I'm smitten with the theme of this game. The history of the Indian subcontinent has always been a passionate interest of mine. Can you attest to how difficult it was to learn all the rules to this? Point of reference it took me forever to figure out the rules for War of the Ring and even after that I was still confused but hobbled through.
The rules are certainly a challenge. It wasn't so bad for me, because this is the third game in the series I have learned. The rules for a SINGLE faction aren't really more complicated than WotR. In fact I would say they are simpler. Where it gets complicated is running the AI and their flowcharts.
@@OneStopCoopShop Appreciate the time you took for a response. I think I'm willing to plow through it, then. The theme and the authentic pictures on the card are a huge draw for me. That -- and your feedback. Loved the video and thanks for responding to each of us. You've earned a sub.
@@immaculateboy glad to have you on the channel :) I'd watch the playthrough again once you get it. Another piece of advice that I think is MAJOR for your enjoyment the first few times you play: control the British Raj, and have the other 3 factions be the AI. They tend to have much easier flowcharts, and take fewer actions overall. The Raj has these long actions where they move their troops all over the board, and as you can see in the playthrough that can be VERY complex to resolve, especially when you are first learning the game. Good luck!
@@OneStopCoopShop I am indeed, and that’s partly what I’m wrestling with. I played a couple COIN games a few years ago, but never solo. However the solo AI for Pax Pamir is great which gives me hope for John Co.
I think there is an error in the play of the Raj on the first card. I believe the spaces picked should be East Bengal and Madras Presidency. 8.8.4 Implementing Event Text. As per 5.1.2, NP Factions will execute as much of the Event as required by the text, selecting spaces where as much of the Event text can be carried out. Since the event says, "In up to 2 spaces, remove 1 Protest or 1 Unrest Marker...." You would start with spaces with Protest or Unrest Markers, before going to the Space Selection Priorities Table. I could be wrong about that. That's how I read the rules though.
It's a good point, and I'm honestly not sure. In another part of the rules they say to find the action type whose column is furthest left in priority, and use that to choose spaces, and they care more about the support than the unrest/protest... but you might be right! Darn these COIN games ;)
It might happen some day, though now that I have 3 COINs I'm not sure how many more I want to go for :) But hey, if it makes you feel better, my next GMT game is either The Hunted or Under the Med!
@@OneStopCoopShop Thanks so much for your quick reply. For some reason, I thought you were referring to a series related to this game, sort of in the vein of the Pandemic series. I also thought COIN was a type of game that existed far beyond the three you mentioned here.
@@stacie_everdell I think both the things you said are correct. The COIN series from GMT is a series, a la Pandemic, with similar mechanics and concepts in each, and there are far more than 3 of them :)
Great session, thank you. I think Ghandi is probably the most beautiful of the COIN games, and the non violent factions are really interesting.
I have similar feelings. Such a lovely design, especially the new AI mechanics.
The non violent fractions are what turns me off this game.
I'm smitten with the theme of this game. The history of the Indian subcontinent has always been a passionate interest of mine. Can you attest to how difficult it was to learn all the rules to this? Point of reference it took me forever to figure out the rules for War of the Ring and even after that I was still confused but hobbled through.
The rules are certainly a challenge. It wasn't so bad for me, because this is the third game in the series I have learned.
The rules for a SINGLE faction aren't really more complicated than WotR. In fact I would say they are simpler. Where it gets complicated is running the AI and their flowcharts.
@@OneStopCoopShop Appreciate the time you took for a response. I think I'm willing to plow through it, then. The theme and the authentic pictures on the card are a huge draw for me. That -- and your feedback. Loved the video and thanks for responding to each of us.
You've earned a sub.
@@immaculateboy glad to have you on the channel :)
I'd watch the playthrough again once you get it. Another piece of advice that I think is MAJOR for your enjoyment the first few times you play: control the British Raj, and have the other 3 factions be the AI. They tend to have much easier flowcharts, and take fewer actions overall. The Raj has these long actions where they move their troops all over the board, and as you can see in the playthrough that can be VERY complex to resolve, especially when you are first learning the game.
Good luck!
@@OneStopCoopShop will do. Thanks again!
I’m torn between getting this or John Company - both look so good and I’ve been really into this period of history since I discovered Pax Pamir.
I think both games are tremendous, but both are also quite a beast to run solo (if that’s how you are planning to play)
@@OneStopCoopShop I am indeed, and that’s partly what I’m wrestling with. I played a couple COIN games a few years ago, but never solo. However the solo AI for Pax Pamir is great which gives me hope for John Co.
@Autotross oh man, don’t compare the two. The solo for John company is such a beast to run. Pax pamir is beautifully straightforward in comparison 😅
Ahhh, there is dehli. (Couldent find it before😅😂).
I think there is an error in the play of the Raj on the first card. I believe the spaces picked should be East Bengal and Madras Presidency. 8.8.4 Implementing Event Text. As per 5.1.2, NP Factions will execute as much of the Event as required by the text, selecting spaces where as much of the Event text can be carried out. Since the event says, "In up to 2 spaces, remove 1 Protest or 1 Unrest Marker...." You would start with spaces with Protest or Unrest Markers, before going to the Space Selection Priorities Table. I could be wrong about that. That's how I read the rules though.
It's a good point, and I'm honestly not sure. In another part of the rules they say to find the action type whose column is furthest left in priority, and use that to choose spaces, and they care more about the support than the unrest/protest... but you might be right!
Darn these COIN games ;)
Still waiting for a play through of “fire in the lake” 😀
It might happen some day, though now that I have 3 COINs I'm not sure how many more I want to go for :)
But hey, if it makes you feel better, my next GMT game is either The Hunted or Under the Med!
No, Remote troops and bases LAST! 21:15
Can you provided links or titles for the other two in the series?
Cuba Libre play - ua-cam.com/video/l4MTn08JQ3E/v-deo.html
Pendragon play - ua-cam.com/video/PdaOsRmtwjo/v-deo.html
There are also reviews of each.
@@OneStopCoopShop Thanks so much for your quick reply. For some reason, I thought you were referring to a series related to this game, sort of in the vein of the Pandemic series. I also thought COIN was a type of game that existed far beyond the three you mentioned here.
@@stacie_everdell I think both the things you said are correct. The COIN series from GMT is a series, a la Pandemic, with similar mechanics and concepts in each, and there are far more than 3 of them :)
I really like the look of this new AI system, feels much more manageable, but still robust.
Absolutely. If they sell similar sets for previous COIN games, I'm getting them all :)
@@OneStopCoopShop Good news. There will be, it's called Tru'ng Bot and it's for Fire in the Lake. Not out yet, it's on GMT's P500 system right now.
Ah, but I don’t have fire in the lake yet ;)
I am all for more of these!