When the season started I was so excited to see some of my favorite queens for an entire season. Then I realized this is drag race and production will do anything to control the queens, because they haven’t trusted queens to create a good storyline themself since season 12, but they shouldn’t trust themself to make it unless it’s in direct collaboration with the queens. This season quickly devolved into the “same old shit”
Idk, I don't think Nymphia's edit was that bad, it felt kind of like a 'hide the winner' style of edit but maybe just a little overdone with how in our faces Plane and Sapphira's edits were. But they did Angeria so dirty with this season. Like, if they had just chilled out with the free stars they were handing out left and right, Angeria would not have needed this twist to make the finale (which was clearly something they wanted). Also the insanely weird choices they made to like KINDA set up a Roxxxy vs. Angeria arc soured me on both of them this season. Meanwhile, Plastique gets almost exclusively positive content (apart from lipsyncs) of her either demolishing runways, the challenges, or being a good strategist and they just completely ignore a very deserving competitor to throw Vanjie into the top. Make it make sense, in my mind, Plastique at least deserved to be a "0 vote finalist" as recognition for how well she did even though we knew after she lost that 2nd lipsync and when Angeria got cut for the 2nd time that it was never her if either Roxxxy or Angeria were in the top 3.
What I really don't understand is why they led us on with the story archs. Everyone knew it was going to be Roxxxy who was going to win. Then they pulled a stunt on Roxxxy, Plastique, Nina, and even Angeria and made the whole season irrelevant when deciding the winner 😢
They gave Angeria an underdog edit and because she was black yall said it was a “villain edit” when they gave Roxxy the “villain edit” example : with vanjie and Angeria on the challenge talking about southern , her gaslighting Angeria , and her shady stunt she pulled when she acted like she didn’t know she was behind Angeria. But for whatever reason , because it happened to who it happened to yall saw Angeria as the villain. That’s what’s crazy. Yall never fail to pander to the “racist allegations “ Angeria never even clapped back or said anything shady. She was the jinxk of the season on both of her seasons babe. Watch it back unbiasedly and actually try to pay attention to what you are watching and not the racially biased fans like yourself . Which will be hard for you.
I've noticed they've been doing that within the episodes, too. I feel like they're trying too hard to be mysterious/unexpected. There were a lot of fakeout episodes like Jorgeous getting a winning edit during the stand-up challenge but not winning. There were multiple other moments like this this season iirc. Maybe predictability is fine, at least compared to feeling like results just get pulled out of production's asses.
@@CASantos Yeah, maybe this is what the producers are going for with this new era. It happened with Nymphia too, tho i thought her winning made since she had a silent threat edit. Angeria's didnt felt as satisfying to me the same way Nymphia was tho :/. Like, i dont think she should have won the Talent Show at all. Imo, Plastique, Shannel and Jorgeous did better and deserved her's and Vanjie's spot more. If she won the Talent Show "fairly" i would have agreed with her win. Ig they chose her bcs of the thing with "you all have a chance to win and the Top 3 spot isnt set in stone" thingy. Aka shock value of "Wow, she really pulled it at the last second!" kinda thing. I love those, but it has to be organic imo. We will see with S17 and AS10 tho.
@@Hidethemmoneyyall I think they both had "villanous" or shady moments in the edit, I think people are reacting this way because the more recent episodes were definitely more focus on Roxxxy and her struggles and successes in a way that made her feel like a hero, it felt like they dropped the underdog narative or any focus on Angie really for no reason, at least that's how i feel. SHe's still great and well deserving to be the winner, the season was just bad lol
Angelia won but ruined by production & invalidated the competition and I hope less queens say yes to All stars now it’s always ruined by production hard
Saphirra robbed Plane Jane robbed Q Robbed If you didn't leave messages like this for S 16 the leave Angie tf alone. It's getting annoying at this point.
i feel like jorgeous was definitely just here to kind of troll everyone. she consistently trolled the other queens with her sarcasm and gave us a few funny moments. i think her casting definetly could’ve been from ru’s favoritism of her… maybe she’ll be better on another season
we need a comedically strong cast of drag race ASAP i think the one of the main reasons this season was so boring (aside from the format) was that no one is particularly experienced in comedy (bar nina, though her comedy is more family friendly which is pretty different for drag race) so any comedy challenge was sort of hard to get through
i find it really hard to put into words why i hate this season. i feel like its really hard to point to a spesfic problem but i can say that this "cast" had such little chemistry at times, not even that they hated each other but that would be interesting. there was just these 2-3 person clicks but they didnt interact interestingly enough outside of these clicks except for roxxy and angeria
We gonna talk about how the crew from the show ended up suing the show because of the mistreatment from THIS cast? Cause 2/3 of the final 3 were literally claimed to be awful to work with. Can you guess who out of the top 3 was claimed to be an Angel on and off the show? The one who won. We love Angeria, and she deserved to win. A literal saint.
@@bunjijumper5345 William & alaska reiterated that WOW was getting sued (but attempting to settle) by former staff for toxic work environment culture when working on all stars 9, specifying the reason for the lawsuit was in part because of how certain queens treated them. the queens named for mistreatment were gottmik, vanjie and roxxxy specifically. if word got out it would be a brand risk so logistically speaking that could've played a huge part in choosing who to win. look it up, the details are pretty revealing. grain of salt and all that, but it could be a reason. either way, i was rooting for angie the whole season, so im happy.
@@whitegrill8809 I like Angie the best too, but it’s hard to believe the queens would be so nasty to staff, I mean most of the people come from nothing, it’s hard for me to see people treat others like trash! For their sakes, I hope it’s not true. ♥️
@@bunjijumper5345 i do too. but if it is, and theyre trying to settle so it doesnt go into court and become public, if it did get out, someone named in the lawsuit would be a brad risk. and 3 queens were painted as angels, nina, angie, and shannel. everyone else was named in some way and 2/3 were very specific with how they were named apparently, with gottmik, in their mistreatment.
You clearly have not watched Big Brother season 22, and it's also an all stars season. And they only have 2 all stars with the first all stars being one of the best.
Can’t wait for the longer vid of all stars 9! Alsooo, I just have a tiny bit of hope that you could make the “How I would’ve judge AS9”. Please, do it for Tammy Brown.
I was rooting for Angeria this whole season, glad she got her flowers but I fr thought this season was so clearly Roxxxy’s, bc it’s fucking Roxxxy motherfucking Andrews - you can’t read the doll!!? I think All Stars barely has any weight on the Drag Race franchise anymore due to the yearly seasons, vs the world and not global all stars. All Stars really needs a break atleast after season 10 (which is probably already planned or filming anyway) and needs to rethink the creation and *meaning* behind the All Stars series..
I have been defending all stars 9 since the premiere. The promo was incredible, the challenges were great (moments like Gottmik's looks on the ball, Angeria's ep 1 performance, Vanjie's Holy Guacamole and Roxxxy's lip sync to No one gets the prize are unforgettable to me) But damn, these last 2 episodes even made I hate this season. Episode 11 was literally nothing happening for one hour straight, Double Diamond is stupid and the 3 star twist already destroyed all stars 7, so I really don't know why these stupid producers tried to bring it back, couldn't be good I hope that non-elimination seasons never get brought back. AS9 was one of my favorite all stars seasons up to episode 10 but production threw the entire product into a volcano and made us watch it burn (English is not my first language, if you see any spelling mistake please let me know)
They have to have this three badges twist, otherwise the top3 is already decided prior to the last episode and there is no effort from the queens to do anything cause they know they either can't go to the finale or are already in the finale... it's a double edge sword though, cause it makes it feel like only the episode leading up to the finale counts... the only way to solve this is to get rid of non-elimination seasons...
@@fredericobahia They could bump it to two and give the option or eliminate the queens that cant get into the finale. Same thing with the queens that already are in the finale. Give them the option/allow them to skip the episode and go straight to the finale. Or award 2 stars and allow the winner of the lipsync remove 1 star from one of the queens, or award 1 and allow them to steal 1. We have options.
This season must have been created so that Rupaul and the show could get tax breaks from donations to charity. Plus they strengthen their “good image” with their donations. Honestly, this was very smart for the executives-not so much for the quality of the season. But hey, it’s all for charity right? So who cares lmao
This season was frustrating. Nothing but the finale mattered. Even the talent show Top 2 didn’t end up making sense, and the Winner was the weakest in the LFTC.
@@robin_aurora AS8 is over hated af. Its 100% better than 1, 5 and 9. The drama and tea we had from this season???? Divine. Alexis Michelle and Jessica Wild??? Jimbo eating the competition and runway every week??? AS8 was fun. I will die on this hill.
Just like Jasmine Masters said, RuPaul's Drag Race is fu€keup drag. 2 ORIGINAL SONGS WON THE TALENT SHOW AGAIN... It definitely had to be Shannel and Jorgues. I don't see anything worth watching in these talent episodes. İt's boring... Singing, lip syncing or doing ordinary dancing are not shows you will do to impress us.BRO THIS IS YOUR JOB, YOU NEED TO DO THİS ALREADY. You need to offer us something different and memorable in talent shows.
I think Jorgeous was cast to justify the non-elim season beyond charity. they needed a queen that they knew would struggle at the beginning and then they could edit as finally winning challenges in the second half. it changes what a non-elim season is for if they can showcase a queen doing bad but slowly getting better throughout the competition, i think some folx don't want to see a queen who's not ready but slowly learns throughout the competition to be cast but jorgeous changed the way I think about non Elim seasons and that anyone could be on one if producers want to give a storyline
I was honestly loving this season, but the last two episodes sucked so bad. I’m not even one of those “Roxxxy was robbed” people, it just didn’t feel like a true finale
I need the producers to give the queens the twist ahead of time so they can plan their game accordingly. The riggory can be VERY fun, especially if we know the bounds of what can happen instead of insisting on a total surprise gag at the last minute making an ass pull
Angie is one of my all time faves, and I was so so thrilled she won! Her, Plastique and Roxxxy I think performed the strongest all Season, and I honestly would have taken any of them as the final winner. However, I do think that judging was INCREDIBLY unfair. Without bringing my own feelings on who I WANTED to win in to it, I think Plastique and Shannel had by far the best and most unique talent show performances. Plastqiue 1000% deserved her place in that final three. I love Vanjie, but that was a serious shocker for me. I so vehemently disagree with the whole three badges for the finale challenge thing (and all the other badge shennanigans this season)- so I think if we look at the Season as a whole, Roxxxy probably (almost definitely) deserved that win-.But Angie was a close second for me at the very least 😊 In terms of the sheer amount of talent she put on display this Season. I just do not understand why they dont just have a point based system for these none elim seasons. 4 if you are in the top 2, 3 if safe, 2 if low, 1 if bottom, and then the winner of the lip sync gets the full 5. It'd be so so much more fair. Then maybe a extra point or two for mini challenge wins. Thats it. Thats all it needed to be. And I think in that instance Angie, Plastique and Roxxxy are Top 3- and things are a whole heck of a lot more fair. Ergh. You also wouldn't have the Issue of someone like Shannel, who was safe all Season, then had a top/strong few performances later on- feeling for most of the competition super behind, despite actually doing okay!
i’m stopping the video at :59 to point out i think it’s ironic you say that you had a mistreatment of angeria video planned. in my thoughts, i alluded to the fact that part of my frustration with the final choice was that the edit didn’t tell me that at all so im pleasantly surprised to see we interpreted that similarly. can’t wait to hear more thoughts. i only trust u 😂
I’m happy you acknowledge that you completely underestimated plastique just because she found success on a dumb brain rot app and made an empire out of it, the comment about her not being able to be in the competition without making a tik tok when that’s just a job to her stuck with me for weeks, when you yourself are a content creator on a niche topic who I hope has skills outside of that
As much as i despise this season for the sheer amount of boredom it gives i would love to know how do you think she won. I cant wrap my head around it. It made 0 sense narative wise (more so than usual).
Damn so you are going to everyone reaction challenge and reaction and commenting the same thing? You are this upset? This is insane. From the beginning of the season until episode 8 it gave Angeria as the winner and then Roxxy since the lala to make us unsuspecting what happened was none of you thought it was possible Angeria could win for other biases such as the one you have that we literally just spoke on 5 mins ago. You are weird bro. Stop question this channel and other people because they don’t agree with you or have the same biases you have.
@@severusenape1167 Lol, they are. They comment in every comment of mine saying that im racist when i dont agree with a black winning smth (actually, they do that with everyone). They use this language of "we talked about this" like they a parent or smth. Its funny. Besides, i never disagreed with Angeria's placement this season, just the Talent show lol. Let them be.
production saw a lot of people complaining about how this season was “made for roxxxy” and decided to crown angeria last minute also roxxxy ate that final lipsync, vanjie was a close 2nd and angeria was… there
Thanks for your honest opinion. I thought all the Queens were gifted but, like you, I found Rupaul’s way of determining the top 3 rather confusing. Some of your criticisms of the Queens were correct & I was too starry eyed about their multiple talents to really see of their flaws.
Like you, I wanted angeria to win but I was sad that it worked out this way, Roxxxy was set up to win. I wonder if the WOW lawsuit had anything to do with Angeria's win? Maybe production thought Roxxxy would get dragged through the mud once more news leaked and decided to crown the unproblematic queen? My personal top two of the talent show were Plastique and Nina West (surprisingly I know). I'm glad Angeria won regardless, she deserved the crown in my eyes because she never had a bad week, unlike Roxxxy (who IMO was on the low end of snatch game).
ANGERIA is a DESERVED WINNER!! Roxxxy got a badge from Nina and help from production (the makeover challenge). Angie ATE this season!! Crowning Roxxxy would've been too obvious and I'm glad they chose Angie... she was my winner from the start... and besides Rupaul LOVES Angie and her humour... at the end of the day it is RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE and Ru ultimately has the last say. #TeamAngieAlways
I stoped watching after episode 3 o 4 when the mistreatment to Shannel got very evident. I was so mad, like actually mad about this season and I hope they don't use this format unless is another winners thing that actually made some sense
People act like juggling with fake knifes is an insane talent and not something bored teenagers pick up on in a couple weeks, I garante you that Shannel doing something we already knew and have seen her do dressed in the craziest looking Amazon bodysuit had much less behind it and was both less impressive and entertaining then all the work that’s behind plastic’s number. This is no hate for her whatsoever I think she outdid most of the girls and is an insanely talented legend, but I myself wouldn’t be able to justify a top two placement to something that didn’t feel nearly as prepared or thought through then vanjie or plastique.
I think non-elimination could work, but the problem is that rpdr as a brand has gotten too concerned with catering to straight/broad appeal audiences, so even if there is any tension, they cut it out. From the All Stars 10 leaks, I hope that season turns out better, and that they wait at least another year for AS11
In my opinion Angeria's win was soured not just by her poor edit but by her win in the talent show. Where Shannel did a real talent, and the other queens (aside from Nina) did something a little extra with their lip sync (burlesque, lightsaber swinging, dancing or guitar playing), Angeria just walked from side to side. Was it funny? Um, a little. Was it entertaining? I guess? Was it worse than Nina's? Possibly. But it was nowhere near the best of the night. I was rooting for Angeria. But the way the season played out, it made no sense for her to win the final challenge and NOT AT ALL the whole season. Was this season worse than All Stars 8? Probably not. But time might change that. All Stars needs a dramatic change.
Her win was soured by immature, and toxic fans. Make your own decisions, not based on the "edits," because then people can justify hate and anger on something besides themselves. Talent should be the deciding factor, and angeria was the most talented of the cast.
@@vstoneman Eh, the most talent in the cast is debatable. It depends on who you ask and what they consider/value as talent. She is 100% up there tho. If we are talking about sheer numbers, even tho her not trying in the lipsyncs annoy me, Plastique did the best on the season by far. She could have easily won 6 challenges. I agree with this guy. If Angeria destroyed the Talent Show like, Jorgeous, Plastique and Shannel did i would have been on board with her her win, but she didnt, so she went into the finale with a BS twist. And imo (aswell as many others), Roxxxy did better than her this season, or was shown as doing better. So it feels weird.
@@vstoneman At the end of the day it's a TV show which claims to be somewhat fair. Adding so many unfair and unnecessary twists and not providing the winner with a decent edit or giving the season any momentum at all made it a bad season of television.
@@Bruce-yv9tm how did angeria get a bad edit. She was cut three times and still persevered. She had great runways, great comedy and acting and make up. I thought angeria was the one to beat.
@@vstoneman everything in the edit pointed to a Roxxxy win, with Roxxxy never having lost a lip sync across drag race, from the endless confessionals of other queens telling us how great she is, to her win in the lip sync lalaparuza. Angeria was painted as the villain in the cutting battle she had with Roxxxy. Instead of earning her place in the finale (which I think she deserved), Angeria had to get there through an unfair twist. All these things are part of her poor winner edit. Up until episode 9 I would have said she is a legitimate contender and that her edit was decent. But it all changed after that.
the judging of this episode was so boring i actually skipped the part where they send the queens away and they talk about them between judges only. It was weird how they insisted on the fact that Roxxxy won every lipsync she was in and then lost the last one.
If the formating and judging weren't so inconsistent and if this wasn't a non elimination season, it could've, I repeat, could've been one of the best seasons of all time
I love Angie but for some reason I didn’t like her and hated her win I just honestly hate wins when there is twist to get who they want in the finals! Plastic deserves to be in the top three! Not that she’d win but she earned it!
Angeria's talent show was not better than Jorgeous' or Plastique's... I was surprised when she was top 2!! This season was not the most boring for me, but there's a lot of things that make no sense at all... It could be one of the best seasons, a lot of fan favorites, but it could be better with the elimination format and not this "for the charity" thing (we all know they were paid) The most exciting parts were the runways...Plastique and Gottmik served us every episode!! :>
Has roxxy ever lost a lip sync? Alyssa season 5 Tatianna AS2 Miz cracker AS5 It looks like she won all 4 based on the chart for this season, and are there additional wins for the lollaparuza lip sync episode?? That’s wild
I love Angeria, but I can’t help but think maybe the fact that her charity was the National Black Justice Coalition worked in her favor (I’M BLACK OKAY DON’T THROW TOMATOES)
Angeria winning isn't the problem. How production created, filmed, and edit the season is. After a drawn out and unnecessary finale first half, we were shown 'snippets' of the final lip sync for the crown. We waited all season for that moment, and all we got was a choppy montage'! It makes me speculate the possibility that Vanjie clearly won that lip-sync, but since there's no way she was going to be crowned they showed us only a quick highlight reel of the three. There was nothing 'great' about this entire season, except for Plastique's looks and Gottmik's as well.Was there a single 'great' lip sync or acting challenge? No. The Russical was very good, but I feel no need to ever re-watch it. The Comedy Roast was well-done, but not brilliant. AS9 felt 'safe.'
I didn’t even watch it I didn’t even care SNOOZEFEST thank god we have CVTW2 and GAS1 to make up for this horse shit and Angeria really?! Why god why?!
Wait i missed how Gottmik is the 'biggest winner of this season' as you said in the end. Is it because he won every badge without any twists from the producers? Bc the same goes for plastique then, right? Or are we counting the lip sync wins too? (Genuine question not trying to be snarky)
@@CadaverJunky8 well think about it If the challenge was going to be worth one star, why would someone like Yvie try? She wouldn’t get a star and it wouldn’t be exciting TV since queens who couldn’t even tie for 4th don’t have a shot at making the finale Is it unfair to randomly award 3 stars at the end? Yeah but it at least makes sense from a production perspective
@pengoschwortz4734 they literally only do it to give the illusion of an even playing field and more "tension". It's a tool in their backup kit they can use when one or two people are dominating too hard.
@@AlexandreGarridoLopez I think all the queens are individually great, but the casting cohesiveness (is this a word?) could have been *MUCH* better. Like, bring in Ongina to play off with Shannel, Detox with Roxxxy, bring Thorgy and Betty and so on. They could have done a *MUCH* better casting.
All stars 9 is definetly one of the seasons of drag race.
This season was one of all time for sure.
Definitely one of the seasons, 100%
I think we can all agree that All Stars 9
Definitely one of all time indeed
Oh definitely..All stars 9 is 9 🙌🏼🙌🏼
“all stars 9 has been put down.” screaming. congrats angie🎉.no more non-elim seasons please!
When the season started I was so excited to see some of my favorite queens for an entire season. Then I realized this is drag race and production will do anything to control the queens, because they haven’t trusted queens to create a good storyline themself since season 12, but they shouldn’t trust themself to make it unless it’s in direct collaboration with the queens. This season quickly devolved into the “same old shit”
Damn, Plastique was only safe 3 times this whole season and could've easily had the highest track record if she just learned those words.
EXACTLY 😭😭😭😭😭😭 it’s painful to think about honestly
She's lazy she didn't care about winning she just wanted to come back to get more followers
@@saigelovesartpeople who say this truely didnt watch the season, shes so smart and was genuinely upset by not making the top 3.
@@saigelovesartshe was just strategic and lost every ls because she didn’t have to cut off someone. and that worked cuz she was never cut
@@jojoiskindasus I saw her point at the other queen because showing she didn't even try 🤷♂️
2024 is the year of giving the winners a terrible edit 😳
If they get a terrible edit we cannot say that they got favoured to win, even when they get favoured.
Idk, I don't think Nymphia's edit was that bad, it felt kind of like a 'hide the winner' style of edit but maybe just a little overdone with how in our faces Plane and Sapphira's edits were. But they did Angeria so dirty with this season. Like, if they had just chilled out with the free stars they were handing out left and right, Angeria would not have needed this twist to make the finale (which was clearly something they wanted). Also the insanely weird choices they made to like KINDA set up a Roxxxy vs. Angeria arc soured me on both of them this season. Meanwhile, Plastique gets almost exclusively positive content (apart from lipsyncs) of her either demolishing runways, the challenges, or being a good strategist and they just completely ignore a very deserving competitor to throw Vanjie into the top. Make it make sense, in my mind, Plastique at least deserved to be a "0 vote finalist" as recognition for how well she did even though we knew after she lost that 2nd lipsync and when Angeria got cut for the 2nd time that it was never her if either Roxxxy or Angeria were in the top 3.
would have to agree. Not bad winners but the edits suck ngl
I did not find Rupaul's TaxRace very interesting.
What I really don't understand is why they led us on with the story archs. Everyone knew it was going to be Roxxxy who was going to win. Then they pulled a stunt on Roxxxy, Plastique, Nina, and even Angeria and made the whole season irrelevant when deciding the winner 😢
They gave Angeria an underdog edit and because she was black yall said it was a “villain edit” when they gave Roxxy the “villain edit” example : with vanjie and Angeria on the challenge talking about southern , her gaslighting Angeria , and her shady stunt she pulled when she acted like she didn’t know she was behind Angeria. But for whatever reason , because it happened to who it happened to yall saw Angeria as the villain. That’s what’s crazy. Yall never fail to pander to the “racist allegations “ Angeria never even clapped back or said anything shady. She was the jinxk of the season on both of her seasons babe. Watch it back unbiasedly and actually try to pay attention to what you are watching and not the racially biased fans like yourself . Which will be hard for you.
Sis, I appreciate your opinion. I wanted Angeria to win. I am talking about production.
I've noticed they've been doing that within the episodes, too. I feel like they're trying too hard to be mysterious/unexpected. There were a lot of fakeout episodes like Jorgeous getting a winning edit during the stand-up challenge but not winning. There were multiple other moments like this this season iirc. Maybe predictability is fine, at least compared to feeling like results just get pulled out of production's asses.
@@CASantos Yeah, maybe this is what the producers are going for with this new era. It happened with Nymphia too, tho i thought her winning made since she had a silent threat edit. Angeria's didnt felt as satisfying to me the same way Nymphia was tho :/. Like, i dont think she should have won the Talent Show at all. Imo, Plastique, Shannel and Jorgeous did better and deserved her's and Vanjie's spot more. If she won the Talent Show "fairly" i would have agreed with her win.
Ig they chose her bcs of the thing with "you all have a chance to win and the Top 3 spot isnt set in stone" thingy. Aka shock value of "Wow, she really pulled it at the last second!" kinda thing. I love those, but it has to be organic imo. We will see with S17 and AS10 tho.
@@Hidethemmoneyyall I think they both had "villanous" or shady moments in the edit, I think people are reacting this way because the more recent episodes were definitely more focus on Roxxxy and her struggles and successes in a way that made her feel like a hero, it felt like they dropped the underdog narative or any focus on Angie really for no reason, at least that's how i feel. SHe's still great and well deserving to be the winner, the season was just bad lol
Ugh our suffering has truly ended this season was just all stars 7 format but with no actual stakes for trying
Roxxy robbed!
Plastique robbed!
Shannell robbed!
Angelia won but ruined by production & invalidated the competition and I hope less queens say yes to All stars now it’s always ruined by production hard
Saphirra robbed
Plane Jane robbed
Q Robbed
If you didn't leave messages like this for S 16 the leave Angie tf alone. It's getting annoying at this point.
@@ArieParty if only Q had worn her real haiwer, she wouldn't have been robbed
Eat it sweetheart❤@@ArieParty
i feel like jorgeous was definitely just here to kind of troll everyone. she consistently trolled the other queens with her sarcasm and gave us a few funny moments. i think her casting definetly could’ve been from ru’s favoritism of her… maybe she’ll be better on another season
all stars 10
I didn’t feel like she trolled anyone, just was shading Angeria the entire time.
Jorgeous was wonderful this entire season? Like, personable, funny, great looks; it's crazy how many of you immediately discount her
we need a comedically strong cast of drag race ASAP i think the one of the main reasons this season was so boring (aside from the format) was that no one is particularly experienced in comedy (bar nina, though her comedy is more family friendly which is pretty different for drag race) so any comedy challenge was sort of hard to get through
i find it really hard to put into words why i hate this season. i feel like its really hard to point to a spesfic problem but i can say that this "cast" had such little chemistry at times, not even that they hated each other but that would be interesting. there was just these 2-3 person clicks but they didnt interact interestingly enough outside of these clicks except for roxxy and angeria
We gonna talk about how the crew from the show ended up suing the show because of the mistreatment from THIS cast? Cause 2/3 of the final 3 were literally claimed to be awful to work with. Can you guess who out of the top 3 was claimed to be an Angel on and off the show? The one who won. We love Angeria, and she deserved to win. A literal saint.
I woudlnt believe these kinds of rumors they are often wrong, and get people to hate the wrong people.
@@bunjijumper5345 William & alaska reiterated that WOW was getting sued (but attempting to settle) by former staff for toxic work environment culture when working on all stars 9, specifying the reason for the lawsuit was in part because of how certain queens treated them. the queens named for mistreatment were gottmik, vanjie and roxxxy specifically. if word got out it would be a brand risk so logistically speaking that could've played a huge part in choosing who to win. look it up, the details are pretty revealing. grain of salt and all that, but it could be a reason. either way, i was rooting for angie the whole season, so im happy.
@@whitegrill8809 I like Angie the best too, but it’s hard to believe the queens would be so nasty to staff, I mean most of the people come from nothing, it’s hard for me to see people treat others like trash! For their sakes, I hope it’s not true. ♥️
@@bunjijumper5345 i do too. but if it is, and theyre trying to settle so it doesnt go into court and become public, if it did get out, someone named in the lawsuit would be a brad risk. and 3 queens were painted as angels, nina, angie, and shannel. everyone else was named in some way and 2/3 were very specific with how they were named apparently, with gottmik, in their mistreatment.
I am curious as well if this had any influence on the win once the show aired…
This cast was lovely. Plastique blew me away and i wish she'd won. This season was, by far, the most boring season of reality TV I have ever watched.
You clearly have not watched Big Brother season 22, and it's also an all stars season. And they only have 2 all stars with the first all stars being one of the best.
Can’t wait for the longer vid of all stars 9! Alsooo, I just have a tiny bit of hope that you could make the “How I would’ve judge AS9”. Please, do it for Tammy Brown.
I was rooting for Angeria this whole season, glad she got her flowers but I fr thought this season was so clearly Roxxxy’s, bc it’s fucking Roxxxy motherfucking Andrews - you can’t read the doll!!?
I think All Stars barely has any weight on the Drag Race franchise anymore due to the yearly seasons, vs the world and not global all stars.
All Stars really needs a break atleast after season 10 (which is probably already planned or filming anyway) and needs to rethink the creation and *meaning* behind the All Stars series..
It's filming already, with 15 queens and a three-part premiere with 5 queens each, also going back to eliminations...
I have been defending all stars 9 since the premiere. The promo was incredible, the challenges were great (moments like Gottmik's looks on the ball, Angeria's ep 1 performance, Vanjie's Holy Guacamole and Roxxxy's lip sync to No one gets the prize are unforgettable to me)
But damn, these last 2 episodes even made I hate this season. Episode 11 was literally nothing happening for one hour straight, Double Diamond is stupid and the 3 star twist already destroyed all stars 7, so I really don't know why these stupid producers tried to bring it back, couldn't be good
I hope that non-elimination seasons never get brought back. AS9 was one of my favorite all stars seasons up to episode 10 but production threw the entire product into a volcano and made us watch it burn
(English is not my first language, if you see any spelling mistake please let me know)
@@LeandrinhoRaJah Your English is pretty good :D
your english is GREAT
They have to have this three badges twist, otherwise the top3 is already decided prior to the last episode and there is no effort from the queens to do anything cause they know they either can't go to the finale or are already in the finale... it's a double edge sword though, cause it makes it feel like only the episode leading up to the finale counts... the only way to solve this is to get rid of non-elimination seasons...
@@fredericobahia They could bump it to two and give the option or eliminate the queens that cant get into the finale. Same thing with the queens that already are in the finale. Give them the option/allow them to skip the episode and go straight to the finale. Or award 2 stars and allow the winner of the lipsync remove 1 star from one of the queens, or award 1 and allow them to steal 1. We have options.
This season must have been created so that Rupaul and the show could get tax breaks from donations to charity. Plus they strengthen their “good image” with their donations. Honestly, this was very smart for the executives-not so much for the quality of the season.
But hey, it’s all for charity right? So who cares lmao
This season was frustrating. Nothing but the finale mattered. Even the talent show Top 2 didn’t end up making sense, and the Winner was the weakest in the LFTC.
Nina deserved so much better
I think instead of the 3 badges for the last challenge, they should just give the winner of the lipsync a “steal a star”
The way they absolutely shafted Plastique and still expect me to care.
Congratulations to AS1 and 5 on no longer being the worst AllStars!!! Yaaay🎉
AS1 and 5 could never be the worst when 8 is right there...😭
You know damn well this season isn't the worst when 8 is right there
@@brianlucero7656 People went home on 8. This one was terminal cancer
@@robin_aurora AS8 is over hated af. Its 100% better than 1, 5 and 9. The drama and tea we had from this season???? Divine. Alexis Michelle and Jessica Wild??? Jimbo eating the competition and runway every week???
AS8 was fun. I will die on this hill.
@@robin_aurora8 could never be the worst when 7 is right there
My cast ranking
1. Angeria
2. Plastique
3. Shannel
4. Nina
5. Gotmik
6. Roxxxy
7. Jorgous
8. Vanjie
Just like Jasmine Masters said, RuPaul's Drag Race is fu€keup drag. 2 ORIGINAL SONGS WON THE TALENT SHOW AGAIN... It definitely had to be Shannel and Jorgues. I don't see anything worth watching in these talent episodes. İt's boring... Singing, lip syncing or doing ordinary dancing are not shows you will do to impress us.BRO THIS IS YOUR JOB, YOU NEED TO DO THİS ALREADY. You need to offer us something different and memorable in talent shows.
I always agree on this, but this one was a Variety show not a Talent show, so it's not the same.
@@fatimagarthia if it's a VARIETY show, than variety should be rewarded
Chanel also was kind of robbed in the talent show. I'm almost positive it was supposed to be done with black light or something given that outfit
I think Jorgeous was cast to justify the non-elim season beyond charity. they needed a queen that they knew would struggle at the beginning and then they could edit as finally winning challenges in the second half. it changes what a non-elim season is for if they can showcase a queen doing bad but slowly getting better throughout the competition, i think some folx don't want to see a queen who's not ready but slowly learns throughout the competition to be cast but jorgeous changed the way I think about non Elim seasons and that anyone could be on one if producers want to give a storyline
I was honestly loving this season, but the last two episodes sucked so bad. I’m not even one of those “Roxxxy was robbed” people, it just didn’t feel like a true finale
I'm so shocked Roxxxy didn't win...
I was definitely team Roxxxy, but im glad Angie won. With that being said, i wish she won on a season that had actual stakes
I hate how the editors edged me along all season. normally you have to date someone for this much gaslighting.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Shannel not winning the talent show was the universe balancing itself from her rusical win. 🤷♂️
The only time Ill be excited for a non elimination season will be if that makes Bendela return
AS9 was…..an odd season. Also yes, I too have Drag Race Burn out
I need the producers to give the queens the twist ahead of time so they can plan their game accordingly. The riggory can be VERY fun, especially if we know the bounds of what can happen instead of insisting on a total surprise gag at the last minute making an ass pull
Angie is one of my all time faves, and I was so so thrilled she won! Her, Plastique and Roxxxy I think performed the strongest all Season, and I honestly would have taken any of them as the final winner.
However, I do think that judging was INCREDIBLY unfair. Without bringing my own feelings on who I WANTED to win in to it, I think Plastique and Shannel had by far the best and most unique talent show performances. Plastqiue 1000% deserved her place in that final three. I love Vanjie, but that was a serious shocker for me. I so vehemently disagree with the whole three badges for the finale challenge thing (and all the other badge shennanigans this season)- so I think if we look at the Season as a whole, Roxxxy probably (almost definitely) deserved that win-.But Angie was a close second for me at the very least 😊 In terms of the sheer amount of talent she put on display this Season.
I just do not understand why they dont just have a point based system for these none elim seasons. 4 if you are in the top 2, 3 if safe, 2 if low, 1 if bottom, and then the winner of the lip sync gets the full 5. It'd be so so much more fair. Then maybe a extra point or two for mini challenge wins. Thats it. Thats all it needed to be. And I think in that instance Angie, Plastique and Roxxxy are Top 3- and things are a whole heck of a lot more fair. Ergh. You also wouldn't have the Issue of someone like Shannel, who was safe all Season, then had a top/strong few performances later on- feeling for most of the competition super behind, despite actually doing okay!
i’m stopping the video at :59 to point out i think it’s ironic you say that you had a mistreatment of angeria video planned. in my thoughts, i alluded to the fact that part of my frustration with the final choice was that the edit didn’t tell me that at all so im pleasantly surprised to see we interpreted that similarly. can’t wait to hear more thoughts. i only trust u 😂
I won't spoil anything, but I'll say this: you will love All Stars 10, it's shaping up to be crazy.
I’m happy you acknowledge that you completely underestimated plastique just because she found success on a dumb brain rot app and made an empire out of it, the comment about her not being able to be in the competition without making a tik tok when that’s just a job to her stuck with me for weeks, when you yourself are a content creator on a niche topic who I hope has skills outside of that
I dont mine she has the less amount of badges, IM OBSESSED WITH GOTMIK
As much as i despise this season for the sheer amount of boredom it gives i would love to know how do you think she won. I cant wrap my head around it. It made 0 sense narative wise (more so than usual).
Damn so you are going to everyone reaction challenge and reaction and commenting the same thing? You are this upset? This is insane. From the beginning of the season until episode 8 it gave Angeria as the winner and then Roxxy since the lala to make us unsuspecting what happened was none of you thought it was possible Angeria could win for other biases such as the one you have that we literally just spoke on 5 mins ago. You are weird bro. Stop question this channel and other people because they don’t agree with you or have the same biases you have.
@@Hidethemmoneyyallu seem upset 💀
@@severusenape1167 Lol, they are. They comment in every comment of mine saying that im racist when i dont agree with a black winning smth (actually, they do that with everyone). They use this language of "we talked about this" like they a parent or smth. Its funny.
Besides, i never disagreed with Angeria's placement this season, just the Talent show lol. Let them be.
@@Hidethemmoneyyall No.
production saw a lot of people complaining about how this season was “made for roxxxy” and decided to crown angeria last minute
also roxxxy ate that final lipsync, vanjie was a close 2nd and angeria was… there
Thanks for your honest opinion. I thought all the Queens were gifted but, like you, I found Rupaul’s way of determining the top 3 rather confusing. Some of your criticisms of the Queens were correct & I was too starry eyed about their multiple talents to really see of their flaws.
Welcome back roster pattern background we missed you!!
But Angeria was the only one blocked on an episode she won in
Like you, I wanted angeria to win but I was sad that it worked out this way, Roxxxy was set up to win.
I wonder if the WOW lawsuit had anything to do with Angeria's win? Maybe production thought Roxxxy would get dragged through the mud once more news leaked and decided to crown the unproblematic queen?
My personal top two of the talent show were Plastique and Nina West (surprisingly I know).
I'm glad Angeria won regardless, she deserved the crown in my eyes because she never had a bad week, unlike Roxxxy (who IMO was on the low end of snatch game).
should do a video going thru drag race wins of contestants that had no business being in the top
ANGERIA is a DESERVED WINNER!! Roxxxy got a badge from Nina and help from production (the makeover challenge). Angie ATE this season!! Crowning Roxxxy would've been too obvious and I'm glad they chose Angie... she was my winner from the start... and besides Rupaul LOVES Angie and her humour... at the end of the day it is RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE and Ru ultimately has the last say. #TeamAngieAlways
@@JordanOostendorp Chill its dumb TV show lol. Everybody is allowed to have their own opnion.
@@jpmedina8328 and that's just my opinion DUMBA**
@@JordanOostendorp No way :O
Thinking Vanjie would eat up Jorgeous in a lipsync is wild
I stoped watching after episode 3 o 4 when the mistreatment to Shannel got very evident. I was so mad, like actually mad about this season and I hope they don't use this format unless is another winners thing that actually made some sense
Angeria was high episode 4... so her track record is actually better than Roxxxy's..
Plastique was like Marina in UK VS The World : robbed, she deserved the win or at least top 2 but instead she was thrown under the top 3
People act like juggling with fake knifes is an insane talent and not something bored teenagers pick up on in a couple weeks, I garante you that Shannel doing something we already knew and have seen her do dressed in the craziest looking Amazon bodysuit had much less behind it and was both less impressive and entertaining then all the work that’s behind plastic’s number. This is no hate for her whatsoever I think she outdid most of the girls and is an insanely talented legend, but I myself wouldn’t be able to justify a top two placement to something that didn’t feel nearly as prepared or thought through then vanjie or plastique.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds it painful when Jorgous talks 😅
Knowing how much you love Drag race Espana, Will you do cast rankings for Drag race Espana Allstars?
I think non-elimination could work, but the problem is that rpdr as a brand has gotten too concerned with catering to straight/broad appeal audiences, so even if there is any tension, they cut it out. From the All Stars 10 leaks, I hope that season turns out better, and that they wait at least another year for AS11
Shannel being robbed is just insulting after that episode they made a big deal over letting her win. It just makes it feel extra fake
Yeah the queens can’t juggle like shannel but I would love to see shannel trying to do half of Vanjie’s choreo
The twist at the end ruined the season yet again, drag race never learns
In my opinion Angeria's win was soured not just by her poor edit but by her win in the talent show. Where Shannel did a real talent, and the other queens (aside from Nina) did something a little extra with their lip sync (burlesque, lightsaber swinging, dancing or guitar playing), Angeria just walked from side to side. Was it funny? Um, a little. Was it entertaining? I guess? Was it worse than Nina's? Possibly. But it was nowhere near the best of the night. I was rooting for Angeria. But the way the season played out, it made no sense for her to win the final challenge and NOT AT ALL the whole season. Was this season worse than All Stars 8? Probably not. But time might change that. All Stars needs a dramatic change.
Her win was soured by immature, and toxic fans. Make your own decisions, not based on the "edits," because then people can justify hate and anger on something besides themselves. Talent should be the deciding factor, and angeria was the most talented of the cast.
@@vstoneman Eh, the most talent in the cast is debatable. It depends on who you ask and what they consider/value as talent. She is 100% up there tho. If we are talking about sheer numbers, even tho her not trying in the lipsyncs annoy me, Plastique did the best on the season by far. She could have easily won 6 challenges. I agree with this guy. If Angeria destroyed the Talent Show like, Jorgeous, Plastique and Shannel did i would have been on board with her her win, but she didnt, so she went into the finale with a BS twist. And imo (aswell as many others), Roxxxy did better than her this season, or was shown as doing better. So it feels weird.
@@vstoneman At the end of the day it's a TV show which claims to be somewhat fair. Adding so many unfair and unnecessary twists and not providing the winner with a decent edit or giving the season any momentum at all made it a bad season of television.
@@Bruce-yv9tm how did angeria get a bad edit. She was cut three times and still persevered. She had great runways, great comedy and acting and make up. I thought angeria was the one to beat.
@@vstoneman everything in the edit pointed to a Roxxxy win, with Roxxxy never having lost a lip sync across drag race, from the endless confessionals of other queens telling us how great she is, to her win in the lip sync lalaparuza. Angeria was painted as the villain in the cutting battle she had with Roxxxy. Instead of earning her place in the finale (which I think she deserved), Angeria had to get there through an unfair twist. All these things are part of her poor winner edit. Up until episode 9 I would have said she is a legitimate contender and that her edit was decent. But it all changed after that.
All stars should go back to a season every other year. And to queens who havent come back yet, with all stars 2 format.
the judging of this episode was so boring i actually skipped the part where they send the queens away and they talk about them between judges only. It was weird how they insisted on the fact that Roxxxy won every lipsync she was in and then lost the last one.
Congratulations to Angie ❤
i knew the top two would be angie and roxxxy so when roxxxy beat angie in the lalaparuza AND have her the final snip it felt like she beat her out
If the formating and judging weren't so inconsistent and if this wasn't a non elimination season, it could've, I repeat, could've been one of the best seasons of all time
I would also like to add that I'm glad most people didn't see Angeria as a villain despite the producers giving her the villain edit
I love Angie but for some reason I didn’t like her and hated her win I just honestly hate wins when there is twist to get who they want in the finals! Plastic deserves to be in the top three! Not that she’d win but she earned it!
SNOOZEFEST WAKE UP PEARL WAKE UP THIS WAS GARBAGE TV
the beginning of the video? werk
Angeria's talent show was not better than Jorgeous' or Plastique's...
I was surprised when she was top 2!! This season was not the most boring for me, but there's a lot of things that make no sense at all...
It could be one of the best seasons, a lot of fan favorites, but it could be better with the elimination format and not this "for the charity" thing (we all know they were paid)
The most exciting parts were the runways...Plastique and Gottmik served us every episode!! :>
Can you do a cast ranking for season 15-16 else casting ranking for espana all-stars please
Has roxxy ever lost a lip sync?
Alyssa season 5
Tatianna AS2
Miz cracker AS5
It looks like she won all 4 based on the chart for this season, and are there additional wins for the lollaparuza lip sync episode?? That’s wild
This season was so mediocre, Plastique should have won
I mean based on the fan reaction, shes winning at life
I love Angeria, but I can’t help but think maybe the fact that her charity was the National Black Justice Coalition worked in her favor (I’M BLACK OKAY DON’T THROW TOMATOES)
i was rooting for Angeria to win so i’m happy with that, but that last episode was… weird?
also, Shannel robbed queen
if you didnt understand why jorgeous was cast, just wait for as10... 😬
What is this meant to mean... Please tell me she doesn't flop 😭
Angeria winning isn't the problem. How production created, filmed, and edit the season is. After a drawn out and unnecessary finale first half, we were shown 'snippets' of the final lip sync for the crown. We waited all season for that moment, and all we got was a choppy montage'! It makes me speculate the possibility that Vanjie clearly won that lip-sync, but since there's no way she was going to be crowned they showed us only a quick highlight reel of the three. There was nothing 'great' about this entire season, except for Plastique's looks and Gottmik's as well.Was there a single 'great' lip sync or acting challenge? No. The Russical was very good, but I feel no need to ever re-watch it. The Comedy Roast was well-done, but not brilliant. AS9 felt 'safe.'
Jorgeous cannot talk 💀
I didn’t even watch it I didn’t even care SNOOZEFEST thank god we have CVTW2 and GAS1 to make up for this horse shit and Angeria really?! Why god why?!
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Roxxxy and Plastique were robbed. No hate towards Angie, though
You feel like Shannel juggling…should have been in the top
Wait i missed how Gottmik is the 'biggest winner of this season' as you said in the end. Is it because he won every badge without any twists from the producers? Bc the same goes for plastique then, right? Or are we counting the lip sync wins too? (Genuine question not trying to be snarky)
AS9 is so bad it makes me wanna cry
I actually saw Roxxxy as the villain…
Didn't you forget one of angeria's high ? I remember her having 4 of them
Girl plastique is one of
Roxxxy and plastique not winning was saddddd
lmfao nice video
you didn't even watch it fully girl
Heeeey! Posted 3 min ago!
Love Angeria, i'm so happy she won! 🎉
Plastique's lip syncs were the only thing that was missing to make her a perfect place in the top 3
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You think Shanell shoulda replace Angie instead of vanjie … your bias is showing
quit youtube
slay
I don’t think the 3 stars was made for Shea
They were always going to do that so the queens in last didn’t just give up at the end
Sure jan
@@CadaverJunky8 well think about it
If the challenge was going to be worth one star, why would someone like Yvie try? She wouldn’t get a star and it wouldn’t be exciting TV since queens who couldn’t even tie for 4th don’t have a shot at making the finale
Is it unfair to randomly award 3 stars at the end? Yeah but it at least makes sense from a production perspective
@pengoschwortz4734 they literally only do it to give the illusion of an even playing field and more "tension". It's a tool in their backup kit they can use when one or two people are dominating too hard.
Sounds like you hate the show, better just not watch it
"weak casting", girl you're insane
@@AlexandreGarridoLopez I think all the queens are individually great, but the casting cohesiveness (is this a word?) could have been *MUCH* better. Like, bring in Ongina to play off with Shannel, Detox with Roxxxy, bring Thorgy and Betty and so on. They could have done a *MUCH* better casting.
No. GotMik was last place.