I could listen to Eleanor for HOURS! Young people in school should have professors teaching them with this passion, because this makes it so much more interesting! I’ve always loved history lessons, and love it even more now, following you and this incredible channel!!
Yeah, she made the whole show by herself because she’s allround. If she were she’ld be wonder woman. People write her text, she gets as muchtakes as she needs for every sentence. I’m not saying she’s not passionate just that your view of what a teacher should or even could be is a mirage.
Agreed! When you have a teacher or professor who is passionate about what they teach students that enthusiasm often rubs off onto the students which then inspires them to want to know more. A positive upward spiral of learning evolves. I find that British historians who also present documentaries are extremely enthusiastic about their academic area(s) of expertise. I haven’t always seen that kind of enthusiasm in American academia which is too bad.😩
I was a history major at Georgetown, did grad studies at the Pontifical Institute of Mediæval Studies in Toronto. This woman is gold, every history major should listen to her. Wonderful!
They will never survive the information age. Their story is being cut to pieces by biblical critical scholarship. Their guy looks a lot like Osiris, appolonius of Tyana, Romulus, the Ceasars, Hericlies, and Achilles to name only a few. The internet is their biggest foe yet - critical thinking.
I believe I know more about the Church history in Britian than ever before - this sharp lady managed to shove so much information into a relatively short time.
From a business perspective, the Catholic Church was one of the most successful enterprises the world has ever known. They created in effect the first multi-layer marketing (MLM) scheme and innovated periodically to add new products such as pardons & indulgences which increased overall revenue without adding too much additional overhead, thus improving overall profit margins. The Catholic Church today is a shadow of its former self and relies mainly on its franchises in South America for residual income. Perhaps in the years ahead a new CEO (pope) will re-invigorate The Catholic Church LLC and broaden its revenue opportunities so as to restore some portion of its former market share and thus improve its implicit share price.
Hopefully not. The Catholic Church needs to repudiate and return lands wrongly stolen by and profited from the Doctrine of Discovery then pay reparations
I recently read St. Bede's "Ecclesiastical History of England" 731 AD. He says extremely little about the priests. It is almost entirely devoted to the Bishops and Archbishops and the conversion of Britain to Catholicism. He does talk a fair amount of the various abbeys that were set up. A lot of miracles are mentioned, too.
Actually, monks, friars and nuns are part of the regular clergy, because they follow a rule. The parish priest and bishop are part of the secular clergy, because they are working in the ordinary world.
I have relatives who are nuns here and in Germany.My cousin Edgar was a German monsignor. My mom,s cousin Bernard Popp was auxiliary bishop of San Antonio. I imagine my ancestors in Germany and Hungary were , priests, nuns, friars and monks back in the middle ages too.
0:06: 🏰 Life in medieval Europe was diverse and heavily influenced by the Catholic Church. 4:24: 🏰 St Michael's at the north gate is the earliest church in Oxford and one of the most unique churches in England. 7:44: 📚 The video discusses the basic Christian doctrines, the hierarchy of the church, and the role of Cardinals in electing the Pope. 11:37: 📚 The video discusses the rise of mendicant orders in the medieval period and their role in preaching and practicing apostolic poverty. 15:21: 🏰 The video discusses the Gothic architecture and floor tiles in medieval Abbeys, as well as the rowdiness of university students who were also members of the clergy. 23:03: 🏰 Nobility can establish a community of monks and nuns on their land, creating new opportunities for resentment between peasants and clergy. Recap by Tammy AI
Friday night...ready to leave my work (and daily reality) behind and immerse myself in the story telling of Dr Eleanor Janega....she is so great--I really feel I am right there!
Medieval history is fascinating along with the history of the Church. Learning about Medieval times up to the Victorian/Edwardian era can help show much about our society and how we live today "the good and bad." Wish I had Dr Eleanor Janega as a history teacher................
And let’s not forget that because the Church had such wealth, it was also dangerous especially in the Early Middle Ages. Due to the wealth it accumulated, the Churches and monasteries were prime targets for raiders…and not just any old raider. The biggest threat clergy in the Early Middle Ages faced were the Vikings. The Vikings were infamously hostile towards Christianity, often sacking monasteries and killing priests all the time. However, these were usually done for financial reasons. Monasteries were full of riches and the monks had no weapons. In essence, they were just banks guarded by unarmed men in robes. And it’s not like this was restricted only to the Norsemen, Anglo-Saxon kings also were known to raid monasteries when the royal treasury was tight.
@@iippo06 OH no! The poor rich! What are they going to do to survive?!? You better give them more money so you get to heaven...."mendicant literately means 'beggar'". Get a job grifters
@@lmichalski1037 I was referring to the vikings. You're the one praying for equality that will never come. Odds are that you're descended from those monks.
@@lmichalski1037 At their foundation the Franciscans administered to the poor and all other outcastes in society including people with leprosy. That was their work. They didn't own possessions because the poor didn't. They shared the food they had with the poor and they lived in extremely poor conditions. They walked barefoot. The founder, Francis of Assisi, probably died from leprosy since he tended the sick for years of his life. He was born into a wealthy merchant class family and gave all is possessions to the poor. What this video misrepresents is this aspect, choosing rather to focus on an obscure point. Although the tension the caused for preaching about apostolic poverty and helping the poor is a salient point. The Franciscans' preferred form of preaching was their ministry. It was the other mendicant order, the Dominicans that focused on traditional preaching. Choosing to focus on preaching as entertainment as also distorting the impact the Dominicans had as well as the Franciscans. Not that is should matter, but I'm an atheist. What should matter are facts. Also projecting your sensibility into the past without understanding the context, which is always complex in culture and societies especially over hundreds of years, is injudicious.
@@Rabbithole8Excellent point. I know that Francis was viewed with a great deal of suspicion by the church hierarchy when he was alive. Presumably his actions and priorities were viewed as an implicit criticism of the manner that the church operated at the time. I believe that the church co-opted Franciscan tradition after he died, partly due to his popularity among the poor. I don't know the details but I would love to hear anything you can tell me about it. You seem pretty knowledgeable
On the topic I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's Medieval Christianity videos series. He's a PhD in Medieval history and the only person to my knowledge that teaches actually and historically traditional Catholic history on UA-cam
As John Cleese says to some Holy Joe in a 70’s discussion on the Life Of Brian “a few centuries ago I would have been burned at the stake for this, so you have to say we have made progress”.
I Guess John Cleese has been doing a lot of self corrections nowadays. His ignorant take regarding the Church is even more ridiculous today, with the woke morons ando their queer Inquisition.
love the hands on approch... this is more of a educational video than a documentary.... i would advise you to do more of this kind of video on ALL you channels... enable people to think by them selves.
It got there when christianity went from being an enemy of the empire in the first couple centuries to THE State religion when Constantine "converted."
The son of a carpenter was a king. Prince only means first citizen. It’s not hard at all, when Christianity was legalized the early Christians could own public spaces of worship. The very first churches were gymnasiums. After it was legalized and became the religion of the empire etc, gyms where naked dudes would hang up and hook up was obviously out of fashion, Judeo-Christian morality kicked in, and the gyms and pagan temples became consecrated as churches, which means congregations. As you saw in the video the land that the church controlled, then as now, was usually gifted to the church. Nobles like the countess that Dr Janega was talking about, built the convent in her land, and made it fancy for herself, and gifted the land to the Church, the Church in turn buried her in the same convent she built, in a prominent and fancy position with her feet facing east, and all the religious people in there spent their time saying mass and praying, for her soul. That was the usual exchange. But since that was popular, then all the nobles were doing it, and this meant they left land to the Church, and someone had to administer all this land, and that is where you have the parish priests, and then the bishops, who boss over the priests, and they have in turn above themselves the archbishops, who is just a bishop that bosses over a bunch of other bishops. The bishops where usually the most important person in the diocese, basically the territory the bishop controls, unless they had an archbishop over them. And that’s how this man got land and power, and was called a prince, first citizen, of the church.
This religion had an incredibly successful business model. It sold you an incredible afterlife and had a pretty extensive manual for daily life and it was open to everyone. The disciples of the son of the carpenter are incredibly active in spreading their teachings, rapidly building faithful congregations that promise a better life in a world where life is short, full of hard work and most citizens are only a little bit better off than slaves. That appeal snowballs, going from a weird Jewish sect to being a Roman Empire-wide underground phenomenon to becoming a major religious, social and political force, which the Emperors could no longer ignore or get rid of. Once they have a foot in the door they soon push out all other religions and establish a state religion which runs parallel to the worldly power and has great influence over it. When Rome falls and is no longer the center of power in Western Europe, the pope latches onto anyone with sufficient power to protect the church, arriving at the most successful of them all, Charlemagne, who is crowned Emperor in 800. Essentially the church putting itself above the Emperor and being the only institution that can confirm this title. The church is well organized, has a sophisticated administration and therefore it remains one of the few literate elements in society, so they end up controlling education. They also have a duty to work and labour, leading to monasteries that become prosperous and accumulate wealth and knowledge. In some cases religious leaders gain so much power that they are both religious and worldly leaders, like like the Prince Bishoprics of Liege, Cologne, Trier, Bremen, Geneva etc. Or the Late medieval/Renaissance popes owning the papal states and acting like proper worldly aristocracy with armies etc. All this power and wealth leads to severe criticism from people who no longer see the link between church origins, scripture and their interpretation so that a scission happens leading to centuries or religious conflict.
During the devastating flooding in Houston a few years ago, Osteen refused to open the doors of his megachurch until public pressure forced him to. A true man of god…
Such an important part of history is the "church" and how it "was" in/during and still to this day, is a part of life. Even if you don't partake in it directly...it's persuasion on it's population of those involved with it one way or another. This makes me understand the change in the changing of the "church" during King Henry's time plus....
@@deborahproctor9538 ordination always required ecclesiastical education. They were expected to know and read in both their vernacular and Latin. Now to throw you a bone, it would have been a different story for friars.
Further, divorces were not permitted in the Church of England after Henry broke with Rome. Which is why Edward VIII (as head of the CofE) had to abdicate to marry the divorcée Wallis Simpson. Henry VIII never divorced any of his wives -- those were all annulments (or beheadings). The whole 'divorce' thing is Roman Catholic propaganda. Kind of disappointing from a "history" channel.
@@otsoko66 what you say could be argued as correct at least from the Kings perspective , but you must look at the Catholic Church position regarding annulments. Firstly, annulments were taken very seriously by the Church. The fact they granted his first was possible ,but allowing multiple annulments would be impossible. What was the result? Confiscation of Church property and expulsion of the Clergy, very profitable for the King I might add. Then what? He declares himself as protector of the faith, very ironic don’t you think ?
The Catholic church said the mass in Latin until the 1960’s. I was kinda sorry to see it go - all the pomp and circumstance. I loved the High Mass, the singing in Latin. It was reminiscent of the chants, sung from neumes. Love the series btw. ❤✌️
Supposedly Pope Francis is approving a return to the Latin Mass, if churches choose to use it. I grew up in Catholic schools in the 50’s and early 60’s. I remember Vat 2.
I just finished reading "Jude, the Obscure" by Thomas Hardy, as an adult. My advanced English teacher, Mr. Keenan at Omaha Central High School, taught Thomas Hardy but he left out "Jude, the Obscure". I makes me ponder.
I am glad someone else thinks Dr. Eleanor is a hottie! Would love to see her in sheer black thigh high stockings. Meant as an extreme compliment. She is an excellent historian and teaches in simple English.
Ditto to every comment about how wonderful Dr Janega is and how amazing the content is, but I find the oscillation between having her standing talking directly to camera and then sitting seemingly talking to some unseen interviewer a bit jarring. If there is no contextual reason to do so, why do it?
I am slowly parsing through all of Dr Janega’s content on this channel. I adore her presentation. Also she has lovely taste in fashion, which is of no consequence and just my opinion, but I felt like giving the compliment anyway. 😊
Haven't you got the 'regular' distinction the wrong way round? A member of the regular clergy was (I thought) the members of the orders, Benedictine and so on, because they live according to a rule, 'regulus' in Latin. The parish clergy and bishops were called 'secular' clergy.
To judge from the evidence of ecclesiastical visitations, most parish priests of the C13th were semi-literate drunks who lived in a hovel with their mistress and several illegitimate children. They could barely read English, let alone Latin, and had only a rudimentary understanding of their duties. And then, of course, there was pluralism.... It is commonly assumed that medieval folk were all devout Christians. Actually quite a few of them hadn't the slightest idea what Christianity was.
Very good telling, from this periode of Middelage and the leadership of Churches. There is no defrind from England and Denmark, when we talk about the Churches and there function at the people...
I’ve always found women with short hair rather attractive. The same goes for women who are strong-willed and confident. As well as women who are highly intelligent. In other words, my goodness Dr. Janega is an attractive woman.
The first scientists were monks (Roger Bacon and his teacher were Fransican monks), public education (universities were religious institutions, the first public schools were in abbeys - for example Sankt Gallen) just like hospitals. Giving the right to agree to marriage was spread by the Catholic faith. Should I assume you want to live without science, healthcare and human rights? That stupid video where a guy throws scientific books through a time portal and includes a Bible which causes all scientific advantages to disappear is a gross insult to historical studies.
@@robertlukacs4954 Yes, Iran is the best place to live for sure.
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At 11:45, Dr. Janega states that the Mendicant movement started with St. Francis. While she is technically correct, the Trinitarians were the first order to break from the monastic model of religious life. The Trinitarians were founded in 1198 by St. John de Matha to ransom Christian captives enslaved for their faith. St. John de Matha, with the approval of Pope Innocent III, founded an order of men dedicated to prayer and redemptive missions to return enslaved men to their families. Today, the Trinitarians continue this work throughout the world and have a particular mission to serve the persecuted church in countries in which the practice of the Christian faith is illegal.
23:40 So, basically, Judas Iscariot theology "Then one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, he that was about to betray him, said: Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? Now he said this, not because he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and having the purse, carried the things that were put therein." John 12, 4-6
Strange interpretation of Wycliffe, and what became Lollardism in that it fails to mention it being a proto Lutheran Idea of Making the word of God accessible to the masses, and railing against the essentially corporate power of the established church ? It remains the fact that Wycliffe is remembered primarily for translating the bible into the English language, something that in those pre printing press days was fairly easily suppressed by what was essentially a supranational church that conducted the business of salvation largely in a language inaccessible to the bulk of the population. As for Henry's dissolution of that supranational power, whilst he did it entirely for dynastic reasons, the result was an enrichment of what Schama referred to as 'Those middling folk' ? It would not be too much of a stretch to suggest that the dissolution of church power was, or proved in its unintended consequence way, to be a first step upon the road to what eventually became capitalism as we know it today ? Whilst Eleanor is a powerful presentor that is capable of holding rapt attention, there's a distinct feeling that it cant be long before the famous poster of friend Lenin sweeping a globe comes into play. :)
9:14 Was just checking lifespans of cardinals of San Giorgio in Velabro - one of them was _archdeacon_ (not archbishop) in Canterbury. _"[Prospero] Colonna was also the Archdeacon of Canterbury from June 1424 to December 1434, appointed by Martin V, his uncle.[1][2] Colonna claimed several ecclesiastical revenue streams in England, including the prebend of Laughton, York, worth an estimated £33 per annum, a matter of dispute between Colonna and Thomas Chapman, as well as Chapman's successor John Lax.[3] Colonna acquired other English benefices at a time when the right of the pope to appoint English bishops was a matter of controversy.[4]"_ Imagine an Italian archdeacon in an English cathedral _after_ 17 November 1558!
Jusy a correction: the benedectine monks may have come up with idea social seclusion in english medieval context, but the oravtice was actuslly inteoduced first in egypt around 300 AD by coptic monks.
I was disappointed that young girls were not given education by the church. I wonder if the nuns were educated, they often taught in schools in the modern period. Could you elaborate on the relationship between the church and women in the medieval period ?
Another good video. Does anybody know what these terms are such as Living Rights or Living Benefits, coming from an early 18th century Will. Assuming that it's something that would be a net positive and could "Living Rights" be somehow obtained by someone owning land which included a Parish Church within it's boundaries. Would be interesting if anyone had insights on this sort of earlier legal terminology found in a will. I've tried doing research and have for the most part come up empty. Anyways, just throwing this out there in case someone had some knowledge on the subject and since there is a possible connections with a parish church.
Eleanor seems to have missed the existence of the Orthodox Christians. Yes, Eastern Europe also existed during the medieval period but they were definitely not part of the Catholic Church. Indeed, late antiquity was a very interesting period.
I could listen to Eleanor for HOURS! Young people in school should have professors teaching them with this passion, because this makes it so much more interesting! I’ve always loved history lessons, and love it even more now, following you and this incredible channel!!
100%
Dr Eleanor* put some respect on her title
You should try her podcast we are not so different.
Yeah, she made the whole show by herself because she’s allround. If she were she’ld be wonder woman. People write her text, she gets as muchtakes as she needs for every sentence. I’m not saying she’s not passionate just that your view of what a teacher should or even could be is a mirage.
Agreed! When you have a teacher or professor who is passionate about what they teach students that enthusiasm often rubs off onto the students which then inspires them to want to know more. A positive upward spiral of learning evolves. I find that British historians who also present documentaries are extremely enthusiastic about their academic area(s) of expertise. I haven’t always seen that kind of enthusiasm in American academia which is too bad.😩
Dr. Janega is an incredibly good lecturer. More material from her would be a good idea.
She’s smoking hot. 😏
hear hear
I was just thinking the same thing - I’m not religious at all and yet this presenter has me fascinated!
Get a room
I was a history major at Georgetown, did grad studies at the Pontifical Institute of Mediæval Studies in Toronto. This woman is gold, every history major should listen to her. Wonderful!
They will never survive the information age. Their story is being cut to pieces by biblical critical scholarship. Their guy looks a lot like Osiris, appolonius of Tyana, Romulus, the Ceasars, Hericlies, and Achilles to name only a few. The internet is their biggest foe yet - critical thinking.
I love that she explains things to us Americans that don’t have a living experience in Europe but wish to understand it so much better.
For those who have enjoyed dr Janega's youtube vids, she also cohosts a podcast called "we're not so different" which is also excellent
You guys are on fire! This medieval series is pure gold!
Like Guy Fawkes, the victor writes history
And the alchemist fakes the gold...
Good series tho
Fascinating!
I believe I know more about the Church history in Britian than ever before - this sharp lady managed to shove so much information into a relatively short time.
From a business perspective, the Catholic Church was one of the most successful enterprises the world has ever known. They created in effect the first multi-layer marketing (MLM) scheme and innovated periodically to add new products such as pardons & indulgences which increased overall revenue without adding too much additional overhead, thus improving overall profit margins. The Catholic Church today is a shadow of its former self and relies mainly on its franchises in South America for residual income. Perhaps in the years ahead a new CEO (pope) will re-invigorate The Catholic Church LLC and broaden its revenue opportunities so as to restore some portion of its former market share and thus improve its implicit share price.
Hopefully not. The Catholic Church needs to repudiate and return lands wrongly stolen by and profited from the Doctrine of Discovery then pay reparations
The Catholic Church is not enterprise but a mandate from heaven and she is without error.
There was no catholic church until constantine
@@deborahproctor9538 who told you that lie???
@@jeffreyrodrigoecheverria2613 Then why is it that they keep allowing pedophiles to become priests?
I recently read St. Bede's "Ecclesiastical History of England" 731 AD. He says extremely little about the priests. It is almost entirely devoted to the Bishops and Archbishops and the conversion of Britain to Catholicism. He does talk a fair amount of the various abbeys that were set up. A lot of miracles are mentioned, too.
Oh wow I've always wanted to read Bede. Where did you get a copy of the manuscript from?
Actually, monks, friars and nuns are part of the regular clergy, because they follow a rule. The parish priest and bishop are part of the secular clergy, because they are working in the ordinary world.
I have relatives who are nuns here and in Germany.My cousin Edgar was a German monsignor. My mom,s cousin Bernard Popp was auxiliary bishop of San Antonio. I imagine my ancestors in Germany and Hungary were , priests, nuns, friars and monks back in the middle ages too.
0:06: 🏰 Life in medieval Europe was diverse and heavily influenced by the Catholic Church.
4:24: 🏰 St Michael's at the north gate is the earliest church in Oxford and one of the most unique churches in England.
7:44: 📚 The video discusses the basic Christian doctrines, the hierarchy of the church, and the role of Cardinals in electing the Pope.
11:37: 📚 The video discusses the rise of mendicant orders in the medieval period and their role in preaching and practicing apostolic poverty.
15:21: 🏰 The video discusses the Gothic architecture and floor tiles in medieval Abbeys, as well as the rowdiness of university students who were also members of the clergy.
23:03: 🏰 Nobility can establish a community of monks and nuns on their land, creating new opportunities for resentment between peasants and clergy.
Recap by Tammy AI
the real hero right here
I have come to really love all of the Eleanor Janega videos 😁
Friday night...ready to leave my work (and daily reality) behind and immerse myself in the story telling of Dr Eleanor Janega....she is so great--I really feel I am right there!
This is great! I was particularly taken with the 'Fingers Arch Period Guide'.. Thanks Dr Janega and team! ⭐👍
Excellent series! Love it and love learning about medieval history!
More to come!
Medieval history is fascinating along with the history of the Church. Learning about Medieval times up to the Victorian/Edwardian era can help show much about our society and how we live today "the good and bad." Wish I had Dr Eleanor Janega as a history teacher................
Dr Janega is my favorite. She could do a video about dirt and I'd watch it ❤
Aw man I love Dr Eleanor. Instant click and enjoy. She's just great.
this is a great video, never heard the medieval church hierarchy explained so thoroughly 👍
Why do I love this lecturer so much? I’ve watched like 10 of her videos today
And let’s not forget that because the Church had such wealth, it was also dangerous especially in the Early Middle Ages. Due to the wealth it accumulated, the Churches and monasteries were prime targets for raiders…and not just any old raider.
The biggest threat clergy in the Early Middle Ages faced were the Vikings. The Vikings were infamously hostile towards Christianity, often sacking monasteries and killing priests all the time. However, these were usually done for financial reasons. Monasteries were full of riches and the monks had no weapons. In essence, they were just banks guarded by unarmed men in robes. And it’s not like this was restricted only to the Norsemen, Anglo-Saxon kings also were known to raid monasteries when the royal treasury was tight.
gods bless them.
@@iippo06 OH no! The poor rich! What are they going to do to survive?!? You better give them more money so you get to heaven...."mendicant literately means 'beggar'". Get a job grifters
@@lmichalski1037 I was referring to the vikings. You're the one praying for equality that will never come. Odds are that you're descended from those monks.
@@lmichalski1037 At their foundation the Franciscans administered to the poor and all other outcastes in society including people with leprosy. That was their work. They didn't own possessions because the poor didn't. They shared the food they had with the poor and they lived in extremely poor conditions. They walked barefoot. The founder, Francis of Assisi, probably died from leprosy since he tended the sick for years of his life. He was born into a wealthy merchant class family and gave all is possessions to the poor. What this video misrepresents is this aspect, choosing rather to focus on an obscure point. Although the tension the caused for preaching about apostolic poverty and helping the poor is a salient point. The Franciscans' preferred form of preaching was their ministry. It was the other mendicant order, the Dominicans that focused on traditional preaching. Choosing to focus on preaching as entertainment as also distorting the impact the Dominicans had as well as the Franciscans. Not that is should matter, but I'm an atheist. What should matter are facts. Also projecting your sensibility into the past without understanding the context, which is always complex in culture and societies especially over hundreds of years, is injudicious.
@@Rabbithole8Excellent point. I know that Francis was viewed with a great deal of suspicion by the church hierarchy when he was alive. Presumably his actions and priorities were viewed as an implicit criticism of the manner that the church operated at the time. I believe that the church co-opted Franciscan tradition after he died, partly due to his popularity among the poor. I don't know the details but I would love to hear anything you can tell me about it. You seem pretty knowledgeable
On the topic I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's Medieval Christianity videos series. He's a PhD in Medieval history and the only person to my knowledge that teaches actually and historically traditional Catholic history on UA-cam
I think the Real Crusade series is quite good as well. Thx for the recommendation.
Exactly
As John Cleese says to some Holy Joe in a 70’s discussion on the Life Of Brian “a few centuries ago I would have been burned at the stake for this, so you have to say we have made progress”.
I Guess John Cleese has been doing a lot of self corrections nowadays.
His ignorant take regarding the Church is even more ridiculous today, with the woke morons ando their queer Inquisition.
Another religion is taking over Britain now, and it's not very progressive.
This one was very nicely put together. I love learning about how our world was shaped.
So happy to have a new Eleanor video!
love the hands on approch... this is more of a educational video than a documentary.... i would advise you to do more of this kind of video on ALL you channels... enable people to think by them selves.
Dr Eleanor Janega is brilliant
Love everything Eleanor does. ❤
Hard to see how they got from the son of a carpenter to princes of the church.
Yes - that’s a very interesting conundrum.
It got there when christianity went from being an enemy of the empire in the first couple centuries to THE State religion when Constantine "converted."
The son of a carpenter was a king. Prince only means first citizen.
It’s not hard at all, when Christianity was legalized the early Christians could own public spaces of worship. The very first churches were gymnasiums. After it was legalized and became the religion of the empire etc, gyms where naked dudes would hang up and hook up was obviously out of fashion, Judeo-Christian morality kicked in, and the gyms and pagan temples became consecrated as churches, which means congregations.
As you saw in the video the land that the church controlled, then as now, was usually gifted to the church. Nobles like the countess that Dr Janega was talking about, built the convent in her land, and made it fancy for herself, and gifted the land to the Church, the Church in turn buried her in the same convent she built, in a prominent and fancy position with her feet facing east, and all the religious people in there spent their time saying mass and praying, for her soul. That was the usual exchange. But since that was popular, then all the nobles were doing it, and this meant they left land to the Church, and someone had to administer all this land, and that is where you have the parish priests, and then the bishops, who boss over the priests, and they have in turn above themselves the archbishops, who is just a bishop that bosses over a bunch of other bishops. The bishops where usually the most important person in the diocese, basically the territory the bishop controls, unless they had an archbishop over them. And that’s how this man got land and power, and was called a prince, first citizen, of the church.
This religion had an incredibly successful business model. It sold you an incredible afterlife and had a pretty extensive manual for daily life and it was open to everyone.
The disciples of the son of the carpenter are incredibly active in spreading their teachings, rapidly building faithful congregations that promise a better life in a world where life is short, full of hard work and most citizens are only a little bit better off than slaves.
That appeal snowballs, going from a weird Jewish sect to being a Roman Empire-wide underground phenomenon to becoming a major religious, social and political force, which the Emperors could no longer ignore or get rid of.
Once they have a foot in the door they soon push out all other religions and establish a state religion which runs parallel to the worldly power and has great influence over it.
When Rome falls and is no longer the center of power in Western Europe, the pope latches onto anyone with sufficient power to protect the church, arriving at the most successful of them all, Charlemagne, who is crowned Emperor in 800. Essentially the church putting itself above the Emperor and being the only institution that can confirm this title.
The church is well organized, has a sophisticated administration and therefore it remains one of the few literate elements in society, so they end up controlling education. They also have a duty to work and labour, leading to monasteries that become prosperous and accumulate wealth and knowledge.
In some cases religious leaders gain so much power that they are both religious and worldly leaders, like like the Prince Bishoprics of Liege, Cologne, Trier, Bremen, Geneva etc. Or the Late medieval/Renaissance popes owning the papal states and acting like proper worldly aristocracy with armies etc.
All this power and wealth leads to severe criticism from people who no longer see the link between church origins, scripture and their interpretation so that a scission happens leading to centuries or religious conflict.
@@rotwang2000 - thank you for the mini history lesson. Impressive. 👍
Dr. Eleanor - history wizard. What a dynamic story teller.
history whisperer
MORE DR JANEGA, PLEASE AND THANK YOU
Eleanor is great! Very informative and concise. She relies the information in a natural and easy to understand way. More from her please!! ❤
Yay another one with dr. Janega
Fantastic series. Lovely that Medieval Norwich received a mention. About time!
I wonder what John Wycliffe would have thought of Joel Osteen....
During the devastating flooding in Houston a few years ago, Osteen refused to open the doors of his megachurch until public pressure forced him to. A true man of god…
Wycliffe would be appalled at Olsteens flippant attitude about sin.
Don’t get me started on Joel Olsteen! Had the unpleasant occasion to have him and his wife come to where I worked for a book signing.
Really enjoying this series as a whole, and Eleanor's way of explaining the complexities of this period in history, is so easy to understand.
Dr Janega is great!!! Thanks for this!
I always love listening to Eleanor! Thank you so much!
Love how she speaks loud enough and clearly.
Such an important part of history is the "church" and how it "was" in/during and still to this day, is a part of life. Even if you don't partake in it directly...it's persuasion on it's population of those involved with it one way or another. This makes me understand the change in the changing of the "church" during King Henry's time plus....
Eleanor is so well read when it comes to all matters pertaining to the Medieval period. 🇬🇧
The power was in knowledge. Monks maintained libraries of records.
Of land titles maybe, but definitely not of individual ppl. Individualism the way we have it today is an invention of the Enlightenment.
No it wasn't. Most Parrish priests were illiterate
@@deborahproctor9538 even though that’s not true, there is a difference between a monk studying in a monetary and a parish priest.
@@FimiliarGalaxy9 it is true
@@deborahproctor9538 ordination always required ecclesiastical education. They were expected to know and read in both their vernacular and Latin. Now to throw you a bone, it would have been a different story for friars.
At the risk of being pedantic, Henry VIII did not want a DIVORCE, but an ANNULMENT. He knew that the pope never allowed divorces.
Further, divorces were not permitted in the Church of England after Henry broke with Rome. Which is why Edward VIII (as head of the CofE) had to abdicate to marry the divorcée Wallis Simpson. Henry VIII never divorced any of his wives -- those were all annulments (or beheadings). The whole 'divorce' thing is Roman Catholic propaganda. Kind of disappointing from a "history" channel.
Actually Henry committed judicial murders. He was the Don Corleone of his day with a veneer of legality.
Unfortunately for Henry VII, he had gotten a papal dispensation to marry his brother’s widow.
@@nbenefiel He was still a disgusting pig.
@@otsoko66 what you say could be argued as correct at least from the Kings perspective , but you must look at the Catholic Church position regarding annulments. Firstly, annulments were taken very seriously by the Church. The fact they granted his first was possible ,but allowing multiple annulments would be impossible. What was the result? Confiscation of Church property and expulsion of the Clergy, very profitable for the King I might add. Then what? He declares himself as protector of the faith, very ironic don’t you think ?
A new Eleanor Janega video. So very excited
"Enjoying a BEAUTIFUL spring day..."
*holds an umbrella so she doesn't get rained on by the gloomy clouds*
Yup, sounds like London.
Magnificent, I agree with the lady just below me “I could listen to Eleanor for hours as well”.
So very well done. Excellent 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you! Cheers!
i love eleanor so much!!
The video game Pentiment is actually a great resource for learning more about this
The Catholic church said the mass in Latin until the 1960’s. I was kinda sorry to see it go - all the pomp and circumstance. I loved the High Mass, the singing in Latin. It was reminiscent of the chants, sung from neumes. Love the series btw. ❤✌️
latin hasn't completely gone 🙂
You can still find Latin high mass in a few places
Supposedly Pope Francis is approving a return to the Latin Mass, if churches choose to use it. I grew up in Catholic schools in the 50’s and early 60’s. I remember Vat 2.
Thank God for anne boleyn
I believe Wycliffe's first name was John, not Thomas.
It was.
Yes, Wycliffe’s name was indeed John, but the guy looked more like a Thomas.
And then along came Martin Luther, Thank God
And then Martin Luther got served by John Calvin.
I just finished reading "Jude, the Obscure" by Thomas Hardy, as an adult. My advanced English teacher, Mr. Keenan at Omaha Central High School, taught Thomas Hardy but he left out "Jude, the Obscure". I makes me ponder.
Oh Eleanor, beautiful Eleanor 😍
I am glad someone else thinks Dr. Eleanor is a hottie! Would love to see her in sheer black thigh high stockings. Meant as an extreme compliment. She is an excellent historian and teaches in simple English.
Ditto to every comment about how wonderful Dr Janega is and how amazing the content is, but I find the oscillation between having her standing talking directly to camera and then sitting seemingly talking to some unseen interviewer a bit jarring. If there is no contextual reason to do so, why do it?
Love the way you keep it simple.
I am slowly parsing through all of Dr Janega’s content on this channel. I adore her presentation. Also she has lovely taste in fashion, which is of no consequence and just my opinion, but I felt like giving the compliment anyway. 😊
0:54 "Those who prayed", or "Those who preyed"? Either works.
Haven't you got the 'regular' distinction the wrong way round? A member of the regular clergy was (I thought) the members of the orders, Benedictine and so on, because they live according to a rule, 'regulus' in Latin. The parish clergy and bishops were called 'secular' clergy.
She is the best host 😊
i learn more from her in 26 minutes, then with my history teacher in an hour. it is both amazing and concerning lol
Is there a playlist with these videos? I am having trouble finding it. If anyone has found it, pls help dear old me. Thanks!
This was absolutely wonderful!
To judge from the evidence of ecclesiastical visitations, most parish priests of the C13th were semi-literate drunks who lived in a hovel with their mistress and several illegitimate children. They could barely read English, let alone Latin, and had only a rudimentary understanding of their duties. And then, of course, there was pluralism....
It is commonly assumed that medieval folk were all devout Christians. Actually quite a few of them hadn't the slightest idea what Christianity was.
Weakness, poverty & impotence?
Always love hearing from Dr. Janega, and this brought up a couple of points about the medieval church that I hadn't considered before.
Parishes are also important as they keep records. Without these records many wouldn't be able to do genealogy
True but those records were usually a thing of later centuries. It coincides with the advent of individualism in the Enlightenment era.
They started keeping records mid 1500s.
Keep this Dr Janega aeound......
I love her she's so so good!!!
Very good telling, from this periode of Middelage and the leadership of Churches.
There is no defrind from England and Denmark, when we talk about the Churches and there function at the people...
The 12th century sounds alot like 1980s catholic school.
Honestly, catholic school 1995-2007 wasn't much different
In what way?
I’ve always found women with short hair rather attractive. The same goes for women who are strong-willed and confident. As well as women who are highly intelligent. In other words, my goodness Dr. Janega is an attractive woman.
great work....very much appreciated
10:20 she meant the opposite, I suppose. Regular clergy IS monks and nuns, whereas secular clergy is non-regular.
Excellent (from a former Anglican)
A former member, have you lost your faith?
Even today they have the power to commit crimes against children with impunity.
I am curious. 700 years of inquisition lets go
Could you talk about the Charterhouse in London?
All the Dr Janega
Also, a cathedral is a church, containing the diocesan "seat" of the Bishop literally a chair called a Cathedra.
Seeing all this, I am so glad to be able live without religious nonsense.
Amen!!
Separation of church and state is the worst thing to ever happen.
The first scientists were monks (Roger Bacon and his teacher were Fransican monks), public education (universities were religious institutions, the first public schools were in abbeys - for example Sankt Gallen) just like hospitals. Giving the right to agree to marriage was spread by the Catholic faith. Should I assume you want to live without science, healthcare and human rights? That stupid video where a guy throws scientific books through a time portal and includes a Bible which causes all scientific advantages to disappear is a gross insult to historical studies.
@chrismath149 This guy doesn't care, he just wants to watch his porn.
@@robertlukacs4954 Yes, Iran is the best place to live for sure.
At 11:45, Dr. Janega states that the Mendicant movement started with St. Francis. While she is technically correct, the Trinitarians were the first order to break from the monastic model of religious life. The Trinitarians were founded in 1198 by St. John de Matha to ransom Christian captives enslaved for their faith. St. John de Matha, with the approval of Pope Innocent III, founded an order of men dedicated to prayer and redemptive missions to return enslaved men to their families. Today, the Trinitarians continue this work throughout the world and have a particular mission to serve the persecuted church in countries in which the practice of the Christian faith is illegal.
9:50 Ironic that the first English Pope Hadrian IV was born a peasant!
Excellent
The church became the place where the wealthy and royal put their 3rd or gentle son.
23:40 So, basically, Judas Iscariot theology "Then one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, he that was about to betray him, said: Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
Now he said this, not because he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and having the purse, carried the things that were put therein." John 12, 4-6
Strange interpretation of Wycliffe, and what became Lollardism in that it fails to mention it being a proto Lutheran Idea of Making the word of God accessible to the masses, and railing against the essentially corporate power of the established church ? It remains the fact that Wycliffe is remembered primarily for translating the bible into the English language, something that in those pre printing press days was fairly easily suppressed by what was essentially a supranational church that conducted the business of salvation largely in a language inaccessible to the bulk of the population. As for Henry's dissolution of that supranational power, whilst he did it entirely for dynastic reasons, the result was an enrichment of what Schama referred to as 'Those middling folk' ? It would not be too much of a stretch to suggest that the dissolution of church power was, or proved in its unintended consequence way, to be a first step upon the road to what eventually became capitalism as we know it today ?
Whilst Eleanor is a powerful presentor that is capable of holding rapt attention, there's a distinct feeling that it cant be long before the famous poster of friend Lenin sweeping a globe comes into play. :)
9:14 Was just checking lifespans of cardinals of San Giorgio in Velabro - one of them was _archdeacon_ (not archbishop) in Canterbury.
_"[Prospero] Colonna was also the Archdeacon of Canterbury from June 1424 to December 1434, appointed by Martin V, his uncle.[1][2] Colonna claimed several ecclesiastical revenue streams in England, including the prebend of Laughton, York, worth an estimated £33 per annum, a matter of dispute between Colonna and Thomas Chapman, as well as Chapman's successor John Lax.[3] Colonna acquired other English benefices at a time when the right of the pope to appoint English bishops was a matter of controversy.[4]"_
Imagine an Italian archdeacon in an English cathedral _after_ 17 November 1558!
Great video
Check out the history of the Poor Clare’s who were located in the Throggs Neck section of the Bronx until the 1980’s.
Jusy a correction: the benedectine monks may have come up with idea social seclusion in english medieval context, but the oravtice was actuslly inteoduced first in egypt around 300 AD by coptic monks.
I was disappointed that young girls were not given education by the church. I wonder if the nuns were educated, they often taught in schools in the modern period. Could you elaborate on the relationship between the church and women in the medieval period ?
The church fed the poor, provided lodging for pilgrims, provided hospitals, and educated the children ( mainly boys).
Thank all the gods the Catholic church power and influence has been waning in the west for along time now.
How much? - Too much...
Another good video. Does anybody know what these terms are such as Living Rights or Living Benefits, coming from an early 18th century Will. Assuming that it's something that would be a net positive and could "Living Rights" be somehow obtained by someone owning land which included a Parish Church within it's boundaries. Would be interesting if anyone had insights on this sort of earlier legal terminology found in a will.
I've tried doing research and have for the most part come up empty.
Anyways, just throwing this out there in case someone had some knowledge on the subject and since there is a possible connections with a parish church.
This is quite fascinating when looking at the break from the Catholic Church in 1533
All this effort, and yet....MATTHEW 7 : 23 sums it up nicely.
Religion is a very good example for a number of sociological theories:) On power, power concentration, the iron law of oligarchy etc etc
100% of the power
Eleanor seems to have missed the existence of the Orthodox Christians. Yes, Eastern Europe also existed during the medieval period but they were definitely not part of the Catholic Church. Indeed, late antiquity was a very interesting period.
I find it interesting that the Gospel started out Eccelsia and ended up Church and power.