Thanks for bringing up my comment about DJ’s drop. It is definitely a more nuanced discussion as every scenario is different. But I would advise y’all to examine other Elite QB drops. Mixed bag of drops is what you’ll find. Im just noticing a trend in his drop. Good analysis as always . Keep it up!
Top notch breakdown men! I feel bad for y’all. We “regular” fans only have to suffer through this shit once. How y’all are able to watch this trash multiple times is hard for me to fathom.
Guys - I'm a regular watcher/listener. You guys do a great job and make being a Giants wayyyyyy more fun than it should be. Thanks for your efforts and please let me know how I can support the pod other than liking/commenting/subbing.
Every time I watched for this, Jones never once took his eyes off the receiver he threw to. If we can see this on TV, how easy is this for the defense? So discouraging!
Nick look into hard wiring your computer to the router with Ethernet. If it’s far, they sell powerline adapters so the Ethernet could travel over the power lines and out the electrical sockets.
I definitely commend you guys (which I will do by liking the video and commenting) for taking time out of your day to break down this pathetic excuse of an offense.
33:05 the reason Jones has 9 lives is that the Giants don't make him sing for his supper. If QB2 is Drew Lock, then sure you have to go with Jones. The Giants have had opportunities to sign better back up QBs and chose not to do that. I blame the front office for why we don't have a guy who can play the game at a high level consistently.
I accept your assessment that DJ is the best QB on the roster. But, so what? How many wins will DJ and this offense give us the rest of the year? Three, maybe five or six? If we make the playoffs with an 8-9 record, so what? Maybe this is irrational, but I am just tired of watching this offense led by DJ. I want to be enthused and hopeful about seeing what a different QB can do. If Lock is as bad or worse than DJ, then I want to see DeVito. Let me see something different. Let me see worse QB play than I've seen from DJ. If it comes down to it, I'd rather see DeVito be developed as a backup rather than having to watch more of DJ. If DeVito played the rest of the season, at least I would have hope each game that he might take a small step forward. I think most Giants fans would agree with me on all this. I understand that Daboll wants to win and is somewhat coaching for his job. He probably keeps his job if he goes 8-9 with DJ. How likely is that? Does he keep his job if he goes 6-11 or 7-10 with DJ and lose it if he goes 4-13 or 5-12 with Lock and DeVito? Daboll, Schoen, and Mara should sit down and decide what to do. Will Mara want DJ to play because he thinks the fans will accept 6 or 7 wins and not 4 or 5? You guys are great. I watched the game and as a fan, I thought I could see DJ being late on several throws. You guys confirm that and I don't feel bad that maybe I am being overly critical. Thanks.
You are not "irrational" for being tired of watching a DJ-led offense. You are not "a hater" for being tired of watching a DJ-led offense. It doesn't make you less of a fan to be sick of watching an inconsistent (this is generous) thrower of the ball and an offense that does NOT score touchdowns. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.
Putting DJ aside, I am pissed the Giants got away from duo run blocking and tried to zone block. It failed miserably against Dallas and we saw the same thing against the Bengals. We simply CANNOT zone block, we need to be a team that relies on duo/power gap with occasional pulling guards. That will set up play action passing.
Is nick stealing wi if from his neighbor…feels like a MS Teams call. Could not see the film reviews from start to finish. The video was sketch, cutting frames
So here's the thing...there isn't much that we can do at this point. Jones is the guy... It's not like Daboll and Schoen didn't know that Jones plays like this...Right? I have to believe that Daboll believes that Jones can still improve, why else would they keep playing him? Is it possible that they see something in him that others don't? There aren't any real options now and I really don't see many, if any, alternatives to Jones in the future either. I don't think the class coming out has any solutions. We have to hope that Jones gets better.
Definitely a bad game all around from the offense, specifically to the QB, do you think those early hits on those QB runs may have impacted him throwing the ball in second half..i did notice quite a bit of shots to his throwing shoulder...that first play in second half to Slayton was alarming considering thats a throw he is typically good at. And i get it his QB arm is nothing to rave about but that's a throw he is usually successful with. Thoughts?.
I think lock could get us some more wow plays just because he has a better arm and he may go off script jones can’t do that at this point I just want to see big plays just like every other team smh so frustrated
Dan’s just being a jones hater. Daniel jones is one of the best QBs I have ever seen and if we could just get him two more wr ones, an all pro lineman at every position and the opposing defense not of the field then he can take us to a Super Bowl.
Okay. What is the answer? I like your podcast until you turn it into the DJ bashing. You know what you have in him. Why keep repeating the same thing over and over again.
Why? Becauase they keep trotting him out as their unquestioned QB1 and our job is to analyze the tape of this Giants team and this Giants has team has Daniel Jones as their QB1. Seems pretty straight forward to me. We are forced to repeat ourselves because we are forced to evaluate tape like this one time and time again for six years.
@@danschneier513 Okay. What are your true expectations of him and this team. If you want a new QB1 him playing poorly will get the Giants closer to the #1 pick. I’m confused. I screamed no when they drafted him, but as a fan I gave him a chance. The guy can play and they can win with him, but I do agree he has flaws to his game. The organization set him up for failure. Do you truly believe these WRs are above WR3 excluding Nabers. Their limitations handcuff the QB and play calling also. So the overall play of the Offense will probably be inconsistent. Not to mention certain matchups do you agree? It’s easy to blame DJ for loses. Drops, turnovers, blocking, special teams, missed assignments, defense. A team sport at the end of the day.
not gonna lie, starting to enjoy Dan raging on these videos 😂
Sometimes his arm identifies as an NFL arm 😂 lmfao great stuff as usual guys
Agree 100% with Dan - we need a REAL Quarterback.
Thanks for bringing up my comment about DJ’s drop. It is definitely a more nuanced discussion as every scenario is different. But I would advise y’all to examine other Elite QB drops. Mixed bag of drops is what you’ll find. Im just noticing a trend in his drop. Good analysis as always . Keep it up!
Top notch breakdown men! I feel bad for y’all. We “regular” fans only have to suffer through this shit once. How y’all are able to watch this trash multiple times is hard for me to fathom.
Guys - I'm a regular watcher/listener. You guys do a great job and make being a Giants wayyyyyy more fun than it should be. Thanks for your efforts and please let me know how I can support the pod other than liking/commenting/subbing.
Every time I watched for this, Jones never once took his eyes off the receiver he threw to. If we can see this on TV, how easy is this for the defense? So discouraging!
Thanks Nick and Dan! I never miss a show.
PS Are videos capable of slow motion? And a pointer, please!
It would be a fabulous aid to seeing and understanding play development.
IDGAF if Jones 'identifies' as Joe Montana.. he AIN'T Joe Montana. PS luv Dan's righteous rants..
The best giants podcast hands down, good stuff boys
Nick look into hard wiring your computer to the router with Ethernet. If it’s far, they sell powerline adapters so the Ethernet could travel over the power lines and out the electrical sockets.
Thanks for all the hard work
STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HIT THE THUMBS UP! It's just the right thing to do.
I definitely commend you guys (which I will do by liking the video and commenting) for taking time out of your day to break down this pathetic excuse of an offense.
43:05 took the words right out of my mouth Dan. Couldn’t have said it better.
I’ve never hated a Giants player more than I hate DJ 😭
33:05 the reason Jones has 9 lives is that the Giants don't make him sing for his supper. If QB2 is Drew Lock, then sure you have to go with Jones. The Giants have had opportunities to sign better back up QBs and chose not to do that. I blame the front office for why we don't have a guy who can play the game at a high level consistently.
dropping a like and comment and coming back in the am to listen on my way to work lol
Frustration is an understatement when it comes to DJ. Everything and everyone has changed around him. Same results. Time to move on.
This should be interesting,I’ll keep my opinion to myself until I watch the podcast
I accept your assessment that DJ is the best QB on the roster. But, so what? How many wins will DJ and this offense give us the rest of the year? Three, maybe five or six? If we make the playoffs with an 8-9 record, so what?
Maybe this is irrational, but I am just tired of watching this offense led by DJ. I want to be enthused and hopeful about seeing what a different QB can do. If Lock is as bad or worse than DJ, then I want to see DeVito. Let me see something different. Let me see worse QB play than I've seen from DJ. If it comes down to it, I'd rather see DeVito be developed as a backup rather than having to watch more of DJ. If DeVito played the rest of the season, at least I would have hope each game that he might take a small step forward. I think most Giants fans would agree with me on all this.
I understand that Daboll wants to win and is somewhat coaching for his job. He probably keeps his job if he goes 8-9 with DJ. How likely is that? Does he keep his job if he goes 6-11 or 7-10 with DJ and lose it if he goes 4-13 or 5-12 with Lock and DeVito? Daboll, Schoen, and Mara should sit down and decide what to do. Will Mara want DJ to play because he thinks the fans will accept 6 or 7 wins and not 4 or 5?
You guys are great. I watched the game and as a fan, I thought I could see DJ being late on several throws. You guys confirm that and I don't feel bad that maybe I am being overly critical. Thanks.
You are not "irrational" for being tired of watching a DJ-led offense. You are not "a hater" for being tired of watching a DJ-led offense. It doesn't make you less of a fan to be sick of watching an inconsistent (this is generous) thrower of the ball and an offense that does NOT score touchdowns. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.
Potential mixed with frustration.
Putting DJ aside, I am pissed the Giants got away from duo run blocking and tried to zone block. It failed miserably against Dallas and we saw the same thing against the Bengals. We simply CANNOT zone block, we need to be a team that relies on duo/power gap with occasional pulling guards. That will set up play action passing.
Is nick stealing wi if from his neighbor…feels like a MS Teams call. Could not see the film reviews from start to finish. The video was sketch, cutting frames
Van Rottwn got cooked but it’s cool we’ll have a better guard next year and hopefully retain him as a back up
Agreed. I love bringing in a day 2 rookie or Trey Smith and GVR can be swing interior backup
Wow do yall see josh Allen in this jets game we need someone like him😢😢😢
The next time DJ has a good game, do NOT think there's hope - there's not. DJ will not consistently beat good teams.
Just brutal, the consistent inconsistency
So here's the thing...there isn't much that we can do at this point. Jones is the guy... It's not like Daboll and Schoen didn't know that Jones plays like this...Right? I have to believe that Daboll believes that Jones can still improve, why else would they keep playing him? Is it possible that they see something in him that others don't? There aren't any real options now and I really don't see many, if any, alternatives to Jones in the future either. I don't think the class coming out has any solutions. We have to hope that Jones gets better.
i was at the game. at least 4 times i thought we would take the lead.this qb is terrible!! 1 read, no progressions!!!
Nick sounds like motherboard from cyber chaser when the villain is trying to hack her
Daniel jones gets how many chances and Evan Neal can’t get another one?
Definitely a bad game all around from the offense, specifically to the QB, do you think those early hits on those QB runs may have impacted him throwing the ball in second half..i did notice quite a bit of shots to his throwing shoulder...that first play in second half to Slayton was alarming considering thats a throw he is typically good at. And i get it his QB arm is nothing to rave about but that's a throw he is usually successful with. Thoughts?.
Y'all being weird with this DJ thing I get it he didn't play well but you cannot blame him for a receiver almost getting a concussion that's not right
I think lock could get us some more wow plays just because he has a better arm and he may go off script jones can’t do that at this point I just want to see big plays just like every other team smh so frustrated
Dan’s just being a jones hater. Daniel jones is one of the best QBs I have ever seen and if we could just get him two more wr ones, an all pro lineman at every position and the opposing defense not of the field then he can take us to a Super Bowl.
Don't forget about a better play caller too!
Hyatt needs to be utilized inside the numbers
He can't run routes could only run crossers and Jones would probably miss him anyway 😴
@@manray371 he has success inside the numbers he's not a great boundary wr most Hyatt success last year came from in side the numbers 💯
Okay. What is the answer?
I like your podcast until you turn it into the DJ bashing. You know what you have in him. Why keep repeating the same thing over and over again.
Why? Becauase they keep trotting him out as their unquestioned QB1 and our job is to analyze the tape of this Giants team and this Giants has team has Daniel Jones as their QB1. Seems pretty straight forward to me. We are forced to repeat ourselves because we are forced to evaluate tape like this one time and time again for six years.
@@danschneier513 Okay. What are your true expectations of him and this team. If you want a new QB1 him playing poorly will get the Giants closer to the #1 pick. I’m confused. I screamed no when they drafted him, but as a fan I gave him a chance. The guy can play and they can win with him, but I do agree he has flaws to his game. The organization set him up for failure. Do you truly believe these WRs are above WR3 excluding Nabers. Their limitations handcuff the QB and play calling also. So the overall play of the Offense will probably be inconsistent. Not to mention certain matchups do you agree? It’s easy to blame DJ for loses. Drops, turnovers, blocking, special teams, missed assignments, defense. A team sport at the end of the day.
Why do you hate us? All we do is give you love, and you give us this?
Nicks wifi cooked the film breakdown but love the commentary and insight nevertheless 🫡