The way I see it if you want the best BMW out the box go for the M. I do recommend going 335i/435i mainly because the aftermarket support will make you as fast or faster than an M3-M4. If your really serious about performance go M like you said.
I thought the 435i was too underwhelming...or rather...too subtle for a sports car. Its superbly comfortable and smooth, but the way the engine/trans delivers the power is so understated that you don't even realize or feel how fast you're going, then when you look down at your speedo and you're like WOAH. OK. Wow...its just not an event. Is that cuz it's bad? Nope. It's almost too good. It masks how hooliganish you're driving to the point of detracting from your involvement. You have to drive like a complete lunatic to get your blood pumping in the thing. Great smooth cruiser GT car, not a great sports car.
I feel like the M is more of a status symbol. Like no one would bother looking at a normal 4 series, but slap on an M and things change. It’s like with Dodge and their varieties of insane horsepower numbers. Yeah hellcat red eyes are cool, but put on a demon badge and you have way more respect. Great vid as always Omar.
It’s clear as dAy the m4 looks way more aggressive than a base 435i. Fenders are winder the side skirts are longer , front fascia and kindney grills , the hood is taller and so on. I know a m car as soon as I see it. Picking up a m4 comp pack in 1 month.
Both are great cars but they are sooo different to drive. For example, the 440i (even with MPPSK) is very quick but also fairly refined and something of a sleeper. The M4 is stunning, but it’s an animal compared to the 440i and much much noisier in the cabin. The M4 also draws much more attention which can be a double-edged sword. ETTO but I actually prefer the 435i/440i as a daily driver even though there a plenty of times I wish I was in an M4!
Great advice. Thanks. Was thinking of a 435 or 440i but if an M4 pulled up next to me at the traffic lights, I just know that I wished I'd spent the extra money and gone for the M4, even though I can't really afford it :( Lets see. Cheers, Jon. From the UK.
I feel you bro, gotta e46 330ci and a e92 335i coupe, I make good money, but im realistic, I can afford more of a 435i, but the m4 can also be obtained, just gotta shell out more money, the 435i looks amazing tho, the new gen body's are sick!
I have money for a m4 but o bought a 435 for daily because i wanna use the rest of my money to buy a really sport car for weekends like a 2013 Porsche 911.
The m4 is better if youre going to eventually spend $20k on your 435 to make it as good as a m4 but you lose value on a modded car over a special car like a m4 where it wont depreciate nearly as bad. Now, being able to afford the M right off the bat is the challengimg part
here is the right question, $40,000 compared to $80,000 for a brand new m4, is it worth the $40,000 price gap? currently the bmw m4 is still in the first generation of vehicles so getting a 2014 m4 compared to the 2018-2019 bmw m4 is not much of a difference, just a few interior and exterior differences, i don't think the performance is any different.
Great video BUT. 1. 70-90km everything starts to leak 2. I could be wrong, but 435i M Performance Edition has identical suspension to M4 3. Countless n54 m55 motors have failed by 150km, rod bearings on 2nd cylinder, timing. 4. 435i is very far away from being a slow or boring car, they are blast to drive.
Nice video . Too bad we'll never get an xdrive M4. Living in NY and needing the car to be a dialy driver, there's no way I could ever buy a real wheel drive car. 435i coupe wins
the video makes absolutely perfect sense. I had some experience with f30 and m4. Yes, m4 is the best absolutely. But it cost like x2 to 440i now and it really seems that you can have a lot of fun with a 440 m sport package. So me personally I would go with 440i just because of the price. Obviously, if you have 50k for a toy m4 is a better choice. But just not x2 better in my opinion
How about 435i vs 440i second hand? 435i is much cheaper, sometimes like 10 grand. Is it worth it to shell out that more money? Also, do this engine has some special bad point? How many miles (kilometers) can you make with this engine? Cause there are a lot of second hand ones with 80-90K miles. Are they worth the buy?
Darko Sola get like a 2016 low mileage 435i. Spend the saved $$ on exhaust, a tune, IC and charge pipe upgrade, and still pocket the extra $5k. - - - As for your engine question, just watch for typical failure points like the fuel pump, etc., let it properly warm up before driving - especially in colder climates, get 2x as many oil changes if you drive it in sport mode a lot, and if you do those things, the engine will not be the limiting factor in determining the life of the car. It’s fairly bullet proof.
I have the 335i M Sport with the N55, and I only use 1/2 the HP & Torque capacity. It's just my daily to drive the kids around, so I would have been fine with the 320i. I didn't like the sound of the 4 cylinder, and I wanted the engine not to work at max all the time, so I thought the 335i was a wise choice. I don't track at all, so the M3 would have been way too expensive, and frustrating to hold back all that power.
Rollan is my fraternal twin from another town! I have the Msport package E93 and N55, and like him, am not trying to kill it off! Lol. But unlike him, I have and itch for a 400+tune! If I do what Tyler is doing to 435i, I'm going to be a menace around Sacramento! Lol
have you driven the M4 vert? curious how much slower the vert is due to the extra weight? I like the M4 and think the vert would be a TON of fun to cruise in - I live in San Diego - think you are in the area?? - and in so cal you can drive top down all the time... so i'm thinking a vert might be a tad slower but would maybe be more fun? with a tune I would think the vert could be made as fast or even faster than the stock M4 coupe? I'm not looking to track the car or really race..but want the car to be plenty fast. any thoughts? love your new car!
I might be homeless next month. I'll make vids how living out of a 328i works out. I make good money working in I.T. but that doesn't matter because of bad credit. This is America, section 8 for able and lazy. And the back of a car seat for me, someone who has turned his life around from selling drugs to an I.T professional with an impeccable resume. I'll do what need in order to repair my credit and own my own home.
I live in Cali and with these gas prices I’d prefer a 435 and save gas for the inevitable maintenance costs otherwise I’d prefer an m4 in a lower gas state. 93 octane here is 4.29..so yep.
About the sound this is not completely correct. If you get an m3/4 with the competition package it sounds a LOT better than a 435i. That high pitched turbo whip when you switch gears when you get the competition package and even better with the competition exhaust is unreal. You don’t get that unique sound with the 335i/435i
I liked the video a lot. Goid explanation. How about a comparison between a 435i vs 440i? I want to buy one of those and while i know the 440i uses a different engine i dont know which is better for power and reliability.
I just got an M Sport 435i Gran Coupe and I love it, every upgrade possible and I’ve put a little more into it like new kidney grills, spoiler, and m style mirrors. As a first time bmw owner and you’re a bmw enthusiast, what would you recommend for upgrades to boost my performance, sound and style? They never made a straight M4 Gran coupe (wish they did!) so I’m trying to make one myself as much as possible... Thanks!
I'll put it like this if you live in the city I do not recommend a M of any sorts, Why? You say most inner cities have mad traffic and you cant get the full enjoyment of the M. I live in cali and I see supercars and major sports cars all day going like 40-60 on the freeway the shit is crazy. I have a e60 M5 and man I only get to enjoy it out side of the city other than that its mostly me sitting in traffic
People who compare 425 with M4 dont know what's BMW M means.They have probably never own M car. No the 425 is not even close to M4 or M4 competition when it comes to anything:) Just stop compare them
You know your stuff mate, more cars less you ;) I’ve got the 435 I 8 gears wtf! Like a rally car, looks bad for the city too. Prefer my old 6 but hey 👍
@@SimplyCarThings I'm dead serious.....automatics are for pussies, stupid pussies at that. Who cares about how some shitty automatic car shifts; it's not like you're the one shifting it. They're all the same worthless garbage. You don't drive an automatic, it drives you. It's totally pathetic. If you can't get a car in manual, it's not worth getting at all. Only manual transmission cars have any real differences that give the cars personalities and are worth discussing. Seriously, anybody who buys an automatic car should be forced to get the words "flaming faggot" painted on the side of their car in large font. It's like, "here's my fairy faggot automatic car, now let's discuss how gay it is." Dude, get a manual; other than that, I don't want to hear anything from you.
If you can $$ you buy a M4, but If you can't you say 435i is a better choice and all those shit the 435 owners say. "You can tune and get the M4 Power with less money etc etc etc..." 😂😅😂😅
Both are right for me, But do i have the money for them? no
Bmw M3 e46 😁👍
The first honest person in the comment section of a UA-cam car channel. Congrats!
LMAAAOOO
I feel like a bmw 435i is more than enough! M4 is too expensive
Plus 435 have that wicked AWD
@@geo745don wat about 440i
The way I see it if you want the best BMW out the box go for the M. I do recommend going 335i/435i mainly because the aftermarket support will make you as fast or faster than an M3-M4. If your really serious about performance go M like you said.
Khalid335i great points bro!
There’s a aftermarket support for f8x too 😉
The way I see it the M sport / M performance cars could have been full M cars in yesteryear it just shows how far we've progressed
totally agree with you!
I thought the 435i was too underwhelming...or rather...too subtle for a sports car. Its superbly comfortable and smooth, but the way the engine/trans delivers the power is so understated that you don't even realize or feel how fast you're going, then when you look down at your speedo and you're like WOAH. OK. Wow...its just not an event.
Is that cuz it's bad? Nope. It's almost too good. It masks how hooliganish you're driving to the point of detracting from your involvement. You have to drive like a complete lunatic to get your blood pumping in the thing. Great smooth cruiser GT car, not a great sports car.
You def don’t know what you’re talking about. Throw on some dps full straight pipe & strut then let’s talk .
I feel like the M is more of a status symbol. Like no one would bother looking at a normal 4 series, but slap on an M and things change. It’s like with Dodge and their varieties of insane horsepower numbers. Yeah hellcat red eyes are cool, but put on a demon badge and you have way more respect.
Great vid as always Omar.
Eric Meyer thanks brotha! Appreciate it
Tbh majority of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 435i vs m4 without badging
achpeesee6 body styling is another way
It’s clear as dAy the m4 looks way more aggressive than a base 435i. Fenders are winder the side skirts are longer , front fascia and kindney grills , the hood is taller and so on. I know a m car as soon as I see it. Picking up a m4 comp pack in 1 month.
@@992turbos8 il just put a body kit and exaust on and some badges and wheels. Cmon im good.
Both are great cars but they are sooo different to drive. For example, the 440i (even with MPPSK) is very quick but also fairly refined and something of a sleeper. The M4 is stunning, but it’s an animal compared to the 440i and much much noisier in the cabin. The M4 also draws much more attention which can be a double-edged sword. ETTO but I actually prefer the 435i/440i as a daily driver even though there a plenty of times I wish I was in an M4!
Would you go with the 435 or 440?
But the m4 sounds awful personally compared to the 440i but I love the look of the m4
I bought a f30 335i for 22k and a m3/m4 is going for twice as much as that and with just 5k you can make a 335i have crazy amounts of power
Great advice. Thanks. Was thinking of a 435 or 440i but if an M4 pulled up next to me at the traffic lights, I just know that I wished I'd spent the extra money and gone for the M4, even though I can't really afford it :( Lets see. Cheers, Jon. From the UK.
thanks for watching man! im in the same boat, i think to myself a lot that the full M car is what i really want. but i enjoy my 235i a lot!
I feel you bro, gotta e46 330ci and a e92 335i coupe, I make good money, but im realistic, I can afford more of a 435i, but the m4 can also be obtained, just gotta shell out more money, the 435i looks amazing tho, the new gen body's are sick!
The 435i /440i can be also xdrive
Rami Avital forgot to mention that, good point
Isn't it like this: If you can buy it => Buy the M4. If you can't => Buy the 435i.
Corleone no you can’t lol a used 440i is going to be dirt cheap and depreciate like crazy where a used m4 right now will keep its value
I have money for a m4 but o bought a 435 for daily because i wanna use the rest of my money to buy a really sport car for weekends like a 2013 Porsche 911.
Lol i have 435i over m4 even i can buy like 10 m4 bcz im quite wealth.buying m4 is useless if u live in suck-bad traffic-country
I have a question if you have a 2015 435 with all the bells and whistles m performance and DINAN STAGE 4 What would you sell it for ?
I am thinking about getting a 435i coupe 2016 any advice
The m4 is better if youre going to eventually spend $20k on your 435 to make it as good as a m4 but you lose value on a modded car over a special car like a m4 where it wont depreciate nearly as bad. Now, being able to afford the M right off the bat is the challengimg part
here is the right question, $40,000 compared to $80,000 for a brand new m4, is it worth the $40,000 price gap? currently the bmw m4 is still in the first generation of vehicles so getting a 2014 m4 compared to the 2018-2019 bmw m4 is not much of a difference, just a few interior and exterior differences, i don't think the performance is any different.
-LSR- Winter i agree, i would go for a used 2015 m4 with low miles you can get them for around 40-45k
I sticked a stage 3 turbo upgraded engine components In my fbo 435i I’m making 653 to the wheels
Great video
BUT.
1. 70-90km everything starts to leak
2. I could be wrong, but 435i M Performance Edition has identical suspension to M4
3. Countless n54 m55 motors have failed by 150km, rod bearings on 2nd cylinder, timing.
4. 435i is very far away from being a slow or boring car, they are blast to drive.
What about the 440i b58 vs m4 ??
0:24 those are 18" or 19" wheels?
Nice video . Too bad we'll never get an xdrive M4. Living in NY and needing the car to be a dialy driver, there's no way I could ever buy a real wheel drive car.
435i coupe wins
Kane Dash G82 will have x drive
@@darrenstewart6813 just looked it up. That's pretty cool.
the new M4 is xdrive lol
6:39 the price hike is crazy, pain. Paid 30k for a 2016 435 grand coupe💔
Do you no if the rear bumper of m4 fit to f32?
Good review 💪🏽
thanks bro 🤟🏼
the video makes absolutely perfect sense. I had some experience with f30 and m4. Yes, m4 is the best absolutely. But it cost like x2 to 440i now and it really seems that you can have a lot of fun with a 440 m sport package. So me personally I would go with 440i just because of the price. Obviously, if you have 50k for a toy m4 is a better choice. But just not x2 better in my opinion
What an awesome video! How is this guy not advised BMW or something?
Don’t for get to mention the the waste gates on the newer F series models! 2014 and up is EWG and seem to hold boost a lot better than PWG cars
Mateo Michel definitely a good point to note!
How about 435i vs 440i second hand? 435i is much cheaper, sometimes like 10 grand. Is it worth it to shell out that more money?
Also, do this engine has some special bad point? How many miles (kilometers) can you make with this engine?
Cause there are a lot of second hand ones with 80-90K miles. Are they worth the buy?
Darko Sola get like a 2016 low mileage 435i. Spend the saved $$ on exhaust, a tune, IC and charge pipe upgrade, and still pocket the extra $5k. - - - As for your engine question, just watch for typical failure points like the fuel pump, etc., let it properly warm up before driving - especially in colder climates, get 2x as many oil changes if you drive it in sport mode a lot, and if you do those things, the engine will not be the limiting factor in determining the life of the car. It’s fairly bullet proof.
I have the 335i M Sport with the N55, and I only use 1/2 the HP & Torque capacity. It's just my daily to drive the kids around, so I would have been fine with the 320i. I didn't like the sound of the 4 cylinder, and I wanted the engine not to work at max all the time, so I thought the 335i was a wise choice. I don't track at all, so the M3 would have been way too expensive, and frustrating to hold back all that power.
Rollan definitely like your choice of model!
Rollan is my fraternal twin from another town! I have the Msport package E93 and N55, and like him, am not trying to kill it off! Lol. But unlike him, I have and itch for a 400+tune! If I do what Tyler is doing to 435i, I'm going to be a menace around Sacramento! Lol
Omg this timing on the video!! i am debating between the 2016 435i vs 2016 bmw m4
which one did you end up picking? I am in the same boat
Really nigga
435i
please a video, on tuning a 435i ( what bolt ons,mods, etc ) with the objective of keeping reliability as the utmost priority. thank you
Tune, downpipe, intercooler, charge pipe
Should I sell the 335is and get an M3 F80?
Fernando Martinez Reyna shoooot, i’d say go for it
I'd sell the 335is and even get into a 435
loading.. Na, the N55 is too slow in my opinion
Hey, I wanna do a m4 bodykit on 435i, but are the rear and front quarter panel the same on the f80 and f32 ?.
They are different!
@@SimplyCarThings I'm a really big fan of yours. You think I should avoid the conversion, and just focus on enjoying the car and what I have, right ?
Bro.. I think you meant to do this video S55 vs B58.. That's a closer comparison.. 440i vs M4.
The LakesideView 440i is a great car but it’s a bit newer and hasn’t been around long enough to know reliability and performance capacities
@@SimplyCarThings highest HP 4 series is 2014 435
have you driven the M4 vert? curious how much slower the vert is due to the extra weight? I like the M4 and think the vert would be a TON of fun to cruise in - I live in San Diego - think you are in the area?? - and in so cal you can drive top down all the time... so i'm thinking a vert might be a tad slower but would maybe be more fun? with a tune I would think the vert could be made as fast or even faster than the stock M4 coupe? I'm not looking to track the car or really race..but want the car to be plenty fast. any thoughts? love your new car!
I might be homeless next month. I'll make vids how living out of a 328i works out.
I make good money working in I.T. but that doesn't matter because of bad credit. This is America, section 8 for able and lazy. And the back of a car seat for me, someone who has
turned his life around from selling drugs to an I.T professional with an impeccable resume.
I'll do what need in order to repair my credit and own my own home.
Good luck dude 👍
Great vid. Very insightful :)
thank you Bryan!
I live in Cali and with these gas prices I’d prefer a 435 and save gas for the inevitable maintenance costs otherwise I’d prefer an m4 in a lower gas state. 93 octane here is 4.29..so yep.
Need to make a video about the 440i.
I would like to 👌🏼
Great video bro thank you 😎👍
So much info
M4 sounds like an eco boost f150 or mustang. WHAT A LET DOWN... ugliest exhaust note I’ve ever heard from a BMW.
About the sound this is not completely correct. If you get an m3/4 with the competition package it sounds a LOT better than a 435i. That high pitched turbo whip when you switch gears when you get the competition package and even better with the competition exhaust is unreal. You don’t get that unique sound with the 335i/435i
Sound is highly subjective, and while I agree the ZCP exhaust on an S55 sounds good, I wouldn't say it's better than an N55 engine note.
Have a stock 435i and in sport + it’s more than fast enough for me
THE 435I IS A EXTRAORDINARY CAR
I really want 435i but it's a useless treasure in Japan.
Why? Get 440i then ? Lol
What one is desirable, dynamically capable, and will retain more of its value?...not the oil burner.
I liked the video a lot. Goid explanation. How about a comparison between a 435i vs 440i? I want to buy one of those and while i know the 440i uses a different engine i dont know which is better for power and reliability.
Thanks for your feedback! I’d like to make a video on that topic soon hopefully
@@SimplyCarThings awesome, subscribing to see it. I dont know which car to pick
I just got an M Sport 435i Gran Coupe and I love it, every upgrade possible and I’ve put a little more into it like new kidney grills, spoiler, and m style mirrors. As a first time bmw owner and you’re a bmw enthusiast, what would you recommend for upgrades to boost my performance, sound and style? They never made a straight M4 Gran coupe (wish they did!) so I’m trying to make one myself as much as possible...
Thanks!
Great video. 💯
I'll put it like this if you live in the city I do not recommend a M of any sorts, Why? You say most inner cities have mad traffic and you cant get the full enjoyment of the M. I live in cali and I see supercars and major sports cars all day going like 40-60 on the freeway the shit is crazy. I have a e60 M5 and man I only get to enjoy it out side of the city other than that its mostly me sitting in traffic
People who compare 425 with M4 dont know what's BMW M means.They have probably never own M car. No the 425 is not even close to M4 or M4 competition when it comes to anything:)
Just stop compare them
What about the B58 compared to the N55
Daryl Rose Omar did a video on that a while back
435i/440i is a better daily driver, especially if you sit in heavy traffic.
Neither. 440i is better than both of them.
Philip McIntosh B58 is a serious engine. Makes 400whp with tune only. So yes, I agree.
You know your stuff mate, more cars less you ;) I’ve got the 435 I 8 gears wtf! Like a rally car, looks bad for the city too. Prefer my old 6 but hey 👍
I'll just get the 435d and put an M4 badge on it, problem solved.
don't do that 😂
@@SimplyCarThings It's tempting, but I think I'll stick with my e38 M7 for now 😉
Mad that I don’t get 93 octane fuel in my area. I wanna do stage 2
Who the hell cares how some shit automatic shifts.....dude, get a manual.
lmfaoooo you crack me up
@@SimplyCarThings I'm dead serious.....automatics are for pussies, stupid pussies at that. Who cares about how some shitty automatic car shifts; it's not like you're the one shifting it. They're all the same worthless garbage. You don't drive an automatic, it drives you. It's totally pathetic. If you can't get a car in manual, it's not worth getting at all. Only manual transmission cars have any real differences that give the cars personalities and are worth discussing. Seriously, anybody who buys an automatic car should be forced to get the words "flaming faggot" painted on the side of their car in large font. It's like, "here's my fairy faggot automatic car, now let's discuss how gay it is." Dude, get a manual; other than that, I don't want to hear anything from you.
If you can $$ you buy a M4, but If you can't you say 435i is a better choice and all those shit the 435 owners say. "You can tune and get the M4 Power with less money etc etc etc..." 😂😅😂😅
Conclusion m4 is better except price.
435i will definitely win 💪
440i xdrive > m4
J0J0McM0M0 how so?
great review annoying background music!!
435i is for brokies