@@TheBESTRamenOfAllTimeI wish I could say the same. For me the boss fights and lacking multiplayer integration really ruined this game for me. I still think it's an okay game and most of the levels are well designed, but the boss fights make me not want to replay Superstars.
I stopped playing the game after 10 attempts on that boss. I want to do a play through as Trip, thus why I am studying this video. Never in my life have a played a boss so tedious.
I feel like this game was styled and aimed for a younger audience compared to other Sonic games, Yet they stick a ridiculous insta-kill boss at the end
A single checkpoint for these bosses (including the true final one) would've saved them (maybe not completely but enough where they aren't a super painful slog)
@@MrJujux11 its incredibly frustrating to have to restart the ENTIRE boss fight all over again. this game not having mid boss checkpoints is an oddity.
Trip’s final battle is one of the hardest bosses I’ve faced in a video game, Mostly the instant kill attacks and the lack of checkpoints really makes fang a hard boss but good guide!
Dude, thank you so much for your tips. The final boss in Trip's Story was driving me nuts. Literally hours of my life spent trying to beat this damn thing.
@@thomaslee2558it’s not that it’s difficult. The second part is a bit and if you mess around and fall off the map (which is how you’re going to die there) you have to reset and do the entire battle again. The beginning battle is a slog to get through. They needed to make the second part a respawn area. It’s not fun for me anymore and I just want to get it over with.
I found the Eggman fight to be just fine, but after 6 hours, I gave up on the Fang fight, even though I was really close to beating. It just wasn’t fun at ALL. Especially without checkpoints.
Eggman fight wasn’t nearly as bad, yeah. Only issue I had was I didn’t know the countdown timer didn’t apply to the boss fight, so I rushed through it. Fang, on the other hand… what were they thinking?
The Eggman fight is easy once you learn his weakness and good timing helps with his 2nd Phase. Fang’s 1st Phase was pain but eventually I learned how it worked 2nd Phase feels so stupid no matter how many times I should be hitting his head, he yets me off a cliff and I have to start all over again or get stupidly hit by an object.
@@gravityfallscanadathe fang one got me like: wtf is this boss fight, there should be at least a check point in phase 2, due to the web and insta-kill bottle cap.
@@Leo10572there should also be more rings that spawn after a certain point. They did it in the 90s to have you spend more time with the game and to artificially make it seem harder. These bosses also just take so damn long
You can actually hit Sonic's final boss during the runner portion when he switches the gravity to zero G. You just need to slowly navigate to his head while floatng and time pressing jump to jumpball into his head. Maneuvering over to his head and timing the hit is easier than you think. Helps a lot to score that free hit and skip the cycle. Theres a lot of people dont know anything about that 0 gravity gimmick. You can do more than float. The jumpball move during 0 G actually has like 8-10 frames of invulnerability like a dodge move, which you can use for getting through lasers in the earlier level when combined with the fact that you can jump from wall to wall to be fast enough to pass fully through during the dodge. The jumpball dodge can also save you in the boss fight if you get a little too close to those electricity balls while trying to get the head. Its quite handy but isnt explained anywhere.
Just to add to this, there's two emerald powers that are super useful on the Anti-grav phase. You can use the Vine emerald power just before he starts the phase to move above his head, so when the anti-gravity starts you are already located beyond the energy sparks' range. The Slow Time emerald power can also be used just before he initiates anti-gravity to easily move around before the energy sparks advance too much.
Instant Kills and no checkpoint in between both bosses is hands down one of the worst, if not the worst boss designs I’ve ever seen in my 23 years of gaming. I also majored in Game Design in college, and can definitely say that my former instructors would be absolutely appalled by Trip’s final boss.
Fang's first phase would be good enough for a final boss, and the second phase would be tolerable if it was just a separate act entirely. But having to replay the first round (which gets easier with repetition but barely any faster) every time you get hit with one shot garbage is just horrible.
@@ZmanandTails You haven`t played Sonic 2. Death Egg zone. Rings are banned. 2 very hard bosses and no check points. S3K final boss also the same thing. 3 long phases, no rings.
Neither of those fights forces 20 seconds of dead time between each opportunity for an attack. And in both you die when hit because you have no rings, not because some attack breaks the rules and arbitrarily kills you.
For Fang's second "Shadow Clone" attack, use the White Emerald. Trip spits fireballs so you can attack him from a safe distance with no risk of falling or getting hit. EDIT: May also work with the headbutt. Haven't tried it myself yet
Managed to beat this boss on my second try, It really wasnt that frustrating imo (but thats likely because I used this video for preperation), Also, Heres a tip for people struggling, get caught by the webs and spam every jump button you got, it makes him fire way more early and gives you more running room
That `s weird that you could escape being trapped in webs. For me getting trapped in the webs is ivariable instant death as controls are completely locked and Fang just whacks you with his claw for Screen KO with no way to escape.
Tip: if you get caught by the web, SPAM THE JUMP BUTTON. Not only will you be able to evade getting one-shot, but it'll stop shooting webs and will skip to the part where it spawns enemies and barrel thingies so you can damage it.
The Eggman boss fight gave me some trouble my first time fighting him (which was on stream), but aside from the bottomless pits he causes, it’s not that bad. Though the lack of a checkpoint sucks. It’s very easy to cheese this boss as Tails (which I did do to get the Golden Enemy Hunter achievement to unlock. It only counts if it’s defeated in the same life you beat the stage with). Fang drove me nuts. No checkpoints and a common move that instantly kills you is just… awful. The headbutt attack, even if I manage to hit him with it, I fly back, hit his spikey hand, and then get knocked further back into the bottomless pit it made. Not good at all.
Use the multi character emerald power during the bosses final phase, you can land the final two hits on him before he starts swinging his fists, that way you cut out the bullsh#t before it even has a chance to start to it.
Phase 2 of the Eggman fight is a lot less daunting when you break it down. Outside of the gravity mechanic, it's largely just a remixed variation of the Sonic 3 & Knuckles final boss.
Yeah but way worse x2 Sonic 3 had a good dynamic, run, hit the nose, hit the emerald, avoid the blast, rinse and repeat until it explodes. This motherfucker on the other hand is RUN because you can't do shit, wait for him to be vulnerable, hit em, now you are in zero gravity so can't do shit, now Run while you get the AliExpress Master Emerald blasts and if you don't have the Chaos Powers you are fucked because you can't do shit, do that like 2 times, and then he has an attack in which he spins and you can't do shit, he hits you and throws you into the void so now you have to do everything all over again. fuck this guy.
Before watching this video I never knew there was a pattern to eggman’s missiles and your tip of using the emerald powers at the later hits of the second phase is really effective, i used to think it was impossible without using emerald powers
I had a strong feeling that was possible, but the section is too easy to just dodge so it might not be worth risking it on a part with guaranteed survivability
About Trip final boss you can use white yellow and blue emeralds to skip hard stuff in first phase, they will refresh in second phase. And then he shoot webs its better to always try to wait first shoot inside, he always start to shoot you with cannons if he see you trapped between them (very helpful in last hits then he use double cannon)
Tip: Use Tails for the main story final boss, and when Eggman throws his arm or arms down (depending on how many time you hit him) fly up and just tap the fly button and dodge the sparks. Hope this helps! (Found this out myself by the way)
this game has some of the worst boss fights in the sonic series. the fact there's insta kill attacks in 30 min boss fights that never end is shit design. brings a fun game down so damn much
Oh. I thought I was restricted by the timer. That damn thing counting down scared the hell outa me and I was loosing my bloody mind cause of it. But seems I was panicking for no reason. I hate how long these damn stages and boss fights are x,x
Something I learned in the Eggman fight is that you CAN actually land an extra hit in phase two when he does the electric attack. It's VERY risky though and you will often get hit on it, but it's worth it to skip through the fight faster because waiting for 8-10 minutes just to die to the arm spin (the VERY LAST HIT, which is so evil) is so unbelievably stupid
In Act 1 the game hints us several times that we can use spin attack during the anti gravity section. I feel like it is the developers’ way of trick us into thinking using spin attack on this pattern is a smart idea. It probably at best save less than 20 seconds so big no for most players.
@@abc2390986 I don't have the patience for another 30 seconds of “dodge lasers, dodge hand slams, get one hit, back to electric attack to repeat”, especially if I’ve been fighting the boss for an hour and died to the last attack 3 times. If I have rings to spare, I'm going for it (especially because I can use the Avatar thing to skip that last hit).
For trips final boss when fang tries to headbutt the ground use either the red (bullet) or yellow (slow) emerald powers to either reach the top of the screen and tackle him or slow down time to avoid the attack
I quit the game during Trip’s final boss. I already wasn’t having fun with her story, especially with locking the true final boss behind it, and I’d already wasted three hours on this fight alone. But to finally get to the end of the fight only to be killed by some Sonic 4 Episode 1 BS and have seven more minutes of my life go to waste immediately killed any interest I had in ever fully finishing this game. One of the worst bosses I’ve ever fought in a video game, and in a game that already has pretty terrible bosses. Can’t wait to see all the “skill issue” comment again from fanboys who have no idea what *fair* challenging game design looks, just like with Frontiers Update 3…
@@SonicHubYTAgreed. I didn’t struggle with the platforming like a lot of others did. I actually enjoyed it (no checkpoints aside). It was more the second and especially fifth trials that were the problem in that case.
I had a good time with the main story, but Trip's story is unapologetically terrible. 99% of it isn't even hard thanks to her spike wisp ability and having all of the emeralds by that point, it's just poorly designed.
I agree. Trips story kinda sucks and soured my opinion on the game. They should’ve just let you get to the final boss with the chaos emeralds like the other games.
During phase 2 for sonic's final boss (the part where he starts swinging his arms across the map), use the avatar power if you have it, and you can end the fight much earlier
All i'm gonna say to you mate is thanks so much for your help I've been trying to defeat that boss with Sonic for a very long time and your guide really helped so thank you very much 😃
@12:32-.+With the variant with a red cursor on you, If you keep doing moving forward, it is possible for the red cursors to a line in such a way that it's physically impossible to not get caught in a web. It happens on inclines. Shut your trap.
I actually really enjoyed the Fang boss fight. It's hard, but nothing about it is unfair. You CAN learn how to consistently deal with everything he throws at you. The 1-hit KO moves can be undoubtedly frustrating. I don't think players play a Sonic game to fight a KH superbosses on Critical mode. But if you already know how to dodge everything, these 1-hit KO moves aren't much different than any other attack. I died plenty of times when fighting him. But when I won for the first time, it felt genuinely good. That's how I know it was a good boss. The true final boss though (the purple dragon)? That one's actually bad! It's too luck based. You just hope rings will appear frequently enough close to you so you can survive. His attack patterns are mostly fair, but non of them hurt you (except for the insta-kill black holes, which you have to sacrifice rings to escape from). It happens that, at times, it's preferable to get hit by a move so you can get rings nearby. IN WHAT BOSS WOULD YOU WANT TO PURPOSELY GET HIT??????? Also it takes about 7 minutes to defeat, which is dumb. There are other not-so-great bosses in the game because you wait too much for openings, but non of them are unfair. I'll genuinely take the Silver boss fight from 06 over the dragon because A. It's relatively short, and B. You can manipulate him to grab stuff so you won't get grabbed yourself. Silver isn't too RNG. This dragon IS unfair.
Imagine if all dragon`s normal attacks (fireballs, lasers, meteors, holey walls etc. )can knock massive amout of rings from Super Sonic (up to 50 rings).
On Knack, I found it just easier to ignore trying to hit him on his headbutt. Cause unlike with Robotnik's headbutt, you don't automatically bounce back to the platform, so it's easy to die and have to go through another 10 minutes, infact you may even just jump through him sometimes somehow. Just ignore it, let him do the bouncing bomb drops again, just survive that attack, don't get greedy, cause the price of greed is way too much time.
All I gotta say is just cause a game doesn't have lives doesn't mean a boss shouldn't have check points, especially when most of the attacks are instant kill, what doesn't help is that the momentum is so hard sometimes it feels like turning around is like moving in molasses
I got into a web (panik) I spammed out of it (kalm) The game auto jumped and got me into another web (panik) The boss shot me (YOU SON OF A B-) (That happened to me)
In the first phase, when he does the attack with his ship crashing down. The best spot is to stop at the tallest slope, this will give you more flexibility to attack him.
Ya'll kept asking for Fang after Mania...well, here he is. Can't wait for the upcoming Bean final boss where he insta kills you with a nuke if you don't flawlessly master his pattern.
I remember this being similar to Sonic 1 and Sonic 2's bosess from this. No rings means you couldn't afford another mistake at any point of the battle.
I beat Fang finally and finished Tripps story, it took many attempts but I got it done within the day. I also agree the bosses are ridiculously too hard. Idk if they expected little kids that are fans of Sonic to actually get through this or what
Thank you so much dude. Trip's final boss was giving me a really hard time. I probably spent over 2 hours fighting him. Your guide really helped. Like you said, once you understand the patterns, he's not THAT bad. Still, it's still really annoying with the insta-kill attacks and no checkpoint after phase 1.
When I was doing Trip’s Final Boss and I was going so fast that I think Fang was under the ground and I couldn’t hit him. This so heartbreaking for me because I was just going to be on the second phase and now I had to go through the entire zone again just to get back there
Honestly the hardest boss for Trip, at least for me, was the bird boss in Frozen Base Act 1. It took me literally days of trying and failing, and I only managed to beat it by carefully getting to it with enough rings to barely last the battle as Super Dragon Trip. I nearly gave up on the game because of it. Her final boss was nothing compared to that boss.
It is easier to create a new civilization on Mars than it is to freaking beat that Fang boss. I got 8 hits on the mech and died thanks to a miss-timed jump on the head butt attack. So infuriating!!!
The best way to get under Fang in the first phase is to stand on the 'crack' at the top of the large hump that's on the 'right' side of it. Stand there, rev up a spin dash, and when he comes in on the one side he'll pause for the brief moment. That's when you release the spin dash. (Could be after he starts going again) but time that well and you'll get under him no problem every time.
The Final Boss fight for Classic Sonic is definitely really cool and the Final Boss for Classic Sonic is definitely hard. The Trip Final Boss fight is technically Classic Sonic Final Boss. I definitely think that the Final Boss for Classic Sonic is more difficult than the Trip Final boss fight but I honestly think that Trip and Classic Sonic Final Boss fight are both difficult. (Thank you for this Guide and great Sonic Superstars video)
When Eggman does zero gravity you can hit actually hit him. I've got this on Switch & Trip's campaign is so hard compared to Sonics, also having instant kill lazer beams & unpredictable descent sections is such a pain in a final boss! I swear these final bosses take more hits on Nintendo's system...
Wanna know what I realized? Every time u die u only get better, I mean like I was dying from the first phase from fang and after afew tries I got past it and made it to phase 2
Eggman fight is easy when you know the patterns. But Fang is a fucking nightmare. They should put at least a checkpoint between phases, it's so frustrating.
Yeah-NO. This still wasn't doing it for me. I was at Fang for about 3 hours straight and that damn web is the cause. Here's what I recommend: PHASE 1: -Missiles- Just jump a second before they hit you. Double jump if you get antsy. Another method that works 99% of the time? Get on a higher hill, rev up a spin dash and just coast. You'll dodge the shots nearly every time, but be ready to jump just in case an upward slope leaves you vulnerable. -He always goes into the spinning bits first- If you're still rolling on auto pilot, there's a chance you could possibly get under him. There are other options though. USE YOUR POWERS. Fire can launch you right over him. Avatar can hit him pretty reliably. Activate it and then turn around so that they come from the opposite side of the screen. You can use Ivy if you've already burned through the other two, but I stopped needing that one pretty early on. Here's the thing. I'd recommend using these powers after he starts using a full circle of bits. Prior to that, just try to get under him or time the lasers. -The dive bomb attack- This actually got me a lot more than I expected it to. The hole he creates can become unavoidable depending on the angle of your jump. The answer? More powers. Specifically Extra and Slow. Also, try to bait him into activating this in the lowest valley areas. For Extra, get far back from where he'll attack and just spam fireballs. He'll dive into them. For Slow, you should still be mindful of the angle of your jumps. If attacking feels risky, don't do it. ALL POWERS WILL RESET ON PHASE TWO PHASE TWO: -The wheelie bugs- Believe it or not, I actually found myself missing my targets by just holding a direction. Trip would often not connect. So instead, pace yourself and try to get the timing right. It feels like stalling your run a bit help even it out. -THE GOD DAMN WEB- Get to the highest slope parts, stand still and wait for the reticle...then pause the game. Yep. Just pause the game and take a moment to study the reticle formation. Unpause and repause as needed to get it just right, where you can see if he's aiming at you or around you. Once they turn red, the attack is locked in, but prior to that, you can mess with its spacing by jumping. This works best when he aims around you, as the spacing will spread out, giving you room to properly escape. Once you know what is coming, move.I find in both cases, jumping is the best solution, since, whenever I tried to just move forward, it would be too late and I'd get caught. Try no to jump too far from where he aims, so that the webs can cluster together, but far enough that you won't get stuck. I think they can be encountered on the opposite end if you circle around, so avoid going too fast. For double assurance, ready the Slow power. If you pause and still feel like you're gonna get caught, hit it before the web gets you. You'll have enough time to mash your way out. As soon as I started pausing to get my bearings and observe my escape vectors, the web became a joke. I think the most dangerous thing about it is the panic it causes, leading to mistakes, which leads to losses and frustration. -The bouncy bombs- Don't just blindly charge in. They can get annoying when they're all flying about and you may miss your chance to hit a green one. -The headbutt- Honestly, he only ever did this once, and that was the run I beat him on. I knew it was coming, but it flew out way faster than I was expecting. I stood by where his fist was going to land and I think I jumped. Whatever happened, I almost immediately bashed his head as it came down, did damage and then was able to land right back next to his arm. I didn't get any practice with this move at all, but I do recall being alarmed with the speed at which it came out, even though I knew to be ready for it. Soooo, yeah. Once I did the pausing thing, I beat him instantly. Hope this helps.
Thanks for posting another video on this W Classic Sonic game, dude! I won't mind if you made a full guide video on every boss in the game since most of them are just frustrating to get past. But then again, it's YOUR Channel so it's up to you. Either way, very helpful and great video! I'm hyped for more videos on tbis epic game!
I do wish that if you died, then you start from a certain point of the boss levels again instead of starting all over. That's the downside to Sonic Superstars.
I am NOT a fan with Fang's final fight, the slog on this is brain numbing, a check point would make this fight bearable, but it's just boring to go through
In mere minutes, this game dropped from a 7/10 to a 5/10 with this godawful boss.
It dropped from 8/10 to 7/10 for me,I really don’t think bosses ruin a game THAT badly
I'm more of a tier person, so it went from a B tier game to a C tier game with this boss
more like 1/10 in my opinion, im a fan of most sonic games but this and 06 are garbage
@@TheBESTRamenOfAllTimeI wish I could say the same. For me the boss fights and lacking multiplayer integration really ruined this game for me. I still think it's an okay game and most of the levels are well designed, but the boss fights make me not want to replay Superstars.
I stopped playing the game after 10 attempts on that boss. I want to do a play through as Trip, thus why I am studying this video. Never in my life have a played a boss so tedious.
I'm sure whoever made Trip's boss wanted players to suffer and nothing but suffering
I’ve been suffering for 30 minutes now
I am suffering 5 days
I feel like this game was styled and aimed for a younger audience compared to other Sonic games, Yet they stick a ridiculous insta-kill boss at the end
I suffered for 5 hours! Just defeated Fang after all that time getting it to second phase & failing on the headbutt part
we need to find those developers who made trip final boss
A single checkpoint for these bosses (including the true final one) would've saved them (maybe not completely but enough where they aren't a super painful slog)
If you aren't able to play without a checkpoint, maybe the problem is you.
@@MrJujux11 its incredibly frustrating to have to restart the ENTIRE boss fight all over again. this game not having mid boss checkpoints is an oddity.
@@MrJujux11if you’re not able to understand the concept of bad game design, maybe the problem is you
Trip’s final battle is one of the hardest bosses I’ve faced in a video game, Mostly the instant kill attacks and the lack of checkpoints really makes fang a hard boss but good guide!
Dude, thank you so much for your tips. The final boss in Trip's Story was driving me nuts. Literally hours of my life spent trying to beat this damn thing.
Got you dude! Its tough and you gotta go through a lot but once it clicks its not too bad (although the no check points is trash lol)
Thanks for posting this! The final boss in the normal story was making go crazy
They really need a checkpoint after you beat the first phase, thankgod this game gives you unlimited lives tho
@@killmydread imagine it was like the OGs where there is lives and game over sends you back to the first level
@@SonicHubYT If it was like that I would definitely rage quit the game
This is one of the worst final bosses I’ve ever played
TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE
worse or one of the hardest or both lol
@@thomaslee2558it’s not that it’s difficult. The second part is a bit and if you mess around and fall off the map (which is how you’re going to die there) you have to reset and do the entire battle again. The beginning battle is a slog to get through. They needed to make the second part a respawn area. It’s not fun for me anymore and I just want to get it over with.
I wouldn’t say it’s the worst, it’s just difficult
I’m losing my sanity
I found the Eggman fight to be just fine, but after 6 hours, I gave up on the Fang fight, even though I was really close to beating. It just wasn’t fun at ALL. Especially without checkpoints.
I felt my blood actually boiling during the fang fight
Eggman fight wasn’t nearly as bad, yeah. Only issue I had was I didn’t know the countdown timer didn’t apply to the boss fight, so I rushed through it.
Fang, on the other hand… what were they thinking?
The Eggman fight is easy once you learn his weakness and good timing helps with his 2nd Phase.
Fang’s 1st Phase was pain but eventually I learned how it worked
2nd Phase feels so stupid no matter how many times I should be hitting his head, he yets me off a cliff and I have to start all over again or get stupidly hit by an object.
If you have to spend 6 hours on a boss fight, you know it’s a trash boss fight.
Guys use tails
The bosses dragged the game down for me, wouldn't mind them getting patched for less hits or just letting us cheese them again
Agreed, these bosses are garbage. Not the "skill issue" clowns can't say anything this time.
@@gravityfallscanadait's like the death egg robot from sonic 2 but 2/3 oh his moves are invincible
@@gravityfallscanadathe fang one got me like: wtf is this boss fight, there should be at least a check point in phase 2, due to the web and insta-kill bottle cap.
@@Leo10572there should also be more rings that spawn after a certain point. They did it in the 90s to have you spend more time with the game and to artificially make it seem harder. These bosses also just take so damn long
@@tek3576 Yea, more rings, time to break out of web, the fairer the fight is
You can actually hit Sonic's final boss during the runner portion when he switches the gravity to zero G. You just need to slowly navigate to his head while floatng and time pressing jump to jumpball into his head. Maneuvering over to his head and timing the hit is easier than you think. Helps a lot to score that free hit and skip the cycle.
Theres a lot of people dont know anything about that 0 gravity gimmick. You can do more than float. The jumpball move during 0 G actually has like 8-10 frames of invulnerability like a dodge move, which you can use for getting through lasers in the earlier level when combined with the fact that you can jump from wall to wall to be fast enough to pass fully through during the dodge.
The jumpball dodge can also save you in the boss fight if you get a little too close to those electricity balls while trying to get the head. Its quite handy but isnt explained anywhere.
Just to add to this, there's two emerald powers that are super useful on the Anti-grav phase. You can use the Vine emerald power just before he starts the phase to move above his head, so when the anti-gravity starts you are already located beyond the energy sparks' range. The Slow Time emerald power can also be used just before he initiates anti-gravity to easily move around before the energy sparks advance too much.
"You should never have to die to the webs, honestly."
*Said seconds after dying to the webs, honestly*
LMAOOO
Thanks for this. I hated Fang’s instant kill attacks. Bad boss design.
They just wanted to pad out the ending lmaooo
Instant Kills and no checkpoint in between both bosses is hands down one of the worst, if not the worst boss designs I’ve ever seen in my 23 years of gaming. I also majored in Game Design in college, and can definitely say that my former instructors would be absolutely appalled by Trip’s final boss.
Fang's first phase would be good enough for a final boss, and the second phase would be tolerable if it was just a separate act entirely. But having to replay the first round (which gets easier with repetition but barely any faster) every time you get hit with one shot garbage is just horrible.
@@ZmanandTails You haven`t played Sonic 2. Death Egg zone. Rings are banned. 2 very hard bosses and no check points. S3K final boss also the same thing. 3 long phases, no rings.
Neither of those fights forces 20 seconds of dead time between each opportunity for an attack. And in both you die when hit because you have no rings, not because some attack breaks the rules and arbitrarily kills you.
For Fang's second "Shadow Clone" attack, use the White Emerald. Trip spits fireballs so you can attack him from a safe distance with no risk of falling or getting hit.
EDIT: May also work with the headbutt. Haven't tried it myself yet
Managed to beat this boss on my second try, It really wasnt that frustrating imo (but thats likely because I used this video for preperation), Also, Heres a tip for people struggling, get caught by the webs and spam every jump button you got, it makes him fire way more early and gives you more running room
That `s weird that you could escape being trapped in webs. For me getting trapped in the webs is ivariable instant death as controls are completely locked and Fang just whacks you with his claw for Screen KO with no way to escape.
Tip: if you get caught by the web, SPAM THE JUMP BUTTON. Not only will you be able to evade getting one-shot, but it'll stop shooting webs and will skip to the part where it spawns enemies and barrel thingies so you can damage it.
It doesn’t seem consistent though. Sometimes I can get out and sometimes I cant
@@rouge939just mash faster
The Eggman boss fight gave me some trouble my first time fighting him (which was on stream), but aside from the bottomless pits he causes, it’s not that bad. Though the lack of a checkpoint sucks. It’s very easy to cheese this boss as Tails (which I did do to get the Golden Enemy Hunter achievement to unlock. It only counts if it’s defeated in the same life you beat the stage with).
Fang drove me nuts. No checkpoints and a common move that instantly kills you is just… awful. The headbutt attack, even if I manage to hit him with it, I fly back, hit his spikey hand, and then get knocked further back into the bottomless pit it made. Not good at all.
1 out of 10 tries, Fang just blasts the whole screen leaving no ground to stay on.
Use the multi character emerald power during the bosses final phase, you can land the final two hits on him before he starts swinging his fists, that way you cut out the bullsh#t before it even has a chance to start to it.
And if you get nocked out of it I think your best bet would be to use the emerald that slows time to get ahead (or bullet to hit him)
I've had them do 3 hits, which is half the phase lmao
Phase 2 of the Eggman fight is a lot less daunting when you break it down. Outside of the gravity mechanic, it's largely just a remixed variation of the Sonic 3 & Knuckles final boss.
Yeah but way worse
No
Yeah but way worse x2
Sonic 3 had a good dynamic, run, hit the nose, hit the emerald, avoid the blast, rinse and repeat until it explodes.
This motherfucker on the other hand is RUN because you can't do shit, wait for him to be vulnerable, hit em, now you are in zero gravity so can't do shit, now Run while you get the AliExpress Master Emerald blasts and if you don't have the Chaos Powers you are fucked because you can't do shit, do that like 2 times, and then he has an attack in which he spins and you can't do shit, he hits you and throws you into the void so now you have to do everything all over again.
fuck this guy.
No, Sonic and knuckles had a tell before the laser you could time. This is just bullshit.
Before watching this video I never knew there was a pattern to eggman’s missiles and your tip of using the emerald powers at the later hits of the second phase is really effective, i used to think it was impossible without using emerald powers
Thank you so much bro
Trip boss is the hardest boss of all video games!!
W
i just rage quit and deleted this game because of eggman 😭
Fang boss phase 2 made me question my sanity and wonder if I should seek a therapist for the amount of anger I felt
Genuine lifesaver. Makes this fight seem way more manageable honestly, heavily appreciate it
Got you!!
You know, during that part when you floating in the air with sonic dodging those balls, you can hit him by floating to his head.
That would’ve been nice to know…if there was like…a better indicator for that or something
I had a strong feeling that was possible, but the section is too easy to just dodge so it might not be worth risking it on a part with guaranteed survivability
trip's boss wouldn't be so bad if there was a checkpoint between phase 1 and 2
phase 1 is so long and boring
About Trip final boss you can use white yellow and blue emeralds to skip hard stuff in first phase, they will refresh in second phase.
And then he shoot webs its better to always try to wait first shoot inside, he always start to shoot you with cannons if he see you trapped between them (very helpful in last hits then he use double cannon)
Tip: Use Tails for the main story final boss, and when Eggman throws his arm or arms down (depending on how many time you hit him) fly up and just tap the fly button and dodge the sparks. Hope this helps! (Found this out myself by the way)
Fang would be good if there was a checkpoint after phase 1
Trip's final boss feels like something from Dark Souls. Glad I'm not the only one suffering like that.
Also on the final boss when your flying around with the lightning bolts you can get to the top of his head
this game has some of the worst boss fights in the sonic series. the fact there's insta kill attacks in 30 min boss fights that never end is shit design. brings a fun game down so damn much
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Sonic Mania: "Finally, a final boss that's not a rehash of the Death Egg Robot!"
Sonic Superstars: "Hold my beer"
These final bosses are like math problems, they are the worst thing ever and your confused, but when you how to solve it becomes fun.
Oh. I thought I was restricted by the timer. That damn thing counting down scared the hell outa me and I was loosing my bloody mind cause of it. But seems I was panicking for no reason. I hate how long these damn stages and boss fights are x,x
I went to the second phase, died once and thought; "Nah lemme check online real quick for once.... I'm not figuring that sh*t on my own!"
Dont blame ya hahaha
I really liked the Fang boss once I knew all the patterns, the only annoying part was the waiting
You know that’s the thing, the forced waiting kills the replayability of the game
@@SonicHubYTwait until you play the Sonic Rush bosses
@@UltraSTHdon't you dare slander that game almost it's bosses are better than this
@@TheNoiseRator nah I LOVE the bosses in Rush, I’m just saying that SonicHub would probably hate them
This guide helped a ton on the fang fight. Once you get the pattern down its quite a bit easier.
Glad I could help 🙏🏻
@@SonicHubYT Imagine if timer can actually kill you.
Cheers bud U got me through this!
I was thinking about not bothering with shadow cus this was giving me so much mental turmoil 👍👍👍
Dude! I glitched through the floor and got stuck in an endless unplayable loop!
The eggman boss wasn't unfair, i just made some dumb mistakes, but the fang one was the point where i want to delete fang.
Something I learned in the Eggman fight is that you CAN actually land an extra hit in phase two when he does the electric attack. It's VERY risky though and you will often get hit on it, but it's worth it to skip through the fight faster because waiting for 8-10 minutes just to die to the arm spin (the VERY LAST HIT, which is so evil) is so unbelievably stupid
In Act 1 the game hints us several times that we can use spin attack during the anti gravity section. I feel like it is the developers’ way of trick us into thinking using spin attack on this pattern is a smart idea. It probably at best save less than 20 seconds so big no for most players.
@@abc2390986 I don't have the patience for another 30 seconds of “dodge lasers, dodge hand slams, get one hit, back to electric attack to repeat”, especially if I’ve been fighting the boss for an hour and died to the last attack 3 times. If I have rings to spare, I'm going for it (especially because I can use the Avatar thing to skip that last hit).
Oh my god the Eggman final fight for me was so annoying thank you sonichub
For trips final boss when fang tries to headbutt the ground use either the red (bullet) or yellow (slow) emerald powers to either reach the top of the screen and tackle him or slow down time to avoid the attack
I quit the game during Trip’s final boss. I already wasn’t having fun with her story, especially with locking the true final boss behind it, and I’d already wasted three hours on this fight alone. But to finally get to the end of the fight only to be killed by some Sonic 4 Episode 1 BS and have seven more minutes of my life go to waste immediately killed any interest I had in ever fully finishing this game. One of the worst bosses I’ve ever fought in a video game, and in a game that already has pretty terrible bosses.
Can’t wait to see all the “skill issue” comment again from fanboys who have no idea what *fair* challenging game design looks, just like with Frontiers Update 3…
Frontiers Update 3 platforming wasnt bad though and ill stand by that lol. But yeah idk what they were thinking at the end of trips story
@@SonicHubYTAgreed. I didn’t struggle with the platforming like a lot of others did. I actually enjoyed it (no checkpoints aside). It was more the second and especially fifth trials that were the problem in that case.
I had a good time with the main story, but Trip's story is unapologetically terrible. 99% of it isn't even hard thanks to her spike wisp ability and having all of the emeralds by that point, it's just poorly designed.
I agree. Trips story kinda sucks and soured my opinion on the game. They should’ve just let you get to the final boss with the chaos emeralds like the other games.
omg, thank you so much sonichub, I really appreciate the boss guide, it really made me stop raging :) .
The freaking level is so hard.
It's so hard oh it's like a pain in the butt
6:13
This is just perfectly out of context
The hitboxes on Trip's boss just don't exist sometimes and it's so infuriating to go straight through his ship and into the insta death bars.
During phase 2 for sonic's final boss (the part where he starts swinging his arms across the map), use the avatar power if you have it, and you can end the fight much earlier
Trip's is quite literally the worst 2D console Sonic experience is history.
All i'm gonna say to you mate is thanks so much for your help I've been trying to defeat that boss with Sonic for a very long time and your guide really helped so thank you very much 😃
@12:32-.+With the variant with a red cursor on you, If you keep doing moving forward, it is possible for the red cursors to a line in such a way that it's physically impossible to not get caught in a web. It happens on inclines. Shut your trap.
Wow!! 13:27 Trips Tips!
My voice hurts from yelling at the game in fangs fight
those instakills hurt me emotionally man
This fight made my blood boil at one point I never felt so hot lmao
I've experienced worse....
You made this hard boss into a easy boss
I actually really enjoyed the Fang boss fight. It's hard, but nothing about it is unfair. You CAN learn how to consistently deal with everything he throws at you.
The 1-hit KO moves can be undoubtedly frustrating. I don't think players play a Sonic game to fight a KH superbosses on Critical mode. But if you already know how to dodge everything, these 1-hit KO moves aren't much different than any other attack.
I died plenty of times when fighting him. But when I won for the first time, it felt genuinely good. That's how I know it was a good boss.
The true final boss though (the purple dragon)? That one's actually bad! It's too luck based. You just hope rings will appear frequently enough close to you so you can survive. His attack patterns are mostly fair, but non of them hurt you (except for the insta-kill black holes, which you have to sacrifice rings to escape from). It happens that, at times, it's preferable to get hit by a move so you can get rings nearby. IN WHAT BOSS WOULD YOU WANT TO PURPOSELY GET HIT??????? Also it takes about 7 minutes to defeat, which is dumb.
There are other not-so-great bosses in the game because you wait too much for openings, but non of them are unfair. I'll genuinely take the Silver boss fight from 06 over the dragon because A. It's relatively short, and B. You can manipulate him to grab stuff so you won't get grabbed yourself. Silver isn't too RNG. This dragon IS unfair.
Imagine if all dragon`s normal attacks (fireballs, lasers, meteors, holey walls etc. )can knock massive amout of rings from Super Sonic (up to 50 rings).
@@5434345 You'll have to spread more rings around and have Sonic start with more than 50 rings to make up for that.
Thanks for this video because I never think I could beat this boss by myself to unlock Trip without this video.
Hey sonichub this game is literally driving me fucking insane you know but I’m happy for you that you beaten the boss
On Knack, I found it just easier to ignore trying to hit him on his headbutt. Cause unlike with Robotnik's headbutt, you don't automatically bounce back to the platform, so it's easy to die and have to go through another 10 minutes, infact you may even just jump through him sometimes somehow. Just ignore it, let him do the bouncing bomb drops again, just survive that attack, don't get greedy, cause the price of greed is way too much time.
Imagine if timer can actually kill you and every missed attack opportunity means death sentence.
Alright for the 2 phase after getting a couple of hits i recommend the blue emerald power the power where you make copies of yourself
All I gotta say is just cause a game doesn't have lives doesn't mean a boss shouldn't have check points, especially when most of the attacks are instant kill, what doesn't help is that the momentum is so hard sometimes it feels like turning around is like moving in molasses
Thank you so much. This guide really helped
Glad I was able to help I know I could have used it 😁
This actually makes the final boss of Sonic 4 Episode 1 seem normal
Is the timer meaningless in Superstars?
Yes
For this boss pretty much yeah
Timer is definitely meaningless. It doesn’t kill you when you hit the 10 minute mark in any stage, and it seems to have no effect.
Actually I think its ko you after 1 hr
10:55 *YOU SHUT YOUR MOUTH, I'VE BEEN WAITING 20 YEARS FOR MY BOI TO COME BACK*
I got into a web (panik)
I spammed out of it (kalm)
The game auto jumped and got me into another web (panik)
The boss shot me (YOU SON OF A B-)
(That happened to me)
Thanks man, this was frustrating
I think imma go play mania
In the first phase, when he does the attack with his ship crashing down. The best spot is to stop at the tallest slope, this will give you more flexibility to attack him.
Eggman and fang really went his god mode
SonicHub, I got the gravity float on final hit,so I slim Jim’d myself to this head, spinned, and
GAME
SONIC WINS!
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How did we go from the best Sonic bosses in Frontiers to THIS!?
Ya'll kept asking for Fang after Mania...well, here he is. Can't wait for the upcoming Bean final boss where he insta kills you with a nuke if you don't flawlessly master his pattern.
@@ClydeJHatbird Trust me, I did not ask for fang and I definitely won't now.
They must have taken inspiration from the garbage in Final Horizon instead
I remember this being similar to Sonic 1 and Sonic 2's bosess from this. No rings means you couldn't afford another mistake at any point of the battle.
I beat Fang finally and finished Tripps story, it took many attempts but I got it done within the day. I also agree the bosses are ridiculously too hard. Idk if they expected little kids that are fans of Sonic to actually get through this or what
Thank you so much dude. Trip's final boss was giving me a really hard time. I probably spent over 2 hours fighting him. Your guide really helped. Like you said, once you understand the patterns, he's not THAT bad. Still, it's still really annoying with the insta-kill attacks and no checkpoint after phase 1.
When I was doing Trip’s Final Boss and I was going so fast that I think Fang was under the ground and I couldn’t hit him. This so heartbreaking for me because I was just going to be on the second phase and now I had to go through the entire zone again just to get back there
Honestly the hardest boss for Trip, at least for me, was the bird boss in Frozen Base Act 1. It took me literally days of trying and failing, and I only managed to beat it by carefully getting to it with enough rings to barely last the battle as Super Dragon Trip.
I nearly gave up on the game because of it. Her final boss was nothing compared to that boss.
This was me asf bro lmao 12:23 😂
It is easier to create a new civilization on Mars than it is to freaking beat that Fang boss. I got 8 hits on the mech and died thanks to a miss-timed jump on the head butt attack. So infuriating!!!
The best way to get under Fang in the first phase is to stand on the 'crack' at the top of the large hump that's on the 'right' side of it. Stand there, rev up a spin dash, and when he comes in on the one side he'll pause for the brief moment. That's when you release the spin dash. (Could be after he starts going again) but time that well and you'll get under him no problem every time.
“Fang The Hunter isn’t real, he can’t hurt you.”
Fang The Hunter:
The Final Boss fight for Classic Sonic is definitely really cool and the Final Boss for Classic Sonic is definitely hard. The Trip Final Boss fight is technically Classic Sonic Final Boss. I definitely think that the Final Boss for Classic Sonic is more difficult than the Trip Final boss fight but I honestly think that Trip and Classic Sonic Final Boss fight are both difficult. (Thank you for this Guide and great Sonic Superstars video)
you can use the Spindash to cross the Fang, and hit him from behind in the First Phase, but he has to be above you, so the Spindash doesn't hit him
6:44 I felt that rage
istg we need a patch for midboss checkpoints and also make it easier like damn
It took me 3 hours to beat the eggman boss because I refused to use the emerald power.
Spindash is your best friend on these bosses
When Eggman does zero gravity you can hit actually hit him.
I've got this on Switch & Trip's campaign is so hard compared to Sonics, also having instant kill lazer beams & unpredictable descent sections is such a pain in a final boss! I swear these final bosses take more hits on Nintendo's system...
Wanna know what I realized? Every time u die u only get better, I mean like I was dying from the first phase from fang and after afew tries I got past it and made it to phase 2
Thanks for the upload I beat it after watching this.
Eggman fight is easy when you know the patterns. But Fang is a fucking nightmare. They should put at least a checkpoint between phases, it's so frustrating.
“He’s gonna start swinging his thing” 💀💀💀
Yeah-NO. This still wasn't doing it for me. I was at Fang for about 3 hours straight and that damn web is the cause. Here's what I recommend:
PHASE 1:
-Missiles-
Just jump a second before they hit you. Double jump if you get antsy. Another method that works 99% of the time? Get on a higher hill, rev up a spin dash and just coast. You'll dodge the shots nearly every time, but be ready to jump just in case an upward slope leaves you vulnerable.
-He always goes into the spinning bits first-
If you're still rolling on auto pilot, there's a chance you could possibly get under him. There are other options though. USE YOUR POWERS. Fire can launch you right over him. Avatar can hit him pretty reliably. Activate it and then turn around so that they come from the opposite side of the screen. You can use Ivy if you've already burned through the other two, but I stopped needing that one pretty early on. Here's the thing. I'd recommend using these powers after he starts using a full circle of bits. Prior to that, just try to get under him or time the lasers.
-The dive bomb attack-
This actually got me a lot more than I expected it to. The hole he creates can become unavoidable depending on the angle of your jump. The answer? More powers. Specifically Extra and Slow. Also, try to bait him into activating this in the lowest valley areas. For Extra, get far back from where he'll attack and just spam fireballs. He'll dive into them. For Slow, you should still be mindful of the angle of your jumps. If attacking feels risky, don't do it.
ALL POWERS WILL RESET ON PHASE TWO
PHASE TWO:
-The wheelie bugs-
Believe it or not, I actually found myself missing my targets by just holding a direction. Trip would often not connect. So instead, pace yourself and try to get the timing right. It feels like stalling your run a bit help even it out.
-THE GOD DAMN WEB-
Get to the highest slope parts, stand still and wait for the reticle...then pause the game. Yep. Just pause the game and take a moment to study the reticle formation. Unpause and repause as needed to get it just right, where you can see if he's aiming at you or around you. Once they turn red, the attack is locked in, but prior to that, you can mess with its spacing by jumping. This works best when he aims around you, as the spacing will spread out, giving you room to properly escape. Once you know what is coming, move.I find in both cases, jumping is the best solution, since, whenever I tried to just move forward, it would be too late and I'd get caught.
Try no to jump too far from where he aims, so that the webs can cluster together, but far enough that you won't get stuck. I think they can be encountered on the opposite end if you circle around, so avoid going too fast. For double assurance, ready the Slow power. If you pause and still feel like you're gonna get caught, hit it before the web gets you. You'll have enough time to mash your way out.
As soon as I started pausing to get my bearings and observe my escape vectors, the web became a joke. I think the most dangerous thing about it is the panic it causes, leading to mistakes, which leads to losses and frustration.
-The bouncy bombs-
Don't just blindly charge in. They can get annoying when they're all flying about and you may miss your chance to hit a green one.
-The headbutt-
Honestly, he only ever did this once, and that was the run I beat him on. I knew it was coming, but it flew out way faster than I was expecting. I stood by where his fist was going to land and I think I jumped. Whatever happened, I almost immediately bashed his head as it came down, did damage and then was able to land right back next to his arm. I didn't get any practice with this move at all, but I do recall being alarmed with the speed at which it came out, even though I knew to be ready for it.
Soooo, yeah. Once I did the pausing thing, I beat him instantly. Hope this helps.
Omg thank you! Your video saved me from that nasty headbutt. Probably would have lost if it wasn’t for you!
Sonic’s Final Boss makes Frontiers Update 3 look like a joke.
Awesome tip thanks
Beating fang/nack is the best feeling ever
Trips boss fight pissed me off to the point where I deleted the game multiple times for some time then come back to it when I feel like it haha
Thanks for posting another video on this W Classic Sonic game, dude! I won't mind if you made a full guide video on every boss in the game since most of them are just frustrating to get past. But then again, it's YOUR Channel so it's up to you. Either way, very helpful and great video! I'm hyped for more videos on tbis epic game!
I do wish that if you died, then you start from a certain point of the boss levels again instead of starting all over. That's the downside to Sonic Superstars.
I finally defeated Fang after 5 hours getting it to second phase & failing due to that headbutt part
I am NOT a fan with Fang's final fight, the slog on this is brain numbing, a check point would make this fight bearable, but it's just boring to go through
The Fang fight is not fun, It's not hard once you learn it, But it's drawn out and plain tedious getting back to phase 2