These people who don't understand the effects of getting PTSD/Shell Shocked, or are okay with soldiers getting shell shocked are not human and I refuse to call them one.
@@Mikedot Individuals who have caused harm to children and innocent people must confront the consequences of their actions. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), in such cases, can serve as a lasting reminder of the weight of their deeds, ensuring they carry this burden throughout their lives.
Soldiers who carry orders but have no saying in what's happening are one thing, but the ones who enjoy this and cause harm to civilians or people thinking they are "doing the right thing or protecting their country" are a different story. These ones should carry the burden of their actions with them in life.
Yeah I've seen the worst sh*t online when I was a kid. And it was a long time ago when this stuff wasn't really talked about by adults. But I still have memories of watching a dude shoving a glass bottle up his butt and making it shatter and then pulled out the broken pieces out with blood everywhere when I was like...11 I think? Maybe a bit older but still 😅 All the random horrific pron I saw on Limewire and weird sh*t on Newgrounds. I also went on a website that taught me how to be anorexic and take drugs to lose weight. I followed those directions. There's no going back for people like me. We are cooked.
I was met up with my older cousin over 30 with one of my friends I went to school with they were like wow how are you so different from your cousin? I realised it was probably cos my older cousin didn't grow up with the internet as much. When I was a kid I would be chilling in the computer room with my brother who was literally on 4chan and newgrounds all the time. I was also watching anime with alot of fan service at probably way too young cos of him too lol.
3:20 tbh doesnt seem like that when they hammer of dawn vtubers for showing hips but they let irl female streamers putting their butt on full display slide. Twitch moderation is VERY inconsistent
@@propablyconfused make it so parents have to login with their provider account to access the internet. Then use laws to criminalize unmonitored use by minors. If a child is preyed upon the parent is partially on the hook.
"Apparently, the difference between being labeled a 'terrorist' and 'defender of freedom' is whether or not you've got the U.S. on speed dial. It's less about morals and more about networking!"
They labbel terrorist whatever they dislike and Tectone like most americain are just stupid and ignorant about what the US does and who is the "terrorist". He react to video the dude liyng and take it as the thruth
Thinkbeforeyousleep brings up some very good points I just wish he would drop all of the child arguments, saying that it’s the streamer’s responsibility to not say curse words or show nsfw content when actually it’s the parent’s fault and responsibility to monitor their child.
Yeah definitely. I dont have children, and i certainly wouldnt let twitch raise them if they did. But assuming I did both of those things, I'd take a streamer who occasionally swears vs a streamer who is radicalizing and indoctrinating my child
That's a very fair outlook on the situation you don't have kids you don't plan on having them, but all of your family has them there are other families and people that you live around that also have them like I can understand the feeling of just being like I have to live my life for people that don't pay my bills don't enrich my life that I don't take care of that. Don't live in my house that I don't pay taxes on. I100% agree and get that sentiment, but at the same time, devil's advocate, I also 100% understand from that very same lane because I too, as a kid got ahold of this very harmful content when I was 6 and I'm still trying to recover from that. So to a degree, I understand where people are coming from in a space that's shared by everyone, both young and old.We should moderate ourselves to act in an appropriate manner behind closed doors.Do whatever you want, just don't harm other people.
On the one hand, I get it, but on the other hand, dude was making this a video and edited the whole thing together. He had a clear head after writing the script, hashing videos together to emphasize his point And his point about twitch's problems gets washed out by him basically being upset that coomers generate the most money
40:55 yea it is their fault, why? because they're obligated to not allow minors and check for the fake id, its their fault for having poor security. is it airport's fault that a guy smuggled a bomb into an airplane because his granola bar looked real and bot plastic explosive? naaah fam its the guy's parents fault for not raising him well. yeah no I have to disagree
Honestly the guy in the video seems like a prude. I totally understand, minors should not be allowed to see lewd things easily. We shouldnt be cracking down on streamers for this, though. What we should be doing is placing lots of systems in place to ensure a minor cant access sexual or lewd content as long as the streamer is flagging their videos appropriately and penalizing any that do not. We should also hold parents more accountable to pay attention to what their children are watching or doing in the first place.
I got ahold to some very bad adult content when I was 6 years old and I'm still trying to recover from that and there are definitely things I wish I had not done I wish I had not seen that content. I wish I was a normal kid. So the concern from where people are coming from is absolutely valid and a 100% true. But at the same time, we cannot sit here and say that people that are doing things that are marketed or advertised for adults, if kids get ahold to them and mark them as predators, that's not fair and sets. A really? Really bad presidents to pretty much everyone, because if anyone can be marked a predator just because they're doing not safe for work content that kids get ahold to, if they're going through the proper, check marks and making their content not easily accessible to the kids, why are they being? Put at fault in having their lives destroyed.
3:49 xandrewmillerx in tectones chat on screen. He was one of the unhinged schizo posters from asmons 10K unban video I watched earlier :D Good job andrew, great content
If I had kids, I would not be relying on public platforms like Twitch or YT. As someone who works in content moderation, it's a real mess and also depends on what the upper management wants. They do the bare minimum at the end of the day, if you're a parent, I would not recommend allowing kids to browse platforms where anyone can upload content.
Ok but like heres my problem with it you can shake your irl body on twitch but not a avatar? Like whats the logic behind that either ban all or dont ban legit chartoon charecters it makes no sense
I had this conversation this very conversation with my friend, and he brought up a lot of points that the video made and to which I said counter-argument, if the lollicon stuff is considered pedophilia, then why is it that we have so much content that is marketed towards teenagers and people that still aren't 18? And then depict these very same characters in very lewd, compromising positions they're wearing very revealing clothing. Like to me personally, I've and I still struggle to understand how it's okay to sexualize a teenager or someone who's openly not 18, it's okay to sexualize that, but heaven forbid, if they're freshman in high school or grammar school. That's where you draw the line. Shouldn't both be morally bad objectively? Because we in America don't view you as an adult until you're 18 and out of high school, but even then, some people are like, no, you're still a child. Then so why not bump the age rating up to 21? It's like it's inconsistent.
@@milamaxwell1731 "morally bad objectively" well if you don't follow a religion you can't debate anything to objectively morally bad period, it's all subjective and inconsistent and changes with time and place.
@@rolf1819 yeah, because I can agree. All forms of pornographic material are just bad. I can admit that objectively, but people are just picking and choosing what to demonize, and what to accept, and in the crossfire, people that don't hold the same types of beliefs are treated like horrible individuals and criminals.
Is TBYS just now realizing this? Loli and shota content has been prevalent in anime for decades, it was around when I was a kid and continues to exist today. This isn't some sudden phenomenon. If someone dislikes it to the point of labeling anime fans as pedophiles or porn addicts, that seems more like a personal issue more than anything. Millions of people enjoy anime in a healthy and responsible way every day. A quick search shows that over 600 million people worldwide watch anime. Suggesting that a large amount of them are closet pedophiles/ porn addicted is absurd. What study supports such a claim? It sounds highly questionable for him to think that when so many people watch anime daily. If Tecton or TBYS dislike this type of content, that's fair, but it’s odd for them to engage in a medium the has such a abundance of content they deem problematic. You don't have to watch anime or just curate the anime you watch accordingly.
I agree. I never agreed to this Idea that it promotes or validates p*dophilia when the content in question is targeted towards horny teenage boys. Like, come on, let's be realistic here. Every horny teenager has watched fanservice anime even into their adulthood.
@KallaTheYapper347 It just such a weird assertion to make. If you honestly believe anime turns people into pedophiles then any unorthodox social behavior makes you that thing. For example if you play violent video games that means your a violent person 🙄. You see how that logic tree falls apart when you apply it to any other media
@Dolshadow Exactly. I just went to the original video, and there are comments mentioning that Tbys has bad and closes minded takes about anime. One of these takes is that Mikasa from Aot was oversexualized..... Bruh.
It's funny how much people rail hard as they can again loli/shota, claiming that it encourages pdfila, but the same energy is never rallied against furries with the same logic that their art can lead to zoophila.
@@KallaTheYapper347 At the end of the day, he’s just a tourist. He doesn’t truly understand the media he consumes and draws baseless assumptions from flawed conclusions. For someone who frequently discusses media literacy and emphasizes the importance of evidence, where are the studies to back up his claims? It’s hard to take him seriously on the topic, especially given how widespread anime is and how common loli and shota characters are in the medium. A quick glance at MyAnimeList reveals that many of the most popular anime of all time include such characters. WOW who would’ve thought?🙄
3:00 preferably they just didn't allow it on twitch to begin with. Lewdtubers and lewd asmr is one thing that should be blurred, have it's own section and have a sexual tag 18+ with no ad revenue with age verification preferably. But the girls promoting their OFs like asianbunny or amouranth by pushing the envelope on twitch by engaging with tos in bad faith to get offsite pron subscriptions should just be banned. And the girls that simply just try to secure subs and donos on twitch by treating it like a softcore chatterbate where the focus of their stream is sexual content should also be banned. It's just obnoxious to see and nearly all of us hate seeing it on twitch, seeing it on PH is fine and is where it belongs.
@@ymx7947 Plenty are cringe and irresponsible and should be banned like Hasan, but I don't think an entire category of discourse should be banned outright, that's ridiculous imo. I also didn't say anything about damaging, I'm primarily sticking with how most twitch users just don't like seeing sexworkers trying to circumvent twitch tos to make xxx money on/off the platform by using twtich.
The guy reading the script for the video (not Tectone) has the most depressed voice I've ever heard. How could he convince me to agree with him when it sounds like he hates being alive?
my grandpa was in the wars and died cuz of cancer related to chemicals used idk i think mom said it was agent orange but he was the nicest old man i ever knew and to sit there and talk about how ptsd and stuff like that doesnt matter is WILD its like people forget that the people that served and died were PEOPLE
Anime that has fanservice isn’t adult content. When its aimed towards horny teenage boys especially the shonen category of anime. Like what? Unless people out here really believe that japan promotes a culture of Pedophilia which isn't true in the slightest.
32:45 but to be fair I highly dislike the rights new status quo and the upper level management of the right has become some of the most extremist in the party. I’m not sure if this argument and logic can apply anymore
Near the end of the video, he referenced lude animated drawings at the beginning of a convention. But what about statues and are exhibits in other countries that have literally full nude models that can be viewed by all ages as well. Like the David statue, or religious art with naked baby angels and full on nude women on the walls. Sure they are not suppose to be "porn" for those interested in history, but I bet they can be shown as sexual content without context.
The difference is intent and the time they were made. The intention with those sculptures and paintings is to show struggle or power or sadness, etc. During that time nudity wasn't as easy to find as of today where you can just type in a prompt and bam! Amber in a tiny swimsuit, so someone being naked was far more sacred than it is today. The intention of those drawings is to be explicitly sexual. Just like there's a difference between a woman showing her boobs to a doctor vs showing them to a dude off the street. One is to learn, the other is sexual. Or when you have a nude model in art school. There's a difference of intention between that and her shaking her titties in front of people.
Don't watch mega but considering she was doing what 90% of woman in that category do and got banned is insane. I got no problem with twitch allowing sexual content or cracking down. Just be equal in it's enforcement.
42:27 Sry but that is such a ... noobie take. Isekai is responsible for him? Isekai is newshit - in the early 2000s we had simple harem anime, we didn't even add the fantasy stuff. After that we just had cute girls without any guys. It's been degenerate since the beginning, not since Isekai.
I've had this discussion with a few people, and I've even said this very same thing, old school cartoons and animes at some point, had degeneracy and debauchery in them that people just heavily overlooked because they were beloved cartoons at the time for you know, for what they were And even animes that are much older than dragon ball have been doing this for eons. Not to say that it's okay or whatnot, but to now say that it's a problem and to complain about it back then. Nobody was saying anything about it. It's the same situation with censorship. We're okay with the things that we like and what we don't like, we're not okay with. We want to get rid of it, and then the things that we were okay with are now being censored. Now it's a problem. And my personal stance on it is, if you wanna call Lolly and shotakan pedophilia, you are absolutely a 100% valid for feeling that way, but to then go around and say that you know the anime that indulged with teenagers and barely legal adults, they also should count under the same umbrella, since we're all saying none of them are of legal age to be in these Compromising situations so you can't sit here and say Lolly, and shoda is not okay, but teenagers are a fair game because the argument everyone defaults to is most of the world views 16-year-olds as adults.
It is so unfortunate how many pdfs there are or closet pdfs that everything in the anime world slowly starts going more into it to get those ppls attention, theres so many amazing animes that would just be 5x better if they didnt try to get those closet pdfs attention
needs to be more of a barrier than just click here that says youre 18. any kid can just click that. put questions or something that only 18+ would be able to answer or a place to put in certain info about your self that only 18+ would have like DLN. it would also cut down on bots and fake accounts. i wouldnt want to give my DLN to a lot of websites but it is one simple solution that could fix the issue.
50:30 neither genitals nor nudity are involved so it's safe. It's weird, but it's safe. also adult content is at separate section on conventions ordinary. i was on few and all R18 content was at age restricted zone with "no kids allowed" sign... Meanwhile, at parades, people are either naked or in such perverted outfits, and even not in a separate place, but right in the middle of the streets in front of everyone, including kids. The comparison is too far-fetched
The thing with teenagers being sexualized in anime has been long since overdue of being called out. It's at an all-time high. Anyone can name so many anime games and anime where sexualized teens are rampant. The "loli" thing too is absolutely out of control as well. Genshin Impact for example has I think 9 little girl/loli characters in it which includes Dori. Another will be here soon which is that one Natlan kid. No younger male characters present whatsoever and I definitely see why Genshin Impact, most anime involving sexualized minors as well as anime games are despised. Hiding behind the "durrr she's actually 1000 years old" only solidifies one's point that they sexually love children.... *HOWEVER* though this doesn't excuse degenerates that love adult fanservice as well as that mindless crap has been WAY too rampant in literally anything, but mostly seen in anime. Pron "better say this to avoid the YT team getting alerted by the actual word" addicts are pathetic as well as those who pay to watch two or more idiots make love to each other... Too many degens love that crap and expect it in their bimbo shows amd games instead of good or fun storytelling without that crap being present... oh right right, "SeX sElLs". Morons still want pron in Pokemon of all things and stupid adults already ruined Roblox for example, a game targeted specifically for children by adding their lewd nonsense into it... Exposing minors, specifically kids under 12, can lead to very unnatural consequences.
i do love how he changed his demeanor for morgpie but not for the others(don't come at me i love tectone to death js saying what iseen is all) i love you tectone
Ah yes, the classic “you can’t try to constructively change a country you live in for the better” take. Hey bud, you can actively criticize the country you live in, that’s how positive change happens. And specifically on her take, she had a good response. If a lot of countries families have been attacked for no reason by soldiers, why would she need to actively bow down to them.
@@Mikerillethe problem isn’t criticizing the country it’s how hateful and unapologetic for the people who fight to make it were she can be a fat girl eating on stream and make a lot of money. Tons of people criticize the country without talking shit on the people who put their lives on the line thinking it’s the righteous thing to do. I mean the hypocrisy is crazy right….lazy privileged people complaining about America is always hilarious to me and anyone who sits in a chair sharing their opinions to be rich are privileged in so many ways.
And yes, I know I'm leaving too many comments, but I want to specify this again, and take tone himself in a video a while back, especially when we was talking about the anime in Mongo in video games of sexualizing characters just let characters be sexy in video games. I believe is what he was saying in the video. So yeah, if you think of it like that, hear those same people are trying to get rid of V tubers because they're too cute and sexy and don't look apparently realistic enough for a real person. LOL. hopefully somebody in the comments reads this and knows what I'm talking about.
It's not about whether it's marked as 18+ etc. It's about twitch deciding what kind of platform it wants to be. The site would be so much better if it simply said, "any content deemed to be intentionally sexual by our internal review team will result in a permanent ban, without warning, appeal or explanation. If you don't like it, then pissoff to pornhub, we know what you are trying to accomplish and we do not support it on this platform"
It should be illegal for a parent to allow their child internet access - but, given it's the Internet, kids are going to try to get in anyway. Vote me, Random UA-cam Commenter, as President of the Universe, and I would implement community intranets for every suburb/town that would be completely isolated from the wider Internet. These community intranets will require a login using a Student/Resident ID that requires either proof of attendance to the local school OR proof of residence within the suburb. These intranets will be heavily monitored and controlled in terms of access, information, and content. Everyone in each community intranet will be identifiable by other members of that community. We will tyrannise the children's intranets so that the wider Internet may remain free and unbounded.
problem with its not twitch or the strip clubs fault someone lies about their age is a strip club will still get fined or in trouble if they have underage people in their business regardless if they lied to get in or not.
I'm biased but mega actually adhered to what twitch says is fine, what twitch ALLOWS ylto be the case for all irl streamers, she's just an anime girl so she got banned
I agree with you until the anime part where you even misremembering Vinland Saga... Sorry but those loli problem still do exist even in the future. Like its Vikings Era what do you mean those staff had stopped... It didn't... It just not shown as much now. This is pretty much just another tourist problem honestly. I never really mind about those staff nor do I care enough about it. I care more about real kids not fictional one. Like there's more cases when this makes the story better. Remember how traumatized Nina and the dog moment in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is? Yeah you won't have those staff if you insert your own agenda... Adding this is one thing western don't understand too... Japanese don't view loli as you think they do. That's the niche space. Majority of Japanese view them as their unfortunately lost childhood during harsh work. Why are they in bad "weird" scenario? They don't see that as themselves in their age. They view it as "Yeah I wish I could do that with my imaginary GF when I was young" In fact majority of Japanese would have just hire a soup opera artist and F them... That's the statistics too. High rate of NTR proven that they don't view children as you think Tectone... TBH people should be focusing more on real people problem not restrictions of artistic freedom. As an artist that just make me hate it.
@@zweiigorgon8980 incorrect... All this had been mentioned by a Japanese news reporter Nobita from Japan about the truth of "young anime/manga/novel/game characters": 1. Japan does not endorse inappropriate child content in manga or novels. This is a matter of artistic freedom. 2. It's not Japanese society that makes claims about problematic content. Japanese society generally dislikes those who don't conform to societal norms. The claims often come from Western perspectives, leading to misconceptions about Japan's preferences. Research shows that they can hire soap opera artists in red-light districts. 3. Even in Japanese fictional content, niche and controversial content is not mainstream. Research indicates preferences for genres like NTR or big boobs. Like we can even make Tectone's claim against himself just because he likes Rappa's story... Fun fact: Rappa was a child being abused by researchers in that story. Yeah, it doesn't look good if we use this flawed logic on everyone. Like the way you talking now is contribute to this misinformation.
All the true, if it's for clout...best to just ignore everything bad done by someone rich or influential. I'm sure plenty of people knew of the shit P. Diddy did. The reason why no one said anything is obvious if you get out of the ivory tower.
be the man you are and just throw that clip uncensored for the rest of us. You lead us into a new Revolution. But in all honesty and jokes aside. I don't see what the problem is. Honestly, the real problem they're having with you is it's an animated character or 3D model and not a real human being. I'm telling. you're telling you people are taking the whole we love anime girls or 3D characters. Seriously enough that they're starting to ban stuff like that. is what it seems like. I mean, yeah, you could get on there and Twitch and you'll see a girl will literally hardly anything on and it's fine, but as soon as you see a 3D model of an anime character do that, they get banned. Kind of disheartening for anybody trying to get into that kind of line of work and stuff. But what's new? Everyone is always trying to find a way to shut down the anime. Munga and Vtuber stuff.
It seems you're not grasping my point. I mentioned earlier in the comments, albeit seven hours late, that this issue only targets V-tuber models, not regular girls. It's somewhat discriminatory when you think about it. Perhaps I shouldn't have phrased it like that, but it's along those lines. So, I disagree with your statement. I do concur with the need for age restrictions and censorship on certain content. However, it's problematic to support their current actions and then allow regular streamers to engage in the same behavior without repercussions. The moment a V-tuber does it, they face a ban. We've previously discussed the push against sexualized characters and content, and I view this as a continuation of that agenda. They seem to want to shield certain individuals from content that is deemed too appealing. That's my perspective, and I hope it comes across clearly in my comments. Apologies, but that's how I see it.
Yep I agree with Teccy about that WW2 date, bro I don't care who you are If anybody yapped as much as he does everybody would say a lot of stupid shit for sure, maybe even more stupid, otherwise avoiding certain topics and creating this fake personality for internet points will just make you fake and forgettable.
Techtone I know you read your comments. So when you see this know The reason why I watch you is because there's nothing I hate most then being lied to I care about knowing the truth.
LOL. Yes, I would agree with what he said about minor shouldn't be exposed to this, but if her site was set for 18 plus, then I don't see the problem. And again, you see stuff like that on cartoon network for Christ's sake. Any cartoon you watch nowadays has some kind of. sexual content to it. in some way or form, especially in the fan art. So yeah, I still don't see his point there.
The most offensive part of this reaction is that Tectone thought I wasn't going to show Frogan eating.
It's difficult to find a clip where she isn't, honestly
I'd be more impressed if you had managed to find a clip of her finishing a sentence without shoving food down her throat.
These people who don't understand the effects of getting PTSD/Shell Shocked, or are okay with soldiers getting shell shocked are not human and I refuse to call them one.
Thank you for speaking for someone like myself on behalf
@@Mikedot Individuals who have caused harm to children and innocent people must confront the consequences of their actions. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), in such cases, can serve as a lasting reminder of the weight of their deeds, ensuring they carry this burden throughout their lives.
@@mrk_artist7005 hello sub human 😊
Soldiers who carry orders but have no saying in what's happening are one thing, but the ones who enjoy this and cause harm to civilians or people thinking they are "doing the right thing or protecting their country" are a different story. These ones should carry the burden of their actions with them in life.
they're obviously human, they're just stupid pieces of shit.
I feel like the internet messes you up. I never noticed these things when growing up. Now suddenly it's apparently clear.
Yeah I've seen the worst sh*t online when I was a kid. And it was a long time ago when this stuff wasn't really talked about by adults. But I still have memories of watching a dude shoving a glass bottle up his butt and making it shatter and then pulled out the broken pieces out with blood everywhere when I was like...11 I think? Maybe a bit older but still 😅 All the random horrific pron I saw on Limewire and weird sh*t on Newgrounds. I also went on a website that taught me how to be anorexic and take drugs to lose weight. I followed those directions.
There's no going back for people like me. We are cooked.
I was met up with my older cousin over 30 with one of my friends I went to school with they were like wow how are you so different from your cousin? I realised it was probably cos my older cousin didn't grow up with the internet as much.
When I was a kid I would be chilling in the computer room with my brother who was literally on 4chan and newgrounds all the time. I was also watching anime with alot of fan service at probably way too young cos of him too lol.
3:20 tbh doesnt seem like that when they hammer of dawn vtubers for showing hips but they let irl female streamers putting their butt on full display slide. Twitch moderation is VERY inconsistent
The censor makes it look way worse than it is lmao
kids shouldnt be allowed on the internet. its insane make this 16+
18+*
are you above 18 ?
10 year old kid : yes
@@propablyconfused make it so parents have to login with their provider account to access the internet. Then use laws to criminalize unmonitored use by minors. If a child is preyed upon the parent is partially on the hook.
It should be restricted on certain websites and platforms not entirely the internet kids still need it to do their homework. @@thatmoonshalo
Nah make it 18+ instead. A 16 year old is still a kid. Get em all off
9:17 - "When will you learn?! When will you learn, that your actions, HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!"
"Apparently, the difference between being labeled a 'terrorist' and 'defender of freedom' is whether or not you've got the U.S. on speed dial. It's less about morals and more about networking!"
Clearly you don't know better, but no...those aren't even close to the same thing.
@joeb734 bombing Iraq isn't considered terrorism ???
@@joeb734 "When a white, civilized man, take such actions, they are deemed justified." 👎👎👎
They labbel terrorist whatever they dislike and Tectone like most americain are just stupid and ignorant about what the US does and who is the "terrorist". He react to video the dude liyng and take it as the thruth
Israel murders countless civilians but it’s ok because the US says so.
Thinkbeforeyousleep brings up some very good points I just wish he would drop all of the child arguments, saying that it’s the streamer’s responsibility to not say curse words or show nsfw content when actually it’s the parent’s fault and responsibility to monitor their child.
Yeah definitely. I dont have children, and i certainly wouldnt let twitch raise them if they did.
But assuming I did both of those things, I'd take a streamer who occasionally swears vs a streamer who is radicalizing and indoctrinating my child
Everyday, people telling me how to behave for kids and living my life for the kids around me, is making me hate those little shits more
That's a very fair outlook on the situation you don't have kids you don't plan on having them, but all of your family has them there are other families and people that you live around that also have them like I can understand the feeling of just being like I have to live my life for people that don't pay my bills don't enrich my life that I don't take care of that. Don't live in my house that I don't pay taxes on. I100% agree and get that sentiment, but at the same time, devil's advocate, I also 100% understand from that very same lane because I too, as a kid got ahold of this very harmful content when I was 6 and I'm still trying to recover from that. So to a degree, I understand where people are coming from in a space that's shared by everyone, both young and old.We should moderate ourselves to act in an appropriate manner behind closed doors.Do whatever you want, just don't harm other people.
Literally never understood why people always act like it's my, a random stranger on the internet, job to babysit some random ass kid.
It was weird how the video went from talking about twitches problems to arguing about anime shit, it's just a huge whiplash.
On the one hand, I get it, but on the other hand, dude was making this a video and edited the whole thing together. He had a clear head after writing the script, hashing videos together to emphasize his point
And his point about twitch's problems gets washed out by him basically being upset that coomers generate the most money
40:55 yea it is their fault, why? because they're obligated to not allow minors and check for the fake id, its their fault for having poor security. is it airport's fault that a guy smuggled a bomb into an airplane because his granola bar looked real and bot plastic explosive? naaah fam its the guy's parents fault for not raising him well. yeah no I have to disagree
Honestly the guy in the video seems like a prude. I totally understand, minors should not be allowed to see lewd things easily. We shouldnt be cracking down on streamers for this, though. What we should be doing is placing lots of systems in place to ensure a minor cant access sexual or lewd content as long as the streamer is flagging their videos appropriately and penalizing any that do not. We should also hold parents more accountable to pay attention to what their children are watching or doing in the first place.
Yeah, even on the points we agree on, he's kind unlikable in how he tries to present it and it makes me not want to agree with him.
I got ahold to some very bad adult content when I was 6 years old and I'm still trying to recover from that and there are definitely things I wish I had not done I wish I had not seen that content. I wish I was a normal kid. So the concern from where people are coming from is absolutely valid and a 100% true. But at the same time, we cannot sit here and say that people that are doing things that are marketed or advertised for adults, if kids get ahold to them and mark them as predators, that's not fair and sets. A really? Really bad presidents to pretty much everyone, because if anyone can be marked a predator just because they're doing not safe for work content that kids get ahold to, if they're going through the proper, check marks and making their content not easily accessible to the kids, why are they being? Put at fault in having their lives destroyed.
@@milamaxwell1731 Sounds like your parents weren't doing a good job if they gave you unrestricted access of the internet at 6.
@EriaAri it started as a DVD then cable then the internet but yea over all i was not watched properly as a kid.
2:18 this is painful to watch...
3:49 xandrewmillerx in tectones chat on screen. He was one of the unhinged schizo posters from asmons 10K unban video I watched earlier :D Good job andrew, great content
no way lol. kinda fucked up how asmon cheered him on that guy needs real help
If I had kids, I would not be relying on public platforms like Twitch or YT. As someone who works in content moderation, it's a real mess and also depends on what the upper management wants. They do the bare minimum at the end of the day, if you're a parent, I would not recommend allowing kids to browse platforms where anyone can upload content.
Ok but like heres my problem with it you can shake your irl body on twitch but not a avatar? Like whats the logic behind that either ban all or dont ban legit chartoon charecters it makes no sense
cartoon girls are hotter than 3DPD, that's the difference.
I had this conversation this very conversation with my friend, and he brought up a lot of points that the video made and to which I said counter-argument, if the lollicon stuff is considered pedophilia, then why is it that we have so much content that is marketed towards teenagers and people that still aren't 18? And then depict these very same characters in very lewd, compromising positions they're wearing very revealing clothing. Like to me personally, I've and I still struggle to understand how it's okay to sexualize a teenager or someone who's openly not 18, it's okay to sexualize that, but heaven forbid, if they're freshman in high school or grammar school. That's where you draw the line. Shouldn't both be morally bad objectively? Because we in America don't view you as an adult until you're 18 and out of high school, but even then, some people are like, no, you're still a child. Then so why not bump the age rating up to 21? It's like it's inconsistent.
@@milamaxwell1731 "morally bad objectively" well if you don't follow a religion you can't debate anything to objectively morally bad period, it's all subjective and inconsistent and changes with time and place.
@@rolf1819 yeah, because I can agree. All forms of pornographic material are just bad. I can admit that objectively, but people are just picking and choosing what to demonize, and what to accept, and in the crossfire, people that don't hold the same types of beliefs are treated like horrible individuals and criminals.
@@milamaxwell1731it’s Alr to put it in a place where it’s 18+ like only- and stuff
19:18 This comment is incredible, and I personally never thought of it that way, good shit bald man
Is TBYS just now realizing this? Loli and shota content has been prevalent in anime for decades, it was around when I was a kid and continues to exist today. This isn't some sudden phenomenon. If someone dislikes it to the point of labeling anime fans as pedophiles or porn addicts, that seems more like a personal issue more than anything. Millions of people enjoy anime in a healthy and responsible way every day. A quick search shows that over 600 million people worldwide watch anime. Suggesting that a large amount of them are closet pedophiles/ porn addicted is absurd. What study supports such a claim? It sounds highly questionable for him to think that when so many people watch anime daily. If Tecton or TBYS dislike this type of content, that's fair, but it’s odd for them to engage in a medium the has such a abundance of content they deem problematic. You don't have to watch anime or just curate the anime you watch accordingly.
I agree. I never agreed to this Idea that it promotes or validates p*dophilia when the content in question is targeted towards horny teenage boys. Like, come on, let's be realistic here. Every horny teenager has watched fanservice anime even into their adulthood.
@KallaTheYapper347 It just such a weird assertion to make. If you honestly believe anime turns people into pedophiles then any unorthodox social behavior makes you that thing. For example if you play violent video games that means your a violent person 🙄. You see how that logic tree falls apart when you apply it to any other media
@Dolshadow
Exactly. I just went to the original video, and there are comments mentioning that Tbys has bad and closes minded takes about anime. One of these takes is that Mikasa from Aot was oversexualized.....
Bruh.
It's funny how much people rail hard as they can again loli/shota, claiming that it encourages pdfila, but the same energy is never rallied against furries with the same logic that their art can lead to zoophila.
@@KallaTheYapper347 At the end of the day, he’s just a tourist. He doesn’t truly understand the media he consumes and draws baseless assumptions from flawed conclusions. For someone who frequently discusses media literacy and emphasizes the importance of evidence, where are the studies to back up his claims? It’s hard to take him seriously on the topic, especially given how widespread anime is and how common loli and shota characters are in the medium. A quick glance at MyAnimeList reveals that many of the most popular anime of all time include such characters. WOW who would’ve thought?🙄
3:00 preferably they just didn't allow it on twitch to begin with. Lewdtubers and lewd asmr is one thing that should be blurred, have it's own section and have a sexual tag 18+ with no ad revenue with age verification preferably. But the girls promoting their OFs like asianbunny or amouranth by pushing the envelope on twitch by engaging with tos in bad faith to get offsite pron subscriptions should just be banned. And the girls that simply just try to secure subs and donos on twitch by treating it like a softcore chatterbate where the focus of their stream is sexual content should also be banned. It's just obnoxious to see and nearly all of us hate seeing it on twitch, seeing it on PH is fine and is where it belongs.
Every single political streamer is far more damaging and obnoxious to see and should also be perma-banned.
@@ymx7947 Plenty are cringe and irresponsible and should be banned like Hasan, but I don't think an entire category of discourse should be banned outright, that's ridiculous imo. I also didn't say anything about damaging, I'm primarily sticking with how most twitch users just don't like seeing sexworkers trying to circumvent twitch tos to make xxx money on/off the platform by using twtich.
31:16 This joke just made me think, "Man, roundabouts must be impossible for this girl."
The guy reading the script for the video (not Tectone) has the most depressed voice I've ever heard. How could he convince me to agree with him when it sounds like he hates being alive?
let me state it again, abandon that sinking ship
Pleasant surprise to see you react to this.
my grandpa was in the wars and died cuz of cancer related to chemicals used idk i think mom said it was agent orange but he was the nicest old man i ever knew and to sit there and talk about how ptsd and stuff like that doesnt matter is WILD its like people forget that the people that served and died were PEOPLE
This video is such an insane reach by the Creator
oh shoooot that was me in the video for 10 seconds! lol
31:35 It's crazy how now you need to give disclaimers before giving a completely reasonable and measured take
TBYS makes some really good arguments however hearing his way of presenting his arguments reminds of how "Noralities" does it.
Anime that has fanservice isn’t adult content. When its aimed towards horny teenage boys especially the shonen category of anime. Like what?
Unless people out here really believe that japan promotes a culture of Pedophilia which isn't true in the slightest.
32:45 but to be fair I highly dislike the rights new status quo and the upper level management of the right has become some of the most extremist in the party. I’m not sure if this argument and logic can apply anymore
Fun fact of the day: This video could have ended at 4:30
Right Turn Only Lane LMFAO i died
Im a leftist and i thought that was gold.
Near the end of the video, he referenced lude animated drawings at the beginning of a convention. But what about statues and are exhibits in other countries that have literally full nude models that can be viewed by all ages as well. Like the David statue, or religious art with naked baby angels and full on nude women on the walls. Sure they are not suppose to be "porn" for those interested in history, but I bet they can be shown as sexual content without context.
The difference is intent and the time they were made.
The intention with those sculptures and paintings is to show struggle or power or sadness, etc. During that time nudity wasn't as easy to find as of today where you can just type in a prompt and bam! Amber in a tiny swimsuit, so someone being naked was far more sacred than it is today.
The intention of those drawings is to be explicitly sexual. Just like there's a difference between a woman showing her boobs to a doctor vs showing them to a dude off the street. One is to learn, the other is sexual.
Or when you have a nude model in art school. There's a difference of intention between that and her shaking her titties in front of people.
There’s artistic nudity and then there’s pornography whose purpose is to invoke sexual gratification . This is like elementary school level knowledge.
Golden Boy: verrry educational
Hahaha this icing on the cake is at the end of the video a "Bald"erson cheese ad 😆 🤣
Your eating noises 16 minutes in was funny😭☠️
29:51 Wait but the Right does the exact same thing right @tectone 32:19 ok you covered it. Thank you.
Don't watch mega but considering she was doing what 90% of woman in that category do and got banned is insane. I got no problem with twitch allowing sexual content or cracking down. Just be equal in it's enforcement.
42:27
Sry but that is such a ... noobie take. Isekai is responsible for him? Isekai is newshit - in the early 2000s we had simple harem anime, we didn't even add the fantasy stuff. After that we just had cute girls without any guys. It's been degenerate since the beginning, not since Isekai.
The guy with the loli picture... well well well...
@@arturs8083 are you braindead? yes YOU ARE!
'just get kids off the internet' i have been saying this for years.
thank God the vtubers I watch aren't all like this-
I was waiting for the Tectone TBYS arc. We're eating good, boys
the censor genuinely makes things so much worse. we all know this after the black bar incident, but jesus.
46:07 Dragon Maid is amazing but WHY DO THEY DO THIS TO KANNA????? 😭😭😭
Twitch should never have allowed any pornographic content in the first place. Full stop.
Bro twitch is not for children saying that people making nude art on Twitch deserve prison is so dumb
Twitch is literally a 13+ website
42:58 No truer words have never been spoken😭😭.
Loli and shota have always been in anime though. Look at OG dragon ball for example no one was saying anything about chi chi’s attire til now.
I've had this discussion with a few people, and I've even said this very same thing, old school cartoons and animes at some point, had degeneracy and debauchery in them that people just heavily overlooked because they were beloved cartoons at the time for you know, for what they were
And even animes that are much older than dragon ball have been doing this for eons. Not to say that it's okay or whatnot, but to now say that it's a problem and to complain about it back then. Nobody was saying anything about it. It's the same situation with censorship. We're okay with the things that we like and what we don't like, we're not okay with. We want to get rid of it, and then the things that we were okay with are now being censored. Now it's a problem.
And my personal stance on it is, if you wanna call Lolly and shotakan pedophilia, you are absolutely a 100% valid for feeling that way, but to then go around and say that you know the anime that indulged with teenagers and barely legal adults, they also should count under the same umbrella, since we're all saying none of them are of legal age to be in these Compromising situations so you can't sit here and say Lolly, and shoda is not okay, but teenagers are a fair game because the argument everyone defaults to is most of the world views 16-year-olds as adults.
At this rate Twitch will have to get hit with a class action lawsuit.
Yu Yu Hakusho, Trigun, and Vinland saga are for real men.
Ooh I love the first two of those but I haven't watched that last one thank you for the recommendation
It is so unfortunate how many pdfs there are or closet pdfs that everything in the anime world slowly starts going more into it to get those ppls attention, theres so many amazing animes that would just be 5x better if they didnt try to get those closet pdfs attention
Tec you had to save us again , crack it again with a pool background.
needs to be more of a barrier than just click here that says youre 18. any kid can just click that. put questions or something that only 18+ would be able to answer or a place to put in certain info about your self that only 18+ would have like DLN. it would also cut down on bots and fake accounts. i wouldnt want to give my DLN to a lot of websites but it is one simple solution that could fix the issue.
50:30 neither genitals nor nudity are involved so it's safe. It's weird, but it's safe. also adult content is at separate section on conventions ordinary. i was on few and all R18 content was at age restricted zone with "no kids allowed" sign...
Meanwhile, at parades, people are either naked or in such perverted outfits, and even not in a separate place, but right in the middle of the streets in front of everyone, including kids. The comparison is too far-fetched
"I thought we were America" We really were
The thing with teenagers being sexualized in anime has been long since overdue of being called out. It's at an all-time high. Anyone can name so many anime games and anime where sexualized teens are rampant. The "loli" thing too is absolutely out of control as well. Genshin Impact for example has I think 9 little girl/loli characters in it which includes Dori. Another will be here soon which is that one Natlan kid. No younger male characters present whatsoever and I definitely see why Genshin Impact, most anime involving sexualized minors as well as anime games are despised. Hiding behind the "durrr she's actually 1000 years old" only solidifies one's point that they sexually love children....
*HOWEVER* though this doesn't excuse degenerates that love adult fanservice as well as that mindless crap has been WAY too rampant in literally anything, but mostly seen in anime. Pron "better say this to avoid the YT team getting alerted by the actual word" addicts are pathetic as well as those who pay to watch two or more idiots make love to each other... Too many degens love that crap and expect it in their bimbo shows amd games instead of good or fun storytelling without that crap being present... oh right right, "SeX sElLs". Morons still want pron in Pokemon of all things and stupid adults already ruined Roblox for example, a game targeted specifically for children by adding their lewd nonsense into it...
Exposing minors, specifically kids under 12, can lead to very unnatural consequences.
I have never hated anyone more than denims
i do love how he changed his demeanor for morgpie but not for the others(don't come at me i love tectone to death js saying what iseen is all) i love you tectone
Why doesnt Frogsn move to Iran if she hates America so much? I'm sure they would love to hear her opinions on things.
Ah yes, the classic “you can’t try to constructively change a country you live in for the better” take. Hey bud, you can actively criticize the country you live in, that’s how positive change happens. And specifically on her take, she had a good response. If a lot of countries families have been attacked for no reason by soldiers, why would she need to actively bow down to them.
@@Mikerillethe problem isn’t criticizing the country it’s how hateful and unapologetic for the people who fight to make it were she can be a fat girl eating on stream and make a lot of money. Tons of people criticize the country without talking shit on the people who put their lives on the line thinking it’s the righteous thing to do. I mean the hypocrisy is crazy right….lazy privileged people complaining about America is always hilarious to me and anyone who sits in a chair sharing their opinions to be rich are privileged in so many ways.
Exactly. That’s why Trump was elected.
We are here still
And yes, I know I'm leaving too many comments, but I want to specify this again, and take tone himself in a video a while back, especially when we was talking about the anime in Mongo in video games of sexualizing characters just let characters be sexy in video games. I believe is what he was saying in the video. So yeah, if you think of it like that, hear those same people are trying to get rid of V tubers because they're too cute and sexy and don't look apparently realistic enough for a real person. LOL. hopefully somebody in the comments reads this and knows what I'm talking about.
lest GO another hour long video
It's not about whether it's marked as 18+ etc. It's about twitch deciding what kind of platform it wants to be. The site would be so much better if it simply said, "any content deemed to be intentionally sexual by our internal review team will result in a permanent ban, without warning, appeal or explanation. If you don't like it, then pissoff to pornhub, we know what you are trying to accomplish and we do not support it on this platform"
Denims kept saying left so much i suddenly dont wanna be left handed for loose associations to her 😬
43:55 wait season 3 came out??
2:28 isn't that what every VTuber does tho ? xD Ban all of them then lol
It should be illegal for a parent to allow their child internet access - but, given it's the Internet, kids are going to try to get in anyway.
Vote me, Random UA-cam Commenter, as President of the Universe, and I would implement community intranets for every suburb/town that would be completely isolated from the wider Internet. These community intranets will require a login using a Student/Resident ID that requires either proof of attendance to the local school OR proof of residence within the suburb. These intranets will be heavily monitored and controlled in terms of access, information, and content. Everyone in each community intranet will be identifiable by other members of that community.
We will tyrannise the children's intranets so that the wider Internet may remain free and unbounded.
problem with its not twitch or the strip clubs fault someone lies about their age is a strip club will still get fined or in trouble if they have underage people in their business regardless if they lied to get in or not.
29:44 1 to 1 in Germany.
I'm biased but mega actually adhered to what twitch says is fine, what twitch ALLOWS ylto be the case for all irl streamers, she's just an anime girl so she got banned
I agree with you until the anime part where you even misremembering Vinland Saga... Sorry but those loli problem still do exist even in the future. Like its Vikings Era what do you mean those staff had stopped...
It didn't... It just not shown as much now.
This is pretty much just another tourist problem honestly.
I never really mind about those staff nor do I care enough about it. I care more about real kids not fictional one.
Like there's more cases when this makes the story better.
Remember how traumatized Nina and the dog moment in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is?
Yeah you won't have those staff if you insert your own agenda...
Adding this is one thing western don't understand too...
Japanese don't view loli as you think they do. That's the niche space. Majority of Japanese view them as their unfortunately lost childhood during harsh work.
Why are they in bad "weird" scenario? They don't see that as themselves in their age. They view it as "Yeah I wish I could do that with my imaginary GF when I was young"
In fact majority of Japanese would have just hire a soup opera artist and F them... That's the statistics too. High rate of NTR proven that they don't view children as you think Tectone...
TBH people should be focusing more on real people problem not restrictions of artistic freedom. As an artist that just make me hate it.
Loli is the confederate flag for pdfs
reminds me of how shinya outed himself as a schizo creep tourist
I have no idea what this person is trying to say.
@@infestedq i think he is just into kids ngl
@@zweiigorgon8980 incorrect...
All this had been mentioned by a Japanese news reporter Nobita from Japan about the truth of "young anime/manga/novel/game characters":
1. Japan does not endorse inappropriate child content in manga or novels. This is a matter of artistic freedom.
2. It's not Japanese society that makes claims about problematic content. Japanese society generally dislikes those who don't conform to societal norms. The claims often come from Western perspectives, leading to misconceptions about Japan's preferences. Research shows that they can hire soap opera artists in red-light districts.
3. Even in Japanese fictional content, niche and controversial content is not mainstream. Research indicates preferences for genres like NTR or big boobs.
Like we can even make Tectone's claim against himself just because he likes Rappa's story...
Fun fact: Rappa was a child being abused by researchers in that story.
Yeah, it doesn't look good if we use this flawed logic on everyone.
Like the way you talking now is contribute to this misinformation.
All the true, if it's for clout...best to just ignore everything bad done by someone rich or influential. I'm sure plenty of people knew of the shit P. Diddy did. The reason why no one said anything is obvious if you get out of the ivory tower.
the amount of slight misinformation he used to back up his points was wild
Yo tec you forgot to link the vid in the description.
Remember when twitch’s main problem was react content? Good days
21:07 the fact these ppl can lie when there’s video evidence shows how delusional they can be smh
Yeah think before you sleep makes great content.
Failing at onlyfans is the most humuliating thing at all. imagine being all 'hey guys, look my pss' and everyone 'naaaaah'
0:31- Honestly shouldn't have a naked model to begin with lol
no sauce for the video being reacted too?
Tectone the mf goat, fuck the snakes and liars
Twitch management is amazingly horribly inconsistent incompetent and prejudiced.
But then hot tub streamers should have to do the same thing then. If you’re not actively at a pool, beach or in a hot tub then it shouldn’t be allowed
be the man you are and just throw that clip uncensored for the rest of us. You lead us into a new Revolution. But in all honesty and jokes aside. I don't see what the problem is. Honestly, the real problem they're having with you is it's an animated character or 3D model and not a real human being. I'm telling. you're telling you people are taking the whole we love anime girls or 3D characters. Seriously enough that they're starting to ban stuff like that. is what it seems like. I mean, yeah, you could get on there and Twitch and you'll see a girl will literally hardly anything on and it's fine, but as soon as you see a 3D model of an anime character do that, they get banned. Kind of disheartening for anybody trying to get into that kind of line of work and stuff. But what's new? Everyone is always trying to find a way to shut down the anime. Munga and Vtuber stuff.
VIOLENCE!
On the Tectone not knowing when WW2 was point. Is that something that they don't teach in US schools? (I'm a European btw, so genuinely curious)
they teach it here
49 seconds is crazy early
It seems you're not grasping my point. I mentioned earlier in the comments, albeit seven hours late, that this issue only targets V-tuber models, not regular girls. It's somewhat discriminatory when you think about it. Perhaps I shouldn't have phrased it like that, but it's along those lines. So, I disagree with your statement. I do concur with the need for age restrictions and censorship on certain content. However, it's problematic to support their current actions and then allow regular streamers to engage in the same behavior without repercussions. The moment a V-tuber does it, they face a ban. We've previously discussed the push against sexualized characters and content, and I view this as a continuation of that agenda. They seem to want to shield certain individuals from content that is deemed too appealing. That's my perspective, and I hope it comes across clearly in my comments. Apologies, but that's how I see it.
Lucky timing
Yep I agree with Teccy about that WW2 date,
bro I don't care who you are If anybody yapped as much as he does everybody would say a lot of stupid shit for sure, maybe even more stupid,
otherwise avoiding certain topics and creating this fake personality for internet points will just make you fake and forgettable.
4:48 ye mission accomplished you look hella dumb saying that💀😭
ban all politics on twitch
Techtone I know you read your comments. So when you see this know The reason why I watch you is because there's nothing I hate most then being lied to I care about knowing the truth.
But it the establisments fault if a strip club opens in a theme park
LOL. Yes, I would agree with what he said about minor shouldn't be exposed to this, but if her site was set for 18 plus, then I don't see the problem. And again, you see stuff like that on cartoon network for Christ's sake. Any cartoon you watch nowadays has some kind of. sexual content to it. in some way or form, especially in the fan art. So yeah, I still don't see his point there.
Pokke will fix the vtuber community dw
You should come on anything else/ bridges
Twitch, isn't this one of the apps that shows mostly gamers playing video games?
@52:27