TIME FOR WAR! - Shogun Episode 4 Reaction
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- Опубліковано 12 бер 2024
- Suzy & Steejo react to Shogun for the first time. Shōgun follows "the collision of two ambitious men from different worlds and a mysterious female samurai
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I think that many ppl don't understand the real power of the dialogue that came after the earthquake. What Mariko said is a brilliant summary of why Japan nation is the way it is. Living in such a hostile environment, and facing death constantly, determined the Japanese approach to the matters of life and death. Death for the Japanese was something very normal, equal to life itself. Japanese believed, that they would be reborn or continue their existence as spirits. They didn't see death in the way Europeans did. P.S. Natto is a fermented soy beans: it actually smells and looks worse than it tastes :)
Back in feudal Japan, war was common like fighting every other Tuesday. If you don't die in war, dying by earthquakes or a tsunami could be your fate. That was life. However, the Japanese were so good at keeping records of their history and culture even if they burned down a castle here and there, and clans being completely dessimated all over Japan.
The Dialogue I one of the best parts of this wonderful show.
This is a fabulous and insightful comment. Something not many reactors are picking up on, that the series is showing. Far too many reactors are applying their 21st century, Western values to everything and not picking up the insights on display.
They literally called it a baby earthquake, which, as someone who has never experienced one, would not give me any confidence to learn an event that shakes the land is being disregarded as a common occurrence.
@@atToebiscuit My comment is not abut Blackthorn's reaction to the event :)
MARIKO WOULD HAVE MADE A MOVE EARLIER BUT SHE WAITED TILL HE TOOK ANOTHER BATH LOL
The whole show is just white man taking bath and pillowing😂
I mean, that's a good call.
😂😂
Natto looks bad, but is a superfood that keeps beauty and health. and so tasty for me😊
25:44 As someone else mentioned on another reactor's channel: "One should not step on moss in a moss garden. It's like stepping on the flowers in a flower garden."
I'm convinced Yabushige is just trying to keep his head the whole time. He knows the games that the big guys are playing, but he is happy being in the middle. He knows loyalty to Torunaga is dangerous, but he also knows if betrayal is too open and too soon, he will also die. So he keeps trying to stay on side with Torunaga and Ishido. It's clear Torunaga knows this. I honestly think Yabushige is smart enough to know that being too big is not good for his health. It's funny because he's kinda caught between life and death from episode 2 onwards, and that happens to be the moment that fascinates him. Almost as if his perverse fixation on watching how others face death curses him to constantly live on the verge of his own.
Dude that was well said. I feel like your Yabushige hahaha
You have to remember that environment shapes people and culture, and that's what Mariko was explaining. The reason their houses are ''flimsy'' is practical. And the reason they think about death and are ''comfortable'' with it (as much as you can be), is because it's always around the corner in one way or another, whether it is nature or warfare.
The Portuguese cannons were perfectly fine, they simply deceived the Japanese into believing they weren't accurate so when the time came to take over Japan completely, they (The Japanese) wouldn't be prepared or expect an assault from the sea.
politics lol
@@BLUE-un3il Politics indeed...
Take over japan 😅 yeah that never happened
@@ryufight7987 I'm not saying at all that it was, rather than that was the intention.
1 Koku (一石) is Japanese unit of volume. Approximately Equivalent to 180 litres, or about 150 kg of rice.
So his yearly salary is 240 Koku 36 tons of rice. Rice can then be traded into other goods such as livestock or coin.
Simular to salt for the romans, or grain and gold for Egypt.
I don’t want any generous cuckoos ….
Thats alot of rice
"They don't have any guns!" We literally saw them carrying guns in the first episode when they found the ship LOL
These days Japanese could produce guns by themself. Actually all numbers of guns in Japan were more than whole Europe in those days.
I know but it's not like everyone knows, plus that type of gun (John's guns) are from the early 1800's, but those are details.
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@@Pakicetus_ *1700s
This show is stunning. Aside form the story, it is how well all the "minor" things get care and attention.
They are not just speaking Japanese, but old form. Much like performing Shakespear. The mass majority of viewers will not even know.
A ton of consultants, to make sure the all the costume, envior ment are all correct, including consultant on time correct .mannerisms. The waling, the correct bow ect. (you are still allowed to be amused by their walking)
Yes. Every time I watched the show, I was always in awe. The story, the attention to its minor details, the costume, the complexity of each character, and the small subcontext such as the juxtaposition of cultures, the tit-for-tat love-hate relationship between John and Rodrigues, and many other things are perfectly placed without making it feel out of place. Every element was so perfect and beautifully crafted. So much so that once in a while, even after the show has ended, I'll pay it a revisit.
Yes, some stories are fun with their twists and turns, and they're binge-worthy, alright. But Shōgun is just something else.
This episode was wow!
The ending really shocked me! - Suzy
28:15 - Man, Blackthorne really doesn't like Omi. Piss on a guy just one time and he can't let it go...
John doesnt prevent the man being boiled alive in the book. Also, Hatamoto is a title/class, like Samurai or Shogun or The Taiko (Whose name was Nakamura but I don't know if that comes up). His name is still John/Anjin.
Nattou are fermented soybeans.
William Adams, who Blackthorne is based on, is from Kent not London.
EDIT: The weapon Mariko wielded was a naginata, a type of polearm.
Tell the gaijin, come to Japan and try natto themselves. I eat it 2/3 days a week for breakfast with miso soup. The simple add to rice, crack raw egg and garnish it soy sauce. Sometimes I add nori on top. I love it!
It's a polearm, not a halberd specifically
NO! It's a naginata. Polearm is what I used to bone yr mom!@@leonrussell9607
@@leonrussell9607Thanks for the correction.
Such good dialogue in this episode
this show is so funny honestly...and really moving
Just a quick clarification. In the book, John didn't save anyone from being boiled I'm afraid.
Oh, someone said so in the comments. Sorry. - Steejo
Yeah,, I figured if he had it'd be more dramatic, so when I heard that I thought it sounded weird that they would choose to CUT OUT dramatic effect in ANYTHING based on actual events.
Yabushige catches no break. The show.
Its obvious that Mariko IS the love interest. BUT this episode put Fuji very high up in the Waifu tier list.
Also, being that she (Fuji)is the consort, Mariko cant have John just running his mouth and saying to the wrong people they slept together behind her back, thus the whole courtesan angle. Thankfully, John quickly picked up the subtext and did not ask further questions and just expressed that the “gift” was appreciated.
Bit of trivia .. Both the Erasmus ship set and the cannons were originally Captain Hooks Jolly Rodger ship in Peter Pan and Wendy.
Its about get real from now on 💥
I am Japanese. Some people seem to be making a fuss that there are no black people in SHOGUN. If there are people who are complaining, I think they should just write the story themselves, decide on the cast, and create an attractive work. Decades before this era, a black slave who served Nobunaga was named Yasuke and became a samurai. However, Nobunaga was assassinated and Yasuke was stripped of his samurai status and disappeared. Before him, there were no black people in Japan. And there are no samurai who have black blood. Also, at the time of this drama, there were no Americans coming to Japan, only Europeans. Also, there were no black aristocrats in Europe at the time.
I don't think you'll find anyone disagreeing with you here. - Steejo
woke left making some statements which he finds I think
弥助は武士ではありません。宣教師の奴隷を譲り受けただけです。彼らの妄想に迎合しないでください。
yasuke was not samurai.
批判してるのは少数でしょ。気にする必要はない。
@@neko38cat
織田信長は宣教師の奴隷だった黒人に興味を持ち、体に炭を塗っているのかを疑い体をしている洗わせたが、本当に肌が黒い人種がいることを知ると、その黒人に弥助という名前を与えて旗本という武士の身分を与えて親衛隊にしました。これは記録にも残っています。
最後は信長と共に大群に包囲されて、暗殺されたか行方不明になった。きっと信長を守るために勇敢に戦って戦士したでしょう。
彼に息子がいたかどうかは記録に残っていませんし、家系が残ったという記録もありません。
弥助は黒人の侍という唯一の例です。
Fuji.. being grand-daughter of Toranaga’s main general outranks everyone in that village with the exception of toranaga’s son. Maybe equal to Mariko .. nut i cant explain marikos rank with out spoiler. Fuji is such a ride or die woman.. and very strong in her honor and loyalty.. thanks soo much for an entertaining and wonderful reaction to this spectacular show
Omi was being a weakling bully. He's a two-bit boss of a po-dunk fishing village. Fuji called his bluff and put him in his place.
Loved the original series from the 80s with Richard Chamberlain and the great Toshiro Mifune as a kid. Rewatched it a few years ago, and for me it stood the test of time. But I guess after more than 30 years, a remake was unavoidable. And the 1st episode looks promising. Still have to catch up...😅
The original series told only a part of the whole complex story from the book and here we get way more.
The 1980 miniseries was all told from the point of view of Blackthorne, to the extent that they didn’t put subtitles tot he Japanese dialogue so you feel the confusion Blackthorne felt and him trying to parse meaning from non verbal communication.
This series tell it more from the point of view of the Japanese characters …
日本人なのに月に数えるくらいしか納豆は食べませんでしたが、按針が食べているのを観てから毎日食べてます。
blackthorne will take care of all the swearings in this show 😂😂
Izu Ajiro(伊豆 網代) is located in Silent Hill(静岡).
巨大地震でも木造建築は比較的人は助かりますね。石やレンガ作りだと一瞬で終わりです。巨大地震で怖いのは津波ですね。
2011年3月11日の東日本大震災では超巨大地震が起こりましたが巨大津波での被害死者が多数出ましたね。
一番高い津波で40Mの高さがありました。
40Mの高さの津波の場合、遭遇したらほぼ死を意味します。
It is so foreign for us in the UK where we don't get any natural disasters, I can't imagine how terrifying it must be. - Steejo
当時は納豆の匂いがきつかっただろうによく按針は食べることが出来たな( *´艸｀)✨
Oh, John’s crew member got lobstered in the book. 100%
It is a masterpiece, and your thumbnail tells everything : Tadanobu Asano is killing in this show... his role, and especially his expressions in this episode, are priceless..
53:02 YEAH~~~~
He was eating Natto, a fermented (soy) bean curd [I had to look it up].
Tadanobu Asano, who plays Kashigi is also one of Japan's leading actors. In Japan, most of them appear in movies as leading roles, and they rarely appear in TV dramas. He is a famous actor who has won numerous domestic and international awards, including the Japan Academy Award. Originally, he was classified as a cool, handsome actor who often played roles with a twisted and dark heart, and had many young female fans. However, from around the age of 40, the number of roles with comedic elements increased. He is also an actor with a strong presence in Japan.
【NATTO】For natto, we recommend small grains or hikiwari.
Usually, soy sauce (mentsuyu is also fine), mustard, and chopped green onions. If you like it, mix raw eggs in there. Eat with warm rice.
A combination of sugar, soy sauce, and green onions. Alternatively, if you chop up avocado or kimchi and mix it in, even people who don't like it may be able to enjoy it.
Some people mix it with soy sauce and mustard and put it on bread, then top it with cheese and make it toast.
He is my favorite on the show. Among many good actors.
And lord raiden in mortal Kombat movie
If you like the character of Kashigi Yabushige, I highly recommend the movies Yojimbo and Sanjuro, the lead character in both is practically an early inspiration for Yabushige.
Did youn guys see a Show called Warrior? If you like Shogun you might like it.
You seem to be doing the same thing in your last reaction video, but what about laughing at the way women in kimonos walk?
Would they sneer at a geisha in a kimono in modern Kyoto with the same strange look on their face?
I'm sorry that you can't find the humour in someone being forced to take tiny steps because their outfit is so restrictive. And for the record, no, we wouldn't sneer nor laugh at someone in real life having to do this because that would be rude AF - Steejo
@@SuzySteejoit wasn’t a restrictive thing, it was a “proper” thing. These Women were raised to believe to keep their knees closed as much as possible. Hence the walk. On that topic, just to highjack this person’s complaint, dye job keeps trying to project her modern western culture into 1600s culture. It always reminds me of eddie murphys joke from his “delirious” stand up about how black people act like they couldn’t have been slaves in the past. Every time there’s something about a womans place in the show, she’s got some modern feminist comment lol like she would’ve really fought against the only culture she knew.
42:33 Natto = Fermented Soybeans. Sticky, stinky, an acquired taste. A staple of the Japanese Breakfast.
Just come to Japan gaijin, and try natto for yourself. I eat natto every 2 days of the week for breakfast with miso soup. Add natto to rice, crack a raw egg and garnish it with soy sauce.
We do need to go back to Japan! - Steejo
I am about to joke with nothing but love for the two of you (and I know you won't do this) but I can't help but picture the two of you doing your loud (and endearing) verbal back and forth in the middle of an outraged audience of theater types trying to hush you and shooting daggers at the two of you with their eyes.
240 koku a year, adjusted for inflation from 1600 to today would be around 15.00,00 £ or 1.250,00 £ per month.
I don't know if that sounds accurate. 1 koku represented the amount of food (specifically rice) needed to feed 1 man for an entire year. So theoretically John actually has enough wealth from being a Hatamoto to support a small platoon of soldiers himself. I think the wage if converted would be a lot higher than that.
EDIT: Found an online source that said 1 koku was worth 1 ryo (usually) which as a set weight of gold that translates roughly to $800 USD. Just rounding up quickly, 240 koku a year is almost $240k a year.
Can you explain the three sitting down at the end of the episode? Why did she say "we thought she would make a good gift"? It was mariko herself John had just slept with no?
She was being coy as to not talk about what happened in public, especially in front of Fuji. It was Mariko, yes. - Steejo
This show is spicy 🥵
80％ of Japanese people like nattou. It is tasty and good for health.
I think it's the same as Haggis for Scottish people, or perhaps Durian fruit. The idea of it seems repulsive until you actually try it. - Steejo
東京など日本の東に住む人たちは納豆が好きですが、大阪など西に住む人たちはあまり納得が好きではありません
Jozen on a vacation far away ♫♫♫
Natto is fermented beans. That’s why it smells like cheese
You should try Natto😆 I used to hate Natto so much. It is really stinky. but some point I start to like it. It's like coffee. Children don't like coffee right? it takes time to like Natto. I bet you you'll hate it first time you eat.
The stinky thing he was eating was fermented soy beans
At worst natto is bland and flavorless. I'm under the impression that homemade natto can taste better depending on ingredients.
I believe natto is fermented soybeans. Korea has a stew version called cheong guk jang. They generally taste fine but they can smell pretty foul lol
Luv ur accents❤ Where u both from?
I think they're Irish 🇮🇪💥
We are Scottish. 😊 - suzy
@@SuzySteejoVery cool! I subscribed (from Taiwan). Look forward to your future reactions with a Scottish twist ha
LMFAO 22:23
Wait is your Wife American and you Irish? . Sometimes she sounds like she's from the South maybe Texas. Then someties she sounds Brittish as well. It weird I can't peg her accent at all it changes. Im from California but I moved to Georgia as a teen and lived there for a While and now people think I sound like im f4om the South sometimes other people acdents can rub off on you.
Pretty sure they are both Scottish.
They are both Scottish.
This historical review of Japanese films is extremely accurate, even from a Japanese perspective.
You can tell by looking at the hands of the Japanese soldiers marching.
Everyone is holding hands, this is the traditional Japanese military practice.
Other Japanese war movies have not done this thoroughly.
I'm missing it.
納豆の美味しい食べ方はネギと生卵を入れると美味いんだー！そして１００回かき回す。
You should do a natto tasting video! Lol
Natto is fermented soya beans.
I'm not a fan of the forced romance that they've put. I knew and predicted from episode 1 that it would be the case but hope'd they didnt go this route.
Well it was written in the book. And in the 80s mini series. And in real life. So it was always going to happen there’s nothing forced about the romance. John has literally spent 80% of his time on this show speaking with and spending his time with Mariko. She believes he needed to be rewarded for all he’s done but he wouldn’t sleep with Fuji and Fuji didn’t want to sleep with him, but Mariko did from the first moment she saw him.
Ok..., Suzy sama~~~~~~
Mariko😩😩😩
Hmmm... I thought Mariko's eightfold wall was impenetrable? (ꆤ⍸ꆤ)
Natto is fame Ted soy bean it has a pungent smell 😊
Famented*
@@rolanechen2183 still wrong
Great reaction,
I want to have natto with you guys! lol
ITS BEANS AND BACTIREA FROM AN ANIMALE STOMACH I BELIVE. NATTO
You guys talk and scream a lot. I am sure thats not how we or anyone or even you for that matter do not watch anything seriously with such reactions.
Do you realize you are nearly the only UA-cam channel that’s watching this wonderful show kinda sad really🤦🏼🤷🏼♂️✌🏻