You're going to need more then a little one sentence comment to prove that. If you believe God's word is wrong, which is what Tim has used, then defend your point with scripture.
To make this even more clearer to our readers, I'm going to clarify a little. The bible says: Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we obey his COMMANDS and do what pleases him. AND THIS IS HIS COMMAND: to believe in the name of his son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as HE HAS COMMANDED US. Those who obey HIS COMMANDS (which are: to love others, and believe on the name of his son, Jesus Christ)......
In Isaiah 66, it also mentions the new moons-do you keep the new moon celebrations? Read Isaiah 66 again-it says they will meet "FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER"-that means everyday will be hallowed before the Lord, not just the sabbath. Otherwise be consistent in youe interpretaion and begin keeping the new moons, because it says "from one new moon to another", as well.
You see, if they had truly received rest on the seventh day, would God really have spoken of another day, calling that day today? When we come to Christ, he makes us complete in him. He makes us whole, he justifies us, pardons us. We're complete in him...and when Christ does that he raises you up to sit with him in heavenly places, where you can truly rest everyday.
Ellen white taught that the sabbath was the greatest command, but that is not what Jesus said, nor did Jesus quote two of the ten when asked what the greatest commandments were in the law. It's also interesting to note that when asked about "the law", he never asked which one for the sake of the listeners. There was only one, and that was the book. The book of the law, also called the book of the law of God.
I detest sin, I may fall because of my sinful nature, but I desire to follow the law of Christ. I don't desire a sinful life. My life was so radically changed when he came into my life, I couldn't even begin to contemplate returning to how things used to be. So no, I don't choose to say that I'm not under the law anymore so I can sin. How can I return to that life of sin after the Lord set me free? You and others have grossly misunderstood us and what we believe.
Paul also said: Romans 14:5-6 (KJV) 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks. Thats pretty plain...
The contract is still there to be viewed anytime, it's not destroyed, its not gone, but it no longer has power over either party. It's still around for learning, but it can no longer dictate to the person what to do, or what needs to be done, nor can a person come under the punishments listed in that contract. The person is no longer bound by it because it's been completed. This isn't anything sneaky, it is an example of the first covenant in the scriptures.
the circumcision command is still in effect today, except it's not the circumcision by the law that is important, but circumcision of the heart. The circumcision a person needs cannot be fulfilled by human hands, it is something that only God can perform in the heart spiritually. It is done in the Spirit rather than with human hands. The same goes for the sabbath, the sabbath or rest you have for today is not something that can be accomplished by human hands, but is entered into.....
It was a shadow to point to the time when you could finally rest from your work because Christ makes you whole. Everything in the law was a shadow of something greater fulfilled in Jesus Christ. He has entered me into the sabbath because he has brought me into the resting place of God, the most holy Place, because he has made me complete in him. Nothing i can do can complete me, so now i rest from my works as God rested from his because Jesus made me whole.
spiritually through Jesus. You guys look at the letter, thinking the sabbath can be fulfilled by simply choosing not to work, spending time with family, and worshiping God on the seventh day, as the letter speaks of, like others do with circumcision, thinking it can be fulfilled simply by cutting the foreskin. Neither of these can be accomplished in the flesh. People look at the letter to dictate how these should be fulfilled, and completely miss that it is fulfilled in the spirit, not flesh
@RemixtLatino Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day [is] the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work [therein]: it [is] the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. Just like the other feast days, the sabbath is a holy convocation. If the phrase in colossians was never used anywhere else, and never shown to mean seventh day sabbath elsewhere, then I would consider that you were possibly right, but it is shown to mean seventh day sabbath before.
I would suggest watching my videos entitled "Understanding Colossians 2" You are taking the easy way out by trying to say these verses don't mean the seventh day sabbath, when the phrase itself is an old testament phrase used numerous times. And each time its used in the old testament, it meant seventh day sabbath.
@RemixtLatino Oh, I agree, there are other days in which people were to rest on, which were considered to be a sabbath of rest. However, the phrase in Colossians 2 is undoubtedly speaking of weekly, monthly and yearly celebrations. the weekly sabbath, the monthly celebrations, and yearly celebrations. The yearly celebrations were considered to be the things that happened once a year, the monthly, once a month, and the sabbath was weekly.
@danpants24 If we want to find out what Adultery is where do we go to read about it? The ten just says "thou shalt not commit adultery", it doesn't explain it, or even go into detail about it. The sabbath command even says, Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy, work for six but rest on the seventh. Where do we go to find out what they consider to be work? The book of the law explains the ten, you really can't separate the law from the ten. The bible calls the book the law of God.
@FireFly1499 It's nice to have biblical discussions with people who believe differently because it helps a person become more familiar with the bible as they discuss not only their views, but the views of others.
Hebrews 4:1-9 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
The apostolic writings MUST be read and interpretted through the lense of the Tanak (old testament). You can't take a verse like Col2:16 (which means just the opposite of what Tim Conway says) and make a whole new theology out of it. You have to read the begining of the book first and interpret the end from the begining.
I can't remember when an apostle chosen by God can override the written commandments of GOD Himself. With all due respect brother, Paul's letters to the gentiles were controversial in most part and even Paul confirmed it how controversial his writings were. Secondly, the same Paul most people like to easily quote kept the Sabbath! Yes, read that again. Let us not be guided by imperfect writings of men who acknowledged that they were in need of admonishments from God. Let us be ruled by the eternal word of God which clearly states in Exodus 20:8 "REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY". Just for the sake of clarity, the Sabbath day is the seventh day of the week-Saturday. God bless you.
live in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us. 1 John 3:21-24 (the words in brackets are mine, given for emphasis purposes only)
Generally I wouldnt trust someone who called themselves honest but the honesty just rings throughout this channel. Although I dont necessarily agree with all of it, it provides an interesting perspective.
If we keep the sabbath and the other nine commandment but don't have love, give love, show love & live by Love, It means nothing. Love covers the law. And what is greater, to rest one day and keep it holy or to live holy and rightious everyday to the maximum? If one chooses to keep the sabbath, Keep it for enhancement of our faith & not to be in bondage to the law. Amen to that!
@danpants24 I completely agree, God is consistent, and we've already been told that we're all the same. We're all alike, we're all sinners. We're all condemned the same way as we are breakers of the same law and come under the curse; and likewise, those who are saved are saved the same way Through the blood of Christ which cleanseth us from all sin!
These people before knew that what they did was wrong, but they chose not to listen, and to try and convince themselves otherwise, despite what they knew in their heart.
@FireFly1499 Have you ever wondered how a person who isn't circumcised appears as one who has been circumcised in the eyes of the Lord? And how one who doesn't keep the seventh day sabbath appears as one who keeps the sabbath of the Lord? Remember there were those who broke the sabbath yet appeared guiltless in the eyes of God. Something worth thinking about I think
@FireFly1499 Did you know that the phrase is used around a total of 8 times in the bible? And when I reviewed the other 6-7 times it is mentioned in the scriptures, I learned that it meant the seventh day sabbath, considering it was related to the showbread that was performed every seventh day. That is one of the things that clinched it for me since the bible is not up for private interpretation, it often reveals itself what things mean.
2 Peter 3:15,16 "our beloved brother Paul...as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things in which are some things hard to understand which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction as they do also the rest of the scripture."
But Pastor Tim is right, no one, wether sabbath-keepers or not, should pass judgement on the others, ever. It is my opinion that those who do not keep the Sabbath do so in ignorance, following the tradition of the church rather than scripture, but they LOVE and have FAITH in the Lord with all their hearts, and thats what gonna save them, not their adherance to the law.
Tim if you studied Hebrews Ch 1 to 4 . God doesnt want us to harden our hearts and become ignorant .ch 4v6, who was the Sabbath being preached to. It sounds to me ,it was being preached to the Gentiles. Saying, Today if you here my voice .Do not harden your hearts. You preach very well on not being decieved. I believe you need to go back to the Word and check it out. PLEASE
@Myhopeisinhim We learn that one is still seen as having kept the law by the Spirit, even though they haven't kept it by the letter. It's a bit of a deep topic, but a rather interesting one.
By warning against the right of the false teachers to "pass judgment" on how to observe festivals, Paul is challenging not the validity of the festivals as such but the authority of the false teachers to legislate on the manner of their observance. The obvious implication then is that Paul in this text is expressing not a condemnation but an approbation of the mentioned practices, which include Sabbathkeeping.
They focus so hard on keeping the law, and thinking that doing so shows love, they miss showing people many other ways that love can be presented, shown. Things they can do that will touch the heart of those around them. To be honest, just because someone doesn't steal from me, murder me, covet my possessions, commit adultery with my husband, that still doesn't mean they love me. Those may be some examples of what we might not do IF we love, but not doing them doesn't mean you love that person
I used to believe it was necessary to keep the Sabbath.But I have sense renounced that belief.The Bible says we have freedom.If we want to esteem one day above another and observe it, we are free to do so.Also if we refrain and esteem everyday alike we are free to do that as well.(Romans 14:5).But ultimately our rest is not in a day but in Christ for in full the law is fulfilled.The law was just a schoolmaster that lead us to Christ.There still remains a rest for the people of God.
Yes we are no longer commanded to keep the Sabbath and it's too bad God didn't have foreknowledge to know this would happen when He commanded that his Seventh-Day Sabbath would be a Perpetual Covenant to be kept throughout all generations forever till the end of time in Exodus 31:16-17. Now we are only required to keep the commandments of Jesus not God. It's a good thing that Jesus is not God otherwise we would have to keep the Commandments given by God at Mount Sinai.
@@cameronstolhand7149 none of the law of Moses was given to the Gentiles. We walk according to the law of Christ, through the Spirit of God. Christ fulfills all the law, including the sabbath .
@@RoyalDiadem91 That is hilarious how you say none of the law of Moses was given to the Gentiles but then you guys turn around and say the New Covenant was given to the Gentiles lol. “The days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah" (Jeremiah 31:31). If you read your Bible you would know that the New Covenant was only given to the people of Israel just as the old Covenant was so your *argument* is *completely* *fallacious* . Romans 11 teaches that the Gentile Christians have been grafted into Israel so you either are a Israelite for the old Covenant and the New Covenant or you are not for either. You can't have one and not the other lol. If you actually read your Bible you would know that what you are calling "the law of Moses" is actually commands from God. You would know this if you took the time to read Exodus 20. You have denied Jesus as God by implying that it was not him who Commander the children of Israel to keep the Sabbath in Exodus 20 . Now that I have *destroyed* your *fallacious* *arguments* here's the part where you come up with new ones instead of believing God's word which says that his Sabbath is to be kept throughout all generations forever Exodus 31:16-17.
@@cameronstolhand7149 i don’t claim the new covenant of the new heart is for the Gentiles , that is a promise to Israel for the millennial kingdom. Also, the law of Moses refers to all 613 commands , there is no distinction between the 10 commandments and other laws. Paul makes it clear we are not under obligation to observe laws pertaining to clothing, eating, circumcision, which all are part of the same law. As scripture says if you fail in 1 aspect of the law, you fail in all. It’s either all supposed to kept or none at all , therefore Paul making it clear by releasing us from those particular laws we are released from it all . Lastly , the word of God is indeed eternal . Go learn what it means that Christ is the fulfillment of the law and the sabbath rest of God. It’s not about a day just like it was never about physical circumcision
@@RoyalDiadem91 You *twist* the words of Paul to make him *contradict* the words of God. Peter warned us about " *ignorant* and *unstable* " people such as yourself who *distort* Paul's writings as they do other scriptures, to their own *demise* in 2 Peter 3:16. Your *law* is to follow your own heart and do as thou wilt which is a doctrine of Aleister Crowley as for me I will continue to follow God's *law* because I love Him.
Thank you brother. This teaching is Absolutely correct. The word of God is truth. Isaiah wrote of the days when the Law shall be written on our hearts. Col 2:16 spells it. The Holy Spirit guides us into all truth. People tend to forget that the Lord built His Church. He did things forbidden on the Sabbath and declared "The Sabbath is meant for man and not man for the Sabbath" .For those who still keep the Sabbath, just remember to keep it to the last tiny bit or its death. Thank you Jesus.
I think, keeping the two commandments of Jesus is better than keeping the Sabbath. Keeping Sabbath but not love thy neighbour is as bad as not keeping the Sabbath. Jesus said he did not come to do away with the Sabbath but he wanted his followers to observe all other days like Sabbath too....they must live holy throughout the 7 days of the week and not just Sabbath only.
still have food back at your house. You don't really need what you wanted to buy anyway. Maybe even allow them to come into your house and clean up? offer them a clean set of clothing? Dress their wounds, etc. This is the kind of love Jesus was talking about. Self-sacrificing, thinking more of others than of yourself. Putting others before yourself, as Jesus did for you when he died on the cross. The love he asks of you is greater than anything you can find in the ten
@Myhopeisinhim Hope, its clear. I have shown you verses that tell you straight forward what Col 2 is talking about. There is no need to be confused. If you are, it is because you are determined to see things as you have been previously taught before. I'm trying to keep it simple. If I am failing to do that anywhere, let me know, but I thought I could be no clearer. Please reconsider the verses I previously shared, and if need be, I most def can provide you w/ more, all in harmony. Worthy 2 note
Too bad that God didn't have the foreknowledge to know that Jesus would change the day of the Sabbath when he commanded all his children to keep His Seventh-Day Sabbath as a Perpetual Covenant throughout all generations forever till the end of time in Exodus 31:16-17 When Paul said don't let anyone judge you I'm pretty sure he was talking about men not God LOL.
@Myhopeisinhim 2Ch 2:4 "sweet incense", "shewbread", burnt offerings", "sabbaths", "new moons", "solemn feasts" Not the 7th day Sabbath there. If you refer, or care at all for the verses I took time to share here, you'll know this has nothing to do w/ the 4th commandment.
@kell4809 - Sabbath can be found 115 times all throughout the entire Bible! I'll keep it! The rest can do what they wish, but I truly feel this is why He will say, "Go away from Me, you never knew me at all!"
"Wherefore my sentence is that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood. For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day" (Acts 15:1921). As you can see, the Sabbath day is specifically named in the Apostalic Decree. ALL 10 Commandments were a foregone conclusion.
Revelation 14; 12' Here is the patience of the saints,those who follow G-ds commands and the faith of Jesus. Matthew 22; 14 Many are called few are chosen.
@Myhopeisinhim I was kinda hoping for something along the lines of "You know, I may not like this, but after a line upon line revealing of Scripture, I see that Col 2:16,17 is not at all talking about the 4th of the 10 commandments. I may not like it, but I'm willing to consider that it is possible that keeping the Sabbath is still a commandment and as one, is to be kept by all God's people".
The fact that no one is shown as having kept the sabbath, nor do we see any command of the sabbath given in the book of Genesis, and we see the bible tell us that it was made known to Moses, shows us that it wasn't given before. The bible tells us that the law was given to the unrighteous man because of the hardness of their heart, and their unrighteousness. We also see this being the case regarding the sabbath to.......
@RemixtLatino And the same with what I've mentioned:) In time the truth will be made known. I just pray people will wake up before it's too late. You don't think the sabbath is a shadow, and you think you've shown me that it isn't, and I believe the sabbath is a shadow and have given you the reasons for why I believe the way I do. Time will tell. I don't think we have much longer to wait, eh. His return is very close.
You enter into his true rest the moment you believe and Christ makes you complete. He isn't in the habit of making you incomplete again. You are brought into his resting place, into the very resting place of God. The very throne room of God because Christ prepared the way! Each day you live, is today! You never live in yesterday, you never live in tomorrow..Today is the day of salvation, today is the day of rest. Will you enter in?
Blessed are those who teach the commandments of G-od, for they shall be called great in heaven, and those who do not shall be called least in heaven. Many are called ,few are chosen
@free0fight The Holy Spirit convicts me, sin isn't just of the ten commandments, it goes deeper. Even a good deed can become a sin when done for the wrong reasons. Even something that isn't technically a sin can become a sin when not done in faith.
by the word of God in Heaven we are Going to Worship God and honor His precious Sabbath Isaiah 66:22,23 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me ,saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.23 "And it shall come to pass, that form one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the lord."
I am capable of admitting when I might not be right, such as with the timing of the rapture. For 18 years I believed it would be a pre-trib rapture, before the anti-christ was revealed, now I admit that it may not happen that way due to various verses I have come across. So I'm not just choosing not to accept your doctrines because I don't want to, or because i'm simply being stubborn, I will admit when I might be wrong, but if I don't believe I am, then I will not accept what i do not believe
I don't mean any offense by that, so I apologize if anyone is offended, but when reading these verses, and then realizing that not once was Moses inspired to speak of anyone keeping the sabbath in the book of Genesis, nor was he inspired to even use the word sabbath once in the book of Genesis, we must conclude that these verses mean exactly what they say. The ten commandment covenant was not made with the people until Moses.
Intercessor. Who will intercede when Jesus declares "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still." | Revelation 22:11 There are various verses that reveal something you are not considering at all.
You're right. Christians are having to face this sad fact that Sunday keeping is a Roman change to the 10 Commandments and the New Covenent of Jesus Christ sealed at the moment of his death. But they don;t want to obey God because man is lawless. This will be a test and separate God's people I'm sad to say.
@rkg62976 I never said church or synagogues didn't exist, I'm asking you where in the ten commandments, or in the sabbath command is there a command to gather at a church or synagogue on saturday making it part of the "4th commandment"?
@Myhopeisinhim Big difference is you won't find any of the other sabbaths blessed or practiced until after sin. Yet the 7th day Sabbath and both blessed and sanctified before sin. I guess that means nothing to you though.
The fact that the Sabbath is here mentioned not polemically, but incidentally as a factor unfavorable to a flight of Christians from Jerusalem, implies on the one hand that Christ did not foresee its substitution with another day of worship, and on the other hand that, as stated by A. W. Argyle, "the Sabbath was still observed by Jewish Christians when Matthew wrote." Bachiochi
The speaker mentions "Jewish Sabbath". What??? The day after Adam was created, the Sabbath was created: Exodus 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. ☝️ In Genesis, which chronicled creation, Genesis 2:2-3 (KJV) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. ☝️ By his example, He rested. And so should we. Leviticus 23:3 (KJV) Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. Is it not odd to hear that a commandment is not something "that we are bound to"? God commanded and we are not bound to do it? Are we now above Him? Look what happened to Cain when God instituted how sacrifice should be done. Will God require ANY LESS AS TO HOW TO WORSHIP HIM?
No synopsis, It's a shame that we as Christians are supposed to LOOK and TRUST ONLY onto Jesus but yet some of us simply LOOK at trying to be as traditional and anti-catholic as possible TRUSTING that those things will make us as justifiable as possible to God.
I believe that saturday is the true Sabath. I do my best to honor it as Holy unto the Lord. The Lord showed me something once, the devil says Rest and then Work. Sunday being the first day of the week, Saturday being the last. The Lord says Work then Rest. The Lord spoke of the lazy slave, my master tarries, but the master came at a time when he didn't expect and it was not good for him. I'm not saying that "works" get's us to heaven, but we need to do it God's way.
Apostle Paul doesn't say to the Gentiles "keep the Shabbat" but he doesn't say "keep the sunday". I don't judge anyboby, it's all days sabbat in Christ but why it's so difficult to keep the day that God choosed. Why it's so difficult to keep festivals of God ? Why the church want to keep a catholic day "the sunday", look the history. Jews and Grecs keeped Shabbat day (Acts 18:4) God bless you
@rkg62976 Does the ten commandments, or the old law, command people to gather together in a church or synagogue on the seventh day of the week to have a service?
Matthew 11:28 "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Cleary we find our rest in Christ not in the keeping of the Law. This is a relationship of peace - moment by moment resting in Christ. The Law and all it's statutes point to Christ as being the fulfillment of the Law. It is a much Higher standard than any law that can be kept by a human, it is a relationship of trust, intimate communion with Christ, resulting in loving obedience whatever it may be.Selah
There are greater ways to show love, such as, by sacrificing your needs and wants so that those around you may be fulfilled. You are going to the corner store, and you want to buy yourself a few snacks, and you see someone sitting on the curb, dressed in rags, filthy to the core with a little sign saying Hungry. What are you going to do? Go buy them a little something, and then spend the rest on yourself? Buy them nothing and everything for yourself? spend what you have on them, knowing you....
@lillibeth13 Oh there is no doubt that it was their custom:) but, it soon became the custom of the disciples to gather every day. They gathered on a daily basis to preach and remember what the Lord has done. Focus was changed from a day, unto the Lord Jesus, and through to the breaking of bread in remembrance of what the Lord has done.
@danpants24 One of the mistakes people make is to assume that sinning is sole transgression of the law: Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: FOR WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN. The bible tells us that sin existed before the law was given, and the above verse explains exactly how that was possible.
The book of the law which contained ordinances was placed in the side of the ark. The Ten commandments were placed inside the ark under the mercy seat between the two cherubims. Exo 25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.
Anyone can read their Bible and it should be very clear! Keep the Sabbath! Sabbath is found 115 times in total throughout the Bible! A lot of folks do still follow the Passover, as well as the rest of the Holy Sabbaths! This is a total load of bull! I cannot even continue to listen to this rant of such false information! Sabbath is Saturday, the last day of the week, even on your Gregorian calendar! SUNday is Sunday! Not judging this guy or anyone else, I pray you get the truth from God!
People usually assert that Paul kept the Sabbath. Show a passage of scripture that says so... What Paul did was go into the synagogue on the Sabbath to teach and convert them to Jesus. It says nothing about him keeping the Sabbath. Someone going into a synagogue on the Sabbath doesnt mean they keep the Sabbath. He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath...guess why??... Because that was the day they had their service! And that is when he would get to preach to them..... (continued)
I am not surprised to see that my saying that Jesus is a Jew, that anti-Semitism is racism, & the truth about Jeremiah 31, has garnered two negative ratings. Whoever found it offensive, know this - NEVER again. And to those calling names like a child: Matthew 5:22
Exd 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws? Exd 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. Another reason he gave the sabbath was: Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and [that] the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a......
Hey Trina:) In Hebrews 4 it does mention that there remaineth a sabbath-keeping for Gods people, but what day does it indicate in the chapter. Heb 4:7-8 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, TO DAY, after so long a time; as it is said, TO DAY if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. The day that Christ makes us complete is the day we enter into rest..let that day be today:)
19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 5:17,18,19)
Acts 15:5-10 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who had believed stood up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to observe the Law of Moses." Peter stood up and said to them, "He(God) made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?" (shortened vers.) We don't have to keep the law of Moses :)
Gentiles would only be judged if they tried to keep the Sabbath, especially if they were not circumcised. Jews and Judaizers hated Gentiles trying to observe their practices without officially becoming Jewish. I think a more careful reading of Colosssians is needed in the response here.
As Jesus said: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
satisfied the wrath of God and now you stand complete in him. He did what you could not do, fulfill the law. Now through faith that law is fulfilled in us, jesus imputes his righteousness to you so you can stand in the eyes of God. Jesus fulfilled the law in the eyes of God, whereas every other man has failed, he is our only hope. He is the reason we can come before our Father.
@RemixtLatino I'd only say that if that is what I came to believe, but I'm afraid I do not see it your way, just as you do not see it the way I've attempted to show you. I've done an indepth study of that verse from every angle, from every possibility, and I cannot conclude that it means any other than all the feast days, including the seventh day spoken of in chapters like Leviticus 23 and Numbers 28. I do not see the separation of law that you believe there is, nor do I see....
@OWretchedManThatIam I think people forget that the law is the mirror, not the means of being seen as obedient, not the means of washing away the stain. It's not the soap. By the works of the law shall no flesh be justified, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. It shows your sin, it doesn't deal with your sin. It shows us how much short we come of the glory of God and why we need Jesus to cover us with his righteousness, which comes by way of faith, not works.
There really is no way around the fact that God didn't write these two commandments, but that doesn't detour from the fact that God is still the source of them, just as he is the source for the rest of the book. Whether Moses wrote them or not, they were still the greatest of all commandments. I see more emphasis put on the sabbath in certain groups than I do of the greatest commandments. I constantly see the second greatest command being broken constantly with those who believe in the sabbath
One thing for certain, Paul said this: Galatians 4:10-11 (KJV) 10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. 11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain. Galatians 5:1 (KJV) 1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
@JacobGboy: Have you heard of the Peshitta? Some believe it to have been written in Aramaic, the language Yeshua actually spoke in. Peshitta Hebrews 4:9 says, "It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath." What if this is the proper interpretation? Then what will you do?
You're going to need more then a little one sentence comment to prove that. If you believe God's word is wrong, which is what Tim has used, then defend your point with scripture.
To make this even more clearer to our readers, I'm going to clarify a little. The bible says:
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we obey his COMMANDS and do what pleases him.
AND THIS IS HIS COMMAND: to believe in the name of his son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as HE HAS COMMANDED US.
Those who obey HIS COMMANDS (which are: to love others, and believe on the name of his son, Jesus Christ)......
In Isaiah 66, it also mentions the new moons-do you keep the new moon celebrations?
Read Isaiah 66 again-it says they will meet "FROM ONE SABBATH TO ANOTHER"-that means everyday will be hallowed before the Lord, not just the sabbath. Otherwise be consistent in youe interpretaion and begin keeping the new moons, because it says "from one new moon to another", as well.
You see, if they had truly received rest on the seventh day, would God really have spoken of another day, calling that day today?
When we come to Christ, he makes us complete in him. He makes us whole, he justifies us, pardons us. We're complete in him...and when Christ does that he raises you up to sit with him in heavenly places, where you can truly rest everyday.
Ellen white taught that the sabbath was the greatest command, but that is not what Jesus said, nor did Jesus quote two of the ten when asked what the greatest commandments were in the law.
It's also interesting to note that when asked about "the law", he never asked which one for the sake of the listeners. There was only one, and that was the book. The book of the law, also called the book of the law of God.
I detest sin, I may fall because of my sinful nature, but I desire to follow the law of Christ. I don't desire a sinful life. My life was so radically changed when he came into my life, I couldn't even begin to contemplate returning to how things used to be.
So no, I don't choose to say that I'm not under the law anymore so I can sin. How can I return to that life of sin after the Lord set me free? You and others have grossly misunderstood us and what we believe.
Paul also said:
Romans 14:5-6 (KJV)
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
Thats pretty plain...
The contract is still there to be viewed anytime, it's not destroyed, its not gone, but it no longer has power over either party. It's still around for learning, but it can no longer dictate to the person what to do, or what needs to be done, nor can a person come under the punishments listed in that contract. The person is no longer bound by it because it's been completed.
This isn't anything sneaky, it is an example of the first covenant in the scriptures.
the circumcision command is still in effect today, except it's not the circumcision by the law that is important, but circumcision of the heart.
The circumcision a person needs cannot be fulfilled by human hands, it is something that only God can perform in the heart spiritually. It is done in the Spirit rather than with human hands.
The same goes for the sabbath, the sabbath or rest you have for today is not something that can be accomplished by human hands, but is entered into.....
It was a shadow to point to the time when you could finally rest from your work because Christ makes you whole. Everything in the law was a shadow of something greater fulfilled in Jesus Christ. He has entered me into the sabbath because he has brought me into the resting place of God, the most holy Place, because he has made me complete in him.
Nothing i can do can complete me, so now i rest from my works as God rested from his because Jesus made me whole.
spiritually through Jesus.
You guys look at the letter, thinking the sabbath can be fulfilled by simply choosing not to work, spending time with family, and worshiping God on the seventh day, as the letter speaks of, like others do with circumcision, thinking it can be fulfilled simply by cutting the foreskin.
Neither of these can be accomplished in the flesh. People look at the letter to dictate how these should be fulfilled, and completely miss that it is fulfilled in the spirit, not flesh
thats exactly what Tim hit on in another Sabbath video that we are going to put up, that was a good thing to point out, God bless!
@RemixtLatino
Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day [is] the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work [therein]: it [is] the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Just like the other feast days, the sabbath is a holy convocation. If the phrase in colossians was never used anywhere else, and never shown to mean seventh day sabbath elsewhere, then I would consider that you were possibly right, but it is shown to mean seventh day sabbath before.
I would suggest watching my videos entitled
"Understanding Colossians 2"
You are taking the easy way out by trying to say these verses don't mean the seventh day sabbath, when the phrase itself is an old testament phrase used numerous times.
And each time its used in the old testament, it meant seventh day sabbath.
@RemixtLatino
Oh, I agree, there are other days in which people were to rest on, which were considered to be a sabbath of rest. However, the phrase in Colossians 2 is undoubtedly speaking of weekly, monthly and yearly celebrations. the weekly sabbath, the monthly celebrations, and yearly celebrations. The yearly celebrations were considered to be the things that happened once a year, the monthly, once a month, and the sabbath was weekly.
@danpants24
If we want to find out what Adultery is where do we go to read about it? The ten just says "thou shalt not commit adultery", it doesn't explain it, or even go into detail about it. The sabbath command even says, Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy, work for six but rest on the seventh. Where do we go to find out what they consider to be work?
The book of the law explains the ten, you really can't separate the law from the ten. The bible calls the book the law of God.
I think the mix up is in the "reason" people do/don't keep the Sabbath. I do. But to please God, not for salvation.
that is why the Sabbath is called the neglected commandment .People will truly understand it s value in the latter days.
@FireFly1499
It's nice to have biblical discussions with people who believe differently because it helps a person become more familiar with the bible as they discuss not only their views, but the views of others.
Hebrews 4:1-9 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
The apostolic writings MUST be read and interpretted through the lense of the Tanak (old testament). You can't take a verse like Col2:16 (which means just the opposite of what Tim Conway says) and make a whole new theology out of it. You have to read the begining of the book first and interpret the end from the begining.
I can't remember when an apostle chosen by God can override the written commandments of GOD Himself. With all due respect brother, Paul's letters to the gentiles were controversial in most part and even Paul confirmed it how controversial his writings were. Secondly, the same Paul most people like to easily quote kept the Sabbath! Yes, read that again. Let us not be guided by imperfect writings of men who acknowledged that they were in need of admonishments from God. Let us be ruled by the eternal word of God which clearly states in Exodus 20:8 "REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY". Just for the sake of clarity, the Sabbath day is the seventh day of the week-Saturday. God bless you.
live in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.
1 John 3:21-24 (the words in brackets are mine, given for emphasis purposes only)
Generally I wouldnt trust someone who called themselves honest but the honesty just rings throughout this channel.
Although I dont necessarily agree with all of it, it provides an interesting perspective.
If we keep the sabbath and the other nine commandment but don't have love, give love, show love & live by Love, It means nothing. Love covers the law. And what is greater, to rest one day and keep it holy or to live holy and rightious everyday to the maximum? If one chooses to keep the sabbath, Keep it for enhancement of our faith & not to be in bondage to the law. Amen to that!
@danpants24
I completely agree, God is consistent, and we've already been told that we're all the same. We're all alike, we're all sinners. We're all condemned the same way as we are breakers of the same law and come under the curse; and likewise, those who are saved are saved the same way
Through the blood of Christ which cleanseth us from all sin!
These people before knew that what they did was wrong, but they chose not to listen, and to try and convince themselves otherwise, despite what they knew in their heart.
@FireFly1499
Have you ever wondered how a person who isn't circumcised appears as one who has been circumcised in the eyes of the Lord? And how one who doesn't keep the seventh day sabbath appears as one who keeps the sabbath of the Lord?
Remember there were those who broke the sabbath yet appeared guiltless in the eyes of God. Something worth thinking about I think
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
Romans 3:20
@FireFly1499
Did you know that the phrase is used around a total of 8 times in the bible? And when I reviewed the other 6-7 times it is mentioned in the scriptures, I learned that it meant the seventh day sabbath, considering it was related to the showbread that was performed every seventh day.
That is one of the things that clinched it for me since the bible is not up for private interpretation, it often reveals itself what things mean.
2 Peter 3:15,16 "our beloved brother Paul...as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things in which are some things hard to understand which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction as they do also the rest of the scripture."
But Pastor Tim is right, no one, wether sabbath-keepers or not, should pass judgement on the others, ever. It is my opinion that those who do not keep the Sabbath do so in ignorance, following the tradition of the church rather than scripture, but they LOVE and have FAITH in the Lord with all their hearts, and thats what gonna save them, not their adherance to the law.
Tim if you studied Hebrews Ch 1 to 4 . God doesnt want us to harden our hearts and become ignorant .ch 4v6, who was the Sabbath being preached to. It sounds to me ,it was being preached to the Gentiles. Saying, Today if you here my voice .Do not harden your hearts. You preach very well on not being decieved. I believe you need to go back to the Word and check it out. PLEASE
@OWretchedManThatIam
Did you know that sin goes deeper than the ten commandments?
@Myhopeisinhim
We learn that one is still seen as having kept the law by the Spirit, even though they haven't kept it by the letter. It's a bit of a deep topic, but a rather interesting one.
By warning against the right of the false teachers to "pass judgment" on how to observe festivals, Paul is challenging not the validity of the festivals as such but the authority of the false teachers to legislate on the manner of their observance. The obvious implication then is that Paul in this text is expressing not a condemnation but an approbation of the mentioned practices, which include Sabbathkeeping.
They focus so hard on keeping the law, and thinking that doing so shows love, they miss showing people many other ways that love can be presented, shown. Things they can do that will touch the heart of those around them.
To be honest, just because someone doesn't steal from me, murder me, covet my possessions, commit adultery with my husband, that still doesn't mean they love me. Those may be some examples of what we might not do IF we love, but not doing them doesn't mean you love that person
I used to believe it was necessary to keep the Sabbath.But I have sense renounced that belief.The Bible says we have freedom.If we want to esteem one day above another and observe it, we are free to do so.Also if we refrain and esteem everyday alike we are free to do that as well.(Romans 14:5).But ultimately our rest is not in a day but in Christ for in full the law is fulfilled.The law was just a schoolmaster that lead us to Christ.There still remains a rest for the people of God.
Yes we are no longer commanded to keep the Sabbath and it's too bad God didn't have foreknowledge to know this would happen when He commanded that his Seventh-Day Sabbath would be a Perpetual Covenant to be kept throughout all generations forever till the end of time in Exodus 31:16-17. Now we are only required to keep the commandments of Jesus not God. It's a good thing that Jesus is not God otherwise we would have to keep the Commandments given by God at Mount Sinai.
@@cameronstolhand7149 none of the law of Moses was given to the Gentiles. We walk according to the law of Christ, through the Spirit of God. Christ fulfills all the law, including the sabbath .
@@RoyalDiadem91 That is hilarious how you say none of the law of Moses was given to the Gentiles but then you guys turn around and say the New Covenant was given to the Gentiles lol. “The days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah" (Jeremiah 31:31). If you read your Bible you would know that the New Covenant was only given to the people of Israel just as the old Covenant was so your *argument* is *completely* *fallacious* . Romans 11 teaches that the Gentile Christians have been grafted into Israel so you either are a Israelite for the old Covenant and the New Covenant or you are not for either. You can't have one and not the other lol. If you actually read your Bible you would know that what you are calling "the law of Moses" is actually commands from God. You would know this if you took the time to read Exodus 20. You have denied Jesus as God by implying that it was not him who Commander the children of Israel to keep the Sabbath in Exodus 20 .
Now that I have *destroyed* your *fallacious* *arguments* here's the part where you come up with new ones instead of believing God's word which says that his Sabbath is to be kept throughout all generations forever Exodus 31:16-17.
@@cameronstolhand7149 i don’t claim the new covenant of the new heart is for the Gentiles , that is a promise to Israel for the millennial kingdom.
Also, the law of Moses refers to all 613 commands , there is no distinction between the 10 commandments and other laws. Paul makes it clear we are not under obligation to observe laws pertaining to clothing, eating, circumcision, which all are part of the same law. As scripture says if you fail in 1 aspect of the law, you fail in all. It’s either all supposed to kept or none at all , therefore Paul making it clear by releasing us from those particular laws we are released from it all .
Lastly , the word of God is indeed eternal . Go learn what it means that Christ is the fulfillment of the law and the sabbath rest of God. It’s not about a day just like it was never about physical circumcision
@@RoyalDiadem91 You *twist* the words of Paul to make him *contradict* the words of God. Peter warned us about " *ignorant* and *unstable* " people such as yourself who *distort* Paul's writings as they do other scriptures, to their own *demise* in 2 Peter 3:16.
Your *law* is to follow your own heart and do as thou wilt which is a doctrine of Aleister Crowley as for me I will continue to follow God's *law* because I love Him.
Absolutely, me and you are definately walking on the same road on this one.
Thank you brother. This teaching is Absolutely correct. The word of God is truth. Isaiah wrote of the days when the Law shall be written on our hearts. Col 2:16 spells it. The Holy Spirit guides us into all truth. People tend to forget that the Lord built His Church. He did things forbidden on the Sabbath and declared "The Sabbath is meant for man and not man for the Sabbath" .For those who still keep the Sabbath, just remember to keep it to the last tiny bit or its death. Thank you Jesus.
I think, keeping the two commandments of Jesus is better than keeping the Sabbath. Keeping Sabbath but not love thy neighbour is as bad as not keeping the Sabbath. Jesus said he did not come to do away with the Sabbath but he wanted his followers to observe all other days like Sabbath too....they must live holy throughout the 7 days of the week and not just Sabbath only.
still have food back at your house. You don't really need what you wanted to buy anyway.
Maybe even allow them to come into your house and clean up? offer them a clean set of clothing? Dress their wounds, etc. This is the kind of love Jesus was talking about. Self-sacrificing, thinking more of others than of yourself. Putting others before yourself, as Jesus did for you when he died on the cross.
The love he asks of you is greater than anything you can find in the ten
@Myhopeisinhim Hope, its clear. I have shown you verses that tell you straight forward what Col 2 is talking about. There is no need to be confused. If you are, it is because you are determined to see things as you have been previously taught before. I'm trying to keep it simple. If I am failing to do that anywhere, let me know, but I thought I could be no clearer. Please reconsider the verses I previously shared, and if need be, I most def can provide you w/ more, all in harmony. Worthy 2 note
Too bad that God didn't have the foreknowledge to know that Jesus would change the day of the Sabbath when he commanded all his children to keep His Seventh-Day Sabbath as a Perpetual Covenant throughout all generations forever till the end of time in Exodus 31:16-17
When Paul said don't let anyone judge you I'm pretty sure he was talking about men not God LOL.
@Myhopeisinhim 2Ch 2:4 "sweet incense", "shewbread", burnt offerings", "sabbaths", "new moons", "solemn feasts"
Not the 7th day Sabbath there. If you refer, or care at all for the verses I took time to share here, you'll know this has nothing to do w/ the 4th commandment.
@TheTwiddle123
amen to that. When you trust in Jesus, he makes you complete, and in completeness there is rest.
@kell4809 - Sabbath can be found 115 times all throughout the entire Bible! I'll keep it! The rest can do what they wish, but I truly feel this is why He will say, "Go away from Me, you never knew me at all!"
"Wherefore my sentence is that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and [from] fornication, and [from] things strangled, and [from] blood. For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day" (Acts 15:1921). As you can see, the Sabbath day is specifically named in the Apostalic Decree. ALL 10 Commandments were a foregone conclusion.
Revelation 14; 12'
Here is the patience of the saints,those who follow G-ds commands and the faith of Jesus.
Matthew 22; 14
Many are called few are chosen.
@Myhopeisinhim I was kinda hoping for something along the lines of
"You know, I may not like this, but after a line upon line revealing of Scripture, I see that Col 2:16,17 is not at all talking about the 4th of the 10 commandments. I may not like it, but I'm willing to consider that it is possible that keeping the Sabbath is still a commandment and as one, is to be kept by all God's people".
@rkg62976
Does the fourth commandment contain a command to gather at a church or synagogue on the seventh day, sabbath day?
The fact that no one is shown as having kept the sabbath, nor do we see any command of the sabbath given in the book of Genesis, and we see the bible tell us that it was made known to Moses, shows us that it wasn't given before.
The bible tells us that the law was given to the unrighteous man because of the hardness of their heart, and their unrighteousness. We also see this being the case regarding the sabbath to.......
@RemixtLatino
And the same with what I've mentioned:) In time the truth will be made known. I just pray people will wake up before it's too late. You don't think the sabbath is a shadow, and you think you've shown me that it isn't, and I believe the sabbath is a shadow and have given you the reasons for why I believe the way I do. Time will tell.
I don't think we have much longer to wait, eh. His return is very close.
You enter into his true rest the moment you believe and Christ makes you complete. He isn't in the habit of making you incomplete again.
You are brought into his resting place, into the very resting place of God. The very throne room of God because Christ prepared the way!
Each day you live, is today! You never live in yesterday, you never live in tomorrow..Today is the day of salvation, today is the day of rest. Will you enter in?
Blessed are those who teach the commandments of G-od, for they shall be called great in heaven, and those who do not shall be called least in heaven.
Many are called ,few are chosen
@free0fight
The Holy Spirit convicts me, sin isn't just of the ten commandments, it goes deeper. Even a good deed can become a sin when done for the wrong reasons. Even something that isn't technically a sin can become a sin when not done in faith.
by the word of God in Heaven we are Going to Worship God and honor His precious Sabbath Isaiah 66:22,23 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me ,saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.23 "And it shall come to pass, that form one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the lord."
I am capable of admitting when I might not be right, such as with the timing of the rapture. For 18 years I believed it would be a pre-trib rapture, before the anti-christ was revealed, now I admit that it may not happen that way due to various verses I have come across.
So I'm not just choosing not to accept your doctrines because I don't want to, or because i'm simply being stubborn, I will admit when I might be wrong, but if I don't believe I am, then I will not accept what i do not believe
I don't mean any offense by that, so I apologize if anyone is offended, but when reading these verses, and then realizing that not once was Moses inspired to speak of anyone keeping the sabbath in the book of Genesis, nor was he inspired to even use the word sabbath once in the book of Genesis, we must conclude that these verses mean exactly what they say.
The ten commandment covenant was not made with the people until Moses.
Intercessor.
Who will intercede when Jesus declares "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still." | Revelation 22:11
There are various verses that reveal something you are not considering at all.
You're right. Christians are having to face this sad fact that Sunday keeping is a Roman change to the 10 Commandments and the New Covenent of Jesus Christ sealed at the moment of his death. But they don;t want to obey God because man is lawless. This will be a test and separate God's people I'm sad to say.
The Sabbath for Gentile Christian is mentioned but not directly: Exo 20:8,10-11; Isa 56:3-8; Matt 12:6, 8; John 2:19-21; Mark 16:9
@rkg62976
I never said church or synagogues didn't exist, I'm asking you where in the ten commandments, or in the sabbath command is there a command to gather at a church or synagogue on saturday making it part of the "4th commandment"?
@Myhopeisinhim Big difference is you won't find any of the other sabbaths blessed or practiced until after sin. Yet the 7th day Sabbath and both blessed and sanctified before sin.
I guess that means nothing to you though.
The fact that the Sabbath is here mentioned not polemically, but incidentally as a factor unfavorable to a flight of Christians from Jerusalem, implies on the one hand that Christ did not foresee its substitution with another day of worship, and on the other hand that, as stated by A. W. Argyle, "the Sabbath was still observed by Jewish Christians when Matthew wrote." Bachiochi
The speaker mentions "Jewish Sabbath". What???
The day after Adam was created, the Sabbath was created:
Exodus 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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In Genesis, which chronicled creation,
Genesis 2:2-3 (KJV) And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
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By his example, He rested. And so should we.
Leviticus 23:3 (KJV) Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Is it not odd to hear that a commandment is not something "that we are bound to"? God commanded and we are not bound to do it? Are we now above Him?
Look what happened to Cain when God instituted how sacrifice should be done. Will God require ANY LESS AS TO HOW TO WORSHIP HIM?
@gtrjunky so theres only nine commandments then?
@LuxAuterna Where does it say that no resurrections can be done of the Sabbath?
No synopsis, It's a shame that we as Christians are supposed to LOOK and TRUST ONLY onto Jesus but yet some of us simply LOOK at trying to be as traditional and anti-catholic as possible TRUSTING that those things will make us as justifiable as possible to God.
I believe that saturday is the true Sabath.
I do my best to honor it as Holy unto the Lord.
The Lord showed me something once,
the devil says Rest and then Work.
Sunday being the first day of the week, Saturday being the last.
The Lord says Work then Rest.
The Lord spoke of the lazy slave, my master tarries, but the master came at a time when he didn't expect and it was not good for him.
I'm not saying that "works" get's us to heaven, but we need to do it God's way.
@danpants24
Are the ten commandments written in the book of the law?
Apostle Paul doesn't say to the Gentiles "keep the Shabbat" but he doesn't say "keep the sunday".
I don't judge anyboby, it's all days sabbat in Christ but why it's so difficult to keep the day that God choosed. Why it's so difficult to keep festivals of God ?
Why the church want to keep a catholic day "the sunday", look the history.
Jews and Grecs keeped Shabbat day (Acts 18:4)
God bless you
@webfryes Honest question I must ask you. Did you at all read my reply to you?
@rkg62976
Does the ten commandments, or the old law, command people to gather together in a church or synagogue on the seventh day of the week to have a service?
Matthew 11:28
"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Cleary we find our rest in Christ not in the keeping of the Law. This is a relationship of peace - moment by moment resting in Christ. The Law and all it's statutes point to Christ as being the fulfillment of the Law. It is a much Higher standard than any law that can be kept by a human, it is a relationship of trust, intimate communion with Christ, resulting in loving obedience whatever it may be.Selah
There are greater ways to show love, such as, by sacrificing your needs and wants so that those around you may be fulfilled. You are going to the corner store, and you want to buy yourself a few snacks, and you see someone sitting on the curb, dressed in rags, filthy to the core with a little sign saying Hungry.
What are you going to do? Go buy them a little something, and then spend the rest on yourself? Buy them nothing and everything for yourself? spend what you have on them, knowing you....
@FireFly1499
Have you ever done a biblical search on the phrase that appears in colossians 2:16, and what it means from a biblical standpoint?
@lillibeth13
Oh there is no doubt that it was their custom:) but, it soon became the custom of the disciples to gather every day. They gathered on a daily basis to preach and remember what the Lord has done.
Focus was changed from a day, unto the Lord Jesus, and through to the breaking of bread in remembrance of what the Lord has done.
@danpants24
One of the mistakes people make is to assume that sinning is sole transgression of the law:
Rom 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because [he eateth] not of faith: FOR WHATSOEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN.
The bible tells us that sin existed before the law was given, and the above verse explains exactly how that was possible.
💯 the Sabbath definitely has NOT changed. Romans 14 may need better exegesis here as well.
@danpants24
What do you feel it means when the scriptures say love is the fulfilling of the law?
The book of the law which contained ordinances was placed in the side of the ark. The Ten commandments were placed inside the ark under the mercy seat between the two cherubims.
Exo 25:21 And thou shalt put the mercy seat above upon the ark; and in the ark thou shalt put the testimony that I shall give thee.
Anyone can read their Bible and it should be very clear! Keep the Sabbath! Sabbath is found 115 times in total throughout the Bible! A lot of folks do still follow the Passover, as well as the rest of the Holy Sabbaths! This is a total load of bull! I cannot even continue to listen to this rant of such false information! Sabbath is Saturday, the last day of the week, even on your Gregorian calendar! SUNday is Sunday! Not judging this guy or anyone else, I pray you get the truth from God!
People usually assert that Paul kept the Sabbath.
Show a passage of scripture that says so...
What Paul did was go into the synagogue on the Sabbath to teach and convert them to Jesus. It says nothing about him keeping the Sabbath. Someone going into a synagogue on the Sabbath doesnt mean they keep the Sabbath. He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath...guess why??...
Because that was the day they had their service! And that is when he would get to preach to them..... (continued)
I am not surprised to see that my saying that Jesus is a Jew, that anti-Semitism is racism, & the truth about Jeremiah 31, has garnered two negative ratings.
Whoever found it offensive, know this - NEVER again. And to those calling names like a child: Matthew 5:22
Exd 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exd 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Another reason he gave the sabbath was:
Deu 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and [that] the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a......
This shows me that the separation is man-made, not God made.
Hey Trina:)
In Hebrews 4 it does mention that there remaineth a sabbath-keeping for Gods people, but what day does it indicate in the chapter.
Heb 4:7-8 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, TO DAY, after so long a time; as it is said, TO DAY if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
The day that Christ makes us complete is the day we enter into rest..let that day be today:)
19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Mat 5:17,18,19)
Acts 15:5-10 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who had believed stood up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them and to direct them to observe the Law of Moses."
Peter stood up and said to them, "He(God) made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear?"
(shortened vers.)
We don't have to keep the law of Moses :)
Gentiles would only be judged if they tried to keep the Sabbath, especially if they were not circumcised. Jews and Judaizers hated Gentiles trying to observe their practices without officially becoming Jewish. I think a more careful reading of Colosssians is needed in the response here.
As Jesus said:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
satisfied the wrath of God and now you stand complete in him. He did what you could not do, fulfill the law. Now through faith that law is fulfilled in us, jesus imputes his righteousness to you so you can stand in the eyes of God.
Jesus fulfilled the law in the eyes of God, whereas every other man has failed, he is our only hope. He is the reason we can come before our Father.
@RemixtLatino
I'd only say that if that is what I came to believe, but I'm afraid I do not see it your way, just as you do not see it the way I've attempted to show you.
I've done an indepth study of that verse from every angle, from every possibility, and I cannot conclude that it means any other than all the feast days, including the seventh day spoken of in chapters like Leviticus 23 and Numbers 28. I do not see the separation of law that you believe there is, nor do I see....
@OWretchedManThatIam
I think people forget that the law is the mirror, not the means of being seen as obedient, not the means of washing away the stain. It's not the soap. By the works of the law shall no flesh be justified, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
It shows your sin, it doesn't deal with your sin. It shows us how much short we come of the glory of God and why we need Jesus to cover us with his righteousness, which comes by way of faith, not works.
Leviticus 23:39 (New International Version, ©2010)
39 “‘So beginning with the fifteenth day of the seventh month, after you have gathered the crops of the land, celebrate the festival to the LORD for seven days; the first day is a day of sabbath rest, and the eighth day also is a day of sabbath rest.
Be wise brethren.
There really is no way around the fact that God didn't write these two commandments, but that doesn't detour from the fact that God is still the source of them, just as he is the source for the rest of the book.
Whether Moses wrote them or not, they were still the greatest of all commandments. I see more emphasis put on the sabbath in certain groups than I do of the greatest commandments. I constantly see the second greatest command being broken constantly with those who believe in the sabbath
One thing for certain, Paul said this:
Galatians 4:10-11 (KJV)
10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
Galatians 5:1 (KJV)
1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
@JacobGboy: Have you heard of the Peshitta? Some believe it to have been written in Aramaic, the language Yeshua actually spoke in. Peshitta Hebrews 4:9 says, "It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath."
What if this is the proper interpretation? Then what will you do?
you miss the whole point of keeping the Sabbath
Lev 24:8 Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, [being taken] from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant.