The way all NCT members get called during live video’s, texted etc and have so many sasaengs outside their dorm is insane, I always worry about their safety and well being. Even Suju’s Kyuhyun said when he walked by he was shocked at how many people were waiting there all the time
@@lucyblair8667 Yuta did that because he thought when he waved his hand to saesang the staff will take action against those who attended the event but when he lowered his hand, he was obviously angry not only with some of saesang to the staff as well
@Xiao Dejun Maybe they saw the saesangs but they just didn't want to act because even if the windows are upstairs, the windows are fragile, even if the staffs are downstairs, they can really see the saesangs it is impossible for the staff not to see Yuta, Jeno and Haechan who saw the saesangs
I was about to say the same... like how is that even possible that she 1. Got on the stage and 2. Had SO MUCH TIME to touch him before anybody came to help him. I’ve seen a lot of videos of fans getting to the stage but usually there’s security right away. Honestly so scary, luckily she did not hurt him.
@Emily Bellis honestly i wish they checked well. I’ve been to many concerts and people trust security too much. As a security officer at the airport (i know how people hide knives, they can be sneaky af) I’m saying that these checks they do at the door before you enter, don’t really do much for anybody’s safety. It’s just for the look. 😶
She could've brought a knife even if she wasn't an anti-fan, if she was one of those sasaengs that would hurt the idols or themselves, she could've bought a knife.
This is disgusting! Imagine if you were an idol and your group disbanded and you just want to live your life but then there's sasaeng fans still coming for you...
@@aadhiablink9469 a male sasaeng literally got on stage and tried to kidnapp taeyeon. There's also been other male sasaengs following other snsd members home
Don't you know about the taeyeon (from snsd) event. She was performing on the stage and a man came up on the stage and proceeded to drag her away but fortunately the staff and a fellow member were able to stop him.
@@anooshehkamran6296 there was a male sesang fan who always follow twice naeyeon where ever she go he even followed from one country to another country .
But SHINee Taemin says that in Latin America, it’s a thing. Concert goers would even bring an extra just for throwing to the stage. My point being, while throwing things at people shouldn’t be done in general, some things can also be cultural (meaning, it's less of a psycho crazy motivation).
@@delisyus how could be that an cultural thing? 💀💀💀. I'm a latina myself and I can tell you that is not an cultural thing, their manager just told them that so they won't be that disturbed about it.
@@user-ninai06s by cultural, I meant something along the lines of noisily sipping soup as expected/practiced, say, in Japan (or even Korea) but considered impolite from where I am. That bra-throwers may not necessarily be sasaengs or crazy fans, even if throwing things shouldn't be done. If you say it isn't actually a thing Latina fans normally do though, then I thank you for the correction.
That time when Lucas talking about 'something' just one glance then the whole group knew what he's talking about as he was acting like he wanna punch someone is iconic😂
Honestly, the Chenle one gave me chills. The fact that they wrote it in their own blood. And NCT’s sasaengs are really bad. Like Yuta and Jeno waved at a sasaeng during their Pizza Party vlive where the sasaeng was in the vent
@@marshasimpson3087 yes he did..there is a video of it..she tried to kiss Suga , but Suga pushed her a bit [ off course not that hard ] , then their guard came to rescue..I really wished Suga kicked/punched or pushed her hard..Even tho I know he would never do it..
@@catnyangzz Thats another reason to not do it, if when he was young something happened that included blood, he would be traumatized, NCT saesengs are too much, they don't privacy
The Chenle one srsly scared me. Like??? he's 19??? Imagine how scared he'd be, and the fact Sm couldn't even Sue her is terrible like srsly it's so scary and disturbing.
Heechul had so much trauma at that time that he doesn’t even open his curtains nor windows because he’s scared that he might be seen by sasaengs.....im proud of heechul that he’s recovering from that trauma! Thank you for that show, he is getting more confidence and peace...
This is why I don't use the word STAN. The original song from which it is taken is STAN by Eminem (featuring Dido). Where he wrote about a male fan whose name was STAN who was overly possessive and felt snubbed twice. He drowned himself in a car with his pregnant screaming wife in the trunk. The fact is Eminem was busy and signed the hubcap for Stan's little brother along with a sincere apology letter. While writing the letter he begins to tell Stan that he was watching a fatal drowning incident on the news. He concludes the song and letter when he realized the news report was about his male fan STAN. That is a (male) Sasaeng. I am a fan or a multi fan or a (fandom name) but not a stan.
@@taro9114 The word “Stan” as a noun and not a pronoun is the combination of the words STalker fAN. The word as it is used now exists thanks to Eminem as the OP states. He used it as the existing name because it could be a name that combined those words which described the character in the song.
One thing that has always been terrifying to me is the stalking (too many idol's to name), kidnapping (ex: Vixx, Lee Bon etc) and attempted kidnapping (ex: EXO, Taeyeon/SNSD & Kwon Nara/Hello Venus etc) of idols. It's happened quite a few times and it's something that could turn out to be particularly dangerous with the amount of deranged and delusional saesangs out there. I'm surprised it's not talked about more than it is tbh. On a happier note though this was a great video with excellent research. I've subscribed and look forward to seeing this channel grow!!
Few more 1) 2 saseangs were waiting infront of baekhyun's apartment, not even the building. He said it was so scary cuz it's not possible to see the lift and which floor he lives in from outside 2) bambam had to shift apartment for saseangs 3) Haechan called out saseangs on his birthday and they were not happy about it so they linked photo of him being drank 4) saseangs keep calling nct, got7 and exo members. As disgusting as it sounds they even sold their private infos online. What more the dreamie members were just kids up until now. 5) a lady would always follow wayV on planes 6) Luhan (ex exo member) was followed but a lady by taxi and he got mad, still kept is composer. Saying it dangerous and scolded the lady. What I don't get is the lady was crying, like WHAT- dude seriously your the one at fault 7) stole about 30 copies of wayV album at a fansign 8) jin got mobbed. The group of people were apologizing for doing it before he got off the car but they mobbed him anyways after he got off -____- 9) skz spotify fan event was a mess. The boys were so professional. (Chan is scary, don't tick him off) 10) recently jype came out with a statement saying they will legal action against people who invade skz's privacy (cuz lately that his happen) 11) a female idol was getting dragged off the stage by a dude (forgot who she was). It looked sooo scary 12) nct been mobbed sooo many times on there north american tour 13) a twice member's number was linked my a maniac dude. (I forgot which member she was, probably mina or nayeon. Plz let me know who I'll correct it) It's amazing how the idols still keeps their composer. Not gonna lie nctzen, ahgase and stays are my favorite FANDOM. But these saseangs just ruined it all. (Army, exoL and blinks became so toxic)
I’ve seen the BTS one where they were all in a hotel room and behind them there’s a hand in the doorway holding a phone. Someone said that it wasn’t a sasaeng and that BigHit released a statement saying it was a company staff (maybe their female videographer) who didn’t realize the boys were filming. I don’t know if it’s true.
@@carl859 That was a company staff..My aunt is an insider and she was in the room just opposite to where the BTS members where filming their Vlives..She said that its IMPOSSIBLE for an outsider to go to BTS's room or even enter the hotel in the first place..there are guards/staffs EVERYWHERE , There were many guards standing outside BTS's hotel room..and the staff actually wanted to go to someone else's room but by mistake got into BTS's room..some army's without any proof said that was a saesang when she was clearly not..
@@lovelybangtan108 That was a company staff..My aunt is an insider and she was in the room just opposite to where the BTS members where filming their Vlives..She said that its IMPOSSIBLE for an outsider to go to BTS's room or even enter the hotel in the first place..there are guards/staffs EVERYWHERE , There were many guards standing outside BTS's hotel room..and the staff actually wanted to go to someone else's room but by mistake got into BTS's room..some army's without any proof said that was a saesang when she was clearly not..Do u really think they wouldn't lock their door if they knew that even outsiders are there in the hotel or in that floor? there was no one other than Bighit staffs with them..They could see the girl through the camera/phone which they are using to film..if it actually was a saesang they would have immediately looked back and did something..
I can think about all of these but ,throwing things ....is really disgusting , like a idol is not safe even on the stage 💔💔💔 Kpop idol's life is a heaven but a curse at a same time 💔💔
This is all horrible, but Chenle's case hits me because I'm a Czennie. I've watched a ton of Nct's lives, and they're always being harassed by sasaengs either by phone or with their presence outside their dorms or on sets. I really hope Chenle's case gets looked at since he's on the younger side. No one deserves to be treated this way. T^T
I think the most scary is throwing out sharp or heavy things at idols, and also being followed and stalked or hacked for example the no pants girl who stalks BTS but stopped, like they okay love them but you are hurting your loved ones and making them hate you for example just put yourself on their place, and imagine someone stalking you or sharing your private info and putting you endanger, it will sure make you mentally and physically not good, and that's torturing, I'm sure idols who are experienced to this many times could have a trauma or getting used to that
love comes with respect. if you really love someone and what they do, learn to respect them. us stans and people who are in fandoms have respect, so if you don't have that, don't dare to associate yourself with any fandom!!
Really and they call themselves "fans" ofc without the knowledge of its real meaning... It's quite normal to be crazy over your fav person but stalking them until they feel embarrassed, uneasy and fed up and legal action has to be taken that's a no no man Also the video is nicely made 👌
some fans really forget that *they are fans* nothing else. you are *fans* understand that. your idol isn’t waiting for you, your idol isn’t in love with you, your a fan. remember that. yes your idol is a happy that your a fan but that’s all they aren’t gonna be like “omg i’ve been in love with you and your my true love” like no
In order to protect a phone number phone companies need to check their employees. Korea needs to do better. It took people being murdered/or nearly murdered for the US to take stuff like this seriously and most people are not celebrities who similar stuff like this happen to.
Oh my god, sasaengs are so scary like please don't do any of that to our dear idols--and especially don't scare or threaten them!!!! It hurts to see that idols not only have to face mistreatment, criticism, hate, overwork, and now they also have to deal with crazy fans. Idols need to be wayyyyyy more respected!!!
Not K-pop related but Harry (& the entire 1D )got so many stuff thrown at him,now he has a superpower to catch to anything thrown at him. But,yeah Fans should stop throwing stuff at idols,they could get seriously hurt.
nothing comes close to TVXQ's stalking. Jaejoong had a fan break into his bedroom, and takig pics of him while he was asleep (and doing who knows what else), and they had ALL of these incidents in this video happen to them for years.
Please people need to solve this idols are doing everything for us working so hard all day long just to satisfy fans and some obsessive fans can't even respect their privacy. It's seriously so disturbing.
The WORST incident was an idol who drank orange juice from a fan at a fan meet. The juice had Super Glue in it. As a result, he was hospitalized in serious condition for several months or longer and it was unsure of his full recovery. To this date, he cannot drink orange juice. Another serious incident was Jackson of GOT7 getting injured because of a car chase or something caused by Sasaengs. Another idol was chased in a taxi and the idol was seen on camera angry at the Sasaengs and pulling one of them out of the car because of the danger they caused to others and himself. Also not the first incident where taxi drivers chased him and dangerously violating traffic laws. He calmed down and asked the same taxi driver to take them safely home. I am not sure but I think he even paid the taxi driver to take them safely home.
Them sasaengs should realize that doing all of this will only make the K-pop idols to think bad of them. And only increase fear towards the fandom. They can't give 1 million+ fans 100% attention all the time, they're humans too. They can get scared! Sasaengs are sooo scary especially for male idols. (the orange juice one tho-- was the "fan" a hater or what?? Did she think it was funny? Who would give ANYONE super glue in orange juice?!)
@@dizzycherry6475 That was a Sasaeng as their motto is good or bad it is still getting to their idol and publicity. In the western world we have sasaeng but more in form of stalkers or worst incident were the killing of Versace and John Lennon. There was even one that hid in Michael Jackson's bedroom.
@@pamelatan7606 Thank you for the idol's name. I wasn't sure and did not want to give out false information. He was on a show where he spoke about it and even had film clips to show that he still feared orange juice. He actually did not press charges if I remember correctly.
@@joellelenniger yep he didnt press any charges because the women surrendered to the police. It was so long ago but I never forget about this news because its so scary...
Which did I find disturbing? Ummm, how about ALL of them? And 30 years old and doing this stuff? Get a life, or better yet, a cat. It isn't some movie like Pretty Woman where the idol is going to fall in love with you out of the blue and sweep you off of your feet. Good grief.
I don't mean to offend, but please, you're a kpop channel, pronounce things correctly. It's Jungkook, not Jungkoo, Chenle, not Chenel, and Sasaeng, not saesang. Saesang means world and it took me way too long to realise you were talking about NCT's Chenle.
NCT’s sasaengs are getting out of control. Almost every livestream etc., the members are ALWAYS called by a random number. Renjun tried to expose a sasaengs number on live so they would stop calling. Jeno got called by a sasaeng and Renjun immediately grabbed his phone and blocked the number. When Jeno gets called by a sasaeng, the other dreamies always grab his phone so Jeno must’ve had a lot of sasaeng problems then and he and the other members still do now.
I don't understand what goes on in their minds psychologically.Like do they feel like idols belong to them or do they become so obsessive over these idols in the name of love? I'm seriously confused here guyzz!!
I think the severe cases are psychopaths, and the ones that try to get their phone numbers and stuff are too obsessed and have psychopath tendencies. That's what I think.
chen-le was an under age at that time when that happened and it was said that 45+ aged woman was his sasaeng that was always strolling around the place that chenle stayed it's so scary
This is really disgusting! Why don't they understand that the idols are also human beings. If they think themselves as their fan, then they should not stalk their idols and disturb their private space. It's really scary!
You have to be pretty messed up to think a person, anyone really, is gonna see your psycho behaviour and think to themselves ‘ah yes blood letters and excessive screeching - that is the girl for me! who wants shared hobbies and inside jokes when you can have getting arrested at Changi airport instead? that’s true love!’ These people need help.
This honestly makes me really disturbed and sad to see and hear what some people would do to these idols, I really feel for all idols who have to go through any of these incidents 😞
I am so scared for the idols imagine a stalker falling you and hacking thier private information must be really scary, those people are really really crazy and insane it's like privacy does not exist to them..gosh I am really worry about all the idols safety because those people are crazy and scary..this is what happens when u become very famous people will start to go crazy for them and I am so terrified to think about it..but I am so kinda proud of how the idols deal with this crazy people but also worry about them and for thier safety those crazy people will do anything to get close to thier idol by stalking and hacking into thier personal information..that's crazy and I mean crazy people 😳
Honestly I don't know how they get so hyped like that. I might be too lazy but seriously, just thinking about all the thing you need to do as a saseang is quite tiring. It's horrible for the idol and I'm here wondering why did they choose to become an idol since it was a fact that saseang exist lol. So in a way to me, idols are pretty strong minded already. In whoever case I try to imagine, I just think both life are tiring as hell.
@@TakaS013 it may be true that it's not super rare for some people to get kpop idols numbers, but don't say "just ask" those sasaengs cuz some ppl might do it and fall into it
@@LILI-um6ej what I've said doesn't promote anything, or telling anyone to do anything. What I've said simply goes off of saying how easy it is to get anyone's information, but you have to pay to get any information from a sasaeng.
The part about stuff being thrown at idols during concerts makes me so fucking mad. How stupid you gotta be to do that?! This is why I'm glad we have the pandemic, no more physical contact from idols to fans, I always hate all sorts of fan interactions.
You're right this does need to be stopped but will it? Sadly no. The only things that can be done is to protect the idols more, but that causes the idols to become more distant to fans ... The fans that are the worst are EXTREMELY obsessive (obviously) its almost or rather is a OCD complex. If more fans paid attention to one another (like a lot of Fandoms do now) we can not only stop this obsessive, dangerous behavior but also get those people help.
let them live peacefully ....being a fan doesnt mean ppl can disturb their private life ...its so scary but atleast these days such things have reduced
Alas, it is nothing new. Throughout years and fields (music, cinema, sports, politics,...), you find some admirers who become obsessed. And among them, you have those who suffer from erotomania. My first memories of obsessive fans were a documentary around fans of the Beatles. In my country there was a famous singer who died more than 40 years. He had cohorts of obsessive fans who followed him everywhere, ripped his clothes, threw their underwear at him, waited for him in his hotel room, waited for him in front of his house... He was forced to hid the fact that he had a partner and two sons. When he died accidentally, some fans tried to end their lives, some throwing themselves in the river.
And even in 2022, in recent vlive JK was still getting many prank calls while being on live....like imagine how many he might be getting offcam....This really creeps me out!!! THESE TOXIC PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY BE PUNISHED
that was scarry situation when bts was arriwed to airport that there was so much paparazzis and fans and push thrue. Then Jimin falled down, poor baby. dont they think about idol att all. after that Jimin doesnt often walk alone in airport. These are sad incidents.
BeBoss TV about the incident of the sasaeng fan trying to kiss jungkook. There was actually an other incident that an sasaeng fan was trying to kiss BTS Suga but the army's were:"yah yah what are you doing" but luckily the security was there and took the sasaeng fan
This creeps me out it literally gave me chills I instantly remember when Dongwoo( INFINITE) was pulled from his leg by crazy fans and Sungkyu( LEADER) had to forcefully pull Dongwoo towards him and get him away from that crazy "fan" or when SHINee Jonghyun discovered a girl inside his bedroom's closet and she ran out with his underwear , or when 2PM's Taecyeon received a letter made from puvic hair and menstrual blood.
I remember skz were doing a live, I think 3rd year anniversary one(?), and everyone was having fun and one of them suddenly got a call and said, "... it's an international number" Bro the way the whole mood shifted like😭😭
This is so scary. If fans truly love their idols, respect them and their privacy. A persons home is the most sacred place where they can feel comfortable and content in their own place. I don’t understand why fans would want to scare them to show them love. And the noona fans are giving us older fans a bad name! I didn’t know women my age were conducting themselves like that! Sad.
it leaves me to wonder... what goes on inside their head? like SERIOUSLY how in their right mind would they think anything they did is even slightly okay?
Many of things things as fans doing is appreciated and make to look cool by some ppl.. Maximum in Hollywood... Flashing, throwing bras, or other things
Serious action should be taken against saesang by the government like cyber crime should be more strict if a person follows an an idols they should be immediately arrested until and unless government steps in this creepy thing can never stop
The most creepy is getting there information and calling, texting, and going to there house. Like can they not have at least 1% of respect for there idols?!
They should install a mosquito net or something around the stage to stop stuff from being thrown at the idols. Taking Back Sunday did this at a festival. Smart move. Also, they should always heighten security on stage when fans try to jump it. Who knows what kinda weapon they might have.
About the pic of a Saseang behind BTS looking through the door, tbh I think it was a staff or another member. I saw another vid where someone explained it but I'm not sure, it was something like that. If it's not please respect Idols privacy for theirs and your own safety. 💜
It wasnt mentioned but the whole cut for cookie hashtag that went around in 2016 was very disturbing as well as one sasaeng fan who broke into an idols room and defecated on his floor (I can't remember the idols name)
The way all NCT members get called during live video’s, texted etc and have so many sasaengs outside their dorm is insane, I always worry about their safety and well being. Even Suju’s Kyuhyun said when he walked by he was shocked at how many people were waiting there all the time
also have u seen how NCT literally had sasaengs in the vents, like Yuta literally waved at one of them and there were also cameras in the lights
@@lucyblair8667 Yuta did that because he thought when he waved his hand to saesang the staff will take action against those who attended the event but when he lowered his hand, he was obviously angry not only with some of saesang to the staff as well
@@gracekyut9138 yeah i know
@Xiao Dejun Maybe they saw the saesangs but they just didn't want to act because even if the windows are upstairs, the windows are fragile, even if the staffs are downstairs, they can really see the saesangs it is impossible for the staff not to see Yuta, Jeno and Haechan who saw the saesangs
And the incident with a tour bus
that case with GD is scary, what if she was not a sasaeng but an antifan and she brought a knife with her :((
😲😲😲
I was about to say the same... like how is that even possible that she 1. Got on the stage and 2. Had SO MUCH TIME to touch him before anybody came to help him. I’ve seen a lot of videos of fans getting to the stage but usually there’s security right away. Honestly so scary, luckily she did not hurt him.
@Emily Bellis honestly i wish they checked well. I’ve been to many concerts and people trust security too much. As a security officer at the airport (i know how people hide knives, they can be sneaky af) I’m saying that these checks they do at the door before you enter, don’t really do much for anybody’s safety. It’s just for the look. 😶
Emily Bellis, They do but people can find a way
She could've brought a knife even if she wasn't an anti-fan, if she was one of those sasaengs that would hurt the idols or themselves, she could've bought a knife.
Man people really are going crazy. If you love your idol, learn to respect them and their privacy too
Preach
I agree
This was the best video for justice of idols
This is disgusting! Imagine if you were an idol and your group disbanded and you just want to live your life but then there's sasaeng fans still coming for you...
Some idols were SaSaengs of other idols... >.> so who knows...
Disgusting
Oh God....
That will be bts in a few years
Not only girls but all should stop these all non sense...
Idols have their own life too...
There is not much news about boys bullying female idol. Mostly there will be threat messages but that too always a fake acc
@@aadhiablink9469 no there's actual male sasaengs too, like the ones that follow idols from a country to another and the ones that get on stage
@@aadhiablink9469 a male sasaeng literally got on stage and tried to kidnapp taeyeon. There's also been other male sasaengs following other snsd members home
but...
most of the cases were females.
horny female fans are so scary.
@@oiily9099if you compare the amount of male saesangs with female saesangs, then the female saesangs would outnumber the male saesangs
Sasaengs don’t even realize it but they are MAD SCARY TO KPOP IDOLS
They do realize that but they don't care
I wonder what male sasaengs do if they even exist
Me too
Don't you know about the taeyeon (from snsd) event.
She was performing on the stage and a man came up on the stage and proceeded to drag her away but fortunately the staff and a fellow member were able to stop him.
@drunk -_- betch what happened to her?
@@anooshehkamran6296 there was a male sesang fan who always follow twice naeyeon where ever she go he even followed from one country to another country .
@@youarepity8408 oh yeah yeah, I have heard about him, he's currently banned from entering Korea or something, right?
We should protect our idols idols are also human beings at least we should protect their privacy
I'm asking out of interest, what this would look like?
When Seokjin got a bra thrown at his head , he just stared at the crowd ,lmao those armys are prob dead rn
Wait wtf
Saesangs are crazy
But SHINee Taemin says that in Latin America, it’s a thing. Concert goers would even bring an extra just for throwing to the stage. My point being, while throwing things at people shouldn’t be done in general, some things can also be cultural (meaning, it's less of a psycho crazy motivation).
@@delisyus textbook case of "just because its your culture, doesn't mean it's okay and it doesn't mean you get a free pass"
@@delisyus how could be that an cultural thing? 💀💀💀. I'm a latina myself and I can tell you that is not an cultural thing, their manager just told them that so they won't be that disturbed about it.
@@user-ninai06s by cultural, I meant something along the lines of noisily sipping soup as expected/practiced, say, in Japan (or even Korea) but considered impolite from where I am. That bra-throwers may not necessarily be sasaengs or crazy fans, even if throwing things shouldn't be done.
If you say it isn't actually a thing Latina fans normally do though, then I thank you for the correction.
That time when Lucas talking about 'something' just one glance then the whole group knew what he's talking about as he was acting like he wanna punch someone is iconic😂
Yess, he said "I love our fans but not all of them"
Honestly, the Chenle one gave me chills. The fact that they wrote it in their own blood. And NCT’s sasaengs are really bad. Like Yuta and Jeno waved at a sasaeng during their Pizza Party vlive where the sasaeng was in the vent
They did something to yuta today I hate it
@@saisai3233 what?
@@malikes4591 THAT OLD LADY SASAENG STALKING YUTA ANG TAKING SOME VIDS TO THEIR DORM AND YUTA GAVE HER A MIDDLE FINGER...
@@saisai3233 Omg?? Fr?? Can you send me a link?
@@malikes4591 I don't have one... You can search yuta's name in Twitter
Lol they are not fans they are stalkers who are so obsessed with them.. It's so scary, 😔😔
Recent NCT blue room really got me boiling... seriously yuta waved to a sasaeng who was hiding in the vents! And the staff did nothing!
Same....there were tons of them and the staff didn't do anything
Dude, that’s creepy af. Like SM security staff are terrible at their jobs.
Which blueroom was that? :o
@@betharramrojas8051 the twitter one
@@betharramrojas8051 work it unit
Who knows when a sasaeng tried to kiss Suga 🤢😷😖😡
Ikr😬😬😬
WHEN THE EFF???!!!
SHE TRY TO DO WHAT KNOW OH HELL NO!?!??!!?!?!?!😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😬😬😬😬😬😬✋✋✋👁👄👁✋✋✋
Yes😡😡
@@marshasimpson3087 yes he did..there is a video of it..she tried to kiss Suga , but Suga pushed her a bit [ off course not that hard ] , then their guard came to rescue..I really wished Suga kicked/punched or pushed her hard..Even tho I know he would never do it..
most disturbing is getting physically close to idols
Why was Baekhyun's incident where sasaengs crashed his older brother's wedding is not included?
That was hella crazy
There’s another one, in which he screamed at one at the airport, not gonna lie, that one was funny as hell
@@arnoldmendoza3907 can you get a link?
Can you imagine coming home and seeing an unknown person saying "hi" !!
And StOp ThRoWiNg ObJeCtS On StAgE
They gettin popped in they mouth no regrets
I saw that sometimes crazy fans throw BRAS on stage!
@@emilymunteanu3571 They do, I seen it in multiple videos
@@emilymunteanu3571 They've been doing that since the beginning of time to Western artists too
I would faint from fear
The girl who wrote a note to Chenle, does she think that he would keep it bruh its blood WTH
and he is still a freaking minor overseas like wth
@@catnyangzz Thats another reason to not do it, if when he was young something happened that included blood, he would be traumatized, NCT saesengs are too much, they don't privacy
@@hamdahmunawwaruzzaman2302 im even worried the word privacy doesnt exist to them
@@catnyangzz True
@@hamdahmunawwaruzzaman2302 i just feel nervous some idols are just minors but i wonder why do they care to get the idols attention
The Chenle one srsly scared me. Like??? he's 19??? Imagine how scared he'd be, and the fact Sm couldn't even Sue her is terrible like srsly it's so scary and disturbing.
NCT's JENO was called over 20 times in a span of 15 minutes . Let's not forget texts too
Saesangs literally tried to kill heechul I cannot stress enough how we need to protect them
They tried to kill Yunho too. Crazy as anything
@@MunkeeFWRrng TVXQ's or ATEEZ's??? Regardless of that, that's fucking sick. Theyre scary.
@@nichidietih4849
TVXQ’s. They poisoned him with glue in his orange juice.
Wait- how did they try and kill Heechul?! What did they do?!?!
@@MunkeeFWRrng that made me so angry even though it was years ago. How messed up does someone have to be?!
And males aren’t considered rape victims in South Korea
That sucks:(
How is that related? Stalking isn't rape.
@@largefries273 it’s still an issue involving males in south korea. why you pressed?
@@jamiecisfemalesheher5250 pressed what?
Heechul had so much trauma at that time that he doesn’t even open his curtains nor windows because he’s scared that he might be seen by sasaengs.....im proud of heechul that he’s recovering from that trauma! Thank you for that show, he is getting more confidence and peace...
This is why I don't use the word STAN. The original song from which it is taken is STAN by Eminem (featuring Dido). Where he wrote about a male fan whose name was STAN who was overly possessive and felt snubbed twice. He drowned himself in a car with his pregnant screaming wife in the trunk. The fact is Eminem was busy and signed the hubcap for Stan's little brother along with a sincere apology letter. While writing the letter he begins to tell Stan that he was watching a fatal drowning incident on the news. He concludes the song and letter when he realized the news report was about his male fan STAN. That is a (male) Sasaeng. I am a fan or a multi fan or a (fandom name) but not a stan.
Actually the word was a name, and now the word stan has kinda changed so you can still use it kinda
@@taro9114 The word “Stan” as a noun and not a pronoun is the combination of the words STalker fAN. The word as it is used now exists thanks to Eminem as the OP states. He used it as the existing name because it could be a name that combined those words which described the character in the song.
@@tkim2320 ik
@@tkim2320 Didn't know the story behind the name. These STANS are real scary.
@@sue7014 it’s not a real life incident though. It’s a song, based on fiction
One thing that has always been terrifying to me is the stalking (too many idol's to name), kidnapping (ex: Vixx, Lee Bon etc) and attempted kidnapping (ex: EXO, Taeyeon/SNSD & Kwon Nara/Hello Venus etc) of idols. It's happened quite a few times and it's something that could turn out to be particularly dangerous with the amount of deranged and delusional saesangs out there. I'm surprised it's not talked about more than it is tbh. On a happier note though this was a great video with excellent research. I've subscribed and look forward to seeing this channel grow!!
Few more
1) 2 saseangs were waiting infront of baekhyun's apartment, not even the building. He said it was so scary cuz it's not possible to see the lift and which floor he lives in from outside
2) bambam had to shift apartment for saseangs
3) Haechan called out saseangs on his birthday and they were not happy about it so they linked photo of him being drank
4) saseangs keep calling nct, got7 and exo members. As disgusting as it sounds they even sold their private infos online. What more the dreamie members were just kids up until now.
5) a lady would always follow wayV on planes
6) Luhan (ex exo member) was followed but a lady by taxi and he got mad, still kept is composer. Saying it dangerous and scolded the lady. What I don't get is the lady was crying, like WHAT- dude seriously your the one at fault
7) stole about 30 copies of wayV album at a fansign
8) jin got mobbed. The group of people were apologizing for doing it before he got off the car but they mobbed him anyways after he got off -____-
9) skz spotify fan event was a mess. The boys were so professional. (Chan is scary, don't tick him off)
10) recently jype came out with a statement saying they will legal action against people who invade skz's privacy (cuz lately that his happen)
11) a female idol was getting dragged off the stage by a dude (forgot who she was). It looked sooo scary
12) nct been mobbed sooo many times on there north american tour
13) a twice member's number was linked my a maniac dude. (I forgot which member she was, probably mina or nayeon. Plz let me know who I'll correct it)
It's amazing how the idols still keeps their composer. Not gonna lie nctzen, ahgase and stays are my favorite FANDOM. But these saseangs just ruined it all.
(Army, exoL and blinks became so toxic)
I’ve seen the BTS one where they were all in a hotel room and behind them there’s a hand in the doorway holding a phone. Someone said that it wasn’t a sasaeng and that BigHit released a statement saying it was a company staff (maybe their female videographer) who didn’t realize the boys were filming. I don’t know if it’s true.
Nope it was a sesang because there was also another one where Tayehung was sexually harassed
@@surbiatahmed4806 sexually harassed? What?
It was a sasaeng for sure. Maybe bighit said that to calm us down
@@carl859 That was a company staff..My aunt is an insider and she was in the room just opposite to where the BTS members where filming their Vlives..She said that its IMPOSSIBLE for an outsider to go to BTS's room or even enter the hotel in the first place..there are guards/staffs EVERYWHERE , There were many guards standing outside BTS's hotel room..and the staff actually wanted to go to someone else's room but by mistake got into BTS's room..some army's without any proof said that was a saesang when she was clearly not..
@@lovelybangtan108 That was a company staff..My aunt is an insider and she was in the room just opposite to where the BTS members where filming their Vlives..She said that its IMPOSSIBLE for an outsider to go to BTS's room or even enter the hotel in the first place..there are guards/staffs EVERYWHERE , There were many guards standing outside BTS's hotel room..and the staff actually wanted to go to someone else's room but by mistake got into BTS's room..some army's without any proof said that was a saesang when she was clearly not..Do u really think they wouldn't lock their door if they knew that even outsiders are there in the hotel or in that floor? there was no one other than Bighit staffs with them..They could see the girl through the camera/phone which they are using to film..if it actually was a saesang they would have immediately looked back and did something..
This is why I love hobi no matter how hard you hit him he will smile 😢🥺💜
He can cry later in alone but not show he's hurt too much
The way you pronounced Chenle really hurt me oof-
ik bro-
I can think about all of these but ,throwing things ....is really disgusting , like a idol is not safe even on the stage 💔💔💔
Kpop idol's life is a heaven but a curse at a same time 💔💔
This is all horrible, but Chenle's case hits me because I'm a Czennie. I've watched a ton of Nct's lives, and they're always being harassed by sasaengs either by phone or with their presence outside their dorms or on sets. I really hope Chenle's case gets looked at since he's on the younger side. No one deserves to be treated this way. T^T
I think the most scary is throwing out sharp or heavy things at idols, and also being followed and stalked or hacked for example the no pants girl who stalks BTS but stopped, like they okay love them but you are hurting your loved ones and making them hate you for example just put yourself on their place, and imagine someone stalking you or sharing your private info and putting you endanger, it will sure make you mentally and physically not good, and that's torturing, I'm sure idols who are experienced to this many times could have a trauma or getting used to that
ngl, i wanna stalk a sasaeng and see how tf they feel, my blood boils when i hear about this stuff, idols are human beings too!!
Same I wanna do it with you too
@@alyshbahkhan8806 let's find one and stalk them on social media, and hey, why not pop up at their house to say "hi!" btw i absolutely love your pfp
@@sanskrutishiwale3492 yeah I don’t have social media but I will help you and thank you tomorrow is my birthday
@@alyshbahkhan8806 happy birthdayy!!! ur army right? love you bb, have an amazing day tomorrow AND today!! :)
@@sanskrutishiwale3492 thanks
Something has to be done. Idols are really going through a lot.
G dragon’s incident scared me
When J-Hope got something thrown at his head, that shocked me and made me angry!😡
love comes with respect. if you really love someone and what they do, learn to respect them. us stans and people who are in fandoms have respect, so if you don't have that, don't dare to associate yourself with any fandom!!
Really and they call themselves "fans" ofc without the knowledge of its real meaning... It's quite normal to be crazy over your fav person but stalking them until they feel embarrassed, uneasy and fed up and legal action has to be taken that's a no no man
Also the video is nicely made 👌
American Teeny Boppers are so extra these days.
Sasaengs: "Hold my soju."
Lol
At least anti-fan doesn't come in silently and act like a thief. Dafuq sasaeng fans, ur idol have a life too y'know?
im in tears ......im worried for each idol ...im scared for their well being...every idol i stan or not
some fans really forget that *they are fans* nothing else. you are *fans* understand that. your idol isn’t waiting for you, your idol isn’t in love with you, your a fan. remember that. yes your idol is a happy that your a fan but that’s all they aren’t gonna be like “omg i’ve been in love with you and your my true love” like no
In order to protect a phone number phone companies need to check their employees. Korea needs to do better. It took people being murdered/or nearly murdered for the US to take stuff like this seriously and most people are not celebrities who similar stuff like this happen to.
Oh my god, sasaengs are so scary like please don't do any of that to our dear idols--and especially don't scare or threaten them!!!! It hurts to see that idols not only have to face mistreatment, criticism, hate, overwork, and now they also have to deal with crazy fans. Idols need to be wayyyyyy more respected!!!
Not K-pop related but Harry (& the entire 1D )got so many stuff thrown at him,now he has a superpower to catch to anything thrown at him. But,yeah Fans should stop throwing stuff at idols,they could get seriously hurt.
nothing comes close to TVXQ's stalking. Jaejoong had a fan break into his bedroom, and takig pics of him while he was asleep (and doing who knows what else), and they had ALL of these incidents in this video happen to them for years.
True Jaejoong also mentioned that he had to move house many times back in those days.
Please people need to solve this idols are doing everything for us working so hard all day long just to satisfy fans and some obsessive fans can't even respect their privacy. It's seriously so disturbing.
“Chennel” of nct
The WORST incident was an idol who drank orange juice from a fan at a fan meet. The juice had Super Glue in it. As a result, he was hospitalized in serious condition for several months or longer and it was unsure of his full recovery. To this date, he cannot drink orange juice. Another serious incident was Jackson of GOT7 getting injured because of a car chase or something caused by Sasaengs. Another idol was chased in a taxi and the idol was seen on camera angry at the Sasaengs and pulling one of them out of the car because of the danger they caused to others and himself. Also not the first incident where taxi drivers chased him and dangerously violating traffic laws. He calmed down and asked the same taxi driver to take them safely home. I am not sure but I think he even paid the taxi driver to take them safely home.
Them sasaengs should realize that doing all of this will only make the K-pop idols to think bad of them. And only increase fear towards the fandom. They can't give 1 million+ fans 100% attention all the time, they're humans too. They can get scared! Sasaengs are sooo scary especially for male idols.
(the orange juice one tho-- was the "fan" a hater or what?? Did she think it was funny? Who would give ANYONE super glue in orange juice?!)
the super glue incident should be U-know Yunho during the first few years of dbsk debut
@@dizzycherry6475 That was a Sasaeng as their motto is good or bad it is still getting to their idol and publicity. In the western world we have sasaeng but more in form of stalkers or worst incident were the killing of Versace and John Lennon. There was even one that hid in Michael Jackson's bedroom.
@@pamelatan7606 Thank you for the idol's name. I wasn't sure and did not want to give out false information. He was on a show where he spoke about it and even had film clips to show that he still feared orange juice. He actually did not press charges if I remember correctly.
@@joellelenniger yep he didnt press any charges because the women surrendered to the police. It was so long ago but I never forget about this news because its so scary...
LMAOOOO WHO IS CHENEL????
**Cnehle has left the chat**
😂
cHeNel
Which did I find disturbing? Ummm, how about ALL of them? And 30 years old and doing this stuff? Get a life, or better yet, a cat. It isn't some movie like Pretty Woman where the idol is going to fall in love with you out of the blue and sweep you off of your feet. Good grief.
I don't mean to offend, but please, you're a kpop channel, pronounce things correctly. It's Jungkook, not Jungkoo, Chenle, not Chenel, and Sasaeng, not saesang. Saesang means world and it took me way too long to realise you were talking about NCT's Chenle.
Omg finally someone in the comments that pointed this out 😂😂😂i cant
Yuh the prononciation was💀💀💀
😭😭😭😭😌😌😌😭😭
Literally what would people get by throwing their bras at idols😭✋🏻-
I love chenle with my whole heart. He has been my bias for years, but whatever that girl did to him was seriously bad. A real fan would not do that.
I remembered about wayv's manager give information about wayv to sasaeng
It's a sasaeng giving sasaeng info to another sasaeng
NCT’s sasaengs are getting out of control. Almost every livestream etc., the members are ALWAYS called by a random number. Renjun tried to expose a sasaengs number on live so they would stop calling. Jeno got called by a sasaeng and Renjun immediately grabbed his phone and blocked the number. When Jeno gets called by a sasaeng, the other dreamies always grab his phone so Jeno must’ve had a lot of sasaeng problems then and he and the other members still do now.
I don't understand what goes on in their minds psychologically.Like do they feel like idols belong to them or do they become so obsessive over these idols in the name of love?
I'm seriously confused here guyzz!!
I think the severe cases are psychopaths, and the ones that try to get their phone numbers and stuff are too obsessed and have psychopath tendencies. That's what I think.
@@oiily9099 do you think they can be catogarised as psychopaths?maybe extreme stalker tendencies?or are these two same?I'm wondering..
chen-le was an under age at that time when that happened and it was said that 45+ aged woman was his sasaeng that was always strolling around the place that chenle stayed
it's so scary
This is really disgusting! Why don't they understand that the idols are also human beings. If they think themselves as their fan, then they should not stalk their idols and disturb their private space. It's really scary!
Not idols just call them singers
You have to be pretty messed up to think a person, anyone really, is gonna see your psycho behaviour and think to themselves ‘ah yes blood letters and excessive screeching - that is the girl for me! who wants shared hobbies and inside jokes when you can have getting arrested at Changi airport instead? that’s true love!’ These people need help.
It's great that idols dreams come true but behind of it there's opposite being invaded by this saesang
Imagine how much idols change their phone numbers....
omg jin looked sooo mad when that object hit him
Dhjshdjshdjsh I know this video is abt sasaengs but I am like "ExCusE mE iT'S Chen-le"
Lmao true she was pronouncing it as chennel. I WAA SCREAMING ITS CHON-LE
Finally someone saying this
Isnt it pronounced Chon - luh?
I was like wut
@SHINee unbothered kings I thought it was chien le. like é and lè. Right? lmao I’m Chinese too-
This honestly makes me really disturbed and sad to see and hear what some people would do to these idols, I really feel for all idols who have to go through any of these incidents 😞
When I saw Changi Airport I was like: Wth something like this actually happened in my country?!
I am so scared for the idols imagine a stalker falling you and hacking thier private information must be really scary, those people are really really crazy and insane it's like privacy does not exist to them..gosh I am really worry about all the idols safety because those people are crazy and scary..this is what happens when u become very famous people will start to go crazy for them and I am so terrified to think about it..but I am so kinda proud of how the idols deal with this crazy people but also worry about them and for thier safety those crazy people will do anything to get close to thier idol by stalking and hacking into thier personal information..that's crazy and I mean crazy people 😳
Honestly I don't know how they get so hyped like that. I might be too lazy but seriously, just thinking about all the thing you need to do as a saseang is quite tiring.
It's horrible for the idol and I'm here wondering why did they choose to become an idol since it was a fact that saseang exist lol. So in a way to me, idols are pretty strong minded already.
In whoever case I try to imagine, I just think both life are tiring as hell.
Her: *Chenel*
Me: 👁️👄👁️
It's not super rare in getting a kpop idols number, just ask those crazy people who sells the idols information.
don't promote people to invade their privacy!
@@LILI-um6ej who said that I was promoting.
@@TakaS013 it may be true that it's not super rare for some people to get kpop idols numbers, but don't say "just ask" those sasaengs cuz some ppl might do it and fall into it
@@LILI-um6ej what I've said doesn't promote anything, or telling anyone to do anything. What I've said simply goes off of saying how easy it is to get anyone's information, but you have to pay to get any information from a sasaeng.
The part about stuff being thrown at idols during concerts makes me so fucking mad. How stupid you gotta be to do that?! This is why I'm glad we have the pandemic, no more physical contact from idols to fans, I always hate all sorts of fan interactions.
It’s pronounced “chaun Luh” not chennel
This SASAENGS are scary . 😔
Stop throwing things on the stage .
You're right this does need to be stopped but will it? Sadly no. The only things that can be done is to protect the idols more, but that causes the idols to become more distant to fans ...
The fans that are the worst are EXTREMELY obsessive (obviously) its almost or rather is a OCD complex.
If more fans paid attention to one another (like a lot of Fandoms do now) we can not only stop this obsessive, dangerous behavior but also get those people help.
let them live peacefully ....being a fan doesnt mean ppl can disturb their private life ...its so scary but atleast these days such things have reduced
Alas, it is nothing new. Throughout years and fields (music, cinema, sports, politics,...), you find some admirers who become obsessed. And among them, you have those who suffer from erotomania.
My first memories of obsessive fans were a documentary around fans of the Beatles.
In my country there was a famous singer who died more than 40 years. He had cohorts of obsessive fans who followed him everywhere, ripped his clothes, threw their underwear at him, waited for him in his hotel room, waited for him in front of his house... He was forced to hid the fact that he had a partner and two sons. When he died accidentally, some fans tried to end their lives, some throwing themselves in the river.
I wish there was better security at the airports.
And even in 2022, in recent vlive JK was still getting many prank calls while being on live....like imagine how many he might be getting offcam....This really creeps me out!!! THESE TOXIC PEOPLE SHOULD REALLY BE PUNISHED
I can't imagine what male saesangs would to female idols......and what the female saesangs are doing is absolutely disgusting
All of them was creepy and disturbing, That GD one was dangerous
seriously why should they do such thinks to them they're human too duh
I'm really sorry for idols who get hurt ( my country was one of they got hurt)
that was scarry situation when bts was arriwed to airport that there was so much paparazzis and fans and push thrue. Then Jimin falled down, poor baby. dont they think about idol att all. after that Jimin doesnt often walk alone in airport. These are sad incidents.
BeBoss TV about the incident of the sasaeng fan trying to kiss jungkook. There was actually an other incident that an sasaeng fan was trying to kiss BTS Suga but the army's were:"yah yah what are you doing" but luckily the security was there and took the sasaeng fan
It's simple: don't do to them what you wouldn't want done to you.
ncts adress got leaked the other day, and koreaboo posted it. im so scared for them and their safety, I really wish sm cared enough to do something
This creeps me out it literally gave me chills I instantly remember when Dongwoo( INFINITE) was pulled from his leg by crazy fans and Sungkyu( LEADER) had to forcefully pull Dongwoo towards him and get him away from that crazy "fan" or when SHINee Jonghyun discovered a girl inside his bedroom's closet and she ran out with his underwear , or when 2PM's Taecyeon received a letter made from puvic hair and menstrual blood.
Every clip is disturbing.
bruh if someone threw stuff at ikon i would get so mad. That idk what I'd do right then.
I remember skz were doing a live, I think 3rd year anniversary one(?), and everyone was having fun and one of them suddenly got a call and said, "... it's an international number"
Bro the way the whole mood shifted like😭😭
I will tell every incident was so scaryyy they have so insecure and depressed
This is so scary. If fans truly love their idols, respect them and their privacy. A persons home is the most sacred place where they can feel comfortable and content in their own place. I don’t understand why fans would want to scare them to show them love. And the noona fans are giving us older fans a bad name! I didn’t know women my age were conducting themselves like that! Sad.
All, this is so scary.
it leaves me to wonder... what goes on inside their head? like SERIOUSLY how in their right mind would they think anything they did is even slightly okay?
Many of things things as fans doing is appreciated and make to look cool by some ppl.. Maximum in Hollywood... Flashing, throwing bras, or other things
Serious action should be taken against saesang by the government like cyber crime should be more strict if a person follows an an idols they should be immediately arrested until and unless government steps in this creepy thing can never stop
The most creepy is getting there information and calling, texting, and going to there house. Like can they not have at least 1% of respect for there idols?!
At this point, I'm ready to be jailed just for killing sasaeng.
They should install a mosquito net or something around the stage to stop stuff from being thrown at the idols. Taking Back Sunday did this at a festival. Smart move.
Also, they should always heighten security on stage when fans try to jump it. Who knows what kinda weapon they might have.
About the pic of a Saseang behind BTS looking through the door, tbh I think it was a staff or another member. I saw another vid where someone explained it but I'm not sure, it was something like that. If it's not please respect Idols privacy for theirs and your own safety. 💜
It wasnt mentioned but the whole cut for cookie hashtag that went around in 2016 was very disturbing as well as one sasaeng fan who broke into an idols room and defecated on his floor (I can't remember the idols name)