Bro don't let the haters bother you. I discovered the math connection by accident thirty years ago when I first discovered the modes I can't sight read but I was a professional musician in my youth . I started playing the modes down the neck and I was shocked to see it was a math formula I was telling everyone I came across some understood what I was saying some didn't but I was amazed it was a conveyor belt of patterns or formulas whatever you prefer. I just couldn't articulate it well. But I knew what I meant start at G Ionian Dorian so on so forth you wil see it. Good for you brother. Keep doing what you're doing. Your one of the most innovative original music educators out there right now. Package it and sell it. Good luck and GOD BLESS 😊😊
I think one of the major things to remember is that everyone learns differently. I think those of us that found value in it really cherish it because it's a new way of visualizing, old notation etc. Each of us learns in a different way and for some of his, this won't ever make sense. But for those of us that do this is great! Thank you for sharing this
Exactly! I happen to love geometry and see all of life through arcs, angles, triangulation, spirals, parabolic vertices, etc. But many people must learn in linear, non-overlapping segments, with lists instead of concepts.
I have been going through your videos nonstop. With your paradigm shift, in just 24 hours, I have found the answers to all the questions that I have been accumulating “in geometric progression” 😉 as I went through the channels of others, for months, trying to learn music theory. They seem to obscure it on purpose. Some make you listen them play a whole song before they start storytelling without substance. You are the real thing; your abstraction is brilliant. Do not listen to the others, keep the good work. I ‘d like some day to be able to create compositions as stunning as Stairway to Heaven and Funeral for a Friend.
it is not only necessarily just geometry it is more so on the patterns too! you are right there, but those who don't understand your method - by the way which I love - because it is exactly what I've been doing the last 2 years is- visualizing it and coloring it on Adobe Illustrator !!! THANK YOU :)
I really like what you're doing, and as a visual learner this perspective is very useful. Other people may learn and understand in different ways that may not find it as useful, or may even find it confusing. I like that you acknowledge that we all have different perspectives and there really is room for all of us to understand in our own individual ways. Keep up the great work
Here's an interesting pattern: I click on video because I'm interested to learn more. I watch the video. I don't get it right away. But instead of going over it until I understand the content, I blame the content and the content creator for my confusion. In fact I'm so mad that someone offered thought-provoking challenging material that I don't instantly get, I have to post a negative comment. (Shakes fist at sky) "Don't. Make. Me. Think!" Oy vey. I love how you've connected these patterns to color and geometry. The patterns are there, and you've made it easier for me to digest theory. Music is patterns and variations on patterns. Thanks for all your work, Mike George! I want charts of all this for my wall. Those stickers are cool, too.
Don't let anyone discourage you...your videos enhance understanding of music theory! Did any of your detractors ever play with a "Spirograph" when they were kids? ....(and drew cool shapes and designs like the ones presented in your videos)?
These diagrams visualise the relationship between various note intervals and his use of the colour palette to reiterate this is brilliant for students at any stage
I am 68 and have been playing guitar for 58 years. I suspected that the guitar was a mathematical instrument and theory in general was the same but never had the insights to put it into cogent form. You have presented, in logical form, what was spinning in my head. THANK YOU. I cannot wait to see all the videos in your series.
Fascinating. I almost feel privileged that not everyone gets it. I definitely haven't wrapped my head around everything, but, you have started me on a path of understanding.
Thank you for making this series. I liked the holy trinity part a lot. I don’t know color theory past secondary. I still found lots of helpful information in this series when it comes to understanding the fretboard. You talked at one point about taking away the numbers and letters all together like training wheels, but aren’t the colors stationary just like the note names? I mean a rectangular red is always C which has different functions in different keys. Maybe you’re course will clear that up? I’m a bass player and you came up in my feed because I’ve been researching fretboard mapping lately.
I just got into your videos yesterday and my mind is just exploding with understanding of what's happening now. Thank you so much for illuminating this. Really special.
(Engineering dude who doesn’t play an instrument or can read music notation) sees this video and other videos of yours on the subject…wow! Really cool!
I think the analysis you have applied to music is ingenious. It answers so many questions I had. One thing that I found useful was researching the color wheel as it applies to art. Once I understood how the color wheel works, that cleared up alot of the uncertainty about how you were applying the application of color to music theory. Hope you continue to produce ongoing content. 👍🏽 PS: Your use of graphics and illustrations is among the best I’ve seen in music theory explanation.👍🏽
Your videos are a great help and nerd food for the 🧠 don't ever change! Pythagoras is shaking his head at the limited mindset of those who are complaining about math in music. Mathematician, magician and musician 🔺️✌️❤️✨️
This speaks volumes about what passes for education in the US. I found your expositions remarkably helpful. People who can't count don't count. I had my first formal music lesson in 1962. I am still learning.
You're doing a great job! I appreciate all of your work here. It's very helpful for someone who could never understand music theory to untangle it and see how all these patterns are basically all in one area. People seem very sensitive about the rigid way that they learned it and put the emotion into comments rather than music. So don't worry about any of those people, you're doing great.
I love it, because it makes me very confident using my transpose feature on my piano and my capo on my guitar. It makes playing along with the radio much easier!! Less chords to learn in order to just have fun learning to play by ear.
First of all, this channel is definitely way too underrated!! Keep it going bro, you deserve big attention! Music is based on patterns, rhythmic patters, harmonic patterns, frequency patterns, and all of this can be used as tools to take control of what you're doing with music. For example, all the intervals are mathematical ratios, and the simpler the ratios, the better the intervals sound (octave 1:2 vs minior second 15:16). symmetrical patterns like diminished chords, augmented chords, wholetone scale, half-whole and whole-half scales etc, are like portals without a center, where you can go through to everywhere you want. if you call it geometry or whatever doesn't matter, if somebody dismisses the incredibly helpful concepts of patterns, of shifting these patterns around, and how much it can improve your skills and sound without too much to remember, then that's just being ignorant. i use stuff like this all the time with my music students, and they profit from it a looooot. and in the end, it's not that much stuff and not so complicated. if 8 year old children understand this and use it, everybody can!
Your videos have really opened up my knowledge of the Circle of Fifths, and much more. I'm sorry that some have found otherwise. I feel that it's both easy and difficult to learn so much material. However, this perspective is very educational and my new preferred learning method.
Definitivamente me encanta todo! El humor, la forma de enseñar, la foma de simplificar y permitir que la teoría musical sea mas sencilla. 10/10 In my opinion, all your videos make the music theory more understandable and easy to process. I've been practice more than the first time I got my instrument xD. This knowledge is pure gold! (I love the colors, the patterns, the geometry!!!)
People just get annoyed that music theory is not a step-by-step instruction guide to create music but rather a guide to writing it down. Music theory is observed after the fact, applied to music rather than music existing because of it.
@@mikegeorge360 Nothing seems to divide the musician family like the " do you need theory, does it matter " question. On the one side you have people who think theory is nothing but a constraint on their creativity , and on the other side we have people who think all music is rubbish unless it's consists of 17 key changes, modulations, 1000 chords and a time signature that wont sit still ( jazz musicians as they're more commonly known) 🤣🤣🤣 Music, by itself, is abstract. Theory is abstracted out if it, a abstraction of the abstract, so no wonder people find it hard to pin down. But its in that openess, the fact you can't pin it down, that all the wonderfull variations and genres of music can legitimately call themselves music. Jeez, waffle. Anyway love the vids because if theory can be prescriptive like you say, its done by attacking in unique and different ways, which I think and hope is what you're trying to do here. Again love the vids, keep it up.
Hey Mike, you're terrific!!! Ive been watching other videos and trying to get a grip on theory with no luck and a lot of frustration. Then I watched your videos and finally its all making sense now. You're very good at explaining and a unique way of the color presentation which really works for me.. Its perfect.... thank you!!!
I loved geometry, and I love your geometry of music video. A novice guitarist at 67, geometry helps me link what I do naturally with voice, to finding my way around an external instrument. Thanks for the lessons!
It’s all useful. Thank you. Could you do a video on tonnetz (i think I’m spelling that correctly). I’ve been exploring the tonnetz as a tool and it’s also an interesting rabbit hole of insight.
As a visual learner I too benefitted from your modes diagrams, those along with your real world song performances really helped demystify the subject and I'm looking forward to practicing modes a bite at a time. Getting my ear attuned and fingers trained to find these new patterns on guitar, no quick fix possible but a clearer overview is encouraging. What modes beyond the major and minor should I tackle first? I can understand what some are moaning about, like the circle of fifths. This was devised as a quick reference tool, a useful aide-memoire. Ok music is geometric, it's intriguing but showing every possible interconnection across the circle is impressive (fortunately three fours equal twelve) but for many learners its ott, just intimidating. You can't use every connection freeform. Possibly some genius of atonal music? :) These beautifully coloured, designed and animated diagrams obviously took hours to draw. So maybe a quick visual to show how the circle is built, then show how to use it and some useful patterns to help find borrowed chords, secondary dominants and such, (is that even possible)? I note there are few ads so this is not click-bait, it's sincere and that's good to see. Just please keep it quick and concise, we ain't getting any younger. Otherwise, seriously well done, kudos and thanks again.
Please continue what you started just as you are, please don’t dumb it down. Any plans on representing non-diatonic yet functional harmony like in jazz? Also seeing modes in order of brightness (not just scale degree ordering) with your color scheme could be super useful to see similarities and how each differs by only 1 note. Thanks for all you do. I’ve been referring people to your channel.❤
Very cool! I have been on this path for a while now, and it is very fascinating. You might want to check out Neuroplasticity. Simply the brain starts to wire up itself with the information that it is given. So in music practice and repetition the brain actually builds this new network of connections of visual, motor, and aural. So one day you are working on something musical and you just can’t get your brain and hands to get it to work, then the next day you come back and you can do it much easier. The brain is wiring itself for the input you keep inputting into it. Keep up the good work!
Man, I can totally relate. For the longest time I was just simply satisfied with breathing. Breathing in, breathing out; I'd do it all the time and it was great. Then some dude came along and told me about air and I was like, "Bro, what is this 'science' stuff? I'm just trying to breathe over hear. Are you telling me that I need to know about Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide, and whatever just to breathe, lol? Stop ruining life for me!!!"
You are the best teacher on music theory: PERIOD! Knowing music theory was the secret skill that made me an advanced player, I would be no where without it.
Very intellectual way of looking at and thinking about music..! I actually learned to play music when I was 9.... now I already loved music and used to think I was a rock star before I ever even thought that one day I would play in a band, but it was all about the groove and just having a mojo that made my timing impeccable, which was also a big part of my basketball playing...! Funny how you used that same sort of analogy in your presentation..!? Anyhow, I didn't even really know what I wanted to play in my school band, just that I wanted to groove out... so I started playing drums, but my school, whole town really, was living on a very tight budget to put it lightly, and my instructor asked me if I would be interested in playing a tuba.... 😬 Let's just say that I was 9 in fourth grade, so we settled on the baritone! Lol Which was still bigger than I was, wanting me to take it home to practice was like watching me wrestle with R2D2 on my way home from school so that s**t only lasted one day, but like the whole groove thing and natural take to music in general I picked up the baritone like I had been playing it for years, never practiced at home, but everyday we had band practice. I was the only bass section in the whole school, for my first couple years in elementary school I had a good friend who played trombone and just before we were getting ready to go into middle school or school picked up some transplants and we each got a second chair in our section and another good friend switched from saxophone to bari-saxophone, now we were getting some bottom end in the band which was so well needed because we didn't have too many people! And now this whole time I'm learning music by reading charts... I never knew anything about how to read music, never played a guitar and as far as drums, I only ever played one of those drum pads.... ✊ But fortunately I ended up enjoying it and I even went to some camps and did solo and ensemble competitions and scored incredibly well considering my practice habits were absolutely nonexistent... I told the one lady who was a judge/sponsor/chaperon type person... I hope that I can remember the whole piece because I hadn't even looked or practiced the chart since I got it two days ago..!? I ended up with a B+... I probably would've pulled an 'A' if I would've practiced, but practice and homework were never in my vocabulary, after all I had a skateboard to ride and some '80s Heavy Hair Metal to listen to..! So I played and read charts on the fly from 9 in 4th grade on through to 13 in 8th grade and my middle school band instructor was the most nastiest, craziest, psycho lady who would freak out and yell and scream at room full of 12-13 year olds and I mean yelling like we were in the NY Symphony or something, and after 2 years of her I was so totally turned off about being in band anymore, that I ended up quitting when I started HS... which I regret because I really should have joined the HS band because I had a scholarship already wrapped up on the music end, but I kept skating and found an old beat up wannabe Hofner Beatle bass and I just started fiddling around, smoked too much and forgot how to read charts and didn't seem to care and I gave Syd Vicious a run for his money when it came to bass, (Syd was horrible for those who don't know)..! Lolol That was supposed to be funny! Lol Idk anyway, I did finally take bass lessons and started an Indie/Psychedelic/Basement Rock band and we were actually pretty decent, we were together for about 6/7 years, we did all originals with a cover every so often, made a couple EPs in a couple different studios, but mostly we used to record in my grandmother's basement! I ran a 12 channel board and sub us to 4/ channels and ran those 4 into my Tascam 424 4/trk cassette machine..! And to get back to the topic of this whole thing, when I would write songs, I used to use the idea of hitting different strings in different shapes to see what kind of rhythm or timbre I might touch on while doing it and I honestly came up with quite a few riffs and song ideas just buy trying different things, even taking the form of a scale and changing part of it to make a different shape and like you explained earlier.... it's always intriguing what you might come across...! Thanks for sharing, it was nostalgic if anything! L8R SK8R -Ace
Love the way you use math in teaching, i thought how music was linked to math some years ago but i could not find it out very clear and now here you're making my dream true. music is science and it's going to be easy for coz I'm scientist
Pat Martino has TrueFire course where he uses the triangle and the square to explain augmented and diminished chords. I find this to be a good way to create a kind of memory peg for these relationships. Thanks for posting
You’re on the right side of history on this debate. There will always be campfire strummers stuck on their cowboy chords, and that’s fine for them. But to really take your music to the next level, theory can open up a WORLD of possibilities. I feel bad for people too stubborn to learn it because they don’t know what they don’t know. Maybe they memorize some barre chords but have no idea why that shape is what it is or how to think through inversions. Anyway, keep up the good work. You’ll never please everyone. 🙏
Mike your explanation and tonnetz, a color, shape and geometry based explanation of music is the only way I can understand music, it resonates with me on deep level. Unlike the traditional score and arbitrary terminology around it, which maybe helps an interpreter, but does not facilitate a composer or a person who really wants to understand what the heck is going on. Thanks!
As an artist and musician and someone who is interested in math I find it all very true and strange . But I understand it all in small ways. Also vibration .. in the beginning was the word . We are sound . We are vibrations solidified
Hi Mike I have been trying to understand music theory for long time. After watching your videos. I get a little understanding about the music theory a little bit. Thank you You are good.
Your amazing, i love this channel. I've been wishing for this paradigm shift, ahhh can't wait to wake up early and get into this stuff! Thank you so much for following your bliss.
Clearly and surely there are different learning styles. I think if you’ve already had some level of traditional music theory training this makes it easier and clearer to understand by connecting it to geometry of shapes and patterns and colors. Visually this makes it easier to understand beyond the simple monotony of memorization of notes and scales, especially for anyone who is neurodivergent. Most are just projecting their fears or traumas from past math angst and complex egos. It’s a very simplified framework that just so happens to be different to their biased approaches of learning or what they already know or think they know. I.E. it’s hard to get people to change who are fixed and dead set on one way or the right way of doing things or my way is the best way, when they are literally multiple ways to get there. And this applies to many, many circumstances. As a classically trained pianist, I appreciate this approach. I did well in music theory the traditional way, but this likely could’ve have helped me a lot more with ear training years ago while at a college conservatory. I imagine hearing chord progressions and being able to visualize that in shapes and colors may have helped train my ear better as someone who could not play well by ear like those with the natural capability. Guess I can retrain with this in mind. So thank you‼️
I don't know yet whether this is going to be really helpful. It is certainly a different way of looking at theory and it is what I'm looking for as I'm just starting out and anything that helps to make better sense of things and has a practical application is ultimately going to be a good thing from my POV. You definitely have me interested for sure.
"Without deviation from the norm,progress is not possible"F.Zappa..I get it...Have you seen the "Harmonic Code" episode of Ancient Aliens,it is worth the time,even if your not into aliens..the mandalas that were made with simple pitches was incredible higher being more complex than lower pitches..I see your pythagoras clip,,haven't watched but will this evening.This is fantastic what you are doing.Thank You
People who are not open minded enough to accept that there are other approaches available are simply that.... closed minded beings. I know that no one is obliged to accept or agree to any certain approach or method, but that being said, some of the comments on your video trying to diminish the value of it just because they do not understand it, or do not want to understand it, and trying to make it look like the problem is the approach itself is simply ridiculous. In my case after watching your video, you just got me as a new subscriber. Thanks for what you do and bringing interesting topics very different to what everybody else is doing. Amazing, and refreshing to say the least!!!
Hey man,I just want to say,great work!!!! I agree that its about time to get rid of the old notation!!!!! Please do not stop what you are doing!!!Its needed!!! Thanks......
He estado investigando desde hace un tiempo y pensaba en aportar con algo que quizás ayude a comprender las implicaciones de integrar la geometría y el color en la teoría musical... De acuerdo a nuestras investigaciones, por ejemplo, si emparejamos el centro tonal de una escala con el color verde (ej. C/Verde), obtenemos una escala emocional de color, donde el verde corresponde a la característica más conservadora y brillante de la escala musical y a medida que se rota a través del círculo de quintas, se ve cómo la tensión aumenta hasta encontrar y corresponder con el color rojo en las escalas más intensas y regresar al verde volviendo al centro de gravedad, si emparejamos si buscamos una "rueda de emociones" y emparejamos por ejemplo la ira con el color rojo podemos obtener también una correspondencia con los cambios emocionales, con los de la escala así como con los colores, esto abre un campo creativo para utilizar estas correspondencias,.. Tomemos una tríada de colores, y veamos que acorde construye y coincidentemente (respecto a la rueda de emociones) hay una correlación entre los opuestos complementarios de las emociones, así como una situación no tiene emociones absolutas, y el comportamiento varía a veces de forma repentina entre estados emocionales, así mismo se puede apreciar de forma didáctica y gráfica, como suceden estos cambios emocionales a nivel musical con la utilización de la geometría en el círculo de quintas, este fenómeno es muy difícil de apreciar en la notación musical tradicional en pentagrama. En experimentos con mi compañía de teatro y nuestros músicos, hemos utilizado únicamente formas geométricas para guiar a las secciones del grupo en escena y en tiempo real, los actores fácilmente deducen el conjunto de emociones que tienen a su disposición, los bailarines pueden visualmente tener una referencia de qué tipo de movimiento deben realizar, y los músicos simultáneamente comprendían la escala y progresión de acordes que debían seguir, incluso el técnico de sonido podía tener un esquema de luz adecuado para reaccionar en el momento... Así nosotros logramos comprobar la interrelación estrecha que hay entre Sonido, Luz y Movimiento. (Por supuesto, puedo estar equivocado o no haber utilizado algunos términos correctamente, ya que no soy músico de profesión, sino Director de Teatro) Muy buen trabajo y felicidades.
Some people want music to remain a mysterious form of magic, and it is, but I think it's fun to understand how things work. You can make your magick more efficiently that way. Love your videos.
Awesome videos man. Don’t listen to these people. The truth is the truth. Music fallows natural order. I do understand how this could be intimidating to some people. Also you can experiment outside of this paradigm and there is nothing wrong with that.
Essential fundamentals for anyone serious about composing and song writing. The basic use of geometry and colour help map note chord progressions . Very useful tool /analogy.
I learnt playing scales from traditional score, arpeggios etc and memorizing building muscle memory and then improvising using my knowledge memory of chords progressions within keys etc. Your format is an invaluable accessible aid . Passion and Practice are still critical to develop on an instrument
Others are making the point already, I expect, but it seems worth repeating maybe that it’s sort of funny to say that thinking of music geometrically is a departure from tradition when this really is just the tradition, isn’t it, in quite ancient form. Conventions in music instruction have evolved (especially in the last century or so?) in ways that tend to obscure it perhaps. But these are old, old insights which we simply resurface in various ways as approaches to and experience of the art change and we’re brought back around, sooner or later, to proportion and relation as essential ‘science,’ in a now somewhat archaic understanding of the word.
Yeah, I’m not saying anything you’re not already getting at in your videos here, I realize now that I’ve started becoming a bit better acquainted with the channel. Looking forward to more!
Well, I've never understood it. Fact is I have zero musical talent, can't carry a beat in a bucket. Having said that, your diagrams carry much more information to me than music notation, which continues to elude me to this day. Years ago I bought a cheap guitar, not to make music, but to exercise my arthritic fingers. It's been good exercise but I am beginning to have a desire to learn enough about music to actually play it. I am slowly beginning to gain a little understanding and I plan to continue to learn as much as I can, but i do not expect to become a good player any time soon.🙂
Apparently this guy is super smart. He doesn’t even realize how confusing he sounds. That said,, I find it all very interesting. Theory is already tough enough without trying to figure out geometry. I wish there was more an emotional or simplified way to approach what he is explaining. Not all of us gravitate to geometry, complex geometrical shapes, Colors or mathematics. But I’m here to learn. So I will keep an open mind. I’ve always created music based on how I feel & how things sound in my head. Then manifest those ideas using instruments. All without Not knowing much about theory at all. But I am always trying to grow as an artist.
Yo recién supe de tu canal porque apareció de la "nada". Para mí está genial. Además de músico, yo también soy matemático y físico (profesión). Ya bajé tus videos para estudiarlos. Me interesa también el tema de simetría en la música, así como su compañera la asimetría. Por mi, sigue este camino que nos estás compartiendo. Te agradezco y te felicito por tu trabajo y tu canal. P. D. Yo uso mucho el color y tengo mi propio código, así como la regularidad geométrica. Por eso me gusta mucho tu aportación. Saludos cordiales desde México..!!!
¡Excelente! Gracias, Alejandro. La teoría musical es algo tan hermoso. Aprecio sus comentarios y es genial escuchar sobre su trabajo. ¡Estoy muy contento de que estés aquí!
It would be great if there was some type of video practical practice exercise. On how to apply this concept on piano, guitar bass etc. Not to mention a physical moving diagram. Like the animated version of the circle of fifths you showed in your circle of fifths geometry video. Either way it would help musicians to know how to apply these theories on their instruments. Or at least to have some kind of chart they can follow to create their own exercises through 2-5-1 ect. Including all of the modes. We need to see that idea or the concept applied to the instrument. We need to have exercises so we can know how to adopt the concept into our own playing. From the basic level to an advance. Just talking about it doesn’t help as much. Although it is interesting
Visual artists didn’t always have the color wheel and color theory to help us understand how colors relate to each other. It had to be devised (first by Newton). Now it’s a fundamental part of an art education
Great series. But if you were to represent (let´s say) C major in the geometric pattern, you will find a very irregular shape, but if you represent it in a simple pentagram you will see a very straightforward line, which represents more accurately the "linear" nature of the major scale. I think the geometric approach is beautiful and fantastic, and opens up endless possibilities, but disregarding the traditional notation... I don´t know. Just a thoguht! Your views and explanations are very original and usseful!!!!!
Thanks for your feedback, and I'm glad this helps! Music notation can definitely be useful too, but later in the process -- after one has already learned music theory. As an introduction to theory, I've seen notation cause more confusion than clarity.
This reminds me of playing pool. When I play pool I see lines. Know that I strike the ball with one angle it will cause the ball to go in another angle. I see triangles. We won’t get into putting English on the ball as that could be bending or vibrato. But weather people want to admit it geometry is everywhere in every day lifes.
Also I guess I should add that finger strength has never been an issue for me, my fingers are more than strong enough to fret even heavy strings although I use fairly light strings. Flexibility and accuracy are far more problematical, as my fingertips are so large that I frequently have problems with damping adjacent strings when chording.😁
Clearly those who commented negatively while crying about math do so out of ignorance to the point that their comments are basically without merit. Ignore them. Great videos and perspectives.
Excellent presentation Mike. I worked out the same ideas with numbers. My system is called The Symmetric Music Matrix. A 12X12 grid. P.S. Are you familiar with Harmonic Materials of Modern Music by Howard Hanson?
I got so caught up in my nostalgia that I forgot to say.... Music actually is a form of Mathematics, it was built on it and there is a reason why everything just seems to work out just right...!
Some viewers will be better off finding a different style and approach to learning, and that’s fine. For the rest of us that love your channel, no explanation is necessary. We get it. That the theory of music has an analogy in visual diagrams and can be understood as a logical theory of simple mathematics is actually beautiful, as is most of creation. What you present is very well done and for the right students clear to understand. Nothing is for everyone.
I made a graph with notes on the x and y axis with hopes of makes songs that make real nice shapes but I failed, can you attempt this soon? You could dim the lights and achieve my dream of a device that projects what you play
I think one of the reasons people don't like music theory is the way people are usually taught. Its usually taught as a set of rules that need to be followed, when what it is supposed to be is a way of explaining music. Its just like physics. Its a way of explaining the phenomenon that we experience. Its not something that we(necessarily) have to consciously use and think about. I do have an issue with thinking about music as geometry. It only really works if you start with the circle of fifths. But there are so many other ways one could lay out the music. This isn't to say that its a bad way of looking at it, just that it's only one way. Just like saying that music is nothing but math. Saying this assumes that math is a real thing, a set of rules that govern the universe, when it's nothing more than a means of explaining and measuring things. Both are ways of seeing the world and music, that have value. I apologize if I came across as argumentative, that was not my intention. I'm autistic and sometimes things don't come across the way I intend.
Algorithm, this is helpful! I love what he's doing!!! 😂 But on a more serious note, you've given me a new found excitement about improving my music theory. 🙏🏾
Listen mate… Don’t waste your time justifying what you’re doing. If people don’t resonate with you they have plenty more channels and other sources of information to choose from. Just keep doing what you’re doing. You’re Fantastic and align with my way of thinking about this spectacular language …
Bro don't let the haters bother you. I discovered the math connection by accident thirty years ago when I first discovered the modes I can't sight read but I was a professional musician in my youth . I started playing the modes down the neck and I was shocked to see it was a math formula I was telling everyone I came across some understood what I was saying some didn't but I was amazed it was a conveyor belt of patterns or formulas whatever you prefer. I just couldn't articulate it well. But I knew what I meant start at G Ionian Dorian so on so forth you wil see it. Good for you brother. Keep doing what you're doing. Your one of the most innovative original music educators out there right now. Package it and sell it. Good luck and GOD BLESS 😊😊
Throwing a hissy fit and packaging it up as "content" is pure gold. You do a real mean back-hander :p
This set of videos are some of the most beautiful and insightful explanations of music I have seen.
Thanks, Stuart!
Hear hear. I totally agree 👍
Agreed 🎉
I think one of the major things to remember is that everyone learns differently. I think those of us that found value in it really cherish it because it's a new way of visualizing, old notation etc. Each of us learns in a different way and for some of his, this won't ever make sense. But for those of us that do this is great!
Thank you for sharing this
Exactly! I happen to love geometry and see all of life through arcs, angles, triangulation, spirals, parabolic vertices, etc. But many people must learn in linear, non-overlapping segments, with lists instead of concepts.
I have been going through your videos nonstop. With your paradigm shift, in just 24 hours, I have found the answers to all the questions that I have been accumulating “in geometric progression” 😉 as I went through the channels of others, for months, trying to learn music theory. They seem to obscure it on purpose. Some make you listen them play a whole song before they start storytelling without substance. You are the real thing; your abstraction is brilliant. Do not listen to the others, keep the good work. I ‘d like some day to be able to create compositions as stunning as Stairway to Heaven and Funeral for a Friend.
it is not only necessarily just geometry it is more so on the patterns too! you are right there, but those who don't understand your method - by the way which I love - because it is exactly what I've been doing the last 2 years is- visualizing it and coloring it on Adobe Illustrator !!! THANK YOU :)
I really like what you're doing, and as a visual learner this perspective is very useful. Other people may learn and understand in different ways that may not find it as useful, or may even find it confusing. I like that you acknowledge that we all have different perspectives and there really is room for all of us to understand in our own individual ways. Keep up the great work
Here's an interesting pattern: I click on video because I'm interested to learn more. I watch the video. I don't get it right away. But instead of going over it until I understand the content, I blame the content and the content creator for my confusion. In fact I'm so mad that someone offered thought-provoking challenging material that I don't instantly get, I have to post a negative comment. (Shakes fist at sky) "Don't. Make. Me. Think!"
Oy vey. I love how you've connected these patterns to color and geometry. The patterns are there, and you've made it easier for me to digest theory. Music is patterns and variations on patterns. Thanks for all your work, Mike George! I want charts of all this for my wall. Those stickers are cool, too.
Adding colors and patterns only makes it easy to understand by engaging more sense. It is a great way.
Don't let anyone discourage you...your videos enhance understanding of music theory!
Did any of your detractors ever play with a "Spirograph" when they were kids? ....(and drew cool shapes and designs like the ones presented in your videos)?
These diagrams visualise the relationship between various note intervals and his use of the colour palette to reiterate this is brilliant for students at any stage
I am 68 and have been playing guitar for 58 years. I suspected that the guitar was a mathematical instrument and theory in general was the same but never had the insights to put it into cogent form. You have presented, in logical form, what was spinning in my head. THANK YOU. I cannot wait to see all the videos in your series.
Very cool. Thank you for your feedback, Russell. I'm glad this helps -- and much more to come.🤘
Fascinating. I almost feel privileged that not everyone gets it. I definitely haven't wrapped my head around everything, but, you have started me on a path of understanding.
Thank you for making this series. I liked the holy trinity part a lot. I don’t know color theory past secondary. I still found lots of helpful information in this series when it comes to understanding the fretboard. You talked at one point about taking away the numbers and letters all together like training wheels, but aren’t the colors stationary just like the note names? I mean a rectangular red is always C which has different functions in different keys. Maybe you’re course will clear that up? I’m a bass player and you came up in my feed because I’ve been researching fretboard mapping lately.
Don’t worry. When the student is ready the teacher appears😊
I just got into your videos yesterday and my mind is just exploding with understanding of what's happening now. Thank you so much for illuminating this. Really special.
(Engineering dude who doesn’t play an instrument or can read music notation) sees this video and other videos of yours on the subject…wow! Really cool!
I think the analysis you have applied to music is ingenious. It answers so many questions I had. One thing that I found useful was researching the color wheel as it applies to art. Once I understood how the color wheel works, that cleared up alot of the uncertainty about how you were applying the application of color to music theory. Hope you continue to produce ongoing content. 👍🏽
PS: Your use of graphics and illustrations is among the best I’ve seen in music theory explanation.👍🏽
Your videos are a great help and nerd food for the 🧠 don't ever change! Pythagoras is shaking his head at the limited mindset of those who are complaining about math in music. Mathematician, magician and musician 🔺️✌️❤️✨️
Amazing stuff, Mike! Your teaching method totally resonates with me. Thanks for making these videos... keep it up!
This speaks volumes about what passes for education in the US.
I found your expositions remarkably helpful. People who can't count don't count. I had my first formal music lesson in 1962. I am still learning.
I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate your explanations. I love that you took the time to answer the questions in person. good on you xx
You're doing a great job! I appreciate all of your work here. It's very helpful for someone who could never understand music theory to untangle it and see how all these patterns are basically all in one area. People seem very sensitive about the rigid way that they learned it and put the emotion into comments rather than music. So don't worry about any of those people, you're doing great.
I love it, because it makes me very confident using my transpose feature on my piano and my capo on my guitar. It makes playing along with the radio much easier!! Less chords to learn in order to just have fun learning to play by ear.
First of all, this channel is definitely way too underrated!! Keep it going bro, you deserve big attention!
Music is based on patterns, rhythmic patters, harmonic patterns, frequency patterns, and all of this can be used as tools to take control of what you're doing with music. For example, all the intervals are mathematical ratios, and the simpler the ratios, the better the intervals sound (octave 1:2 vs minior second 15:16). symmetrical patterns like diminished chords, augmented chords, wholetone scale, half-whole and whole-half scales etc, are like portals without a center, where you can go through to everywhere you want. if you call it geometry or whatever doesn't matter, if somebody dismisses the incredibly helpful concepts of patterns, of shifting these patterns around, and how much it can improve your skills and sound without too much to remember, then that's just being ignorant. i use stuff like this all the time with my music students, and they profit from it a looooot. and in the end, it's not that much stuff and not so complicated. if 8 year old children understand this and use it, everybody can!
Your videos have really opened up my knowledge of the Circle of Fifths, and much more. I'm sorry that some have found otherwise. I feel that it's both easy and difficult to learn so much material. However, this perspective is very educational and my new preferred learning method.
Definitivamente me encanta todo! El humor, la forma de enseñar, la foma de simplificar y permitir que la teoría musical sea mas sencilla. 10/10
In my opinion, all your videos make the music theory more understandable and easy to process. I've been practice more than the first time I got my instrument xD. This knowledge is pure gold! (I love the colors, the patterns, the geometry!!!)
I'm fascinated with color and geometry. I love to watch the shapes evolve as you explain theory. My heart soars!!! Thank you for all your hard work.
People just get annoyed that music theory is not a step-by-step instruction guide to create music but rather a guide to writing it down. Music theory is observed after the fact, applied to music rather than music existing because of it.
You're right, I see what you're saying. From my experience, music theory, just like the scientific method, can be both descriptive and prescriptive.
@@mikegeorge360 Nothing seems to divide the musician family like the " do you need theory, does it matter " question. On the one side you have people who think theory is nothing but a constraint on their creativity , and on the other side we have people who think all music is rubbish unless it's consists of 17 key changes, modulations, 1000 chords and a time signature that wont sit still ( jazz musicians as they're more commonly known) 🤣🤣🤣
Music, by itself, is abstract. Theory is abstracted out if it, a abstraction of the abstract, so no wonder people find it hard to pin down. But its in that openess, the fact you can't pin it down, that all the wonderfull variations and genres of music can legitimately call themselves music.
Jeez, waffle. Anyway love the vids because if theory can be prescriptive like you say, its done by attacking in unique and different ways, which I think and hope is what you're trying to do here.
Again love the vids, keep it up.
Hey Mike, you're terrific!!! Ive been watching other videos and trying to get a grip on theory with no luck and a lot of frustration. Then I watched your videos and finally its all making sense now. You're very good at explaining and a unique way of the color presentation which really works for me.. Its perfect.... thank you!!!
I loved geometry, and I love your geometry of music video. A novice guitarist at 67, geometry helps me link what I do naturally with voice, to finding my way around an external instrument. Thanks for the lessons!
Very cool -- I'm glad this helps!
It’s all useful. Thank you. Could you do a video on tonnetz (i think I’m spelling that correctly). I’ve been exploring the tonnetz as a tool and it’s also an interesting rabbit hole of insight.
This is a really good idea.
As a visual learner I too benefitted from your modes diagrams, those along with your real world song performances really helped demystify the subject and I'm looking forward to practicing modes a bite at a time. Getting my ear attuned and fingers trained to find these new patterns on guitar, no quick fix possible but a clearer overview is encouraging. What modes beyond the major and minor should I tackle first?
I can understand what some are moaning about, like the circle of fifths. This was devised as a quick reference tool, a useful aide-memoire. Ok music is geometric, it's intriguing but showing every possible interconnection across the circle is impressive (fortunately three fours equal twelve) but for many learners its ott, just intimidating. You can't use every connection freeform. Possibly some genius of atonal music? :)
These beautifully coloured, designed and animated diagrams obviously took hours to draw. So maybe a quick visual to show how the circle is built, then show how to use it and some useful patterns to help find borrowed chords, secondary dominants and such, (is that even possible)? I note there are few ads so this is not click-bait, it's sincere and that's good to see. Just please keep it quick and concise, we ain't getting any younger. Otherwise, seriously well done, kudos and thanks again.
Please continue what you started just as you are, please don’t dumb it down. Any plans on representing non-diatonic yet functional harmony like in jazz? Also seeing modes in order of brightness (not just scale degree ordering) with your color scheme could be super useful to see similarities and how each differs by only 1 note. Thanks for all you do. I’ve been referring people to your channel.❤
Very cool! I have been on this path for a while now, and it is very fascinating. You might want to check out Neuroplasticity. Simply the brain starts to wire up itself with the information that it is given. So in music practice and repetition the brain actually builds this new network of connections of visual, motor, and aural. So one day you are working on something musical and you just can’t get your brain and hands to get it to work, then the next day you come back and you can do it much easier. The brain is wiring itself for the input you keep inputting into it. Keep up the good work!
Man, I can totally relate. For the longest time I was just simply satisfied with breathing. Breathing in, breathing out; I'd do it all the time and it was great. Then some dude came along and told me about air and I was like, "Bro, what is this 'science' stuff? I'm just trying to breathe over hear. Are you telling me that I need to know about Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon Dioxide, and whatever just to breathe, lol? Stop ruining life for me!!!"
Yes. Not knowing the details of a subject can be totally fine and even great. But then also knowing the details of that subject can be awesome. :)
You are the best teacher on music theory: PERIOD! Knowing music theory was the secret skill that made me an advanced player, I would be no where without it.
Very intellectual way of looking at and thinking about music..! I actually learned to play music when I was 9.... now I already loved music and used to think I was a rock star before I ever even thought that one day I would play in a band, but it was all about the groove and just having a mojo that made my timing impeccable, which was also a big part of my basketball playing...! Funny how you used that same sort of analogy in your presentation..!? Anyhow, I didn't even really know what I wanted to play in my school band, just that I wanted to groove out... so I started playing drums, but my school, whole town really, was living on a very tight budget to put it lightly, and my instructor asked me if I would be interested in playing a tuba.... 😬 Let's just say that I was 9 in fourth grade, so we settled on the baritone! Lol Which was still bigger than I was, wanting me to take it home to practice was like watching me wrestle with R2D2 on my way home from school so that s**t only lasted one day, but like the whole groove thing and natural take to music in general I picked up the baritone like I had been playing it for years, never practiced at home, but everyday we had band practice. I was the only bass section in the whole school, for my first couple years in elementary school I had a good friend who played trombone and just before we were getting ready to go into middle school or school picked up some transplants and we each got a second chair in our section and another good friend switched from saxophone to
bari-saxophone, now we were getting some bottom end in the band which was so well needed because we didn't have too many people! And now this whole time I'm learning music by reading charts... I never knew anything about how to read music, never played a guitar and as far as drums, I only ever played one of those drum pads.... ✊ But fortunately I ended up enjoying it and I even went to some camps and did solo and ensemble competitions and scored incredibly well considering my practice habits were absolutely nonexistent... I told the one lady who was a judge/sponsor/chaperon type person... I hope that I can remember the whole piece because I hadn't even looked or practiced the chart since I got it two days ago..!? I ended up with a B+... I probably would've pulled an 'A' if I would've practiced, but practice and homework were never in my vocabulary, after all I had a skateboard to ride and some '80s Heavy Hair Metal to listen to..! So I played and read charts on the fly from 9 in 4th grade on through to 13 in 8th grade and my middle school band instructor was the most nastiest, craziest, psycho lady who would freak out and yell and scream at room full of 12-13 year olds and I mean yelling like we were in the NY Symphony or something, and after 2 years of her I was so totally turned off about being in band anymore, that I ended up quitting when I started HS... which I regret because I really should have joined the HS band because I had a scholarship already wrapped up on the music end, but I kept skating and found an old beat up wannabe Hofner Beatle bass and I just started fiddling around, smoked too much and forgot how to read charts and didn't seem to care and I gave Syd Vicious a run for his money when it came to bass, (Syd was horrible for those who don't know)..! Lolol That was supposed to be funny! Lol Idk anyway, I did finally take bass lessons and started an Indie/Psychedelic/Basement Rock band and we were actually pretty decent, we were together for about 6/7 years, we did all originals with a cover every so often, made a couple EPs in a couple different studios, but mostly we used to record in my grandmother's basement! I ran a 12 channel board and sub us to 4/ channels and ran those 4 into my Tascam 424 4/trk cassette machine..! And to get back to the topic of this whole thing, when I would write songs, I used to use the idea of hitting different strings in different shapes to see what kind of rhythm or timbre I might touch on while doing it and I honestly came up with quite a few riffs and song ideas just buy trying different things, even taking the form of a scale and changing part of it to make a different shape and like you explained earlier.... it's always intriguing what you might come across...! Thanks for sharing, it was nostalgic if anything! L8R SK8R
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I love these videos, They help me visualize patterns that I have already been trying to map on my own and have saved me a lot of time. Thanks a lot!
Your ability to explain things is astounding
Love the way you use math in teaching, i thought how music was linked to math some years ago but i could not find it out very clear and now here you're making my dream true. music is science and it's going to be easy for coz I'm scientist
Pat Martino has TrueFire course where he uses the triangle and the square to explain augmented and diminished chords. I find this to be a good way to create a kind of memory peg for these relationships. Thanks for posting
You’re on the right side of history on this debate. There will always be campfire strummers stuck on their cowboy chords, and that’s fine for them. But to really take your music to the next level, theory can open up a WORLD of possibilities. I feel bad for people too stubborn to learn it because they don’t know what they don’t know. Maybe they memorize some barre chords but have no idea why that shape is what it is or how to think through inversions. Anyway, keep up the good work. You’ll never please everyone. 🙏
Mike your explanation and tonnetz, a color, shape and geometry based explanation of music is the only way I can understand music, it resonates with me on deep level. Unlike the traditional score and arbitrary terminology around it, which maybe helps an interpreter, but does not facilitate a composer or a person who really wants to understand what the heck is going on. Thanks!
As an artist and musician and someone who is interested in math I find it all very true and strange . But I understand it all in small ways. Also vibration .. in the beginning was the word . We are sound . We are vibrations solidified
Somehow ,I’ve thought about this too. Mind blowing but comforting.
Hi Mike
I have been trying to understand music theory for long time. After watching your videos. I get a little understanding about the music theory a little bit. Thank you
You are good.
You are great is always good to learn the right way of music
Your amazing, i love this channel. I've been wishing for this paradigm shift, ahhh can't wait to wake up early and get into this stuff! Thank you so much for following your bliss.
I'm so glad you're here, Nathanael and that this all is helpful stuff. You're feedback is also inspiring.🤘
@@mikegeorge360 Hell Yeah!
There are many ways to deliver knowledge. I like your innovative approach which is a great help for me. Keep up the great work.
Thankyou 🎉 for your excellent explanations I love visual learning and this is wonderful😊 ❤ You have inspired me Sheila Duke 🎉
Clearly and surely there are different learning styles. I think if you’ve already had some level of traditional music theory training this makes it easier and clearer to understand by connecting it to geometry of shapes and patterns and colors.
Visually this makes it easier to understand beyond the simple monotony of memorization of notes and scales, especially for anyone who is neurodivergent.
Most are just projecting their fears or traumas from past math angst and complex egos.
It’s a very simplified framework that just so happens to be different to their biased approaches of learning or what they already know or think they know.
I.E. it’s hard to get people to change who are fixed and dead set on one way or the right way of doing things or my way is the best way, when they are literally multiple ways to get there. And this applies to many, many circumstances.
As a classically trained pianist, I appreciate this approach. I did well in music theory the traditional way, but this likely could’ve have helped me a lot more with ear training years ago while at a college conservatory.
I imagine hearing chord progressions and being able to visualize that in shapes and colors may have helped train my ear better as someone who could not play well by ear like those with the natural capability. Guess I can retrain with this in mind. So thank you‼️
I don't know yet whether this is going to be really helpful. It is certainly a different way of looking at theory and it is what I'm looking for as I'm just starting out and anything that helps to make better sense of things and has a practical application is ultimately going to be a good thing from my POV. You definitely have me interested for sure.
Awesome-thanks for your feedback, Mark. Lots more to come. 🤘
"Without deviation from the norm,progress is not possible"F.Zappa..I get it...Have you seen the "Harmonic Code" episode of Ancient Aliens,it is worth the time,even if your not into aliens..the mandalas that were made with simple pitches was incredible higher being more complex than lower pitches..I see your pythagoras clip,,haven't watched but will this evening.This is fantastic what you are doing.Thank You
Very cool - thank you! The Zappa quote is spot on. I’ll need to check out that episode. 🤘
People who are not open minded enough to accept that there are other approaches available are simply that.... closed minded beings. I know that no one is obliged to accept or agree to any certain approach or method, but that being said, some of the comments on your video trying to diminish the value of it just because they do not understand it, or do not want to understand it, and trying to make it look like the problem is the approach itself is simply ridiculous. In my case after watching your video, you just got me as a new subscriber. Thanks for what you do and bringing interesting topics very different to what everybody else is doing. Amazing, and refreshing to say the least!!!
Thank you, Jose! I’m so glad you’re here. Music is such a beautiful thing. The more people who can “access” it the better, I think.
Seems the triggered one are the old teachers, the big artist keep that for them for hundred of years !!
Hey man,I just want to say,great work!!!! I agree that its about time to get rid of the old notation!!!!! Please do not stop what you are doing!!!Its needed!!! Thanks......
Thanks so much, Juan. The more of us who can access and really enjoy making music, the better! 🤘
He estado investigando desde hace un tiempo y pensaba en aportar con algo que quizás ayude a comprender las implicaciones de integrar la geometría y el color en la teoría musical... De acuerdo a nuestras investigaciones, por ejemplo, si emparejamos el centro tonal de una escala con el color verde (ej. C/Verde), obtenemos una escala emocional de color, donde el verde corresponde a la característica más conservadora y brillante de la escala musical y a medida que se rota a través del círculo de quintas, se ve cómo la tensión aumenta hasta encontrar y corresponder con el color rojo en las escalas más intensas y regresar al verde volviendo al centro de gravedad, si emparejamos si buscamos una "rueda de emociones" y emparejamos por ejemplo la ira con el color rojo podemos obtener también una correspondencia con los cambios emocionales, con los de la escala así como con los colores, esto abre un campo creativo para utilizar estas correspondencias,.. Tomemos una tríada de colores, y veamos que acorde construye y coincidentemente (respecto a la rueda de emociones) hay una correlación entre los opuestos complementarios de las emociones, así como una situación no tiene emociones absolutas, y el comportamiento varía a veces de forma repentina entre estados emocionales, así mismo se puede apreciar de forma didáctica y gráfica, como suceden estos cambios emocionales a nivel musical con la utilización de la geometría en el círculo de quintas, este fenómeno es muy difícil de apreciar en la notación musical tradicional en pentagrama. En experimentos con mi compañía de teatro y nuestros músicos, hemos utilizado únicamente formas geométricas para guiar a las secciones del grupo en escena y en tiempo real, los actores fácilmente deducen el conjunto de emociones que tienen a su disposición, los bailarines pueden visualmente tener una referencia de qué tipo de movimiento deben realizar, y los músicos simultáneamente comprendían la escala y progresión de acordes que debían seguir, incluso el técnico de sonido podía tener un esquema de luz adecuado para reaccionar en el momento... Así nosotros logramos comprobar la interrelación estrecha que hay entre Sonido, Luz y Movimiento. (Por supuesto, puedo estar equivocado o no haber utilizado algunos términos correctamente, ya que no soy músico de profesión, sino Director de Teatro)
Muy buen trabajo y felicidades.
¡La investigación que estás haciendo y la aplicación de estas ideas en el escenario es muy interesante!
Some people want music to remain a mysterious form of magic, and it is, but I think it's fun to understand how things work. You can make your magick more efficiently that way. Love your videos.
Awesome videos, man. Thank you and please keep instructing.
This channel is criminally underrated.
No matter how much you know I think you can learn something here.
Personally, I love this channel. Excellent way to explain a complicated concept. Keep up the good work.
And some....
to me it is so much more clearer than 99.9% others on UA-cam, and simply the most concise method I've seen!!!
Honestly genius, thank you for sharing these music theory ideas
Very cool, Joe -- I'm glad this is helpful! 🤘
Finally I got into something that really interests me, music and you make me get more into this thanks
Awesome videos man. Don’t listen to these people. The truth is the truth. Music fallows natural order. I do understand how this could be intimidating to some people. Also you can experiment outside of this paradigm and there is nothing wrong with that.
Definitely! 🤘
Absolutely keep up the great work Mike. Best representation of music theory ever. 🙏
I thought music was only 5 lines and 4 spaces, being an engineer I feel this perspective gives a very good to remember and is picturistic
Essential fundamentals for anyone serious about composing and song writing. The basic use of geometry and colour help map note chord progressions . Very useful tool /analogy.
I learnt playing scales from traditional score, arpeggios etc and memorizing building muscle memory and then improvising using my knowledge memory of chords progressions within keys etc. Your format is an invaluable accessible aid . Passion and Practice are still critical to develop on an instrument
music can start any key and could go to anywhere. color represent emotions. simple explanation.
Others are making the point already, I expect, but it seems worth repeating maybe that it’s sort of funny to say that thinking of music geometrically is a departure from tradition when this really is just the tradition, isn’t it, in quite ancient form. Conventions in music instruction have evolved (especially in the last century or so?) in ways that tend to obscure it perhaps. But these are old, old insights which we simply resurface in various ways as approaches to and experience of the art change and we’re brought back around, sooner or later, to proportion and relation as essential ‘science,’ in a now somewhat archaic understanding of the word.
Definitely! So well said. These patterns and relationships pre-date "traditional" methods of the Middle Ages, etc.
Yeah, I’m not saying anything you’re not already getting at in your videos here, I realize now that I’ve started becoming a bit better acquainted with the channel. Looking forward to more!
Well, I've never understood it. Fact is I have zero musical talent, can't carry a beat in a bucket. Having said that, your diagrams carry much more information to me than music notation, which continues to elude me to this day. Years ago I bought a cheap guitar, not to make music, but to exercise my arthritic fingers. It's been good exercise but I am beginning to have a desire to learn enough about music to actually play it. I am slowly beginning to gain a little understanding and I plan to continue to learn as much as I can, but i do not expect to become a good player any time soon.🙂
Apparently this guy is super smart. He doesn’t even realize how confusing he sounds. That said,, I find it all very interesting. Theory is already tough enough without trying to figure out geometry. I wish there was more an emotional or simplified way to approach what he is explaining. Not all of us gravitate to geometry, complex geometrical shapes, Colors or mathematics. But I’m here to learn. So I will keep an open mind. I’ve always created music based on how I feel & how things sound in my head. Then manifest those ideas using instruments. All without Not knowing much about theory at all. But I am always trying to grow as an artist.
Yo recién supe de tu canal porque apareció de la "nada". Para mí está genial. Además de músico, yo también soy matemático y físico (profesión). Ya bajé tus videos para estudiarlos. Me interesa también el tema de simetría en la música, así como su compañera la asimetría. Por mi, sigue este camino que nos estás compartiendo. Te agradezco y te felicito por tu trabajo y tu canal. P. D. Yo uso mucho el color y tengo mi propio código, así como la regularidad geométrica. Por eso me gusta mucho tu aportación. Saludos cordiales desde México..!!!
¡Excelente! Gracias, Alejandro. La teoría musical es algo tan hermoso. Aprecio sus comentarios y es genial escuchar sobre su trabajo. ¡Estoy muy contento de que estés aquí!
I’m just learning music and I found this visually helpful
Awesome!
It would be great if there was some type of video practical practice exercise. On how to apply this concept on piano, guitar bass etc. Not to mention a physical moving diagram. Like the animated version of the circle of fifths you showed in your circle of fifths geometry video. Either way it would help musicians to know how to apply these theories on their instruments. Or at least to have some kind of chart they can follow to create their own exercises through 2-5-1 ect. Including all of the modes. We need to see that idea or the concept applied to the instrument. We need to have exercises so we can know how to adopt the concept into our own playing. From the basic level to an advance. Just talking about it doesn’t help as much. Although it is interesting
Check out my playlists. Tons of resources in the community as well that cover what you describe.
Visual artists didn’t always have the color wheel and color theory to help us understand how colors relate to each other. It had to be devised (first by Newton). Now it’s a fundamental part of an art education
Stay curious!!! Awesome man, thanks a lot! 😃🧠
Love all these videos. Thank you for sharing 🙏
"Stop ruining music for me with THINKING."
Great series. But if you were to represent (let´s say) C major in the geometric pattern, you will find a very irregular shape, but if you represent it in a simple pentagram you will see a very straightforward line, which represents more accurately the "linear" nature of the major scale. I think the geometric approach is beautiful and fantastic, and opens up endless possibilities, but disregarding the traditional notation... I don´t know. Just a thoguht! Your views and explanations are very original and usseful!!!!!
Thanks for your feedback, and I'm glad this helps! Music notation can definitely be useful too, but later in the process -- after one has already learned music theory. As an introduction to theory, I've seen notation cause more confusion than clarity.
This reminds me of playing pool. When I play pool I see lines. Know that I strike the ball with one angle it will cause the ball to go in another angle. I see triangles. We won’t get into putting English on the ball as that could be bending or vibrato. But weather people want to admit it geometry is everywhere in every day lifes.
Also I guess I should add that finger strength has never been an issue for me, my fingers are more than strong enough to fret even heavy strings although I use fairly light strings. Flexibility and accuracy are far more problematical, as my fingertips are so large that I frequently have problems with damping adjacent strings when chording.😁
Lmao i cracked up when you spun the star around into a pentagram😂😂
Soy nuevo en el canal....esto es excelente, genial. Muchas gracias por este gran aporte.
¡Maravilloso, estoy tan contento de que estés aquí!
Clearly those who commented negatively while crying about math do so out of ignorance to the point that their comments are basically without merit. Ignore them. Great videos and perspectives.
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I like how you teach music in a different approach.
I subscribed after one video. Such good work, thanks
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anyone else reading dmitri tymoczko's 'a geometry of music'?
Excellent presentation Mike. I worked out the same ideas with numbers. My system is called The Symmetric Music Matrix. A 12X12 grid. P.S. Are you familiar with Harmonic Materials of Modern Music by Howard Hanson?
I love this approach Keep it coming
I find this pretty fascinating, and I do think 🤔 your on to something brilliant , smart 🤓 man ♂️😉
I got so caught up in my nostalgia that I forgot to say.... Music actually is a form of Mathematics, it was built on it and there is a reason why everything just seems to work out just right...!
PS. I can't use a circle of fifths because my calipers have broken...
That pentagon is Pythagorean… if people inverted it’s meaning later on then that’s another topic. Don’t fear what you don’t understand!
Yeah, that was cringy.
I think for people who are very visual, this approach really works
Some viewers will be better off finding a different style and approach to learning, and that’s fine. For the rest of us that love your channel, no explanation is necessary. We get it. That the theory of music has an analogy in visual diagrams and can be understood as a logical theory of simple mathematics is actually beautiful, as is most of creation. What you present is very well done and for the right students clear to understand. Nothing is for everyone.
I made a graph with notes on the x and y axis with hopes of makes songs that make real nice shapes but I failed, can you attempt this soon? You could dim the lights and achieve my dream of a device that projects what you play
The guitar fretboard is basically a Cartesian coordinate system on steroids. Lots of nice shapes: ua-cam.com/video/WxAf3NgF4jk/v-deo.html
I think one of the reasons people don't like music theory is the way people are usually taught.
Its usually taught as a set of rules that need to be followed, when what it is supposed to be is a way of explaining music.
Its just like physics. Its a way of explaining the phenomenon that we experience. Its not something that we(necessarily) have to consciously use and think about.
I do have an issue with thinking about music as geometry. It only really works if you start with the circle of fifths. But there are so many other ways one could lay out the music. This isn't to say that its a bad way of looking at it, just that it's only one way. Just like saying that music is nothing but math.
Saying this assumes that math is a real thing, a set of rules that govern the universe, when it's nothing more than a means of explaining and measuring things.
Both are ways of seeing the world and music, that have value.
I apologize if I came across as argumentative, that was not my intention. I'm autistic and sometimes things don't come across the way I intend.
Algorithm, this is helpful! I love what he's doing!!! 😂
But on a more serious note, you've given me a new found excitement about improving my music theory. 🙏🏾
Very, very cool - I’m so glad this is helpful. And thanks! 🤘
Are the graphs available for download when you become a a supporter of your Locals community?
Yes.
Listen mate… Don’t waste your time justifying what you’re doing.
If people don’t resonate with you they have plenty more channels and other sources of information to choose from. Just keep doing what you’re doing.
You’re Fantastic and align with my way of thinking about this spectacular language …
dont listen to those losers man! aint worth the time! you are the best of the best on internet for music info! clean like glass! amazing contents!!!!