The funny thing is even though Biboo sounds cuter I’m still glad that her official name is Bijou. It makes her nickname feel more endearing in a way that it wouldn’t if it was just her regular name.
The fact that they need to name their coworkers with their government name, proof how serious they must take being a Hololive Idol as a professional work.
serious answer, it's mainly for copyright/trademark and merchandise. it's fine to call Biboo as a nickname but for official stuff it's really important to keep using Bijou
@@mykellederickpalad7883possible, but even flesh streamers often call each other by their stream names off-stream. here's a few examples: - nobody in otk or mythic calls mizkif "matthew" or even "matt" on-stream. he's just known as "mizkif" or just "miz", even tho his real name is very much public knowledge. - esfand likewise is only really known as "esfand" in otk. i've never once heard a fellow otk member call him "tim". - pokimane is only really called "pokimane" or just "poki" by people who know her. she at this point responds to that better than her real name "imane". - iirc heyimbee has straight up stated she almost doesn't recognize her real name "bianca" bc she spent so much time in vrchat with everyone just calling her "bee". swaggersouls got to a similar point himself with his real name "eric", bc everyone just knew him as "swagger". (i think a few of the other misfits members even said they straight up forgot his real first name.) for some indie vtuber examples, numi, bao, and yuzu don't even really know each other by their real names, only their internet names, despite being close friends. they've even (half-jokingly) admitted this on-stream to be a potential source of future awkwardness as they get older and retire from content creation. it's worse among vtubers (and especially corpo vtubers), but it's not unique to them and certainly not unique to hololive.
@@shadow7179hololive would be able to use "biboo" as an alternate trademark. to cite an indie example, akuma nihmune uses both "akuma nihmune" and "numi" in her official branding interchangeably. it's a bit more awkward, but hololive very much could get away with it from a legal perspective. now, from a social perspective, japanese media is far less likely than western media to use informal nicknames for themselves in marketing. the west's entertainment business culture is a lot more casual than japan's entertainment business culture, and it shows even in how hololive's vtubers themselves communicate to their fan bases.
@@playerone198 As another Pole, I can confirm, we regularly use "à propos" (we pronounce it as almost one word "apropo" without saying the ending "s", so exactly as CC said too). At first, I did not notice CC said it (English use "by the way"), but when you indicated it, I came back to that clip, and yes, it was there. Unique thing for Hololive!
i stopped using a propos because i learned english. "speaking of" popping out in my mind way faster so im trying to translate it literally to other languages.
Name guide for new and JP Staffs. Watson Amelia = Ame Ninomae Ina'nis = Ina Mori Calliope = Calli Koseki Bijou = Biboo Cecelia Immergreen = Cece Elizabeth Rose Bloodflame = Liz
1:26 could be worse. half of jp doesn't know bae's official name even tho she collabs with them all the time. and those who do often forget how to spell it. they know her only as "bae" and "hakotoro"
everyone call her "koseki bijou" at this point she will be scared and ask "did i do something wrong you called me by my official name?" ofc except you're hakoz baelzu.
I really want in a future generation of hololive/stars to have a clearly autistic guy who calls everyone by their full name, no "callis" or "baes" just Callopie Moria and Hakos Bealz every time they speaks
Biboo sounds a lot catchier than Bijou, and suits her childish personality. Note how the only ones that challenge this simplification are Kaela and Bae, and they push it as a bit.
its because they made a pact that because they are the two members who were never called by their real name basically from the start that they will only use their full names with each other.
The only people who don't call her Biboo are Keala who calls her BEEJOE, and Bae who calls her Koseki Bijou (and in return, Biboo is the only one to call Bae Baelz).
@@this.is.kmost of jp still calls her bijou iirc used to be unanimous until this most recent hologta of course, where the jp girls picked up that all the en girls almost exclusively call her biboo
@@dead-claudia Fubuki is really the main one to really start calling her Biboo. Mainly from coming to rescue her when she flew off her motorcycle like 4 times
Staff should throw in the towel already, even Biboo herself has said that sometimes she doesn't recognize her own name right away when people call her by it instead of Biboo =)
Why would they call them by full official names, they are silly fake character names that are hard to say out loud. There’s no way they actually say “Miss Calliope Mori” or “Miss Ina’nis Ninomai” instead Of just Ina Or Mori
Everytime I hear Koseki Bijou now my brain automatically goes "Hakos Baelzu!"
The best pronounciation of biboo's name was what bae's mentioned during her debut. The one where the "bijou" sounds like 90's laser shooting sound.
@@majesticfoxBIEEJOW BEEJOW
I think most of us dropped Bijou within a week. Biboo just feels right.
BIJOE
Bejo
I think Nerissa started calling her that on stream in their very first group collab lol
As someone who still always calls her Bijou, I feel like I'm part of some group archiving the past.
Nobody remembers Ayumu Kasuga.
Everyone calls her Osaka or Osaka-san
Meanwhile kaela : Bejoe
Meanwhile Jeep : Looks away
Koseki Bijou is a senpai.
Biboo, however, is a baby.
Unless you are Hakos Baelzu of course.
Biboo makes more sense and it's easier to say, just like calling Baelz by Bae. And it's cuter, which is a plus.
In Bae's case, it helps that no one knows her name is pronounced "bells".
Ah, so that’s how you pronounce it
@@GoodOleDFTeven poor manager dunno her name 💀
@@GoodOleDFT Nobody remembers how to pronounce her last name either, which should be "Hay-cos" instead of "Hah-koes"
@@dragoxphere3341
Oh, good to know I've been instinctively pronouncing it right.
Might be because I'm ESL.
Biboo, bae, ina; pretty much every gen has a member who's actual name is never used in favor of a shorter or cuter version
ina's was practically official, especially with the original intro being "ina ina ina"
I guess cc is the closest for justice
whose*
for myth, i would say it would be Ame. AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Calli and ame too !!
**"Everyone else normalize Biboo"**
"Bae on the corner with menacing Dragon heat aura"
The funny thing is even though Biboo sounds cuter I’m still glad that her official name is Bijou.
It makes her nickname feel more endearing in a way that it wouldn’t if it was just her regular name.
Biboo for calling her name affectionately, Bijou for the coolnest that she is.
The fact that they need to name their coworkers with their government name, proof how serious they must take being a Hololive Idol as a professional work.
serious answer, it's mainly for copyright/trademark and merchandise. it's fine to call Biboo as a nickname but for official stuff it's really important to keep using Bijou
They might be encouraged to use their vtuber names even irl so they will never slip accidentally in streams.
@@mykellederickpalad7883possible, but even flesh streamers often call each other by their stream names off-stream. here's a few examples:
- nobody in otk or mythic calls mizkif "matthew" or even "matt" on-stream. he's just known as "mizkif" or just "miz", even tho his real name is very much public knowledge.
- esfand likewise is only really known as "esfand" in otk. i've never once heard a fellow otk member call him "tim".
- pokimane is only really called "pokimane" or just "poki" by people who know her. she at this point responds to that better than her real name "imane".
- iirc heyimbee has straight up stated she almost doesn't recognize her real name "bianca" bc she spent so much time in vrchat with everyone just calling her "bee". swaggersouls got to a similar point himself with his real name "eric", bc everyone just knew him as "swagger". (i think a few of the other misfits members even said they straight up forgot his real first name.)
for some indie vtuber examples, numi, bao, and yuzu don't even really know each other by their real names, only their internet names, despite being close friends. they've even (half-jokingly) admitted this on-stream to be a potential source of future awkwardness as they get older and retire from content creation.
it's worse among vtubers (and especially corpo vtubers), but it's not unique to them and certainly not unique to hololive.
@@shadow7179hololive would be able to use "biboo" as an alternate trademark. to cite an indie example, akuma nihmune uses both "akuma nihmune" and "numi" in her official branding interchangeably. it's a bit more awkward, but hololive very much could get away with it from a legal perspective.
now, from a social perspective, japanese media is far less likely than western media to use informal nicknames for themselves in marketing. the west's entertainment business culture is a lot more casual than japan's entertainment business culture, and it shows even in how hololive's vtubers themselves communicate to their fan bases.
Pretty sure Biboo herself is starting to become unfamiliar with the name Bijou
starting? she's been doing double takes for over a year any time she hears "bijou" 😂
this point, a third of the jp girls are calling her biboo
Ah yes Koseki Biboo Bijou
0:45 that „Apropos Bibou“ is such a german thing to say, I love it xD
In Poland this is popular too. And it's actually "à propos". It's French if I am not wrong.
@@Valius_V that‘s true, but the german version is „apropos“
@@playerone198 As another Pole, I can confirm, we regularly use "à propos" (we pronounce it as almost one word "apropo" without saying the ending "s", so exactly as CC said too). At first, I did not notice CC said it (English use "by the way"), but when you indicated it, I came back to that clip, and yes, it was there. Unique thing for Hololive!
00:45 CC said "Apropos Biboo" it's a term from French meaning 'speaking of'
Also 1:18 “Everyone in EN”
yeah, germans use apropos alot
i stopped using a propos because i learned english. "speaking of" popping out in my mind way faster so im trying to translate it literally to other languages.
We use it in Swedish too. Different spelling and slightly different pronounciation, but still.
In italy we say "a proposito"
*Bijou-senpai*
Let that sink in.
Here's a reminder that Biboo is now senpai to three generations of kouhais (ReGLOSS, Justice, FLOW GLOW)
Bijou just doesn't feel right anymore, calling her Biboo hits completely different. Unless its Bae where she calls her Koseki Bijou
bae's become too japanese 😂
@@NeuronActivation neuron activation: beating women? Is for queers. I'll have my way with them in stead
Name guide for new and JP Staffs.
Watson Amelia = Ame
Ninomae Ina'nis = Ina
Mori Calliope = Calli
Koseki Bijou = Biboo
Cecelia Immergreen = Cece
Elizabeth Rose Bloodflame = Liz
Hakos Baelz = Bae
Elizabeth Rose Bloodflame = ERB
FTFY
@@cirmothe9tbf you see both equally often
It is me or Calli is more frequently calling by "Mori" instead lf Calli nowadays?
She does present herself as "Your Mori" @@Valius_V
1:26 could be worse. half of jp doesn't know bae's official name even tho she collabs with them all the time. and those who do often forget how to spell it. they know her only as "bae" and "hakotoro"
i mean they know her as Hakotaro because of Hakos so they know that part at least.
Biboo is such a good nickname it just feels right.
Sometimes I will literally forget Bijou is her actual name and Biboo is the nickname
everyone call her "koseki bijou" at this point she will be scared and ask "did i do something wrong you called me by my official name?"
ofc except you're hakoz baelzu.
I really want in a future generation of hololive/stars to have a clearly autistic guy who calls everyone by their full name, no "callis" or "baes" just Callopie Moria and Hakos Bealz every time they speaks
Biboo sounds a lot catchier than Bijou, and suits her childish personality. Note how the only ones that challenge this simplification are Kaela and Bae, and they push it as a bit.
kaela's name isn't shortened tho?
@@dead-claudia I mean as in she doesn't simplify Biboo's name all the time. Sometimes she says "Bijou" as a bit.
Bijou for the *Kosexy Bijou*
you know that terrifying sensation when someone call you by your fullname. You know you are in trouble. Her normal name give that vibes now
I think it's hilarious that the only one who uses Biboo's actual name is Bae
even much of holo jp calls her "biboo" now lol
when Bae says it, it feels right lmao
its because they made a pact that because they are the two members who were never called by their real name basically from the start that they will only use their full names with each other.
Pebbles: I don't even remember which one is her real name anymore.
I'm probably one of the only pebbles who prefer Bijou
Whenever I hear Bijou my brain automatically just goes to Naruto
The only people who don't call her Biboo are Keala who calls her BEEJOE, and Bae who calls her Koseki Bijou (and in return, Biboo is the only one to call Bae Baelz).
And many JP senpais. Also I think Gura still calls her Bijou?
@@this.is.kmost of jp still calls her bijou iirc
used to be unanimous until this most recent hologta of course, where the jp girls picked up that all the en girls almost exclusively call her biboo
@@dead-claudia Fubuki is really the main one to really start calling her Biboo. Mainly from coming to rescue her when she flew off her motorcycle like 4 times
I think someone from ReGLOSS (Ririka I think?) started calling her Biboo-senpai even before holoGTA but I'm not entirely sure
Bijou? Hey guys, “ _Bijou_ ”! Well la-dee-da Ms. French woman. 🇫🇷🥖
Koseki biwho?
i feel like biboo happened within 24 hours of her debut and i have spent more time referring to her as biboo than bijou
I think I'm the only person who calls her Bijou instead of Bijyuu
It's weird that staff thinks it's weird.
BEEEEEEEJOEEEEEEE
Staff should throw in the towel already, even Biboo herself has said that sometimes she doesn't recognize her own name right away when people call her by it instead of Biboo =)
I mean, her name is Biboo. Kouseki Bijou is simply the name Hakos Baelzu calls her by.
Bae calls her Bijou
Noooo.. HAKOS BAEEEELZZUU calls her Koseki Bijou.. Though with her accent it sounds more like Kohseki Bijuu or Bijo-u
Cowseki Bearjoos
Bijou who?
Who's Koseki Bijou? I only know Biboo
Who's this Bijou you're talking about?
I only know Biboo & Beejoe.
Who's Bijou?
Who is that Bijou you keep talking about
She said everyone in EN not everyone in the end
Bijou is a much nicer name. Wish the name wasn't dropped and so quickly too.
Why would they call them by full official names, they are silly fake character names that are hard to say out loud. There’s no way they actually say “Miss Calliope Mori” or “Miss Ina’nis Ninomai” instead Of just Ina Or Mori
merchandising mainly, no joke
because Japanese company and uptight management that is totally disconnected from the people who actually make the money.
I think it would depend on who's at the meeting.
It's a nickname only. For official stuff, they have to use her real name bruh
Welcome to Japanese mannerisms, tourist.
Bijous better anyway. Its a shame that people forced the nickname.
Advent came up with the name even before debut and she prefers it too. Who's forcing it exactly?
She literally forced everyone to use her nickname on her debut
@@kusog3 she corrected people plenty of time at the start.
Why do you act like Biboo is completely innocent and had it forced upon her? She's the one circulating it. Ffs she dubbed it "biboo tax" and such.
Biboo herself circulated it, she's a memetic
Who's Bijou?