacteria. It would seem they would be the first to go. One need only to examine the record playing process to provide even more proof. Because the frictional heat as the needle passes actually does, monetarily, break the molecular bonds, only for such a brief instant that they reform into the same molecular lattice once the needle has passed. If the effect this charlatan describes actually took place, this same residue would surface during every play, and would need to be removed every time the record is played, since this described material would break free of the other molecules and reform as a separate molecular layer, whenever the downforce pressure keeping the cartridge in the groove, and the effect it creates, passes. I am not disputing that cleaning is beneficial , or that ultrasonic cleaning can work better than vacuum cleaning, as stated in this video. Vacuum cleaning can be hard to get right, because the tendency is for the suction to instantly lift the lighter fluids , separating the fluids from the heavier stuff that was previously suspended in the cleaning solution, only to leave the heavy stuff behind, because it is unable to accelerate as quickly as the carrier fluid unless the suction is just right . Ultrasonic record cleaning is now the state of the art, vacuum cleaning used to be the best, now it isn't . This fact applies to every such cleaning, but this video implies this fact makes his service something special, beyond useful. I am unclear if the flattening service destroyed this guy record, it seemed kind of brushed under the rug, with the service owner declaring it as unplayable when he got it. The same intrinsic characteristic of vinyl "remembering" the original molded shape, even after it is deformed , is exploited with vinyl flattening. unlike , for instance, steel, vinyl will return to the, in this case flat record, of the original molded molecular lattice if warmed sufficiently to reform. If you were actually breaking molecular bonds when pressing a warped record back into a flat record , using heat and pressure, you would get the fictional , " manufacturing artifact" that would again have to be removed. But in reality, all you are doing is allowing the original molded molecular lattice to reform. This de-warping is sometimes done with sunlight heating paper covered vinyl pressed between two panes of glass, but of course the care needed is impractical for a commercial service. I have accidentally removed a bad ski jump warp on a record by leaving it in very tightly pressed storage over an unknown number of years, at room temperatures. I think a service that cleans records is useful, if you need it. Most records could probably use a good ultrasonic cleaning, it certainly couldn't hurt. I do think pitching the service as being needed to clean stuff that isn't there is taking advantage of people who probably don't know how human hearing works, that the human brain will create illusions indistinguishable from reality to the listener . A whole lot of expensive audio connectors are sold on what people think they hear, without these buyers knowing how human hearing works. I think this guy is pushing too hard to hold onto a business model that was more viable before consumer ultrasonic record cleaning machines became commonly available. He should accept reality, instead of becoming the guy selling miracle gas milage extenders that fit inside your car's air intake, that Detroit doesn't want you to know about .
hey thanks for watching and the spirited comment - always welcome! At the end of the day I can say this - I had 16 records cleaned professionally for less then half the price of the humminguru - which is a pinch of what the KL Audio costs - science proof or not - they sound amazing and I am very pleased with the result and the customer service - and I think most people who don't own these expensive machines would benefit from this as well. As for the warp - my record - when I got it - was "playable" in terms that it actually tracked the record - but it was a roller coaster for the cartridge and mostly it didn't touch the platter. I should have returned it - and probably could have gotten a refund - but I was impatient and really wanted/hoped that it could be fixed by this service and (because I really wanted that record...) the de-warping attempt made the tonearm kick out (left/right) - the record did get somewhat flat - but the tonearm kick was too strong and on side two it actually melted the grooves. Again - I knew of these risks going in - and he even offered to replace my record - which I turned down since I should have just returned it! Two others I sent in did get flattened and one was REALLY bad and they are both 100% now. I would not make a video or recommend something that I would not stand behind - I stand behind this service - it's not for everyone - for some people they should just buy more records - for others - they should invest thousands in a high end machine and do it themselves. My hope is the channel/these videos can help you decide....and maybe be little entertaining!
@@PiecesofVinyl I dont see one has to invest in a cleaning machine that costs 1000s. I myself made a D.I.Y vacuum cleaning machine that has the same results as the one that cost 4 grand or so for less the cost of one new LP , than i also made the cleaning solution with 99.9999% pure both alcohol and water . the results are superb. P.S. please state how much each lp costs to clean including every thing shipping etc etc. i m waiting☺☺☺
"Wow" every time I watch your videos my brain increases slightly in size with knowledge. A very informative down to earth easy to understand video that leaves me wanting to get every record I have cleaned, even the new ones that are yet to be played. But, yes there's a but, I live in Australia and sending records this far in the post would not only incur a huge cost factor, but also increase the risk of further damage and that would bring me to tears 😪. So as said in a comment below how about franchising this service, "to me"??? With a complete course in the process together we could make people happier with records that sound the way they should in Australia too. A huge thank you to both of you Rocco and Steve for taking the time to educate the masses, it's been a pleasure to watch this video and have my eyes opened to things that we don't have any idea about and never would figure out by ourselves. Cheers Rocco and Steve have a great day and please continue the good work as its invaluable info that we in vinyl community need, whether we know it yet or not.
I hear you on the shipping costs, I just got an MMW record shipped from Australia! The humminguru is a good home alternative or the degritter. The degritter is more expensive. I personally still use a VinylVac homemade solution and it seems to work well for most things.
Thanks for this! I have been considering the service. Now it's time to do it!
Rocco, thanks for doing the interview with Steve. I came across your channel as I was searching out more information about him and his service and I do appreciate your putting the emphasis on what he had to say. The manner in which you conducted the interview was what caused me to subscribe. I have been collaborating with another owner of Degritters (he has two, I have one. He also has a Kirmuss), working through processes to achieve optimal results and while we won't claim to have achieved what Steve has, we've gotten close enough to know that what he's saying about cleaning vs optimization is true. We have done enough auditions after each step in our processes to know there comes a point where some magic occurs. Now, we've always assumed it was the result of our finally stripping away some films previous passes didn't remove, without having any idea what exactly might comprise those films. Is all the work we're doing getting us to the level of his? No, I doubt it. But we've been kind of bitten by the same bug he has, so are as interested in investigating the methods as we are in the results. I would say this about his pricing. It's fair. If anything, if one were to fully examine the time he puts into each disc, the financial committment to the equipment, it's more than fair.
Thanks for watching. It’s def. a never ending slope and it’s a premium but it’s def. Worth it.
Huuuuuahhhhhh! Well done!
Very cool. I kept waiting for the catch. Seems worth the $150 just to establish a optimization point of reference. I avoid shipping anything maybe I’ll move to Wicanasin 😂
Franchise Think about it📞
the catch is you can now buy an inexpensive ultrasonic record cleaning machine for about $400, and that the video maker got his records cleaned for free, plus he gets some content to talk about. So what do you expect him to say? People have reported over a thousand cleanings so far, the durability of the low priced ultrasonic is unknown because the machine has only been out about two years. I'm getting an ultrasonic needle cleaner from the same company, and am hoping and waiting for a deal on a high end German ultrasonic machine .
On a slightly different (but still related) topic: Being a new collector, I have watched a few dozen videos thus far on cleaning/maintenance. Almost everyone agrees that the old paper inserts should be thrown out and replaced with (anti-static?) inserts. My question is in regard to the new glossy-type inserts, it almost seems like Kodak photo paper. Since my collection is small, the best example I can give is Lana Del Rey's new release (Ocean Blvd). The inside sleeve is a slick, high-glossy material with art work. Do you consider this a less-than-optimum carrier for your vinyl? I have purchased a large quantity of Inner/Outer sleeves, and have already replaced some old-school paper inserts, so that's not an issue. Thank you for your good channel!
I should add the Lana Del Rey record I purchased was Target's 'limited edition' version, if it matters-I don't know how it differs from other releases.
@Daniel Smith thanks Daniel!
I always toss white paper inner sleeves. I always replace all sleeves with Hudson hi fi inner sleeves. They are good and cheap. You can 500 at a time. Or packs of 25. I never put my vinyl in any printed sleeves they always go in a rice paper sleeve.
The advice about not using the paper sleeves is because most old records , and some new, used just plain paper, which can contaminate the playing surface as it got old. Many new inner sleeves have advanced from those old primitive constructions, along with the price charged, and have a coated interior . The rice paper sleeves referred to in the comment actually are coated inside, so the rice paper never touches the records. Another thing to avoid are some of the old inner sleeves which were straight plastic , not paper, but were the wrong kind of plastic, very thin like a produce bag in a grocery store. Some report these will, given enough time and hot weather, bond to the record, and should be replaced . If you want to go full collector style, you store everything in an outer storage bag, with the vinyl placed in an inner sleeve, outside and behind the outer sleeve, so the over sleeve doesn't risk splitting, or even get handled for play. Collectors like good cardboard .
So, what you guys are saying is that we shouldn't even use the old style Discwasher brush (not the modern impostor) with a solution because that also messes up the record? I dunno about this. I always use my classic Discwasher brush on a used or new record dry a couple of times first and then wet (Audio Technica cleaning solution) and it really does seem to take a lot of crap off the records. I tried a carbon fiber brush before, and it ended up dropping fibers all over my records. I got rid of it and never tried another brand. I don't know if maybe mine was faulty or if that's how they all are. I have a few previously-owned records that have been a challenge for my Discwasher though, so I may ship them out to this guy to clean them. I don't know if I need to do that for my new records.
We always recommend not wetting records unless you have a machine to physically remove the solution like a vacuum or ultrasonic record cleaning machine. To do otherwise - you risk pushing wetted contaminants (paper fragments, dust, etc.) into the groove where they’ll dry and become very difficult to remove. Audioquest carbon fiber brushes with the conductive pads on the handle are recommended. They can be purchased for about $25.
Thanks for watching!
@@Steve-PerfectVinylForever I've had this before, and the fibers fell off onto the record. That's why I ended up buying a classic Discwasher brush on eBay (not the modern knockoff). That has been the only brush that has performed well in picking up particles from my records without leaving its own.
Did you ever try an ultrasonic cleaning machine?
Yes!
Is PVF the company that sends you the LP mailers ahead of time? I definitely want to try them.
They do send mailers for you to send your vinyl back to them if that is what you are asking. It’s a great service!
How is the studio one ska record ? My copy arrives next week
REALLY good - I have been getting into more Ska lately I have had this digitally since it came out - back in 2003 - but since getting it on vinyl now - I have really come to enjoy it a lot more.
@@PiecesofVinyl speaking of Ska, just in case you weren’t aware, The Specials self-titled 40th anniversary 45rpm Abbey Road half speed master is back in print after being out of print for a few years. It’s KILLER and only $30.
I’m doing so many bad things 🤦♂️
Haha. I need a humming guru with only distilled water.
My spin clean (with solution) sounds like is doing harm. Fck.
Def rinse. If you are using the spin clean I would recommend a cheap vacuum solution to go with it. Like VinylVac w/ a shop vac or similar.
@@PiecesofVinyl you were supposed to say, “Jay just get a humming guru “ and then i could show my wife and have her totally convinced!
@@PiecesofVinylyou made me commit to buying a hummingguru! Pulled the trigger. Machine is on its way 🤙🏻
My whole thing is that I don't trust people. If I lived nearby I would do it all the time...but to send it and then hope it comes back...and let's say you have some rare stuff or original...just something that you can't just get easy...it doesn't matter if cost is covered...you ain't getting that back. And this isn't diss on PVF....diss is more on US postal service...the way you see how they handle some of the packages in some videos....they just throw them in truck....I could never.
Sounds like a great service and if you live nearby should proably at least try it out....but posting is such a risk. Even more so nowdays.
I'm pretty sure Steve is gonna come up with mass produciton machine if he hasn't already. And the reason will most likely be postal services...or their lack of quality.
I hear that. I was very concerned sending off the box - it is a good box and safely packaged - but the post office doesn’t care about fragile and worst case it gets lost.
@@PiecesofVinyl Yeah it gets "lost"/stolen by someone from post office (not saying all are like that but there are some sh*tty post office workers that should be fired)...you can send it 100 times and 100 times comes back better than before. But you send it 101 th time and box gets "lost" or damaged during delivery. Those records would either be gone or unplayable. This might kinda sound stupid...but every record is kinda hard to get after it's released. At first it may seem that it's everywhere but then years pass...pressing changes, maybe company changes,etc. but that record stays the same.
Again if I lived nearby I would just go there, drop it and pick it up again when done.
I question why anyone would send money to a guy who makes unbelievable statements supported only by his personal opinions, without any actual facts to support these opinions.
If someone want their records cleaned , fine with me . But this guy cranks the sales hype into fantasy levels.
That an expensive repressing of a classic old record might sound duller than an original first pressing , does not mean it needs this guys processing, it means that the reality that recording tape gets slightly demagnetized after every play has happened to a master tape that has probably been used enough to have been degraded slightly , in addition to the passage of about fifty years or more, as in the example used, "kind of Blue, and "Are you Experienced ". That is why audiophiles seek out first edition pressings of records , for sound quality, unlike record collectors , who value them for other reasons.
To clarify , this guys say a plasticizer is added to the vinyl to mold the record, when in fact the vinyl is just formulated for making records, with heat and pressure only molding the vinyl. there is no additional substance that needs to be removed, since the intrinsic molecular vinyl lattice is reformed by heat and pressure into a molded shape, , no molecular bonds are broken, just reformed. So no molecules need to be, nor could they be, removed as some kind of " manufacturing artifact" . If some extra plasticizer was needed for molding this material into records beyond heat and pressure, why wouldn't the record be unstable without the heat and pressure , and continue to deform , like some kind of putty, especially around some of the finer information impulses, around the size of bacteria. It would seem they would be the first to go.
One need only to examine the record playing process to provide even more proof. Because the frictional heat as the needle passes actually does, monetarily, break the molecular bonds, only for such a brief instant that they reform into the same molecular lattice once the needle has passed. If the effect this charlatan describes actually took place, this same residue would surface during every play, and would need to be removed every time the record is played, since this described material would break free of the other molecules and reform as a separate molecular layer, whenever the downforce pressure keeping the cartridge in the groove, and the effect it creates, passes.
I am not disputing that cleaning is beneficial , or that ultrasonic cleaning can work better than vacuum cleaning, as stated in this video. Vacuum cleaning can be hard to get right, because the tendency is for the suction to instantly lift the lighter fluids , separating the fluids from the heavier stuff that was previously suspended in the cleaning solution, only to leave the heavy stuff behind, because it is unable to accelerate as quickly as the carrier fluid unless the suction is just right . Ultrasonic record cleaning is now the state of the art, vacuum cleaning used to be the best, now it isn't . This fact applies to every such cleaning, but this video implies this fact makes his service something special, beyond useful.
I am unclear if the flattening service destroyed this guy record, it seemed kind of brushed under the rug, with the service owner declaring it as unplayable when he got it. The same intrinsic characteristic of vinyl "remembering" the original molded shape, even after it is deformed , is exploited with vinyl flattening.
unlike , for instance, steel, vinyl will return to the, in this case flat record, of the original molded molecular lattice if warmed sufficiently to reform. If you were actually breaking molecular bonds when pressing a warped record back into a flat record , using heat and pressure, you would get the fictional , " manufacturing artifact" that would again have to be removed. But in reality, all you are doing is allowing the original molded molecular lattice to reform. This de-warping is sometimes done with sunlight heating paper covered vinyl pressed between two panes of glass, but of course the care needed is impractical for a commercial service. I have accidentally removed a bad ski jump warp on a record by leaving it in very tightly pressed storage over an unknown number of years, at room temperatures.
I think a service that cleans records is useful, if you need it. Most records could probably use a good ultrasonic cleaning, it certainly couldn't hurt. I do think pitching the service as being needed to clean stuff that isn't there is taking advantage of people who probably don't know how human hearing works, that the human brain will create illusions indistinguishable from reality to the listener . A whole lot of expensive audio connectors are sold on what people think they hear, without these buyers knowing how human hearing works.
I think this guy is pushing too hard to hold onto a business model that was more viable before consumer ultrasonic record cleaning machines became commonly available. He should accept reality, instead of becoming the guy selling miracle gas milage extenders that fit inside your car's air intake, that Detroit doesn't want you to know about .
hey thanks for watching and the spirited comment - always welcome! At the end of the day I can say this - I had 16 records cleaned professionally for less then half the price of the humminguru - which is a pinch of what the KL Audio costs - science proof or not - they sound amazing and I am very pleased with the result and the customer service - and I think most people who don't own these expensive machines would benefit from this as well. As for the warp - my record - when I got it - was "playable" in terms that it actually tracked the record - but it was a roller coaster for the cartridge and mostly it didn't touch the platter. I should have returned it - and probably could have gotten a refund - but I was impatient and really wanted/hoped that it could be fixed by this service and (because I really wanted that record...) the de-warping attempt made the tonearm kick out (left/right) - the record did get somewhat flat - but the tonearm kick was too strong and on side two it actually melted the grooves. Again - I knew of these risks going in - and he even offered to replace my record - which I turned down since I should have just returned it! Two others I sent in did get flattened and one was REALLY bad and they are both 100% now. I would not make a video or recommend something that I would not stand behind - I stand behind this service - it's not for everyone - for some people they should just buy more records - for others - they should invest thousands in a high end machine and do it themselves. My hope is the channel/these videos can help you decide....and maybe be little entertaining!
@@PiecesofVinyl I dont see one has to invest in a cleaning machine that costs 1000s. I myself made a D.I.Y vacuum cleaning machine that has the same results as the one that cost 4 grand or so for less the cost of one new LP , than i also made the cleaning solution with 99.9999% pure both alcohol and water . the results are superb.
P.S. please state how much each lp costs to clean including every thing shipping etc etc.
i m waiting☺☺☺