That's a lot of machinery and sensitive measuring equipment. And we didn't see what was downstairs! Struck me as a well oiled machine and a calm, easy going workplace. And I agree 100% that dogs make a workplace even better 👍
its great to see my family's shop get some notice from the world. the one thing my family has always kept in mind is do it right and do it well. thank you for taking the time to do this.
100% my pleasure and I can’t thank your family and ‘the extended family’ enough for letting me see how special this place is and what it does for the shooting community.
I wonder how much explosives it would take to shear off Portland and Seattle, sail them down the coast, and park them next to San Fransisco. Everyone would be happier.
You could tell by talking to Becky and the staff that everyone there felt that way and I think you can even hear Becky say that in the beginning too. Everyone just seemed genuinely happy and that they enjoyed their jobs.
I would think that A- well maintained equipment is very important, B- tolerance is maintained, at every stage, C- properly trained employees that have pride in their skills, D- extremely accurate inspection equipment is vital. Miss any in this small market arena and you quickly drop in your business. From the visit and q&a session it appears that these folks have everything in place to continue to have a backlog. Similar to quality barrel makers in the need to wait a few for a product that you consider the best, it’s worth ordering early if you desire accuracy.
Good timing F-Class John. I was looking for a reamer for a new gun build. I wanted to use my own reamer to assure consistency from barrel to barrel. I put my order in with JGS this morning. 👍👍
ED and EL are actually on the far left of the drawing. I had to ask about them recently and Jasmine helped me understand them. They are extended length and diameter dimensions which allow the reamer to be re-sharpened.
Enjoyed watching this. Grew up on the Oregon Coast. Miss it very much. On my next barrel, I plan to have JGS make the reamer. Thanks very much for sharing.
Thanks for a super interesting video! As a old retired machinist/toolmaker it was eye opening on how chamber reamers are produced today. I used to setup and operate those old style Cincinnati tool and cutter grinders (aka, hand grinders in the video) to produce carbide reamers used for producing carbide heading dies used in the production of bolts and screws. Those new CNC grinding machines are really amazing and actually seem like magic the way they can grind all the tapers and angles necessary for the finished product. I’ll bet each CNC grinder cost $125,000 - $200,000. Possibly even more. Just wondering if PAC-Nor rifle barrels are still in business up there in southern Oregon? Do any FClass shooters use PAC-Nor barrels? Just wondering as I witnessed some remarkable groups shot with many different calibers which a custom rifle builder had produced. Thing that was interesting to me was they all had 3 groove rifling!! Recommend by the rifle builder. Thanks for your videos John!!!!
so, canucks who want to convert rifles into pistols due to Justine turdeau could chop at shoulder and consider gap freebore for the new lower power loading. A .308 being good choice but also 5.56 into shorter version of .350legend... Or maybe a gunsmith lathe-made mod that maintains barrel groove ID to the new (shortened) case end, in SS or chrome moly, same as barrel, plus silver solder.
John. How can you calculate required freebore to the bullet? Is there a way to calculate that using bullets bearing surface info and reamer print info? If so, what figures to use from print?
I've seen it done different ways but this is where consulting your gunsmith is probably the best since he's going to be doing your stuff. But typically someone will take their cartridge, load round so the bullet is roughly 1/2 to 3/4 into the neck and then use experience and known data for a round to determine how much freebore to end at. It various from round to round and bullet to bullet. JGS can probably give you a window for certain cartridges that they're familiar with but will probably refer you to your gunsmith as well.
The best thing to do is to seat a bullet exactly where you want it in the cartridge. Then ship the dummy round to JGS. It will be measured and a freebore will be suggested from there for that specific load. Final freebore is decided by you, the customer. Or, your gunsmith.
is it true that you got your beginnings as far as the craft of reamer making form Elliot who was the man then it came to cambering reamers his shop was in ramona , ca. back in the 50 's to early 70's
I really enjoyed this video... They made a spec 6.5 PRC reamer for me, I am sure it is just something they have in inventory as I didn't want anything fancy... But I'll tell you, for my first chamber reamer, BOY was that unit pretty, just absolutely beautifully machine ground. Eagle Eye recommended JGS a few years ago on ISYOUR6COVERED's channel in the live chat... So, I jumped on that and I was not disappointed. Really nice work.
I'm betting the reason this family doesn't want their faces on camera is they don't like wokesters either and don't want to be harassed because they're in the gun industry pipeline.
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Thats my husband & my mother in law! :)
Snoopy and Coco just had to make an appearance
That's a lot of machinery and sensitive measuring equipment. And we didn't see what was downstairs! Struck me as a well oiled machine and a calm, easy going workplace. And I agree 100% that dogs make a workplace even better 👍
Downstairs was that first machine shop where they make all the tool steel blanks.
its great to see my family's shop get some notice from the world. the one thing my family has always kept in mind is do it right and do it well. thank you for taking the time to do this.
100% my pleasure and I can’t thank your family and ‘the extended family’ enough for letting me see how special this place is and what it does for the shooting community.
Like you said, just the fact they allow dogs in the work place tells a lot about the company. Thanks for you and JGS for the tour, really enjoyed it.
Glad you liked and it and yeah the dogs being allowed was awesome.
I wonder how much explosives it would take to shear off Portland and Seattle, sail them down the coast, and park them next to San Fransisco. Everyone would be happier.
I'm just about to order a reamer from JGS after working over the dimensions for a 6mm PPC. Now I understand better why it takes a while.
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Thank you!!!
Thanks for showing off JGS. Great people.
Glad you liked it.
though its not said in person. everybody who works there is like family
You could tell by talking to Becky and the staff that everyone there felt that way and I think you can even hear Becky say that in the beginning too. Everyone just seemed genuinely happy and that they enjoyed their jobs.
Coos Bay love the area. The area is very interesting. North bend was home to a company that made powder tricklers sometime in the 60s
I would think that A- well maintained equipment is very important, B- tolerance is maintained, at every stage, C- properly trained employees that have pride in their skills, D- extremely accurate inspection equipment is vital. Miss any in this small market arena and you quickly drop in your business. From the visit and q&a session it appears that these folks have everything in place to continue to have a backlog. Similar to quality barrel makers in the need to wait a few for a product that you consider the best, it’s worth ordering early if you desire accuracy.
Good timing F-Class John. I was looking for a reamer for a new gun build. I wanted to use my own reamer to assure consistency from barrel to barrel.
I put my order in with JGS this morning. 👍👍
I'm glad the video helped.
Thanks John
ED and EL are actually on the far left of the drawing. I had to ask about them recently and Jasmine helped me understand them. They are extended length and diameter dimensions which allow the reamer to be re-sharpened.
Thanks John, JGS is top notch!!!
Yes they are.
Jreat video John, and a big thanks to JGS!
Really awesome how they measure off the light comparator. Neat video.
Fantastic tour! Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very interesting, they do make great reamers.
Enjoyed watching this. Grew up on the Oregon Coast. Miss it very much. On my next barrel, I plan to have JGS make the reamer. Thanks very much for sharing.
Glad you liked it.
Thanks for a super interesting video! As a old retired machinist/toolmaker it was eye opening on how chamber reamers are produced today. I used to setup and operate those old style Cincinnati tool and cutter grinders (aka, hand grinders in the video) to produce carbide reamers used for producing carbide heading dies used in the production of bolts and screws. Those new CNC grinding machines are really amazing and actually seem like magic the way they can grind all the tapers and angles necessary for the finished product. I’ll bet each CNC grinder cost $125,000 - $200,000. Possibly even more. Just wondering if PAC-Nor rifle barrels are still in business up there in southern Oregon? Do any FClass shooters use PAC-Nor barrels? Just wondering as I witnessed some remarkable groups shot with many different calibers which a custom rifle builder had produced. Thing that was interesting to me was they all had 3 groove rifling!! Recommend by the rifle builder. Thanks for your videos John!!!!
I see you got the meet Snoopy and Coco there at the end.
Yes and they were awesome!!
Got a 6mm reminton reamer from there
Man, this is deep in the weeds. Next you’ll be building a forge, LOL
so, canucks who want to convert rifles into pistols due to Justine turdeau could chop at shoulder and consider gap freebore for the new lower power loading. A .308 being good choice but also 5.56 into shorter version of .350legend... Or maybe a gunsmith lathe-made mod that maintains barrel groove ID to the new (shortened) case end, in SS or chrome moly, same as barrel, plus silver solder.
Hahahahaha that was my twin bro and his dog Shiva
That’s cool. They were both really nice to talk to.
The ultimate trophy to John, the .284 Masek, aka 22LR. :) Anything bigger and he shoots his eye out.
John. How can you calculate required freebore to the bullet? Is there a way to calculate that using bullets bearing surface info and reamer print info? If so, what figures to use from print?
I've seen it done different ways but this is where consulting your gunsmith is probably the best since he's going to be doing your stuff. But typically someone will take their cartridge, load round so the bullet is roughly 1/2 to 3/4 into the neck and then use experience and known data for a round to determine how much freebore to end at. It various from round to round and bullet to bullet. JGS can probably give you a window for certain cartridges that they're familiar with but will probably refer you to your gunsmith as well.
@@FClassJohn Thanks for the info👍
The best thing to do is to seat a bullet exactly where you want it in the cartridge. Then ship the dummy round to JGS. It will be measured and a freebore will be suggested from there for that specific load. Final freebore is decided by you, the customer. Or, your gunsmith.
Ahhh man i live an hour away from there wish I could a met you.
Wind thumper is less syllables than WT
😂 I didn’t think about it that way.
@@FClassJohn You can thank George Carlin, "VW is supposed to be short for Volks Wagon but saying the words is faster than saying the letters". 😂
@@kcstott 😂🤣
Nice video.I was suprised they didnt make the Carbide.They justn order and Resale them.
They order the blanks, but they do all the grinding on them just like on the tool steel ones.
Good day.guy, Lovee it~how nice job-
is it true that you got your beginnings as far as the craft of reamer making form Elliot who was the man then it came to cambering reamers his shop was in ramona , ca. back in the 50 's to early 70's
OK, what’s the 7 Wind Thumper?
It's a 6.5prc/7mm wildcat
Way bigger than Manson’s. About Ten times bigger.
ol john! god eric shaved lol
Interesting..
How do you determine where the bolt surface is on the ream?
If asked we can put a scribe line at bolt face on your tool, or mark the shank with the measurement from the end of the tool to bolt face.
I just ;oved the video as I used to be a machinist until my etes went bad grom mac and could no linger read a micrometerneven with my glasses
Really hard to watch with all the redactions and secrecy...
I really enjoyed this video... They made a spec 6.5 PRC reamer for me, I am sure it is just something they have in inventory as I didn't want anything fancy... But I'll tell you, for my first chamber reamer, BOY was that unit pretty, just absolutely beautifully machine ground. Eagle Eye recommended JGS a few years ago on ISYOUR6COVERED's channel in the live chat... So, I jumped on that and I was not disappointed. Really nice work.
gave up watching after a couple of min utes, getting vertigo from the "fire hosing " of the camera.
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I appreciate you John, but no way am I going to visit and spend money in woke socialist Oregon.
I'm betting the reason this family doesn't want their faces on camera is they don't like wokesters either and don't want to be harassed because they're in the gun industry pipeline.
Wow. That’s extremely rude to our family. We live here because that’s where it all started. It’s to hard to pack up an entire business and move it.
We defiantly aren’t woke. Not the slightest.
@@14goldmedals exactly this!
The fact that you can't separate a place from the individual people who live there says a lot more about you than it does them buddy. Grow up.
I don’t want be on video “ very unprofessional..unbelievable…what they think there going to be celebrities !!! Very childish.
The only childish one here is you. Didn't want to be on camera because of the woke loudmouths and haters.