In re the shipyard: If you look at each of those increments, you'll see the total cost is 1 million per 100 tons expansion, no matter which increment. What you'll also find is that at 6 months, you'll build 1200 tons (200 tons a month), at 15 months, you'll build 5400 tons (360 tons / month) and at 24 months you'll build 9600 tons (400 tons / month). So, if you're after a large shipyard during the life of a campaign, the quickest way to do it is to go for the 24 month plan, but since you're then building 400 tons a month, it'll also cost you 4 million / month (at 1 million per 100 tons built). If you have a lower monthly budget, then the shorter increments, with their slower tons / month build rate would be the way to go.
You build 466.6.. tons per month (1400/3) but you start 1600 tons in the hole. So each time you start building you have to build 1600 tons worth at 467t/month before the docks start getting bigger. (1400/3)month - 1600
In 1890 or 1900 campaign, do not underestimate the power of 3 inch casemate and secondary, make it 3.9inch(98.9mm) and +20length with veteran crew it will have okey dmg(20dmg per hit in average with he), good accuracy(base 23% at 1km 0.4% at 10km), long range(max 10km) and very good rof (5s reload). It will not shows that in shipyard(which said max 7.5km range) but you can see it in battle. I found it out in a hard way in my 1890 british campaign(update15), german 3 and 4 inch hit my battleship so hard repeatedly like using GAU-8 gatling gun firing at BTR, my crews died 45% very quick. It actually already been nerf in update 16(crews died much slower) but the dmg is still here, and it will knock out main and secondary tower easlily. This trick in 1910 dreadnought time is not that good, only good at pre-dreadnought time.
8:45 Not sure if you know this, but if you hold down Shift you can fine-tune the placement of ship components. It helps a ton for saving space or making some.
It goes to smaller increments of movement, but it won't ever go to completely fluid placement; kinda unfortunate, sometimes going a few pixels further might make something fit whereas it simply can't with the current system.
welp, looks like you might want to change the name of this "post mortem" series, because it seems it was a 1900 campaign, not 1890!(honestly makes sense, as the poll results were mostly in favor of that starting year)
3in up till 1910/1920 are actually good against light target. Also 105mm/4in are really strong till 1920 Also the large torpedo boat is considered a dd and not tb
Which still begs the question of cross-version compatibility. No use having a save around if it's bugged to high heaven and back because it was made using an older version. Once that patch hits stable that hopefully won't be a problem anymore.
Kinda feels like that predreadnaught hull is asking you to put a big turret on the aft deck and a smaller one on the fore deck. Not saying it's a good idea, to be clear, just that that's what it looks like it wants.
I suggest you increase the draft and reduce the beam of ships to improve thier range substantially. They might have some accuracy penalties but they give some decent bonuses in return. And you will be able to save weight due to the increase of the minimum operational range.
@stealth17 if you chop off a little displacement off the hull of GER ships they tend to do better. For the BB III if you do a little cutting it will remove one "lifeboat" and one secondary turret placement position. But actually the BB II is a superior hull to the BB III - because the BB II can use the large tower and 12 inch guns with almost max barrel. Note the BB I cannot fit 12 with longer barrel.
11:41(this should probably be pinned) Disregard that comment of Stealth's. This series was recorded before an update to the Beta wiped out the save file for the campaign. I'm saying this in case you missed his message at the beginning of the video.
Found your content only recently and I do love the game and your replays. (Just finished the italian speed boats, RIP Regina) I got interested in warships thanks to world of warships, but their marketing tactics pushed me away from that years ago. This game seems a very interesting alternative, even though it's only single player.
I have an army of 40 Torpedo Boats, they go 21 knots but they have 6 5-inch guns, 4 3-inch guns, and a 15-inch torpedo.. For the low price of 385,000$! Lets just say the enemy never stood a chance.. xD Outfitted the main guns with max AP for killing Armored Cruisers.. had something like 11.5inch pen.. xD
In long campaign a few things came up: 1. Tech tree is weirly scrambled - battleship II some time after III; citadel I followed by IV (maybe II and III in later research) 2. There needs to be way to invest in inrease of individual port capacity (quite expensive but rather fast and maybe some bonus to GDP) Played as Germany 1890-1910 and than save reset came :(. I won in wars Malta, Corsica, Tunis and Cyprus. In last war with UK my ports were over limit every other turn. And it would realy be nice to be able to base my fleet in Med ports (even if they had no capacity). Also kinda anoying having to evict french and UK ships from my Med ports (DD/CL) every turn. Wow start at 1900 is so bad. Mark I 12in long(+20%) guns fit with top tower :) CREW is missing (spacius qurters is way to go in last version).
If you have space, you can both have the old laubcher and the beta steam versions. The laucher ver. will only be upped, when betas go to full ver. But prob is that every beta come in clusters of revisions, denying any rollbacks, and that 'kalibrates' longer camps fully.
ok someone needs to explain how the transport loss function works!. i have ships in all my ports, i have ships in where i have a coast with ships on the protect thingy. still lose 8 convoys when the power projection difference of 500 or smth like that.
We need a campaign in 1890 where you only are allowed to have 1 ship at any point of the campaign. That way you start with 1 battleship which you can refit (or replace if sunk) at any time and will replace when you decide to switch to a new hull.
Doing a refit or rebuild you might have a hiatus of up to 15 Months without a ship. in that time you are not only going to lose transports but aso ports and provinces.
I've tried it. It's extremely complex and very hardcore simulator. Also doesn't make for very good video unless you're a military expert. Explosions, animations and other visual effects tend to attract a lot more viewers.
Hey stealth you know when they'll stop releasing updates that delete your saves, I made from 1910 france to 1924 and had advanced tech and what do you know the game crashes then immediately has to update
play the game with steam in offline mode and the game set to not update unless launched. that way it cant update when it is online unless you try to open it, so you go offline to play it
So got a question: i decided to get the game for myself but i ran into a problem meaning when i decide to start a campaign in 1930 or 1940 game goes to loading screen and then just freezes anyone knows how to deal with that?
Right click on the game in your Steam library and select properties. Now click the Beta tab, and there's a drop-down menu where you can opt-in to the Beta releases of the game.
since your doing other video how about you build a superbattleship 1940 if its the highest it can go but the only rule that i give is that your not allowed to move stuff beyond the yellow marked with the plus in your only allowed to put it where they are marked on the ship. it would also be a interesting challenge against your buddy to see who can handle it better and since your buddy doesnt show the build he needs to show the build to so there will be no cheating
Hey Stealth. I am new here. Just watched a couple of your vids. Actually watched all your 1.06 beta france seires. Sucks you can't continue it. I got a question how come you don't randomize your navy at the start and always instead create your own?
@@Stealth17Gaming That is what i figured. I tend to use it as a RP thing like i am the new chief of the navy and that is what the previous guy had designed and than i go from there. But i will probably try a run where i design ships from the get go. Still sorta new to this game so my designs aren't always to great. Lol
@@Milksomecows110 I'd like to see him do a play-through like this, would be interesting to see how he overcomes the AI! PS: Please have it start in 1920?
Because that way I can get a big crew pool for when I do have ships. It also means my crews don't start at rookie but go straight to veteran if I keep it up long enough.
You could maybe consider some form of "Monitor" vessel. One turret forward, with stupidly large guns, no aft turret, and *extremely* limited secondaries. All placed on the smallest hull possible. In the real world, these were used for Naval Gunfire Support (blowing up things ashore), but using them in a fleet engagement is not entirely out of the question.
It absolutely got deleted too. It put me in the mood to start a new campaign and mine was deleted, thrice now. I have tried 3 times and 3 times my save was fin. The last deletion was on June 20th so it's recent as well.
I stopped playing after repeatedly losing save files. I tried to backup save files…and promptly lost them. Why they refuse to implement a real save feature instead of that stupid system they have now, baffles me.
Just got the game after watching a couple of your videos, loving them by the way, how do you set up the campaigns so your not already in a war? Might have missed that setting, or is it a mod?
Title changed. No problem not to start without a navy. No navy also means no tension with other nations which would normall be caused by having a navy.
@@Stealth17Gaming True but if war breaks out before your ships are done then you can be immediately blockaded which will screw over your economy. Even in peace time nations usually kept at least a small number of ships active to protect their interests and just in case something did happen. Unfortunately, if this series follows history then you may not be able to stay at peace for long as I believe that the Germans were not on the best of terms with their neighbors.
![Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts - Bismarck Rises [Historical Germany 1940 Campaign #1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/emIDpl4G9es/mqdefault.jpg)
In re the shipyard: If you look at each of those increments, you'll see the total cost is 1 million per 100 tons expansion, no matter which increment. What you'll also find is that at 6 months, you'll build 1200 tons (200 tons a month), at 15 months, you'll build 5400 tons (360 tons / month) and at 24 months you'll build 9600 tons (400 tons / month). So, if you're after a large shipyard during the life of a campaign, the quickest way to do it is to go for the 24 month plan, but since you're then building 400 tons a month, it'll also cost you 4 million / month (at 1 million per 100 tons built). If you have a lower monthly budget, then the shorter increments, with their slower tons / month build rate would be the way to go.
Would be nice to be able to adjust the length of a build/costs of a build if you could control how long it takes to build the ship
You build 466.6.. tons per month (1400/3) but you start 1600 tons in the hole.
So each time you start building you have to build 1600 tons worth at 467t/month before the docks start getting bigger.
(1400/3)month - 1600
In 1890 or 1900 campaign, do not underestimate the power of 3 inch casemate and secondary, make it 3.9inch(98.9mm) and +20length with veteran crew it will have okey dmg(20dmg per hit in average with he), good accuracy(base 23% at 1km 0.4% at 10km), long range(max 10km) and very good rof (5s reload). It will not shows that in shipyard(which said max 7.5km range) but you can see it in battle.
I found it out in a hard way in my 1890 british campaign(update15), german 3 and 4 inch hit my battleship so hard repeatedly like using GAU-8 gatling gun firing at BTR, my crews died 45% very quick.
It actually already been nerf in update 16(crews died much slower) but the dmg is still here, and it will knock out main and secondary tower easlily.
This trick in 1910 dreadnought time is not that good, only good at pre-dreadnought time.
8:45 Not sure if you know this, but if you hold down Shift you can fine-tune the placement of ship components. It helps a ton for saving space or making some.
Yes I use it all the time.
It goes to smaller increments of movement, but it won't ever go to completely fluid placement; kinda unfortunate, sometimes going a few pixels further might make something fit whereas it simply can't with the current system.
A 40 minute build episode.... my dreams have come true
i love how you gave a torpedo boat massive guns and basically turned it into a monitor
welp, looks like you might want to change the name of this "post mortem" series, because it seems it was a 1900 campaign, not 1890!(honestly makes sense, as the poll results were mostly in favor of that starting year)
Oh yes you're right. Will fix
@@Kr0noZ . . .what are you talking about? my comment was about the title of his video, not placement of turrets/superstructure on a ship!
@@Railman1225 wtf... this went to the wrong comment, I must have misclicked somewhere. Sorry, my bad. I was trying to respond to something else.
@@Kr0noZ it's alright, i figured as much from what it said
Hi Stealth, just wanted to say I’m loving all of your content, and thanks for listening in to the comments. Keep up the good work.
3in up till 1910/1920 are actually good against light target.
Also 105mm/4in are really strong till 1920
Also the large torpedo boat is considered a dd and not tb
16:50 I think you can fit dual 5" in those slots but you have to turn the guns a bit for them to fit, looks wonky though.
Within the hour. Nice. Gonna have to start a campaign myself and play with the 20%longer barrel shenanigans
Just a tip, every so often, I actually go and make a manual copy of my save files.
Which still begs the question of cross-version compatibility. No use having a save around if it's bugged to high heaven and back because it was made using an older version.
Once that patch hits stable that hopefully won't be a problem anymore.
Kinda feels like that predreadnaught hull is asking you to put a big turret on the aft deck and a smaller one on the fore deck.
Not saying it's a good idea, to be clear, just that that's what it looks like it wants.
I suggest you increase the draft and reduce the beam of ships to improve thier range substantially. They might have some accuracy penalties but they give some decent bonuses in return. And you will be able to save weight due to the increase of the minimum operational range.
@stealth17 if you chop off a little displacement off the hull of GER ships they tend to do better. For the BB III if you do a little cutting it will remove one "lifeboat" and one secondary turret placement position. But actually the BB II is a superior hull to the BB III - because the BB II can use the large tower and 12 inch guns with almost max barrel. Note the BB I cannot fit 12 with longer barrel.
11:41(this should probably be pinned) Disregard that comment of Stealth's. This series was recorded before an update to the Beta wiped out the save file for the campaign. I'm saying this in case you missed his message at the beginning of the video.
Hi Stealth.
Been away in Ukraine and now home. Been missing your superb vis so whatever you "punt out" will be top notch in my books squire.
*Vids not vis lol.
Found your content only recently and I do love the game and your replays. (Just finished the italian speed boats, RIP Regina)
I got interested in warships thanks to world of warships, but their marketing tactics pushed me away from that years ago.
This game seems a very interesting alternative, even though it's only single player.
"I'm sorry I was really planning on doing a normal campaign"
If it was normal we wouldn't have something to laugh about going into the weekend ,,,
Yeah thats true i especially like designing excesevely bulky massive riveted steampunk super dreadnoughts 😉
That's a shame, but that's how it is with beta versions. Eagerly awaiting your next campaign! And secretly hoping it's France in 1920.
I think now larger chunks for shipyard upgrades but is faster than doing the same in smaller chunks
Still happy to see the short campaign :)
Lol, I literally had the safe file deleted from my Italy campaign, I was doing so well too, RIP Safefiles.
great content, i just want to point out, you forget ether the barell length when you have casemates or turret armor on some of the ships
Don't worries, this series unfortunately have short life (4 episode)
@@marco_grt4460 yeah i know, it also is probably made far in advance..... but you know... i kinda had to write it...
I have an army of 40 Torpedo Boats, they go 21 knots but they have 6 5-inch guns, 4 3-inch guns, and a 15-inch torpedo.. For the low price of 385,000$!
Lets just say the enemy never stood a chance.. xD
Outfitted the main guns with max AP for killing Armored Cruisers.. had something like 11.5inch pen.. xD
The large torpedo boat is classed as a DD
In long campaign a few things came up:
1. Tech tree is weirly scrambled - battleship II some time after III; citadel I followed by IV (maybe II and III in later research)
2. There needs to be way to invest in inrease of individual port capacity (quite expensive but rather fast and maybe some bonus to GDP)
Played as Germany 1890-1910 and than save reset came :(. I won in wars Malta, Corsica, Tunis and Cyprus. In last war with UK my ports were over limit every other turn. And it would realy be nice to be able to base my fleet in Med ports (even if they had no capacity). Also kinda anoying having to evict french and UK ships from my Med ports (DD/CL) every turn.
Wow start at 1900 is so bad.
Mark I 12in long(+20%) guns fit with top tower :)
CREW is missing (spacius qurters is way to go in last version).
If you have space, you can both have the old laubcher and the beta steam versions. The laucher ver. will only be upped, when betas go to full ver. But prob is that every beta come in clusters of revisions, denying any rollbacks, and that 'kalibrates' longer camps fully.
Hi stealth good to see your going to make some videos I love your content cause I’m a history buff lol.
On the dreadnauts you forgot to upgrade the shell charges and propellant
Should have made the beam a tad bit bigger, the 13in should have sat fine
this game looks fun and i love your content!!!
I baught it after seeing a lot of videos. No regrets. The music is fantastic.
ok someone needs to explain how the transport loss function works!. i have ships in all my ports, i have ships in where i have a coast with ships on the protect thingy. still lose 8 convoys when the power projection difference of 500 or smth like that.
Honestly, I would love to see a campaign where Germany does it’s damndest to make friends with either the French or the Brits.
That's what I was hoping for. I'm going to try to make that work somehow.
We need a campaign in 1890 where you only are allowed to have 1 ship at any point of the campaign. That way you start with 1 battleship which you can refit (or replace if sunk) at any time and will replace when you decide to switch to a new hull.
One ship can't be called a navy. He'd need at least two
Doing a refit or rebuild you might have a hiatus of up to 15 Months without a ship. in that time you are not only going to lose transports but aso ports and provinces.
@@Culpride That is true, maybe 1 ship of each class then (1 BB, 1 CA, 1 CL, 1TB)
Or only 1 ship operational at a time (on missions) but you can have multiple idle in port.
Based Überkanonenboot
First ship. I think you had enough engine efficiency with the one funnel though it moved so quickly I can't be positive.
Yaay! Long campaign soon! :-D
No ships? No problem.
I would love to see you do Command Modern Operations, if you think you would like to try that. Their's a big lack of good videos on it.
I've tried it. It's extremely complex and very hardcore simulator. Also doesn't make for very good video unless you're a military expert. Explosions, animations and other visual effects tend to attract a lot more viewers.
you keep missing that the semi armoured cruiser is actually a light cruiser hull heh
Will you make a ship building guide? I just started out and basically got screwed over by AI even when I'm punching below my weight class
Hey stealth you know when they'll stop releasing updates that delete your saves, I made from 1910 france to 1924 and had advanced tech and what do you know the game crashes then immediately has to update
play the game with steam in offline mode and the game set to not update unless launched. that way it cant update when it is online unless you try to open it, so you go offline to play it
...how do you not see the correlation between tonnage and expense...?
love ur vids
So got a question: i decided to get the game for myself but i ran into a problem meaning when i decide to start a campaign in 1930 or 1940 game goes to loading screen and then just freezes anyone knows how to deal with that?
Love the content
I did win a war that way . having a huge naval budget with tons if inovations . driving italy and austria in to bancrupcy .
something something something something something something something bump side
-torpedo boat- *shrunk battleship*
austrian campaign when?
Maybe when 1.06 is stable
So how do you get a hold of the beta version because I'd love to give this a try as I figure it'll be a bit until it gets fully released
Right click on the game in your Steam library and select properties. Now click the Beta tab, and there's a drop-down menu where you can opt-in to the Beta releases of the game.
@@itsmezed Awesome! Thank you, I appreciate it man!
@@OdinsVikingr Glad I could help! :)
since your doing other video how about you build a superbattleship 1940 if its the highest it can go but the only rule that i give is that your not allowed to move stuff beyond the yellow marked with the plus in your only allowed to put it where they are marked on the ship.
it would also be a interesting challenge against your buddy to see who can handle it better
and since your buddy doesnt show the build he needs to show the build to so there will be no cheating
You shouldn’t require torpedoes on a torpedo boat or destroyer
Will you restart the german campaign when 1.06 drops
When the patch is complete can you redo the German campaign as well as the Admiral logs
Hey Stealth. I am new here. Just watched a couple of your vids. Actually watched all your 1.06 beta france seires. Sucks you can't continue it. I got a question how come you don't randomize your navy at the start and always instead create your own?
AI designs suck
@@Stealth17Gaming That is what i figured. I tend to use it as a RP thing like i am the new chief of the navy and that is what the previous guy had designed and than i go from there. But i will probably try a run where i design ships from the get go. Still sorta new to this game so my designs aren't always to great. Lol
@@Milksomecows110 I'd like to see him do a play-through like this, would be interesting to see how he overcomes the AI!
PS: Please have it start in 1920?
@@Cruellers4Life yeah definitely would be interesting to see.
why did you put only 3 sets of secondaries instead of 4?
I know this was recorded a while before but why was budget on crew training if you have no ships.
Because that way I can get a big crew pool for when I do have ships. It also means my crews don't start at rookie but go straight to veteran if I keep it up long enough.
Is this game going to have planes or in the interest of making ship combat they're not included? I barely know anything about this game
Have you tried not updating until finishing the campaign?
You could maybe consider some form of "Monitor" vessel. One turret forward, with stupidly large guns, no aft turret, and *extremely* limited secondaries. All placed on the smallest hull possible.
In the real world, these were used for Naval Gunfire Support (blowing up things ashore), but using them in a fleet engagement is not entirely out of the question.
What about France's long campaign? Will there be more videos on it, or is it finished?
It absolutely got deleted too. It put me in the mood to start a new campaign and mine was deleted, thrice now. I have tried 3 times and 3 times my save was fin. The last deletion was on June 20th so it's recent as well.
Got deleted, sadly
hey you followed my plan that I commented last week :) For me it works quite ok.
Unintentional.
Oh man hopefully they’ll be good episodes
Also first comment
I stopped playing after repeatedly losing save files. I tried to backup save files…and promptly lost them. Why they refuse to implement a real save feature instead of that stupid system they have now, baffles me.
Just got the game after watching a couple of your videos, loving them by the way, how do you set up the campaigns so your not already in a war? Might have missed that setting, or is it a mod?
Not the best choice to start out with no actual navy. Need a title change as it is 1900 not 1890.
Title changed. No problem not to start without a navy. No navy also means no tension with other nations which would normall be caused by having a navy.
@@Stealth17Gaming True but if war breaks out before your ships are done then you can be immediately blockaded which will screw over your economy.
Even in peace time nations usually kept at least a small number of ships active to protect their interests and just in case something did happen. Unfortunately, if this series follows history then you may not be able to stay at peace for long as I believe that the Germans were not on the best of terms with their neighbors.
@@dragonslayer2107 Makes life interesting
@@Stealth17Gaming Fair enough.
27 minutes ago woo