It’s hard to put to words the feeling I get hearing of people who lived and loved and existed in a town that sadly can just fade away into time. Life is so vast, we can live our lives and will still be forgotten by time.
It is both amazing and somewhat sad to realize how many lost fishing/logging communities there are around Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Quebec. I can't help but think of all the hours of work and danger they went through to raise a community out of the wilderness. And how little remains to commemorate their struggles. It isn't often I get to hear stories about the history of the areas I grew up, so I really appreciate it. There is a rich history in Nova Scotia, but it can be startling how little we are taught of it.
@@jlt131 I would like to visit more places like that in BC. It is a big province so you need lots of time! The thing that gets me on the east coast is there are now buildings on Grand Manan that I remember standing in and eating a smoked herring in as kid that have collapsed. I couldn't have known as a child that the entire way of life around me would perish. And I would watch it happen. Perhaps that is true of all generations. But that thought does little to take the sting out of my own experience of it.
@@emusaurus not nearly as valuable as your contribution to this conversation 🙃 Thank you for blessing us with your superfluous negativity. Perhaps therapy would be a better time investment than history for some.
When a wild goose chase turns up ANYTHING even a nail, to me, that’s SOOOOOO exciting. When I was a child my mom used to take me exploring abandoned houses. That still excites me at almost 68!!!
Ghost towns and settlements in humid climates tend to just "melt" into the ground, whereas there are more visible remains in dry places, such as the N. American/Canadian West. It's great to see another story of Canada's past. Thank you. I just started watching your channel and I'm really enjoying it. Loved that you pointed out that "...that's his dog, not him..." LOL.
I like poking around old former town locations such as you did at Shulie. It never ceases to amaze me when walking through dense forest and rugged terrain that it was even possible that anyone erected buildings on the land. Yet in old photographs it would look level and fairly groomed. There are thousands of locations just like this. Thank heavens that historians chronicle these tales for people to learn, enjoy, and pass along to future generations.
Tom, this was such a fun video. Your personal attachment to the area and people was very special and there were many many parts where my husband and I were either surprised or amazed. Great video
I’m from PEI but have many roots in Nova Scotia, thank you for sharing our history which is so often forgotten, and thanks to your wife’s grandfather for keeping history alive
I know you said in a previous video that your ghost town videos don't have as many views as your ship videos but I very much do enjoy and appreciate them made me appreciate the smaller quiet towns in the United States and gets me interested to visiting them
As a French Canadian, the term sous lis, yes can mean under read, but the context is missing. It most likely means sous lis, under the lily as in the fleur de lis, Symbol of French Crown. Meaning they are under French rule, not English rule. At the time the distinction was important because of tension and wars between French and English.
Hey Tom. I hope you see this. My husband worked in a saw mill in the 1970s and saw a lot of old machinery that was still in the process of being dismantled/replaced. His best guess for the object in the mud is that it was one half of a "housing unit" (for lack of better description) used for holding a mill saw blade. A rod would have gone through the middle, locked in with pin and bolts, then extended through the blade and into the duplicate half of the housing unit on the other side. Each component would have been connected as one operational piece. Anyway, he said that would be his educated guess....the first thing he said was "That's old, square bolts! You haven't seen those for a long time." Then I told him why I was showing it to him. Enjoyed the documentary, and now Bill will watch it, too.
What a beautiful memory for you, your grandfather-in-law, and your father-in-law! This will be something you can show your son when he's older and share the generational love of exploration and adventure!
my grandfather did this as well, i believe in the late 1930s. unfortunately the barge sunk at some point along the way, and since they were in very remote BC coastline, it took him and his wife several days to get to civilization, and everyone was convinced they had died. none of their belongings were ever recovered.
@@jlt131 They must have been tough as nails to survive that, crazy to think there's a sunken house off the coast out there similar to a shipwreck site. They'll find that in 1000 years and theorize that the entire population of BC lived on houseboats along the coast lol
I grew up along the Bay of Fundy and there's a lot of houses that were just floated along or across the bay at some point in their history. The house I grew up in wasn't one of them but it was built before the confederation of Canada which was pretty neat.
@@sadBanker902 I grew up in Annapolis Royal, we have all the old houses but the Digby Gut helps keep it all in place fortunately. The whole town could be walled in and turned into a museum, I take it for granted sometimes but some of my formative years and experiences were backdropped by an absurd amount of history. Just one little example out of probably a thousand, I used to skip school sometimes (my unfortunate rebellious years lol) and the go to "hiding" spot was at Fort Anne, just a casual early 17th century star fort to wander around in my little hometown.
I was just up in that area camping just last week, passed right over the Shulie bridge a few times. You can feel the history up there driving thru small towns where the main businesses are antique shops and craft stores. Come on up the Valley way, I'll help ya go find Aalders Landing out in the woods. This town had a bowling alley, churches, and was apparently the end of a railway from another ghost town further south. No roads, no trails, but its out there.
Another equally interesting, but a little bit more better known place (In the valley anyways) is New France located about 30km in from Weymouth, it was also know as the Electric City, the Stehelin family operated a lumber mill there that supplied power to Weymouth over 20 years before the rest of Digby county had access to electricity. The interesting history in this province is one of the few things that keeps me here
@@ryanschofield9507 Dude, I was just going to mention New France and how it was called electric city. I was thinking about this literally 3 seconds before I got to your comment... so strange.
Hello from North of Sweden, and old logging county of Västernorrland. Nice video. Most hardware lost from this era but the storys are still around. Story from my childhood: We keept loggin the old way by-water in to modern age here. So interesting timber canals was built to get around the waterpowerplants. When they shut down the timber-by-water method, the canals were used as a means to travel, by walking, skateboards or riding bikes between villages for a time. These canals mostly built in wood roted away ofc and was torn down in the end. Missed by a lot of the locals.
Please consider a segment on the "lost town" of Valsetz, Oregon, at one time a thriving community with a high school, many businesses, and high employment, until limited access to timber and the environmental consciousness forced its demise within a generation: abandoned, bulldozed and razed. It was not a logging camp, it was a town with hundreds of people.
2 years ago on the way to Joggins I stopped on that bridge and took some pictures of the river, not realizing that so much history was around me. Thanks for putting this together.
i wonder how many places i’ve driven through like this once beautiful place and have no idea as to what history it beholds. your comment has me thinking!
Being from rural Nova Scotia, this unlocked a childhood memory of exploring the different woods/shores and finding different things/hearing similar stories. Thanks for that!
That was beyond repulsive that those wooden crosses were kicked over. Those were placed there by people who loved them. Desecrating a grave is absolutely vile. Nova Scotia is my very favourite place in the world, what a shameful thing to see there! You really packed alot of information in this video, well 👏🏻done young man, thank you for sharing this!👍🏻😄🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦(Ottawa)
It may not have been kicked. The river is tidal and experiences one of the highest tides in the world. The river could have easily undercut the ground underneath causing the ground above to subside. There's a modern cemetery on the other side of that bay that I know is having a similar issue with graves at risk of being undercut and washed out to sea.
My take is that with some browsing, we'd find more scenarios similar to the one he demonstrated. Proper stones were installed and those crosses were discarded down an out of the way slope by the maintenance people with no disrespect intended is how I see it happening. It was found on an embankment in the bush, not on the flat burying ground.
Grew up in Springhill NS, and I can confirm that graves wash out along the bay of Fundy all the time. Highest tides in the whole world. It is also possible that they weren't kicked there, but they may have rotted along the ground line and broke off, and the position and owner of the grave could of been lost to time from lack of upkeep. It's not like every major city in the world hasn't built over old grave sites knowingly at some point... Nova Scotia is the oldest European settled place in North America outside of the vikings in Newfoundland, old grave yards are very common and the winters are very unforgiving to wooden structures of all sorts. Even actual headstones would be heaved and broken from the frost. The winters are miserable in Cumberland county, or used to be before global warming anyway.
Like @charlieross-BRM mentions- they probably weren't vandalised. The graves might have been exhumed then moved, or just given a new headstone (like the Greer girl), then the old crosses left down the hill. Possibly.
Interesting story. My father, Elmer L Brown (b 1902) lived in Shulie (he spelled it Shulee) from 1906-1917 and wrote his memoirs of Shulee and surrounding area Joggins, Sand River, Apple River, Flat Brook, Two Rivers, River Hebert, Chignecto, etc and the families living in Shulee when he was a boy.
Grew up in Springhill, very familiar with all these places, but at 40 years old I never knew about Shulie, and I've been over that bridge dozens and dozens of times...
I sure wish my dad had written his memoirs. He grew up in a wonderful place called Kenora Ontario, and it was even more wonderful way back then, in the 1920s and 30s. (Except for the paper mill that polluted a lot, but employed hundreds of people.)
This was awesome! I wonder how many such tiny communities have vanished in our country. One of my sons' friend's Eagle Project was rehabilitating an old pioneer cemetery West of our town. It is now ranch land and forest, but it was once a small, tight-knit community of which none of us had ever heard. I don't think it was even mentioned in the county museum. I will never forget one row of tiny headstones marking the graves of a series of small children from one family. I just can't even imagine.
On behalf of my family the Pattersons’, I would love to thank you for this! Not only are you preserving long lost history… you are preserving memories for the newer generations, and I appreciate it more than any words than I could express at this moment. So again Thank you from my family and myself Darcy Patterson.. one of many descendants of the Patterson’s from Shulie, NS. 💕
I have a town in Kentucky called Kyrock. The original town has disappeared and there's no way to get to the original site but I would love to hear what you could find out about it and do a episode about it. Thank you.
It's not that obscure but in southern Indiana near Louisville (Charlestown) there is a small abandoned amusement called Rose Island. It was closed due to damage from that huge '37 flood. There is nothing much left now but it is a pretty place to hike.
@ibkristykat all access to it no longer exists. You can still see the water tower but all roads have been taken over by earth. The town was built in 1918 and became popular for the material used to make blacktop roads. The town disappeared by 1958. Google it just type in (KYROCK, KENTUCKY) it's in Edmondson County. Not far from Nolin Dam. I would love to see if there's anything left. I've always been entrigued by it. For over 30 years my parents had a cabin at the lake near the dam and we heard about Kyrock and tried to learn more about it. There's still a school named KYROCK elementary.
@hondoklaatu1904 the the town I live in, we still call it Colesburg, KY but most the town scattered after the flod in 37. It still floods but nowhere near then what is use to. I love living here peace and quiet.
3:11 Fascinating to hear Fred speak, when he says "My names Fred Priest..." and he sounds as though he has light, perhaps Devon or maybe Somerset accent. it's only when comes to the end of the sentence, "he ran a black smith shop there." Does his accent sound North American. Listening to Fred speak it's amazing. Obviously I appreciate Fred may have moved about throughout his life, but if he was raised in the area and didn't move from the area until he was an adult, then it seems as though a lot of his ancestors accent has stayed with him and the those in that area. Also more broadly an excellent piece of work and a perfect tonic for less than reasonable Tuesday.
It's so humbling to learn about the lives of people who did the pioneering work establishing little towns & built businesses & grew up families while we tend to take for granted that every town started this way, it's just sad that some never quite made it for long ! Thank you, this video just appeared in my list - very interesting !
as the crow flies,I'm less then a 100 miles from joggins and this is the first time I ever heard of "shulie" and the log raft that was sent to new york..very interesting
I love and respect how you give the gone and (almost) forgotten their voice and dignity back. Thank you for sharing this. We need to see and understand this history before it is lost.
This was interesting. I lived in the Maritimes for four years while attending Mount Allison University at the top of the Bay of Fundy. Joggins was a regular destination while studying geology my first year there. It is a famous geological and dino fossil site now. I have travelled that highway down the Cumberland straight to the south of Nova Scotia stopping and visiting many abandoned grave sites on the way. So much history in old grave sites.
Was surprised to see this video…..just happened across it in a random fashion. My maternal grandfather, Frank C Robinson of Moncton, New Brunswick was involved in the Shulie sawmill/logging enterprise…..how exactly, I don’t know…..may have been one of the owners or managers. Only remember my mother mentioning this place various times but because I was young, never paid much attention. Own a wonderful old colourized photo of Shulie depicting some logs, wharf, river and ship. It is hanging on my wall. Thanks for the interesting video!
Fascinating! You really are very good at these documentaries. You are polished but personable and it's clear you do a ton of research and prep work. Thank you for sharing your interests with us. 🙂
In Shediac New-Brunswick there is an island called Shediac Island and there was once a small town on this small island but now there is only ancient roads and foundation’s on the island. and there is a couple houses in shediac that were once on the island that got transported across the bay during the winter. Shediac is a beautiful place with a lot of maritime history so if you are ever in New-Brunswick make sure to visit Shediac Island!
Grindstone Island would be interesting too - down route 114 toward Alma. There’s a story that it’s still technically British land because of some odd contract loop-hole, and is now empty save the foundations of buildings.
Fascinating ! I live abiut 100 km from Shulie. My grandfather who had roots in Port Elgin New Brunswick spoke of this and many other lumber mills. His family had a large cabinet making business in Moncton NB. Thank you for such a great video.
My family grew up a 25 minute car ride from there, lived in Springhill until I was 19, never knew there was a town there, never knew there was a mill, been over that bridge dozens of times easily.
My grandmother is from River Hebert, my grandfather was from Amherst, so as a kid they’d bring us kids (from Moncton) to the Joggins fossil cliffs every summer. It was really neat to learn things about the area I didn’t know. Also, you’re very talented in producing your videos. You use many excellent photos and media clips, and the then/now photo & map overlays are great. You’re also a good story teller. I hated history in school because it was mostly memorizing dates things happened, which was SO boring, but you make history interesting, thank you! I’ve definitely subbed!
I love the videos with heavy content about the people, and having Emma's grandfather share with us, made it truly amazing! I was hoping those crosses were not just tossed as they were, those type of burial grounds are sacred. We have found a few in the forest north of where I reside in Saskatchewan, we give them the respect they deserve.
Your Nova Scotia videos always remind me of many happy childhood hours spent wandering the rocky shore and marshes and barrens of the rural South Shore with my Nana, looking for sea glass and artefacts, while she told me endless stories of houses that no longer stood and people that no longer lived there, in the dwindling fishing community where both sides of her family made a living some 300 years. In a place like Nova Scotia there's a wealth of stories hidden beneath what at first glance might look like pastures and mud and stands of trees seemingly untouched by anybody. I really enjoy listening to you respectfully, curiously dig them up like so much beach glass and bring some fragment of what once was back into the light.
Imagine going out to the middle of nowhere building a couple houses with your buds and cutting down trees and selling them. Good luck trying that today. Wish it was that easy now.
Imagine taking the land that was already inhabited by other people (first nations) as free estate, destroying the environment (gathering natural ressources and exporting it by the millions in another country to make a few bucks) and expecting it to last. Other people that were living WITH nature (nature as the environment, the wilderness, not as a deity), instead of AGAINST it. Well, when you live against nature, this is what happens. Oh, wait. This might have a name. It is called colonialism... This place (Shulie), should not be a memory to be fond of and to dream upon "a better time". It should be a reminder of what not to do.
Thank you. What an awesome video. Very well done. My Dad is Fred's first cousin, so I recognize and am related to many of the ancestors you mentioned. What a lovely way to remember them. So many of the stories we hear over the years will be forgotten. Again, thank you.
Good job. Another Nova scotia 'ghost town' if you haven't done it already is The Electric City otherwise known as New France, Nova Scotia just outside of Weymouth.
21:59 It’s the White House closest to you that was moved there. You can see that the overhang and the gazebo were removed, but the three front windows line up perfectly. Also, you can see the low part at the back of the house is where the overhang/ porch roof was attached to. It even has the door in the same place. That is definitely the house.
Oh my goodness, that grave of Greer children it’s the saddest thing. Their poor parents 😳😭 It was very moving to see how upset you were that the crosses had been thrown off the top of the cliff- you’re a very good and kind person, with a deep respect for others. And your family is adorable!
I wonder if those crosses could have been temporary markers, no longer needed after stone monuments were carved? Just a thought, but it would fit with those such as the Greer cross where there is now a more permanent grave marker.
Love love love this presentation‼️. I also love anything about Nova Scotia and you did a beautiful narration young man. Thank you for making my day so enjoyable and I look forward to more of your wonderful work. ❣️‼️
Thanks for doing this video btw. Im from NS if you ever need help. Many wonderful stories and mysteries and tales across the atlantic provinces. Not to mention the scenery
May I suggest you visit Westville, Pictou Co. and discover what it was like in it's heyday back when it had three coal mines. One of which, the Black diamond Mine supposedly left a locomotive and coal cars within the mine. I am 68 and heard that story when I was around 12 in the 60s, when the last underground mine switched to deisel to haul coal cars to the siding not far from where I grew up.
Hey, you seem to spend a lot of time around the maritimes. You should check out the new france settlement near weymouth ns in digby county! It would make for an interesting video. The town had a rudimentary railway system (with tracks made from logs if i recall correctly) and was referred to as the electric city as they had their own power grid (in the 1890s!) I think the community and work force was mainly black, mi'kmaq and acadien, who were paid better wages than could be found in white english lumber camps. Please consider it covering it! Thanks for the great content by the way.
I’d like to hear the story of Westchester Mountain near Truro. My family were from their and many of my ancestors are buried in the Little Rushton cemetery. Very few people life on the mountain now. Beautiful and pristine Isaac lake.
I live in cape breton nova Scotia and there is an abandoned mining town about 40 minutes away. Broughton you can still see some of the foundations and road ways are still slightly visible old cars falling out of a hill side where they were buried all covered in forest but you can still find it
Your videos are an absolute service to humanity. Thank you so much for what you do! Generations from now families will still be discovering and appreciating your work.
I only recently subscribed to this channel after watching a documentary of the SS Atlantic not realising the Canadian orientation of its content. I'll cut to the chase, I was born in Halifax N.S. in 1958 to a French Canadian from Montréal and British mother from Portsmouth. I left Canada in 1961to return to the UK with my mother. I have never returned to Canada and honestly never felt the impulse to do so. The content I've already watched since subscribing has, for the first time in my life given me the emotional motivation to return and see the countryside and place on the planet that concern me.
this video is awesome i love this!! how he brings the life back everytime i go to an abandoned house or building i always stop and imagine the lives that once filled it and its just awesome i just found this channel and i love it its amazing thank you so much for everything you do
I live in N.B i remember my mother telling me of a great grandfather, ( or what ever the relation) who used to do logging in N.S i tuely wonder if this was where he worked at one point in his, i live only a few hours from NS, i do hope to make the trip someday to this forgotten towb of shulie, thank you for sharing all this work, keep at er, would love to learn more about out countries history
What a visually stunning and well researched video. There’s beauty and tragedy in Shulie’s story. I have subscribed and I’m looking forward to watching more of your content (I love history). Keep on trucking! 👋🏼
I live in Cumberland and have been through Shulie a couple times, but I didn’t know most of the stuff you had in this video. It was really neat to watch! There’s also two other ghost towns in the area as well near advocate, Eatonville and New Yarmouth. Both are now mostly within Caep Chignecto park. Probably have similar stories to Shulie I imagine
Very cool. My brother has a blueberry farm in Frazierville..not far from Advacate. Neat to learn a little history. There seems to be many small cemeteries in the area, often full of families.
This was a great video! One thing that struck me was the color of the water being the same as in Homer's writings; the "wine dark water". I have to wonder if that's because of the minerals in the ground around there or the type of algae that grows in the water. Thank you for keeping the memories of this town alive!
Outstanding video sir! I found this a very somber video, I'm guessing because of your personal interest. It's always so neat to see the history of these lost towns. Like always, great job and thank you for taking us on the adventure.
It’s hard to put to words the feeling I get hearing of people who lived and loved and existed in a town that sadly can just fade away into time. Life is so vast, we can live our lives and will still be forgotten by time.
So true. Well said. ❤
Nature reclaimed it, and life is still thriving. Even if it isn’t human. THAT is beautiful, to me.
I think about that all the time. It’s kinda giving me some feelings lol
It is both amazing and somewhat sad to realize how many lost fishing/logging communities there are around Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, and Quebec.
I can't help but think of all the hours of work and danger they went through to raise a community out of the wilderness. And how little remains to commemorate their struggles.
It isn't often I get to hear stories about the history of the areas I grew up, so I really appreciate it. There is a rich history in Nova Scotia, but it can be startling how little we are taught of it.
And BC!
@@jlt131 I would like to visit more places like that in BC. It is a big province so you need lots of time!
The thing that gets me on the east coast is there are now buildings on Grand Manan that I remember standing in and eating a smoked herring in as kid that have collapsed. I couldn't have known as a child that the entire way of life around me would perish. And I would watch it happen.
Perhaps that is true of all generations. But that thought does little to take the sting out of my own experience of it.
Blame globalism
Not really valuable information though is it?
@@emusaurus not nearly as valuable as your contribution to this conversation 🙃
Thank you for blessing us with your superfluous negativity. Perhaps therapy would be a better time investment than history for some.
As an Acadian Ocean Liner and history enthusiast this means so much to me. Thanks for exploring more of Atlantic Canada’s history.
You are an ocean liner?
@@devinkaiser4656I don't think they meant that. 😂
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@@devinkaiser4656 yes I identify as an big, long, hard, wavy, salty and wet ocean liner.
Ive got tears in my eyes from laughing at your comments!
As a Nova Scotian I really appreciate your channel. Thank for you telling our history ❤
When a wild goose chase turns up ANYTHING even a nail, to me, that’s SOOOOOO exciting. When I was a child my mom used to take me exploring abandoned houses. That still excites me at almost 68!!!
"That's not him, that's his dog" Never stop Tom.
Oh, Lord! I burst out laughing!
Could've fooled me. 🤣🤣
Made my day 😂
Ghost towns and settlements in humid climates tend to just "melt" into the ground, whereas there are more visible remains in dry places, such as the N. American/Canadian West. It's great to see another story of Canada's past. Thank you. I just started watching your channel and I'm really enjoying it. Loved that you pointed out that "...that's his dog, not him..." LOL.
baby this is in the east
I like poking around old former town locations such as you did at Shulie. It never ceases to amaze me when walking through dense forest and rugged terrain that it was even possible that anyone erected buildings on the land. Yet in old photographs it would look level and fairly groomed.
There are thousands of locations just like this. Thank heavens that historians chronicle these tales for people to learn, enjoy, and pass along to future generations.
Tom, this was such a fun video. Your personal attachment to the area and people was very special and there were many many parts where my husband and I were either surprised or amazed. Great video
I’m from PEI but have many roots in Nova Scotia, thank you for sharing our history which is so often forgotten, and thanks to your wife’s grandfather for keeping history alive
I know you said in a previous video that your ghost town videos don't have as many views as your ship videos but I very much do enjoy and appreciate them made me appreciate the smaller quiet towns in the United States and gets me interested to visiting them
same
@levek5806 yes I know I don't live anywhere near Canada I live in Georgia
@levek5806Hey said it made him appreciate small towns in the USA. What’s so hard to understand?
@@whitequasar4686 Welcome to Canada! Even if only by watching. I hope you guys aren't too stressed out by the war in Ukraine. May you forever be free!
@@cattymajiv I'm not worried about it in the slightest I live across the ocean from Europe but thank you
As a French Canadian, the term sous lis, yes can mean under read, but the context is missing. It most likely means sous lis, under the lily as in the fleur de lis, Symbol of French Crown. Meaning they are under French rule, not English rule. At the time the distinction was important because of tension and wars between French and English.
Oooo! I love that explanation!
I'm a life-long resident of Cumberland County, Nova Scotia, and I've learned something new today. Nice work.
Hey Tom. I hope you see this. My husband worked in a saw mill in the 1970s and saw a lot of old machinery that was still in the process of being dismantled/replaced. His best guess for the object in the mud is that it was one half of a "housing unit" (for lack of better description) used for holding a mill saw blade. A rod would have gone through the middle, locked in with pin and bolts, then extended through the blade and into the duplicate half of the housing unit on the other side. Each component would have been connected as one operational piece. Anyway, he said that would be his educated guess....the first thing he said was "That's old, square bolts! You haven't seen those for a long time." Then I told him why I was showing it to him. Enjoyed the documentary, and now Bill will watch it, too.
What a beautiful memory for you, your grandfather-in-law, and your father-in-law! This will be something you can show your son when he's older and share the generational love of exploration and adventure!
I'm glad you mentioned the gravestones being pitched over the cliff. Guaranteed you heard the story about that while you were home.
The guy sailing his entire house and livelihood along the coast to a nicer spot is hilarious, he's a true Nova Scotian lmao
my grandfather did this as well, i believe in the late 1930s. unfortunately the barge sunk at some point along the way, and since they were in very remote BC coastline, it took him and his wife several days to get to civilization, and everyone was convinced they had died. none of their belongings were ever recovered.
@@jlt131 They must have been tough as nails to survive that, crazy to think there's a sunken house off the coast out there similar to a shipwreck site. They'll find that in 1000 years and theorize that the entire population of BC lived on houseboats along the coast lol
I love that his wife was busy baking bread. Can't just sit around. She's got stuff to do!
I grew up along the Bay of Fundy and there's a lot of houses that were just floated along or across the bay at some point in their history. The house I grew up in wasn't one of them but it was built before the confederation of Canada which was pretty neat.
@@sadBanker902 I grew up in Annapolis Royal, we have all the old houses but the Digby Gut helps keep it all in place fortunately. The whole town could be walled in and turned into a museum, I take it for granted sometimes but some of my formative years and experiences were backdropped by an absurd amount of history. Just one little example out of probably a thousand, I used to skip school sometimes (my unfortunate rebellious years lol) and the go to "hiding" spot was at Fort Anne, just a casual early 17th century star fort to wander around in my little hometown.
I like the way you merge the old photo’s into the new landscape, helps to get a feel for it
I was just up in that area camping just last week, passed right over the Shulie bridge a few times. You can feel the history up there driving thru small towns where the main businesses are antique shops and craft stores.
Come on up the Valley way, I'll help ya go find Aalders Landing out in the woods. This town had a bowling alley, churches, and was apparently the end of a railway from another ghost town further south. No roads, no trails, but its out there.
Sounds interesting and intriguing.
Another equally interesting, but a little bit more better known place (In the valley anyways) is New France located about 30km in from Weymouth, it was also know as the Electric City, the Stehelin family operated a lumber mill there that supplied power to Weymouth over 20 years before the rest of Digby county had access to electricity. The interesting history in this province is one of the few things that keeps me here
@@ryanschofield9507 Dude, I was just going to mention New France and how it was called electric city. I was thinking about this literally 3 seconds before I got to your comment... so strange.
Wonderful story, Tom. Good to see your Emma's grandfather, too. History lives on. Thank you for presenting this story.
Hello from North of Sweden, and old logging county of Västernorrland. Nice video.
Most hardware lost from this era but the storys are still around.
Story from my childhood:
We keept loggin the old way by-water in to modern age here. So interesting timber canals was built to get around the waterpowerplants.
When they shut down the timber-by-water method, the canals were used as a means to travel, by walking, skateboards or riding bikes between villages for a time. These canals mostly built in wood roted away ofc and was torn down in the end. Missed by a lot of the locals.
Please consider a segment on the "lost town" of Valsetz, Oregon, at one time a thriving community with a high school, many businesses, and high employment, until limited access to timber and the environmental consciousness forced its demise within a generation: abandoned, bulldozed and razed. It was not a logging camp, it was a town with hundreds of people.
Can you trade it in ghost towns in BC, Canada, British Columbia, Canada
2 years ago on the way to Joggins I stopped on that bridge and took some pictures of the river, not realizing that so much history was around me. Thanks for putting this together.
i wonder how many places i’ve driven through like this once beautiful place and have no idea as to what history it beholds. your comment has me thinking!
Being from rural Nova Scotia, this unlocked a childhood memory of exploring the different woods/shores and finding different things/hearing similar stories. Thanks for that!
That was beyond repulsive that those wooden crosses were kicked over. Those were placed there by people who loved them. Desecrating a grave is absolutely vile. Nova Scotia is my very favourite place in the world, what a shameful thing to see there!
You really packed alot of information in this video, well 👏🏻done young man, thank you for sharing this!👍🏻😄🐾🌈☮️🇨🇦(Ottawa)
I live in NS 😊
It may not have been kicked. The river is tidal and experiences one of the highest tides in the world. The river could have easily undercut the ground underneath causing the ground above to subside. There's a modern cemetery on the other side of that bay that I know is having a similar issue with graves at risk of being undercut and washed out to sea.
My take is that with some browsing, we'd find more scenarios similar to the one he demonstrated. Proper stones were installed and those crosses were discarded down an out of the way slope by the maintenance people with no disrespect intended is how I see it happening. It was found on an embankment in the bush, not on the flat burying ground.
Grew up in Springhill NS, and I can confirm that graves wash out along the bay of Fundy all the time. Highest tides in the whole world. It is also possible that they weren't kicked there, but they may have rotted along the ground line and broke off, and the position and owner of the grave could of been lost to time from lack of upkeep.
It's not like every major city in the world hasn't built over old grave sites knowingly at some point...
Nova Scotia is the oldest European settled place in North America outside of the vikings in Newfoundland, old grave yards are very common and the winters are very unforgiving to wooden structures of all sorts. Even actual headstones would be heaved and broken from the frost. The winters are miserable in Cumberland county, or used to be before global warming anyway.
Like @charlieross-BRM mentions- they probably weren't vandalised. The graves might have been exhumed then moved, or just given a new headstone (like the Greer girl), then the old crosses left down the hill. Possibly.
Interesting story. My father, Elmer L Brown (b 1902) lived in Shulie (he spelled it Shulee) from 1906-1917 and wrote his memoirs of Shulee and surrounding area Joggins, Sand River, Apple River, Flat Brook, Two Rivers, River Hebert, Chignecto, etc and the families living in Shulee when he was a boy.
Grew up in Springhill, very familiar with all these places, but at 40 years old I never knew about Shulie, and I've been over that bridge dozens and dozens of times...
I sure wish my dad had written his memoirs. He grew up in a wonderful place called Kenora Ontario, and it was even more wonderful way back then, in the 1920s and 30s. (Except for the paper mill that polluted a lot, but employed hundreds of people.)
This was awesome! I wonder how many such tiny communities have vanished in our country.
One of my sons' friend's Eagle Project was rehabilitating an old pioneer cemetery West of our town. It is now ranch land and forest, but it was once a small, tight-knit community of which none of us had ever heard. I don't think it was even mentioned in the county museum. I will never forget one row of tiny headstones marking the graves of a series of small children from one family. I just can't even imagine.
It's very sad how many children died before vaccines were invented.
I just love history like this! As a part of Canadian history it shoud never be forgotten. Well done!
Your a Wonderful Storyteller Friend ⚘️ and "That's Not Him, That's His Dog " Made Me LOL 😁
On behalf of my family the Pattersons’, I would love to thank you for this! Not only are you preserving long lost history… you are preserving memories for the newer generations, and I appreciate it more than any words than I could express at this moment. So again Thank you from my family and myself Darcy Patterson.. one of many descendants of the Patterson’s from Shulie, NS. 💕
Spoken like a true Whyte
I really enjoyed this. I live in Ontario, but born and bred in New Brunswick, a true maritimer at heart.
I have a town in Kentucky called Kyrock. The original town has disappeared and there's no way to get to the original site but I would love to hear what you could find out about it and do a episode about it. Thank you.
Despite being familiar with the area, I had not heard of this town. Thank you for mentioning it and getting me to do some research.
😮 what do you mean by "no way to get to" it? It's blocked or something? Intriguing
It's not that obscure but in southern Indiana near Louisville (Charlestown) there is a small abandoned amusement called Rose Island. It was closed due to damage from that huge '37 flood. There is nothing much left now but it is a pretty place to hike.
@ibkristykat all access to it no longer exists. You can still see the water tower but all roads have been taken over by earth. The town was built in 1918 and became popular for the material used to make blacktop roads. The town disappeared by 1958. Google it just type in (KYROCK, KENTUCKY) it's in Edmondson County. Not far from Nolin Dam. I would love to see if there's anything left. I've always been entrigued by it. For over 30 years my parents had a cabin at the lake near the dam and we heard about Kyrock and tried to learn more about it. There's still a school named KYROCK elementary.
@hondoklaatu1904 the the town I live in, we still call it Colesburg, KY but most the town scattered after the flod in 37. It still floods but nowhere near then what is use to. I love living here peace and quiet.
3:11 Fascinating to hear Fred speak, when he says "My names Fred Priest..." and he sounds as though he has light, perhaps Devon or maybe Somerset accent. it's only when comes to the end of the sentence, "he ran a black smith shop there." Does his accent sound North American. Listening to Fred speak it's amazing. Obviously I appreciate Fred may have moved about throughout his life, but if he was raised in the area and didn't move from the area until he was an adult, then it seems as though a lot of his ancestors accent has stayed with him and the those in that area.
Also more broadly an excellent piece of work and a perfect tonic for less than reasonable Tuesday.
The stereotypical Nova Scotian accent descends mainly from Irish and Scottish settlers
he sounds like many average nova scotians that age do lol
It's so humbling to learn about the lives of people who did the pioneering work establishing little towns & built businesses & grew up families while we tend to take for granted that every town started this way, it's just sad that some never quite made it for long ! Thank you, this video just appeared in my list - very interesting !
I'm from the UK, but like all things history. Great story. Well presented. Much appreciated.
Thanks for the video Tom! This should be sent to CBC or something, your work is honestly top knotch :)
as the crow flies,I'm less then a 100 miles from joggins and this is the first time I ever heard of "shulie" and the log raft that was sent to new york..very interesting
Land and sea might be a candidate
@@petermartin1954 The tv show, right?
That was a very pleasant half hour,and I needed it!Thank you.
I love and respect how you give the gone and (almost) forgotten their voice and dignity back. Thank you for sharing this. We need to see and understand this history before it is lost.
This was interesting. I lived in the Maritimes for four years while attending Mount Allison University at the top of the Bay of Fundy.
Joggins was a regular destination while studying geology my first year there. It is a famous geological and dino fossil site now.
I have travelled that highway down the Cumberland straight to the south of Nova Scotia stopping and visiting many abandoned grave sites on the way. So much history in old grave sites.
Was surprised to see this video…..just happened across it in a random fashion. My maternal grandfather, Frank C Robinson of Moncton, New Brunswick was involved in the Shulie sawmill/logging enterprise…..how exactly, I don’t know…..may have been one of the owners or managers. Only remember my mother mentioning this place various times but because I was young, never paid much attention. Own a wonderful old colourized photo of Shulie depicting some logs, wharf, river and ship. It is hanging on my wall. Thanks for the interesting video!
Fascinating! You really are very good at these documentaries. You are polished but personable and it's clear you do a ton of research and prep work. Thank you for sharing your interests with us. 🙂
In Shediac New-Brunswick there is an island called Shediac Island and there was once a small town on this small island but now there is only ancient roads and foundation’s on the island. and there is a couple houses in shediac that were once on the island that got transported across the bay during the winter. Shediac is a beautiful place with a lot of maritime history so if you are ever in New-Brunswick make sure to visit Shediac Island!
Grindstone Island would be interesting too - down route 114 toward Alma. There’s a story that it’s still technically British land because of some odd contract loop-hole, and is now empty save the foundations of buildings.
It is canadian now @@kriswindley4579
Fascinating ! I live abiut 100 km from Shulie. My grandfather who had roots in Port Elgin New Brunswick spoke of this and many other lumber mills. His family had a large cabinet making business in Moncton NB. Thank you for such a great video.
I'm a born & bred bluenoser, and I'll admit I hadn't heard of this before. Thank you!
My family grew up a 25 minute car ride from there, lived in Springhill until I was 19, never knew there was a town there, never knew there was a mill, been over that bridge dozens of times easily.
I am so glad I stumbled upon your channel. Awesome stories from out past
Another beautiful video, Tom, and another reason why this is one of my favorite channels on UA-cam. Thank you for telling their story!
"young fellers" is my favourite old nova scotian man phrase. My grandfather is in his mid 80's and says it all the time :)
It’s also used in the south 😂
Wow- excellent job. I feel like I’ve been there and walked in their footsteps! Thank you!
My 5x great grandfather founded Oxford in Cumberland County in the 1700’s. As a Scotian, i appreciate the History. Subscribed 🤙
My grandmother is from River Hebert, my grandfather was from Amherst, so as a kid they’d bring us kids (from Moncton) to the Joggins fossil cliffs every summer. It was really neat to learn things about the area I didn’t know.
Also, you’re very talented in producing your videos. You use many excellent photos and media clips, and the then/now photo & map overlays are great. You’re also a good story teller. I hated history in school because it was mostly memorizing dates things happened, which was SO boring, but you make history interesting, thank you! I’ve definitely subbed!
I love the videos with heavy content about the people, and having Emma's grandfather share with us, made it truly amazing!
I was hoping those crosses were not just tossed as they were, those type of burial grounds are sacred. We have found a few in the forest north of where I reside in Saskatchewan, we give them the respect they deserve.
Your Nova Scotia videos always remind me of many happy childhood hours spent wandering the rocky shore and marshes and barrens of the rural South Shore with my Nana, looking for sea glass and artefacts, while she told me endless stories of houses that no longer stood and people that no longer lived there, in the dwindling fishing community where both sides of her family made a living some 300 years. In a place like Nova Scotia there's a wealth of stories hidden beneath what at first glance might look like pastures and mud and stands of trees seemingly untouched by anybody. I really enjoy listening to you respectfully, curiously dig them up like so much beach glass and bring some fragment of what once was back into the light.
Imagine going out to the middle of nowhere building a couple houses with your buds and cutting down trees and selling them. Good luck trying that today. Wish it was that easy now.
Yup I could build my own home, hunt and grow food. But now you'll go to jail. Or go into debt your whole life.
Imagine taking the land that was already inhabited by other people (first nations) as free estate, destroying the environment (gathering natural ressources and exporting it by the millions in another country to make a few bucks) and expecting it to last. Other people that were living WITH nature (nature as the environment, the wilderness, not as a deity), instead of AGAINST it. Well, when you live against nature, this is what happens.
Oh, wait. This might have a name. It is called colonialism...
This place (Shulie), should not be a memory to be fond of and to dream upon "a better time". It should be a reminder of what not to do.
I love that you compile all this information about these otherwise forgotten towns for everyone to learn about. It keeps their memory alive in a way.
3:23 I can't get enough of these old photos overlayed on new ones. I wish more people would copy you :)
Excellent mini-doc! Thanks for producing.
Thank you. What an awesome video. Very well done. My Dad is Fred's first cousin, so I recognize and am related to many of the ancestors you mentioned. What a lovely way to remember them. So many of the stories we hear over the years will be forgotten. Again, thank you.
Wow, this was great. Thank you and to your wife's grandfather.
Good job. Another Nova scotia 'ghost town' if you haven't done it already is The Electric City otherwise known as New France, Nova Scotia just outside of Weymouth.
It's still there but havely overgrown now owned by nsp
Hey if you need more ideas for vanished towns, try Dana and a few other towns in Massachusetts that were flooded to make the quabbin reservoir
Yes. I'm from Massachusetts and would love to know more about this than I do right now
21:59 It’s the White House closest to you that was moved there. You can see that the overhang and the gazebo were removed, but the three front windows line up perfectly. Also, you can see the low part at the back of the house is where the overhang/ porch roof was attached to. It even has the door in the same place. That is definitely the house.
Oh my goodness, that grave of Greer children it’s the saddest thing. Their poor parents 😳😭
It was very moving to see how upset you were that the crosses had been thrown off the top of the cliff- you’re a very good and kind person, with a deep respect for others. And your family is adorable!
I wonder if those crosses could have been temporary markers, no longer needed after stone monuments were carved? Just a thought, but it would fit with those such as the Greer cross where there is now a more permanent grave marker.
Love love love this presentation‼️. I also love anything about Nova Scotia and you did a beautiful narration young man. Thank you for making my day so enjoyable and I look forward to more of your wonderful work. ❣️‼️
Thank you for all your digging to produce this video. I enjoyed it very much and brings back a lot of memories.
I am so glad this showed up in my feed, so glad I saved it in my watch later list, and so glad I watched it tonight. Nice job!!
Thanks for doing this video btw. Im from NS if you ever need help. Many wonderful stories and mysteries and tales across the atlantic provinces. Not to mention the scenery
May I suggest you visit Westville, Pictou Co. and discover what it was like in it's heyday back when it had three coal mines. One of which, the Black diamond Mine supposedly left a locomotive and coal cars within the mine.
I am 68 and heard that story when I was around 12 in the 60s, when the last underground mine switched to deisel to haul coal cars to the siding not far from where I grew up.
wonderful project bringing life back to this vanished community
Geez, Cumberland County is right next to my city. Didn't expect UA-cam to deliver like this tonight
Hey, you seem to spend a lot of time around the maritimes. You should check out the new france settlement near weymouth ns in digby county! It would make for an interesting video. The town had a rudimentary railway system (with tracks made from logs if i recall correctly) and was referred to as the electric city as they had their own power grid (in the 1890s!)
I think the community and work force was mainly black, mi'kmaq and acadien, who were paid better wages than could be found in white english lumber camps.
Please consider it covering it! Thanks for the great content by the way.
I absolutely loved this! Thanks so much, and please keep up the wonderful work. Cheers!
Fantastic video! And the family connection is such a beautiful layer to the story really bringing the whole thing ‘home’.
Well done! A fascinating look at a piece of our past. I wonder how many other lost communities have a similar story.
If you're ever in California Tom, you should visit the "town" of Drawbridge, it's got quite an interesting history.
I’d like to hear the story of Westchester Mountain near Truro. My family were from their and many of my ancestors are buried in the Little Rushton cemetery. Very few people life on the mountain now. Beautiful and pristine Isaac lake.
I live in cape breton nova Scotia and there is an abandoned mining town about 40 minutes away. Broughton you can still see some of the foundations and road ways are still slightly visible old cars falling out of a hill side where they were buried all covered in forest but you can still find it
Your videos are an absolute service to humanity. Thank you so much for what you do! Generations from now families will still be discovering and appreciating your work.
I only recently subscribed to this channel after watching a documentary of the SS Atlantic not realising the Canadian orientation of its content. I'll cut to the chase, I was born in Halifax N.S. in 1958 to a French Canadian from Montréal and British mother from Portsmouth. I left Canada in 1961to return to the UK with my mother. I have never returned to Canada and honestly never felt the impulse to do so. The content I've already watched since subscribing has, for the first time in my life given me the emotional motivation to return and see the countryside and place on the planet that concern me.
this video is awesome i love this!! how he brings the life back everytime i go to an abandoned house or building i always stop and imagine the lives that once filled it and its just awesome i just found this channel and i love it its amazing thank you so much for everything you do
The personal connection makes it so much more interesting. Thank you!!
Great video! I'm a real history buff and really enjoy stories of how old communities came and went, especially Canadian towns. Well done.
I live just two hours east of Shulie. Great history and scenery! Thanks Tom!
I live in N.B i remember my mother telling me of a great grandfather, ( or what ever the relation) who used to do logging in N.S i tuely wonder if this was where he worked at one point in his, i live only a few hours from NS, i do hope to make the trip someday to this forgotten towb of shulie, thank you for sharing all this work, keep at er, would love to learn more about out countries history
Great job. Knowledgeable. Easy listening.
What a visually stunning and well researched video. There’s beauty and tragedy in Shulie’s story. I have subscribed and I’m looking forward to watching more of your content (I love history). Keep on trucking! 👋🏼
This so good. Thank you for putting this together.
REALLY ENJOYED VIDEO. I HAVE LIVED IN MAINE ALL MY LIFE SO I FOUND 5HIS VERY INTERESTING TOWATCH.
love the old photos. thanks
This was absolutely brilliant Tom. Thank you for this.
I live in Cumberland and have been through Shulie a couple times, but I didn’t know most of the stuff you had in this video. It was really neat to watch!
There’s also two other ghost towns in the area as well near advocate, Eatonville and New Yarmouth. Both are now mostly within Caep Chignecto park. Probably have similar stories to Shulie I imagine
Thank you for covering stories and history from Nova Scotia Canada ! Makes me happy to see this
I'm from Cumberland County. Thanks for this!
Very cool. My brother has a blueberry farm in Frazierville..not far from Advacate. Neat to learn a little history. There seems to be many small cemeteries in the area, often full of families.
This was a great video! One thing that struck me was the color of the water being the same as in Homer's writings; the "wine dark water". I have to wonder if that's because of the minerals in the ground around there or the type of algae that grows in the water. Thank you for keeping the memories of this town alive!
Love learning new stuff about my province, so much old stuff to discover and learn, really keeps you on your toes.
You never disappoint. Thank you for this great story.
What a beautiful video! I hope all the family involved are very proud of the work you do and how well you captured the history of the area.
Outstanding video sir! I found this a very somber video, I'm guessing because of your personal interest. It's always so neat to see the history of these lost towns. Like always, great job and thank you for taking us on the adventure.
I drove by here so many times but never knew the history thank you 😀
Very Nice Tribute to the people of this beautiful Canadian Town and History. I really enjoyed this video.