How BBC Bosses Sabotaged Nation's Dalek Spy Thriller: The Original Master Plan

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    The Feast of Steven Script Analysis: • Doctor Who's Weird 196...
    Terry Nation was keen to change the direction of his Dalek stories and move away from whimsical time travel like The Chase, and into a more gritty real world scenario, which he could then spin-off into its own series. He worked hard on his world-building, only to have it undermined by a big decision that came from on high...
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  • @thecelestialtoygazer7816
    @thecelestialtoygazer7816 Рік тому +13

    I am thankful Master Plan was extended, because it led to my all time favorite first doctor moment in episode 10 when the daleks are holding his companions hostage yet he's making the demands, he's the one in control of the situation

  • @owenrichards1418
    @owenrichards1418 Рік тому +21

    I love you guys. Thanks so much for making these supremely nerdy videos for all of us.

  • @nomdeguerre67
    @nomdeguerre67 Рік тому +7

    at 21:55 that image of tom baker is him as Puddleglum from The Silver Chair, (narnia) BBC, 1990.

  • @pertuk
    @pertuk Рік тому +12

    Interesting they planned to have a scene where Daleks attack the Test Match when something similar happened in the third H2G2 book which was originally an idea for a Dr Who story!

    • @geocachingwomble
      @geocachingwomble Рік тому +1

      Why not Douglas Adams was the doctor who script editor before he wrote hitchhikers guide to the galaxy

  • @gladiator652004
    @gladiator652004 Рік тому +11

    Great video! I LOVE 'The Daleks' Master Plan" and it sounds like I might have loved the tighter Terry Nation version even more! Still, what we ended up with is great too, and possibly my personal favourite Dr Who story!

  • @protomenfan200x
    @protomenfan200x Рік тому +6

    A fascinating episode, as always! I wonder if the six-episode would've been more likely to survive the junking process; would've been easier to resell it internationally without "The Feast of Steven" in the mix, for sure.
    And just to be silly, here's an idea for what the DARDIS's acronym could be:
    Dalek Achronal Roaming Dimensionally Intermittent Spacecraft

  • @paulvcooke
    @paulvcooke Рік тому +10

    Brilliant as usual, the high quality, and sense of humour in all your videos are great. Pigbin Tom nearly led to beer spillage I laughed so much.

    • @Dalek6388
      @Dalek6388  Рік тому +3

      Glad you got that joke. It seems that not everyone has!

  • @mrblobby7864
    @mrblobby7864 Рік тому +3

    I'm surprised that you haven't talked about Abducted by the Daleks yet. It's such a wild and obscure bit of vaguely Doctor Who related media and nobody has really talked about it in depth online. I bet the Nation estate were furious when it came out and if anyone could shine a light on it, it would be you!

  • @james68908
    @james68908 Рік тому +4

    17:01 that's a very impresssive colourised clip!

  • @originaluddite
    @originaluddite Рік тому +2

    When you ask for a time machine to be sent immediately, of course it arrives immediately. :)

  • @smorris12
    @smorris12 Рік тому +3

    I've always enjoyed the audio version of Daleks' Masterplan. I think I'm due another listen!

  • @adamsinclair1959
    @adamsinclair1959 Рік тому +27

    I really like the tonal shift Master Plan has, it helps the story feel fresh and spontaneous in a way it probably couldn't if it kept the same tone and setting throughout. It does cause some whiplash when the last episode switches back to the grim tone and gives us one of the saddest endings the show has ever had though.

    • @gordonfeetman445
      @gordonfeetman445 Рік тому

      I thought you said tonal shit

    • @adamsinclair1959
      @adamsinclair1959 Рік тому

      @@gordonfeetman445 Well, that's a whole other matter altogether...

    • @peytonmac1131
      @peytonmac1131 Рік тому

      The infamous 'Brown Note'.

    • @peytonmac1131
      @peytonmac1131 Рік тому +1

      I agree. It changes things up in a good way, rather than just adding a twist for the sae of it.

    • @geniusjohn8280
      @geniusjohn8280 Рік тому +1

      @@gordonfeetman445 Do Re Mi Fart.... Hey you had a tonal shit!

  • @richardmattocks
    @richardmattocks Рік тому +2

    Imagine the confidence the production office must have had to have an entire episode that had zero links to the original series regulars. Sure it had Daleks but still. Bold move.

  • @Asphalt2005
    @Asphalt2005 Рік тому +7

    Hello Gavin,
    Seeing as you have taken part of the DALEK Mark III Travel Machine Combat Training Manual, could you mabey do an extra video about Dalek tags from under the eyestalk? I thought that would be an very very interesting video.😄

  • @musicgarryj
    @musicgarryj Рік тому +27

    Fun fact: the recent BBC police series "Bloodlands", set in Northern Ireland... had a character with the surname Dardis: the only other time I have ever heard that word used anywhere else apart from on your channel! Was one of the "Bloodlands" scriptwriters a Dalek 63-88 geek?
    21:55 Is Tom Baker perhaps auditioning here to be considered for the role of Jon Pertwee's replacement? Was he credited in the episode?
    EDIT 22:15 It appears that Dardis is actually a genuine Irish surname.... so my geek theory sadly must be abandoned! haha

    • @mickeythompson9537
      @mickeythompson9537 Рік тому +7

      The Tom baker pic is from "The Silver Chair." A bit like saying he also played the Meddling Monk and having a still from "Nicholas and Alexandra" ;-)

    • @gladiator652004
      @gladiator652004 Рік тому +1

      Dardis was a very striking surname in 'Bloodlands' - sorry your theory wrong!

    • @zacmumblethunder7466
      @zacmumblethunder7466 Рік тому

      Pigbin Josh was played by Derek Ware, one if the regular stuntmen on the crew.

    • @Neil070
      @Neil070 Рік тому +4

      Perhaps Sidney Newman or Verity Lambert decided to name the ship using the Latin word "tardis" meaning late or slow, or perhaps they knew someone named Dardis...or some combination.....

  • @MarkMichalowski
    @MarkMichalowski Рік тому +2

    "Sarah Kingdom" is just _such_ a Bondian name, isn't it? :)

  • @andriygriffin4782
    @andriygriffin4782 Рік тому +15

    This makes so much sense. Loved the first 5 episodes of DMP, so epic yet utterly terrifying and suspenseful like the first Dalek story. But then Ep 6-11 become a dull remake of the Chase and I start tuning out until Ep 12, where the tension resumes. My sympathy with Dennis & Co having to keep this monster going for a quarter of a year

  • @marcelltoing8363
    @marcelltoing8363 Рік тому +3

    The Pyramid story was later used in one of the 60s Dalek annuals

  • @jonahvenables8917
    @jonahvenables8917 Рік тому

    Thank you endlessly for uploading this. I honestly think your videos are some of the best indepth, interesting and understanding on UA-cam. This is such an excitement to see after a long hard day. You are my saviour!!!

  • @Lumibear.
    @Lumibear. Рік тому

    Brilliant as always, thank you, you wonderful people.

  • @Neil070
    @Neil070 Рік тому +3

    At 4:14, that guy on the right looks very familiar....the people of Ukraine would see similarities between him and the Daleks....

  • @reviewsbyelaine4902
    @reviewsbyelaine4902 Рік тому +1

    Another amazing episode! Well done! 👍🏻

  • @diverguy3556
    @diverguy3556 Рік тому +3

    That was wonderful! Keep up the good work Gav!

  • @horrorstew3577
    @horrorstew3577 Рік тому

    Greatly appreciated 🙏
    I actually requested this video 😁 That's service to your fanbase at its finest.
    Have you considered a video covering the original history of the Daleks in comics ?

  • @LukeNyul
    @LukeNyul Рік тому

    Excellent video guys! Learnt a lot about The Dalek's Master Plan and it makes me long for more of the missing episodes of this story to turn up! Though I do think having it as 12 parts was way too much of a stretch!

  • @KarlWitsman
    @KarlWitsman Рік тому

    I can't believe that I wasn't subscribed before, but I am now. Your videos always contain such great research and information. Thank you.

  • @differous01
    @differous01 Рік тому +1

    I have no memory of agent Walton [5:07], but I do remember the Brigadier: seems Nation got his story out by promoting Nicholas Courtney's character from spy to head of UNIT.

    • @MrBulky992
      @MrBulky992 Рік тому +2

      That may be because the character's name was changed to Brett Vyon. He was killed by his sister, Sarah Kingdom.

  • @Tomalak
    @Tomalak Рік тому

    Another great video! Very impressive recon sections with the Chen, the Monk and Trantis too!

  • @MONTY-YTNOM
    @MONTY-YTNOM Рік тому +1

    Why did they think a candle stick on top of that 'space helmet' would look good :)

  • @yamimatt5110
    @yamimatt5110 Рік тому

    I love every time a video of this series comes out!

  • @mastterby
    @mastterby Рік тому +16

    God I don’t think it’s possible to convey how much I ADORE this series. Every time I see a new episode come out it’s so exciting!

    • @Dalek6388
      @Dalek6388  Рік тому +3

      Glad you enjoy them all!

    • @daniiele9340
      @daniiele9340 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Dalek6388 👍 👍 👍 good 👍 👌 😋 😎 👏 😀 👍 👌 😋 😎 👏 xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx

  • @DalekDecimus
    @DalekDecimus Рік тому

    Excellent video!

  • @brucemai1429
    @brucemai1429 Рік тому +1

    I guess i didn't know that some footage was colorized. And that's the first time I've seen Sarah Kingdom in color, as well.

  • @paulashe61
    @paulashe61 Рік тому

    Well done

  • @theonewhowatches869
    @theonewhowatches869 Рік тому +1

    I've always thought that Dardis would work as an in-universe nickname, a bit of wordplay that people besides the Daleks use to describe their timeship. Of course the number of characters familiar enough with both the Tardis and Dardis to make that word play is rather limited.

  • @Comakino
    @Comakino Рік тому +3

    New classic Who, don't mind if I do

  • @richardswift343
    @richardswift343 Рік тому

    Many thanks for another wonderfully crafted slice of Doctor Who detail

  • @coolcoolercoolest212
    @coolcoolercoolest212 Рік тому

    Those recons are tripping me out. Super cool.

  • @Stuart_Cox1969
    @Stuart_Cox1969 Рік тому +3

    Pigbin Josh was not played by Tom Baker, was that just a wee thing to see who was paying attention?

  • @borusa32
    @borusa32 Рік тому +1

    excellent

  • @KeplersDream
    @KeplersDream Рік тому +6

    First time I ever came across the word DARDIS was in a review - or more accurately, a hatchet job - in a 90s Doctor Who Magazine, of The Chase. The author clearly hated everything about the serial; but instead of doing an actual critique, he decided to make oh-so-clever strawman digs at the production and performances (for instance, he misrepresented the Aridians' description of their world as once being a vast ocean as "it was once very wet", and laughed at the ridiculous dialogue).
    The article also referred to the DARDIS as "Daleks Are Rusty Dustbins In Space", and I was puzzled for years because there was no mention of this anywhere outside this article. I knew there's never been an onscreen reference to the name, so the guy was just being an idiot. Now I find out that the name wasn't even in the serial the writer was ridiculing, that goes double.

    • @knshinn2
      @knshinn2 Рік тому

      Or maybe, just maybe, the guy was having fun? Heaven forbid!

    • @MuchWhittering
      @MuchWhittering Рік тому +1

      @@knshinn2 Sounds like he was having anything but fun.

    • @KeplersDream
      @KeplersDream Рік тому +1

      @@knshinn2 No, he was having fun ripping The Chase to shreds. The whole tone of the piece was snotty derision.

  • @billsilver6429
    @billsilver6429 Рік тому +3

    Great video as always. I understand that early on, Vicki was still going to be the female companion in this story. Of course we got two female assistants instead. Both short lived, and destined not to survive.

    • @elseworlds5
      @elseworlds5 Рік тому +1

      And if Vicki had still been the companion, would she have ended up ejected into space or turned to dust? Hardly bears thinking about …

  • @plushiesdx
    @plushiesdx 10 місяців тому +1

    5:00 way to future proof, lol

  • @WhatHandlesAreAvailable
    @WhatHandlesAreAvailable Рік тому +4

    I watched the Daleks master plan yesterday! what a treat this video is! 😁

  • @android65mar
    @android65mar Рік тому +1

    Love this series!

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Рік тому +1

    Dr Who and the Punch-up with the Daleks.

  • @dickiegreenleaf750
    @dickiegreenleaf750 Рік тому +1

    I'm with the other nay sayers about Sara Kingdom being a companion status. Katarina at least was in two stories so she can be counted. It makes absolute no sense to include Sara as a companion.

  • @badwolf9090
    @badwolf9090 Рік тому +4

    Noooooo "UK theatres"?! Another fantastic video as always!

  • @upsidedowncreativechristia4235

    What's with the photo of Tom Baker in Silver Chair?

  • @Jamesalec63
    @Jamesalec63 Рік тому

    Wasn't there a hint of the Master in this series or Davros and maker of the Deleks there was also a similar idea this lead to Unit on Earth and even a lot more than Deleks involvement in the series I think the series did lead to the second doctors stories and his look a like there's definitely something in this idea on Bond with a hint of time bending master mind from at it centre either a time lord rouge like the master or someone else and though not directly related to Doctor Who this did kind of reads as Blake 7 at its core and UFO TV series? Wonder if Blake 7 has a connection to the idea you've been talking about and eventually leads to the Shadow Procrastination idea from RTD?

  • @darrenelkins5923
    @darrenelkins5923 Рік тому

    They may have called it dardis, but they also called the daleks, darleks

  • @SamLowryDZ-015
    @SamLowryDZ-015 Рік тому +1

    Pigbin Josh 🤣🤣🤣

  • @smithpm81
    @smithpm81 Рік тому

    just joined your channel, £5 a month for your content is so cheap, please never stop, i love your uploads so much. Fan since Fury of the deep

    • @Dalek6388
      @Dalek6388  Рік тому

      Thank you Paul. That’s really appreciated!

  • @aarthoor
    @aarthoor Рік тому +1

    I'm curious, you introduce the character Van Hoom, but I recognised him as Mavic Chen. Later on you use the name Mavic Chen, is there another story here?

    • @MrBulky992
      @MrBulky992 Рік тому

      Was the original script not being described which had different character names from what went out originally?

    • @aarthoor
      @aarthoor Рік тому

      @@MrBulky992 Possibly. It's not impossible that I dozed off.

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfield Рік тому +2

    That initial sherial shounds intriguing

  • @ianmcpherson3615
    @ianmcpherson3615 Рік тому

    Tom Baker was in 'The Claws of Axis'? 🙂

  • @phonotical
    @phonotical Рік тому +3

    Is that opening image coloured, it looks weird, all over the place...
    Masterplan will always be a weird story, specially as we will never, ever, get to see it all, I also think Masterplan is what totally murdered dalekmania...
    Hey, Sara's name could be a code name too, just as James bond isn't 007s real name 😜

    • @horrorstew3577
      @horrorstew3577 Рік тому

      The survived episodes have all been colourised and they are available for free on public domain

    • @phonotical
      @phonotical Рік тому +1

      @@horrorstew3577 no they haven't and none of it is public domain, just because someone sticks it online doesn't means it's legal.

  • @TheCyberman1966
    @TheCyberman1966 Рік тому

    Ok I have to ask what did you mean by *adventures in Africa can be rewarding* I feel like I’m missing something there

  • @kennybacchus4305
    @kennybacchus4305 Рік тому +1

    Like daleke spy thriller the original master plan

  • @pistoncraft
    @pistoncraft Рік тому

    I'm just curious, what is the name of the song used in your intro, it has bugged me since I started watching

    • @Dalek6388
      @Dalek6388  Рік тому

      Its the incidental music from Death to the Daleks set to a 'Seven Nation Army' style 😀

    • @pistoncraft
      @pistoncraft Рік тому

      @@Dalek6388 thanks so much, I've always wondered

  • @henrykujawa4427
    @henrykujawa4427 Місяць тому

    I've often felt most DOCTOR WHO 6-parters were really 4-parters painfully padded out to 6. (The Tom Baker era finally fixed this by turning them into combination 4+2, 2+4, or, 2+2+2.) The Jon Pertwee "Frontier In Space" was, I felt, the best-structured of all his longer stories, having only as its main fault, that it led into "Planet of the Daleks", which is boring as hell for its entire length. Looked at that way, WHO had 2 different 12-parters with Daleks, where the 2 parts don't even feel like they're really connected.

  • @blackphoenix77
    @blackphoenix77 Рік тому +1

    Shame that The Dalek's Master Plan is, aside from the audio, almost entirely missing.

    • @zxbzxbzxb1
      @zxbzxbzxb1 Рік тому

      3 episodes exist so it's done better than Troughtons dalek stories but more would have been amazing.

  • @MarceldeJong
    @MarceldeJong Рік тому

    What did the props department do with those props? Eat them? So many of these episodes tell us that “the prop was damaged”

    • @Dalek6388
      @Dalek6388  Рік тому

      They went out to public events etc and weren’t treated that well!

  • @mycatsdead
    @mycatsdead Рік тому +1

    spooner used the bomb in the champions

  • @DrBagPhD
    @DrBagPhD Рік тому

    Incredible research and fascinating content as always

  • @marcse7en
    @marcse7en Рік тому +1

    Unbelievable that the Doctor Who script referred to the iconic evil pepperpots as a, "Darlek!"
    👍0 👎 0 🗨️ 0

  • @rogerlynch5279
    @rogerlynch5279 Рік тому

    This dxaple demonstrates how much the British TV and Movie projects can see Eye to Eye with the American ones. and howfr reaching the influence of the British ones is.
    Just think at the TV show UFO. That pilot comes over nowdays like a prequel of the Computer Game XCOM ENEMY UNKNOWN ( compare on UA-cam UFO: BIRTH OF SHADOW by FansweaonUDO )

  • @thegorgon7063
    @thegorgon7063 Рік тому

    4:14 how did he manage to snag Putin for the show?

  • @himynameisben95
    @himynameisben95 Рік тому

    16:05 the Dalek would be bricked up?! 😳😩💦

  • @wirralnomad
    @wirralnomad Рік тому

    Pigbin Josh lmao.

  • @brianartillery
    @brianartillery Рік тому

    'Pigbin Josh' looks awfully like Tom Baker. Or is that Derek Ware in a brilliant John Friedlander prosthetic making him look like Tom Baker in a peculiar hat? 🤔🤔🤔 😆😆😆😆😆

  • @owenrichards1418
    @owenrichards1418 Рік тому +4

    Terry Nation? 'Borrowing' ideas from elsewhere? Say it ain't so!!!

  • @radishdalek
    @radishdalek Рік тому +1

    16:39 - is this still images turned into moving footage?

  • @Eltonlaleham
    @Eltonlaleham Рік тому +4

    I think in billions of ways Dalek Masterplan should have been a six part serial like it was originally intended to be .I say the idea of doubling the episode length from 6 parts to 12 parts was stupid in billions and trillions of ways

  • @sensiblename295
    @sensiblename295 Рік тому +1

    The earliest storyline I have ever seen for DMP featuring Banhoong was already 12 episodes long, not six.

  • @shireknight01
    @shireknight01 Рік тому +1

    You skipped over something interesting there. If Terry nation was commissioned to write a six part serial and then at the last minute asked to double its length to 12 episodes, then it must mean that it was because someone else had been commissioned to write a six part serial to follow Daleks Masterplan but something went wrong with it, what was that story and what happened with it/to it?

    • @acestjohn7861
      @acestjohn7861 Рік тому

      I believe the doubling if episodes was partly because the director general of the BBC said that his mother (or mother n law?) Loved the Daleks. This was why they increased the number of episodes

    • @shireknight01
      @shireknight01 Рік тому

      @@acestjohn7861 Is that actually true?

  • @garybryant1501
    @garybryant1501 Рік тому +1

    D Daleks
    A After
    R Roaming
    D Doctor
    I In
    S Space

  • @johnlarro6872
    @johnlarro6872 Рік тому +4

    Why was the decision made to double the story? War Games for example was a script/s falling through... but there was no explanation here. Was it a fallen through script too, or was it the desire to have more Dalek episodes given their popularity? Shame they didn't just make it 2 individual stories...

    • @markwardel6751
      @markwardel6751 Рік тому +2

      Apparently the wife of the BBC controller was a big Dalek fan and so the command for "more Daleks" came down from on high.

    • @endofthelane1
      @endofthelane1 Рік тому +2

      It stemmed from the internal Programme Review Board meeting on 26 May 1965, a few days after The Chase had started on television. In discussing the episode Huw Wheldon (the BBC's Television Managing Director) said that every effort should be made to include more of the Daleks in the series. This was noted by Sydney Newman who requested, via the Head of Serials, Gerald Savory, that the new Dalek story planned to go into production should be expanded from six episodes to twelve.

  • @richardmattocks
    @richardmattocks Рік тому +2

    DARDIS might not be canon, but I’m always going to believe that Brett is actually The Brigadier on a secret mission and his “death” was all a ruse. 😎

  • @JoeBackes
    @JoeBackes Рік тому

    You meant to say, "the 1964 prop" not "the 1984 prop." And why are you showing a photo of Tom Baker as a character, I think you said, "Pigpin Josh," in "The Claws of Axis?" Tom Baker was not in the "Claws of Axos" or any Dr. Who until he was cast in the title role replacing Jon Pertwee. Pigpin Josh was actually played by stuntman Derek Ware.

    • @Dalek6388
      @Dalek6388  Рік тому +3

      The prop was used originally in an adaptation of George Orwell's '1984' so therefore its correct to say 'the 1984 prop'. The Tom Baker image is joke.

  • @TheStorrman
    @TheStorrman Рік тому

    1. Ncuti is the 15th Doctor
    2. The Doctor doesn’t have an “appearance” he has a companion

  • @cyberleaderandy1
    @cyberleaderandy1 Рік тому +21

    Im not surprised that the bbc deliberately sabotaged another series. It seems typical of the sort of infighting, childishness and jealousy that still exists.

  • @GariSullivan
    @GariSullivan Рік тому +8

    Great video, but I think it's a bit sad that you use the term "UK theatres" when you mean "UK cinemas". Why do that? A UK theatre is where you go to see a play not a film.
    Please don't try to be American. There is nothing wrong with using British English.

    • @badwolf9090
      @badwolf9090 Рік тому +3

      Completely agree!

    • @hgwells1899
      @hgwells1899 Рік тому +4

      When really it's The Pictures;)

    • @GariSullivan
      @GariSullivan Рік тому

      @@hgwells1899 I stand corrected :)

    • @MuchWhittering
      @MuchWhittering Рік тому +1

      For what it's worth, my local theatre does actually show old films in the evenings when no plays are currently open.

  • @HashbrownMashup
    @HashbrownMashup Рік тому

    Please don't ever use emojis again.

  • @KarlAdamsAudio
    @KarlAdamsAudio Рік тому +1

    Excellent work, as ever. Also 0:46 Pilot E95s