Lads back then found it hard to get a job after being in saint pats... A few years ago wheni got out i left with a juniour cert once out i obtained my leaving cert and neither did me any good .... Once your record is marked by detention or imprisonment its closes so many doors and makes obtaining good work hard..... System needs to be changed what good is prison if a man serves his time but still gets punished once there time is served
Jessica Monaghan assault causing harm and assaulting a garda .... I was 17 at the time and very angry once i served my time i realised i didnt want that to be my life ....
We seek too much from detention. Nobody gets sentenced to rehabilitation. A sentence is given to fit the crime. Once that sentence is served the offender is free to go. We cannot enquire as to whether the offender has changed his/ attitude to crime. The period of detention has worked in that it kept the offender from crime for that period. We do not have the knowledge or skills to change people's behaviour during the serving of the sentence. We have theories. We have confused ideas about what might work. Two people treated identically in prison often have totally different outcomes. Of course we must do our best for people who offend. But let us not pretend that we can prescribe treatment that is likely to stop reoffending.
It looks like a regular a penitentiary (prison) and not a positive place for rehabilitation. It looks miserable. In 1963 they wanted to get in modern place, yet in 1983 nothing was done. Wow! Sad. @alcool1028 - I hope you were able to stay in society and not have to go back there. I hope your life got better.
Only saying to my young teenage daughters yesterday trying to scare them straight I suppose about the so called tough lads would cry themselves asleep at night crying for their mammy when the doors were banged out at night
I've heard the hard lads cry and try blame someone else it's the bullies who cry. The first guy John Byrne lives across the road and is very well off thanks to his friends he grew up with lol wait till I show his son this yee haaa. St. Pats wasn't like that when I was there it was full of heroin and nothing else. Mountjoy changed for the worse too. Prison is horrible your daughters won't know what the story is I two daughters myself.
My brother was abused by the Christian Brothers in Dunlaoghaire in the 1950s. My family emigrated Eire for Australia. My brother was abused by the Marist Brothers in Bendigo Australa. He ended up rebelling and ended up in Youth Jail. He eventually got a job in the merchant navy upon release. He is now 7 I with onset dementia. Thirty-five years ago I entered training for the priesthood. He asked me why I'd want to do a stupid thing like that. He started crying and told me how he had been abused. I was shocked but refused to believe him. When my spiritual advisor tried to be sexual with me I left the order. He was later accused by school boys for inappropriate behaviour towards them. I realized that my brother was telling the truth. How many countless lives have been ruined by these dog collared men in black? How many suicides? Kids in prison. Biggest cult in the World. BTW- the miraculous medal is a depiction of the vagina. It's the Vagina Mary not the Virgin Mary.
How could you not believe you own brother when he opened up to you..? imagine how he must of felt when he finds the courage to tell somebody just to be shut down.
@@tomakafrankconlon3207 it's funny how those who haven't been in jail always think it only happens on the telly and don't believe it when they meet someone who has been there.A lot of people who watch these videos have actually experienced prison life and aren't just fanboys in awe of it.Youre the only one around here who's delivering bullshit
What it's full of blks etc? Jail is too easy now I remember being thrown in a cell with tooth paste all over the walls and nothing to read had to get a little radio and buy our own batteries that was doing jail and no Jack's. Fighting was good eejits start and I'd batter them great getting out though. A lot of 16 Yr olds doing life woo makes ya feel lucky.
@@jamesryan3059 your English is very good well done, you mean our own or travelers or people born here. I thought my English was alright until I tried to make out your sentence lol bud. PS I didn't go around fighting young fellas liked to give each other stick I smoked to much hash for that so I could tell to shut up and act like a spoiled child somewhere else but some thought they were rambo they weren't my friend was Eddie ferncombe maddies prisoner in jail in the 90 did hostage in medical unit with other Warren Dumbrell another friend of mine but I'd rather read doing jail than act the fool reading is great as you'd know good luck 🍀
1963 - 60 years ago. Those young guys would be nearly 80 now. It would be interesting to hear some of their stories afterwards.
Lads back then found it hard to get a job after being in saint pats... A few years ago wheni got out i left with a juniour cert once out i obtained my leaving cert and neither did me any good .... Once your record is marked by detention or imprisonment its closes so many doors and makes obtaining good work hard..... System needs to be changed what good is prison if a man serves his time but still gets punished once there time is served
quack437 what we're u in prison for
Jessica Monaghan assault causing harm and assaulting a garda .... I was 17 at the time and very angry once i served my time i realised i didnt want that to be my life ....
quack437 how many years did u get
Jessica Monaghan in total i got 5 years but alot of the sentences ran along side each other.... In total i served two years
quack437 everybody deserves a chance in life
Thanks for posting. Great window into the past
We seek too much from detention. Nobody gets sentenced to rehabilitation. A sentence is given to fit the crime. Once that sentence is served the offender is free to go. We cannot enquire as to whether the offender has changed his/ attitude to crime. The period of detention has worked in that it kept the offender from crime for that period.
We do not have the knowledge or skills to change people's behaviour during the serving of the sentence. We have theories. We have confused ideas about what might work. Two people treated identically in prison often have totally different outcomes. Of course we must do our best for people who offend. But let us not pretend that we can prescribe treatment that is likely to stop reoffending.
Where did you copy and paste that from....
@@AMULET72 I was thinking the exact same thing hahaha what a Wally!!!!
Thanks so much for posting! :)
I was their in 1986 and it was the worst experience in my life
It looks like a regular a penitentiary (prison) and not a positive place for rehabilitation. It looks miserable. In 1963 they wanted to get in modern place, yet in 1983 nothing was done. Wow! Sad. @alcool1028 - I hope you were able to stay in society and not have to go back there. I hope your life got better.
Very interesting thank you for posting
EXCELLENT 📺📺📺📺series
Only saying to my young teenage daughters yesterday trying to scare them straight I suppose about the so called tough lads would cry themselves asleep at night crying for their mammy when the doors were banged out at night
I've heard the hard lads cry and try blame someone else it's the bullies who cry. The first guy John Byrne lives across the road and is very well off thanks to his friends he grew up with lol wait till I show his son this yee haaa. St. Pats wasn't like that when I was there it was full of heroin and nothing else. Mountjoy changed for the worse too. Prison is horrible your daughters won't know what the story is I two daughters myself.
30 years later ex prisoner thanks for the advice father I got into the entertainment business cause of not you know how did you end up in here ?
Why were petty offenders assigned to St, Patricks! I was born 1950 and was unaware of this. They would be considered wonderful now.
This is an interesting video.
Isabella A Rossellini spent some time there thank god it was the start of the 90s was a lot easier the 60s apart from the fighting good days
James I’m so glad your not here anymore ,,
My brother was abused by the Christian Brothers in Dunlaoghaire in the 1950s. My family emigrated Eire for Australia. My brother was abused by the Marist Brothers in Bendigo Australa. He ended up rebelling and ended up in Youth Jail. He eventually got a job in the merchant navy upon release. He is now 7 I with onset dementia. Thirty-five years ago I entered training for the priesthood. He asked me why I'd want to do a stupid thing like that. He started crying and told me how he had been abused. I was shocked but refused to believe him. When my spiritual advisor tried to be sexual with me I left the order. He was later accused by school boys for inappropriate behaviour towards them. I realized that my brother was telling the truth. How many countless lives have been ruined by these dog collared men in black? How many suicides? Kids in prison. Biggest cult in the World. BTW- the miraculous medal is a depiction of the vagina. It's the Vagina Mary not the Virgin Mary.
@Jan M there many great priests who do herioc work
How could you not believe you own brother when he opened up to you..? imagine how he must of felt when he finds the courage to tell somebody just to be shut down.
Them marists r blackrobes are the worst rot in helll corry u poxbastard
I was there twice early 80s man was hard time, compared to the the joy screws where right hard bastards
Bullshit. So what crimes did you commit to get you sent to gaol at least three times?
@@tomakafrankconlon3207 it's funny how those who haven't been in jail always think it only happens on the telly and don't believe it when they meet someone who has been there.A lot of people who watch these videos have actually experienced prison life and aren't just fanboys in awe of it.Youre the only one around here who's delivering bullshit
Do you have the theme music to Radharc in Retrospect
Place never changed one bit still the same...
How ?? The wings completely different
wonder if they would find any bodies their
Nowadays you have Barbie Kardashian and the ethnic brethren chilling out with ps4s in oberstown
What it's full of blks etc? Jail is too easy now I remember being thrown in a cell with tooth paste all over the walls and nothing to read had to get a little radio and buy our own batteries that was doing jail and no Jack's. Fighting was good eejits start and I'd batter them great getting out though. A lot of 16 Yr olds doing life woo makes ya feel lucky.
@@taimdia.8443 Full is not really the appropriate adjective, for the most part empty, indigenous ethnics.
@@jamesryan3059 your English is very good well done, you mean our own or travelers or people born here. I thought my English was alright until I tried to make out your sentence lol bud. PS I didn't go around fighting young fellas liked to give each other stick I smoked to much hash for that so I could tell to shut up and act like a spoiled child somewhere else but some thought they were rambo they weren't my friend was Eddie ferncombe maddies prisoner in jail in the 90 did hostage in medical unit with other Warren Dumbrell another friend of mine but I'd rather read doing jail than act the fool reading is great as you'd know good luck 🍀
A place of abuse contact your local td
the time is near take an action
I wonder where they ended up. How many of them reoffended for the roof over their heads and the three meals a day?
sorry 2
many a sore bum came out of there ,said father murphy
there is always some fool