The passage from the Will speaks for itself: "...and these, whether unanimously or by a majority vote, must give their assent to the choice of the one whom the Guardian of the Cause of God hath chosen as his successor. This assent must be given in such wise as the assenting and dissenting voices may not be distinguished (i.e., secret ballot)."
This is a bunch of covenant-breaking material. I may be a Baha'i that has declared two years ago (and I don't know everything), but I can tell that this is material from a covenant-breaker.
Only the Hands have the right to determine who the successor of Shoghi Effendi is, according to the Will and Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha. Most Baha'is are well educated on what happened. That's why they remain firm to the Covenant.
By the way, I have knowledge about the Guadian and the transition of the Guardianship to the Universal House of Justice. I also know about the Aghsan family tree. DO NOT think I don't know much about these things (or the Faith in particulcar). I've learned a lot since I had declared. And like I've said, I'm surrounded by a lot of knowledgeable Baha'is. And I do know about the concept of the independent investigation of Truth.
i wont say anything about covenant breaking, but will say that what you have done is taken a beautiful faith, just the way it is, & made anyone who views this video totally confused. & what would would you say to the someone who says, 'ok, yes i believe you. now what?' the main thing that sticks out in this effort is a great lack of care, that you can clearly see how offended people are by this & you still choose to respond to everyone with the same sad confirmations that you have come up with
I didn't say "consent". They are the ones who determine who the Guardian chose. The Guardian did not appoint anyone and that's what they determined. Their determination is unquestionable. It's a safety measure to ensure that self-serving pretenders like Remey could never usurp the Guardianship.
Trust me, I know many Baha'is in my area that have been Baha'is for a long time (and have great knowledge of the Baha'i Faith). If they saw this, they would probably think the same thing about it. Furthermore, I'm not personally calling you a convenant breaker. I don't have the authority to do that. I'm simply saying that the video appears to have some content that a covenant breaker may have come up with. Also, please review what God's covenant is.
"legally" being the son of Abdu'l-Baha does not cut it. Madonna had a son from Malawi. Not the same lineage, just an agreement. As such, since all descendents (Aghsan) has broken ranks with Shoghi Effendi during his lifetime, he did not appoint a successor. Presidency of IBC is a far cry from successorship. Shoghi Effendi would have been amply clear about this if he thought that Mason Remey met the criteria. He did not, therefore, the Faith only had one Guardian. No pope figure for you!
not much will be done about this because it makes no sense. you wont have any followers here my friend. and what would be there point? the faith, as i said, is beautiful as it is. why try and make it MORE than what it is. one that so many bahais have given their lives for. you spit on their back once again with this nerdy edit project. i would open a comic book store. really though, this is not guidance, i would not even be interested in God if it was as complex as you have made it.
Well, obviously you gravely misunderstand the Will and Testament and the Covenant, to your own detriment. As revealed in the Surah of Kafirun: "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."
The passage from the Will speaks for itself:
"...and these, whether unanimously or by a majority vote, must give their assent to the choice of the one whom the Guardian of the Cause of God hath chosen as his successor. This assent must be given in such wise as the assenting and dissenting voices may not be distinguished (i.e., secret ballot)."
This is a bunch of covenant-breaking material. I may be a Baha'i that has declared two years ago (and I don't know everything), but I can tell that this is material from a covenant-breaker.
Only the Hands have the right to determine who the successor of Shoghi Effendi is, according to the Will and Testament of 'Abdu'l-Baha. Most Baha'is are well educated on what happened. That's why they remain firm to the Covenant.
By the way, I have knowledge about the Guadian and the transition of the Guardianship to the Universal House of Justice. I also know about the Aghsan family tree. DO NOT think I don't know much about these things (or the Faith in particulcar). I've learned a lot since I had declared. And like I've said, I'm surrounded by a lot of knowledgeable Baha'is. And I do know about the concept of the independent investigation of Truth.
i wont say anything about covenant breaking, but will say that what you have done is taken a beautiful faith, just the way it is, & made anyone who views this video totally confused. & what would would you say to the someone who says, 'ok, yes i believe you. now what?' the main thing that sticks out in this effort is a great lack of care, that you can clearly see how offended people are by this & you still choose to respond to everyone with the same sad confirmations that you have come up with
I didn't say "consent". They are the ones who determine who the Guardian chose. The Guardian did not appoint anyone and that's what they determined. Their determination is unquestionable. It's a safety measure to ensure that self-serving pretenders like Remey could never usurp the Guardianship.
Trust me, I know many Baha'is in my area that have been Baha'is for a long time (and have great knowledge of the Baha'i Faith). If they saw this, they would probably think the same thing about it. Furthermore, I'm not personally calling you a convenant breaker. I don't have the authority to do that. I'm simply saying that the video appears to have some content that a covenant breaker may have come up with.
Also, please review what God's covenant is.
"legally" being the son of Abdu'l-Baha does not cut it. Madonna had a son from Malawi. Not the same lineage, just an agreement. As such, since all descendents (Aghsan) has broken ranks with Shoghi Effendi during his lifetime, he did not appoint a successor. Presidency of IBC is a far cry from successorship. Shoghi Effendi would have been amply clear about this if he thought that Mason Remey met the criteria. He did not, therefore, the Faith only had one Guardian. No pope figure for you!
silly covenant breakers. youve taken the Baha'i Faith and tried to turn it into something weird and hateful. lol how cute.
Covenant-breakers.... How pitiful.
not much will be done about this because it makes no sense. you wont have any followers here my friend. and what would be there point? the faith, as i said, is beautiful as it is. why try and make it MORE than what it is. one that so many bahais have given their lives for. you spit on their back once again with this nerdy edit project. i would open a comic book store. really though, this is not guidance, i would not even be interested in God if it was as complex as you have made it.
Well, obviously you gravely misunderstand the Will and Testament and the Covenant, to your own detriment. As revealed in the Surah of Kafirun: "Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."