This video was made strictly for fun. Both of these are great and very fun to shoot. The rear sight on both rifles are set at a minimum distance of 200 yards, which is why they both were shooting high. Thanks for watching.
My grandfather was a soldier in Norway from 1931 to 1959 and he said to me that of all the weapons he used the Krag Jørgensen was his favoritt after he passed the Krag Jørgensen he owed was given to me and i get why he loved it so much
My great grandfather was tortured in by the gestapo in arkivet kristiansand and prisoner in grini in bærum and møllergata19 in Oslo luckily he survived and he had a Krag Jørgensen he before ww2 he was 21 in the war he passed down his Krag to my grandfather and I got to hold it and I could feel him watching me from the clouds🇳🇴🫡
I like them both. My grandfather was a retired US Army Philippine Scout Cavalryman (26th Cav Regiment Philippine Scouts. 1915-1946). He trained and was issued the Krag Jorgenson then Enfield M1917 then issued a M1903 Springfield).
The reloading mechanism is exactly what puts me off of it. You can always reload a bolt action rifle like the Kar98K/Lee Enfield with single rounds if you want, just like the Krag. But you can never reload a Krag with stripper clips.
It seems to me like the Krag would've been a superior infantry weapon if they made it a few inches shorter, designed a new version of 30-40 that was rimless and worked out a charger clip design for it like the ones used for the K-31. K-31 clips already work for krags.
Nah. The Krag was cumbersome and overly complicated. The Mauser system the 1903 used was less smooth but much simpler and easier to load, and the action could handle vastly more powerful loads.
I feel like if you had a handful of ammo for the krag, it would load faster. Instead of grabbing one round at a time. However, in every video I see, people are reloading their krags by dropping one in at a time. Couldn't you have 5 rounds in your hand, and drop in at a time? My next question, since I don't own a Krag, could you drop all five into the magazine at once? Also, without stripper clips is the Springfield still faster? Thanks for the video, I love both of these guns.
The Krag feels more 'unique' in my opinion and the ability to top off rounds without opening the action is a great feature. Both rifles are great but the Springfield feels like just another mauser.
I own the krag and have used the 03 extensively. I agree that it is a strange comparison. A few things you might not consider. Regardless of the test shown here, I would argue the Krag is the more accurate rifle, though when dealing with such old models you have to consider ware which will vary greatly in existing examples of each rifle. I would also point out that the 06 round really is better for distance marksmanship and was used well into WWII as a sniper rifle and unlike the film, SGT York captured so many Germans by raining down holy hell on German machine guns at a distance they couldn't retaliate from. That being said, the reason we changed to the Garande for WWII was because most soldiers couldn't make use of the extra range afforded to the bolt action 03, and even downsizing to the 5.56 was partly due to most engagements and proficiencies maxing out at 300 yards, of which the krag is more than capable. Even the idea of adopting the 06 round had much more to do with machine gun ballistics than rifles as the thought process at the time was to chamber the infantry rifle and machine guns in the same calibre and there are no 30 Army Machine guns I'm aware of, largely having to do with the rimmed cartridge, which was largely what played into the adoption of the Krag. Since the round was developed first, rim and all, the army originally wanted a single shot rifle like the rolling block, but in trials, they decided they wanted a magazine, but were afraid of rimlock, and the krag design prevents rimlock from occuring. I also much prefer the sights on the krag and they do make excellent deer rifles. I would also like to point out that most of the videos I see about the krag have the shooter load one round at a time, when you really can dump a handful of ammo in. Not suggesting that it is as fast as a clip by any means, but it seems every channel wants to highlight the flaw of the side gate by loading as slow as possible to show contrast. The bolt is the fasted bolt action I've ever used and that is largely because of the lack of locking mechanisms required for the 30-40 krag (originally known as 30 Army which the predated the rifle in the army's trials). The best version of the Krag, which were built in the respective countries of Denmark, USA, and Norway as Krag didn't actually manufacture any weapons aside from prototypes, was the Norwegian variation as it was the the last designed with several improvements and also had a superior 6.5 x 55 Swede cartridge, and specifically the 1912 carbine being designed for hot spitzer rounds. Unlike the American krags, which were standard issue to engineers in WWI as well as being adopted by the navy for same, the Norwegians kept the rifle well past WWII, though it could be argued it had to do with them staying neutral outside of covert operations in Finland.
One other detail, as I hear a lot of references to the Spanish American War, is that most Krags that exist today have improvements that were updates to the rifles used in said war. I would also point out that the cavalry didn't use the krag, as the carbine krags didn't come out till 1899, and instead used Winchester 1895s, which if you aren't familiar, didn't have a tube magazine and had much more powerful spitzer rounds that Teddy Rosevelt described as being able to punch through Spanish defenses. The 1895s were only approved for cavalry as the army didn't like lever action rifles due to their procieved weakness at prone fire, though the 1895's were also used by the Russians in WWI. Last interesting fact, but speaking of the army's disdain for lever guns, a little known fact is there were actually two survivors of the Custer massacre who retreated back to camp where there were boxes of Winchester 66s that only two men were able to effectively fend off the entire Native attack, but Custer, despite having enough rifles to issue to his entire unit, refused to hand them out.
I think it would make more sense to compare the 1903 Springfield with the Mauser G98 or the Kar98k. Both have the same type of action, use a stripper clip feed, and are known for accuracy.
Technically the 1903 is an adaptation of the Model 93 Mauser with an added safety lug. It’s unlikely the US would have been able to copy a 98 that fast. Whereas the US also had tons of captured 93s from the Span-Am War a few years prior.
I would say overall the Springfield was the superior rifle, but the only reason the tests which saw it adopted in the first place happened was because of issues with the Springfield M1892-99 which had ironically mostly been corrected. It had been strengthened to allow it to deal with higher pressures, and there were at least two mechanisms invented which let it be loaded more quickly, one being a loading cassette which handily dumped five rounds in all at once, and the other a handy stripper clip which functioned by setting into a guide rail installed next to the magazine hatch. I would also like to point out you could load six rounds into the Krag, which may seem small, but one extra round could be a life saver in a fight. You could do the same thing with the M1917. That said, in terms of range and accuracy to my knowledge the '03 was still superior, and adopting it was a fine choice.
El Krag Jorgensen es un fusil excelente que fué de dotación en el ejército de EEUU - calibre 30/40. Hermoso y demasiado fino. Lo adoptaron después del desastre de la Colina San Juan en Cuba - donde los españoles con el modelo 1893 calibre 7 mm los superaban por lejos. El Springfield tiene la acción Mauser 98 - por la cual los EEUU debieron pagar en ese entonces 230 mil domares de derechos y royalty - porque Mauser los denunció ya que copiaron su acción sin autorización. Los dos son importantes exponentes de la historia militar y las armas. Sds
You can see from the video just how much more smoothly and rapidly one can work the Krag bolt. What lets the Krag down is the slowness of reloading, as well as the limited strength of that single locking lug mechanism.
As a civilian i would much rather have the krag rifle for its smoothness and its power is plenty enough. If i were fighting in the Philippines or France id much rather have the Springfield for its ruggedness
Imo, the Krag is better considering both would be secondary to the Garand. Krag is superior because action is smoother and can be reloaded faster with a scope mounted. Krag offers an easier opportunity to ''top up'' without having to open the bolt as well.
1:46 Oh Yeah I should mention there’s a technique with loading the krag, the krag stack, generally what you do is that when you load the 5 bullets in the mag open the bolt and put an extra bullet right to the barrel and there you have 6 rounds to work with
El Krag Jorgensen es excelente. Su calibre 30/40 muy efectivo y su sistema de carga original pero complicado. El Springfield tiene acción Mauser - porque compraron los derechos para copiarla ( previa demanda de Mauser ) y su calibre 30.03 primero y 30.06 después. De todos modos ninguno de los dos supera al Mauser 1898. 🐜
It's funny that the "land of the guns" had a Norwegian rifle and then a basically German rifle rip off as service weapons until they developed their own, which was invented by a Canadian anyway
i would say its about the same exept for the reload as the springfield has a way faster reload and fire rate i would acturly say the krag wins as the reson it got 22 seconds was because of the long reload
You could have loaded the Krag with 1 in the chamber to make it 6 rounds, then you could have loaded 1 directly into the chamber for a more direct and accurate comparison. There is also a speedloader for the Krag similar to the speed loading clip for the Springfield that would have been a better comparison for a firearm vs firearm video. The Krag would win hands down.
This video was made strictly for fun. Both of these are great and very fun to shoot. The rear sight on both rifles are set at a minimum distance of 200 yards, which is why they both were shooting high. Thanks for watching.
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My grandfather was a soldier in Norway from 1931 to 1959 and he said to me that of all the weapons he used the Krag Jørgensen was his favoritt after he passed the Krag Jørgensen he owed was given to me and i get why he loved it so much
Smooth reload and shooting right?
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My great grandfather was tortured in by the gestapo in arkivet kristiansand and prisoner in grini in bærum and møllergata19 in Oslo luckily he survived and he had a Krag Jørgensen he before ww2 he was 21 in the war he passed down his Krag to my grandfather and I got to hold it and I could feel him watching me from the clouds🇳🇴🫡
I like them both.
My grandfather was a retired US Army Philippine Scout Cavalryman (26th Cav Regiment Philippine Scouts. 1915-1946). He trained and was issued the Krag Jorgenson then Enfield M1917 then issued a M1903 Springfield).
I would prefer the krag.
It has a interesting reloading mechanism and can be chambered in a lot of calibers.
Well well I bet those soldiers in Cuba in 1898 would beg to differ.
@@elhistoriero1227 I would, the spanish mauser was stripper clip fed whereas the krag had to be loaded one round at a time
The reloading mechanism is exactly what puts me off of it.
You can always reload a bolt action rifle like the Kar98K/Lee Enfield with single rounds if you want, just like the Krag.
But you can never reload a Krag with stripper clips.
@@elhistoriero1227 We won in Cuba
@@m26pershing98 Yeah but you struggled in San Juan Hill and the rifles you used had to do with it.
It seems to me like the Krag would've been a superior infantry weapon if they made it a few inches shorter, designed a new version of 30-40 that was rimless and worked out a charger clip design for it like the ones used for the K-31. K-31 clips already work for krags.
Nah. The Krag was cumbersome and overly complicated. The Mauser system the 1903 used was less smooth but much simpler and easier to load, and the action could handle vastly more powerful loads.
We all know the Springfield is pretty Iconic, but the Krag just has everything going for it. I hope to one day own a Krag.
Same and i also want a krag.
Except for relaoding...
@@宋教仁-b4i might not be as fast as an Arisaka rifle but cool nonetheless
You should
I noticed the Krag sounds quieter than the Springfield when firing.
its the position of the mic compared to the muzzle, the blast is hitting it more in the 1903.
Been playing a lot of Sniper Elite lately. And that Sniping game series has slowly made me fall in love with the Springfield 1903
The action on the Krag looks so smooth :D .
Krags and Lee Enfields have the smoothest bolts I've ever used.
2:30 I think it would have been faster to have loaded the Krag 5+1, and just topped off with a single bullet to get the 7th shot.
It's a confident shooter who parks his car just a few degrees off this rifle range.
Exploding soda bottles are glorious!! I love the jeep in the yard, are you a hick? No joke, hicks are the best!!! Great video 👍👍
Both are beautiful classic rifles but the Springfield M1903 is my favorite!
I feel like if you had a handful of ammo for the krag, it would load faster. Instead of grabbing one round at a time. However, in every video I see, people are reloading their krags by dropping one in at a time. Couldn't you have 5 rounds in your hand, and drop in at a time? My next question, since I don't own a Krag, could you drop all five into the magazine at once? Also, without stripper clips is the Springfield still faster? Thanks for the video, I love both of these guns.
The Krag feels more 'unique' in my opinion and the ability to top off rounds without opening the action is a great feature. Both rifles are great but the Springfield feels like just another mauser.
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I own the krag and have used the 03 extensively. I agree that it is a strange comparison. A few things you might not consider. Regardless of the test shown here, I would argue the Krag is the more accurate rifle, though when dealing with such old models you have to consider ware which will vary greatly in existing examples of each rifle. I would also point out that the 06 round really is better for distance marksmanship and was used well into WWII as a sniper rifle and unlike the film, SGT York captured so many Germans by raining down holy hell on German machine guns at a distance they couldn't retaliate from. That being said, the reason we changed to the Garande for WWII was because most soldiers couldn't make use of the extra range afforded to the bolt action 03, and even downsizing to the 5.56 was partly due to most engagements and proficiencies maxing out at 300 yards, of which the krag is more than capable. Even the idea of adopting the 06 round had much more to do with machine gun ballistics than rifles as the thought process at the time was to chamber the infantry rifle and machine guns in the same calibre and there are no 30 Army Machine guns I'm aware of, largely having to do with the rimmed cartridge, which was largely what played into the adoption of the Krag. Since the round was developed first, rim and all, the army originally wanted a single shot rifle like the rolling block, but in trials, they decided they wanted a magazine, but were afraid of rimlock, and the krag design prevents rimlock from occuring. I also much prefer the sights on the krag and they do make excellent deer rifles. I would also like to point out that most of the videos I see about the krag have the shooter load one round at a time, when you really can dump a handful of ammo in. Not suggesting that it is as fast as a clip by any means, but it seems every channel wants to highlight the flaw of the side gate by loading as slow as possible to show contrast. The bolt is the fasted bolt action I've ever used and that is largely because of the lack of locking mechanisms required for the 30-40 krag (originally known as 30 Army which the predated the rifle in the army's trials). The best version of the Krag, which were built in the respective countries of Denmark, USA, and Norway as Krag didn't actually manufacture any weapons aside from prototypes, was the Norwegian variation as it was the the last designed with several improvements and also had a superior 6.5 x 55 Swede cartridge, and specifically the 1912 carbine being designed for hot spitzer rounds. Unlike the American krags, which were standard issue to engineers in WWI as well as being adopted by the navy for same, the Norwegians kept the rifle well past WWII, though it could be argued it had to do with them staying neutral outside of covert operations in Finland.
One other detail, as I hear a lot of references to the Spanish American War, is that most Krags that exist today have improvements that were updates to the rifles used in said war. I would also point out that the cavalry didn't use the krag, as the carbine krags didn't come out till 1899, and instead used Winchester 1895s, which if you aren't familiar, didn't have a tube magazine and had much more powerful spitzer rounds that Teddy Rosevelt described as being able to punch through Spanish defenses. The 1895s were only approved for cavalry as the army didn't like lever action rifles due to their procieved weakness at prone fire, though the 1895's were also used by the Russians in WWI. Last interesting fact, but speaking of the army's disdain for lever guns, a little known fact is there were actually two survivors of the Custer massacre who retreated back to camp where there were boxes of Winchester 66s that only two men were able to effectively fend off the entire Native attack, but Custer, despite having enough rifles to issue to his entire unit, refused to hand them out.
I think it would make more sense to compare the 1903 Springfield with the Mauser G98 or the Kar98k. Both have the same type of action, use a stripper clip feed, and are known for accuracy.
Technically the 1903 is an adaptation of the Model 93 Mauser with an added safety lug. It’s unlikely the US would have been able to copy a 98 that fast. Whereas the US also had tons of captured 93s from the Span-Am War a few years prior.
That soda bottle test was Glorious! 🤟🏾🔥💯
I recently got a 03 Springfield for 500 bucks sporterized got the parts to convert it back they are amazing
I would say overall the Springfield was the superior rifle, but the only reason the tests which saw it adopted in the first place happened was because of issues with the Springfield M1892-99 which had ironically mostly been corrected.
It had been strengthened to allow it to deal with higher pressures, and there were at least two mechanisms invented which let it be loaded more quickly, one being a loading cassette which handily dumped five rounds in all at once, and the other a handy stripper clip which functioned by setting into a guide rail installed next to the magazine hatch.
I would also like to point out you could load six rounds into the Krag, which may seem small, but one extra round could be a life saver in a fight. You could do the same thing with the M1917.
That said, in terms of range and accuracy to my knowledge the '03 was still superior, and adopting it was a fine choice.
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Thanks man for watching!
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Hey quick question, where do you mount your camera, because i wanna record a short video of shooting a small 9 mil? thnx
For the GoPro footage I use a head mount. Thank you for the question.
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El Krag Jorgensen es un fusil excelente que fué de dotación en el ejército de EEUU - calibre 30/40.
Hermoso y demasiado fino.
Lo adoptaron después del desastre de la Colina San Juan en Cuba - donde los españoles con el modelo 1893 calibre 7 mm los superaban por lejos.
El Springfield tiene la acción Mauser 98 - por la cual los EEUU debieron pagar en ese entonces 230 mil domares de derechos y royalty - porque Mauser los denunció ya que copiaron su acción sin autorización.
Los dos son importantes exponentes de la historia militar y las armas.
Sds
The KRAG has a smoother lock and load (excuse me but I am not a gun expert)....Can an adjustment be made to the 1903 for a smoother lock and load?
7:35. Almost made a cola splash.
8:55 That was bloody outrageous!
Krag-Jorgensen 1898: Who are you?
Springfield M1903: I'm you but better.
You can use the mosin clip to load the krag rifle
Hey can i take your video about the m1903 for example in my project,i will put the credit for your channel???.
Very cool
I love this channel, cheers from Brazil, never give up about your 2nd Amendment rights.
Bro where do you get krag ammo? I can't find any anywhere!
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This is a really cool test
Thanks man I appreciate it!
You can see from the video just how much more smoothly and rapidly one can work the Krag bolt. What lets the Krag down is the slowness of reloading, as well as the limited strength of that single locking lug mechanism.
You can just use a mauser speedloader if you want faster reloads. :)
I think the krag jørgensen action would be a great action for a hunting rifle
As a civilian i would much rather have the krag rifle for its smoothness and its power is plenty enough. If i were fighting in the Philippines or France id much rather have the Springfield for its ruggedness
Imo, the Krag is better considering both would be secondary to the Garand. Krag is superior because action is smoother and can be reloaded faster with a scope mounted. Krag offers an easier opportunity to ''top up'' without having to open the bolt as well.
Your an idiot.
The neato thing for me about the krag is you can load individual arounds to top off in case of battle.
Can you try reloading Krag wit Mosin clips?
1:46 Oh Yeah I should mention there’s a technique with loading the krag, the krag stack, generally what you do is that when you load the 5 bullets in the mag open the bolt and put an extra bullet right to the barrel and there you have 6 rounds to work with
What is the price of a krag and springfield
El Krag Jorgensen es excelente.
Su calibre 30/40 muy efectivo y su sistema de carga original pero complicado.
El Springfield tiene acción Mauser - porque compraron los derechos para copiarla ( previa demanda de Mauser ) y su calibre 30.03 primero y 30.06 después.
De todos modos ninguno de los dos supera al Mauser 1898.
🐜
What the hell? What calibre are these things chambered in?
I think Springfield 1903 is better.
It's funny that the "land of the guns" had a Norwegian rifle and then a basically German rifle rip off as service weapons until they developed their own, which was invented by a Canadian anyway
The Springfield won, But nonone really improved the Krag design TOO much. The Krag is a very solid design and gun to me.
I'm Norwegian and biased, so i say the krag wins
Understandable, have a great day
I love the Springfield❤️
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Was hoping he'd pause and set a sixth round on the Krag scale, just because. 😉
I’m pretty sure you could put all the rounds in the Krag at once.
For me, The Krag I shot had a smoother bolt
M1911 vs TT-33 vs Luger vs Nambu??
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I think we all win.
Krag action look like video games
If you had the speed-loader you would proably drop to 10 secounds 😉
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M1917 Enfield is best :^)
Karg Supremacy!
krag is cooler so its better, issue resolved
Agreed
I think the Springfield 1903 is the winner.
And i agree with you.
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 Cool.
Put ear buds in sounds 👍
Krag bc it has a smoother bolt action
Springfield ist besser.
Five round and five round
Never mind five round and seven round lol 💀
Soda test is dumb. For one do u expect the bullet to fork? And a .22 would pop a soda bottle. So would an arrow. Or a rock from a sling....
Krag❤
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Springfield Winner.
wow 1st for once
Eddy stone 1917enfield better then the 1903.
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Springfield win
The M1917 rifle is better the. The Springfield.
Krag wins
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Krag is definitely better 🤡🤡
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i would say its about the same exept for the reload as the springfield has a way faster reload and fire rate i would acturly say the krag wins as the reson it got 22 seconds was because of the long reload
You could have loaded the Krag with 1 in the chamber to make it 6 rounds, then you could have loaded 1 directly into the chamber for a more direct and accurate comparison. There is also a speedloader for the Krag similar to the speed loading clip for the Springfield that would have been a better comparison for a firearm vs firearm video. The Krag would win hands down.
all the krag needs is a stripper clip and its basically better than the copyright Mauser
Springfield win
Krag wins