This video could probably have done with a sort of timeline graphic, the various models get confusing easily. Nonetheless, interesting stuff. Thank you to TE team
I had made a comment about a year ago, saying they should give individual playlists for every country featured and their armored vehicles respectively. I love the content and the history provided, but in my opinion, a small amount of effort organizing the videos would make a great deal of improvement for the current subscribers and future subscribers who are looking for information on “that one tank” in whatever nation it happens to belong to. Edit: They actually listened, three days ago they made playlists for the individual countries. Someone at TE saw this. Whoever you are, you’re an absolute legend for taking this into consideration. Thank you very very much. From me and most likely many other current and future subscribers.
Songung-Ho is a name that rolls off the tongue so well. I don't know what it is about it and the Popkung and Chonmna-Ho tanks, but calling your shit Pegasus and Chariot is so badass. Lesser communist states would be tempted to name their shit after high ranking party members.
The thing i always wondered with North Korean made tanks is, have they ever performed a modification on the Soviet-style tanks they made to perform better in mountainous terrain? Because Korean peninsula have a mountainous terrain, and i feel that Soviet T-series tanks will not perform well in that kind of terrain, mostly due to the little gun depression, and the lack of hydropneumatic suspension like the ones found on South Korea or Japanese MBTs.
I don't think we know the gun elevation/depression specs (elevation can be as important as depression in mountainous areas) but the video does mention the turrets are a little taller than russian designs which could potentially allow for it; we just don't know though.
Watching the North Korean Army propaganda video covering the training and infantry using AKMs 7,62mm with everything in these guns worn to death then rebuild on used parts and then three times repeted this cycles. Like the black blue finish turned into polished to shine only because of extensive use fo last 60-70 years. Soldiers shooting from the trenches in the WW2 tactics style. All filming totaly staged so every soldier had like 2 rounds in the AKM mag and the PKT opetator had empty belt with three rounds ready to fire this burst and film it only. And all the "hard training" done. Yeah half the PKTs dod not cycled the 3rounds. But the parade training literally takes the shape of so extensive preparations that marching woman had to continue even after got injured because of the overloading with hours of constant strain of innatural marching "style" (which I found only in India Pakistan, Iran and Russia) I think the lack of depression or the hydropneumatics in the suspenssion of these tanks is their last problem. Having the tank running, with full tanks of fuel and ammo racks with the ammo that will not fail to ignite because of its age. These are the NK Army challenges!
@@HanSolo__ “soldiers shooting from trenches ww2 style” what’s wrong with that? Do you expect them to step out of the trench? Cover won’t be obsolete for quite some time I’m afraid.
Yes finally more videos on North Korean vehicles i honestly think the best videos are the ones about lesser known vehicles like Italian tanks from WW2 or Hungarian or Japanese etc, etc
Chonma-216 is confirmed to have 2A46 because of fact that North Korea tested new ATGM against it and upclose images were taken, North Korea themselves published those images in a news report. Mounting cavity is exactly same as on T-72 hence 2A46.
Putting manpads on tanks is unironically the funniest shit I've ever seen, even if their latest mountings allow for operating them inside the tank. Manpads is not in anyway offense-oriented, and you need to see air targets before you can lock on and fire, and visibility isn't exactly what a tank is known for. That said, they might have valid reasons to do this, e.g. if I have limited production capacities for APC's that can carry this sort of AA gear I might consider putting them on tanks out of desperation.
The DPRK has acquired around 75 T-72 Ms from various sources in the 2000s , they were going to produce a copy of the tank but the poor performance of the tank during the gulf war stopped that, the DPRKs military intelligence has been acquiring data on the T-90 and type 99a as well as south Korean K-1 and K-2 . The DPRKs military industrial complex has been under going modernisation in the past few years , production of the Mig-29S started last year . There are plenty of people who work in the Russian military industries who still support Socialism and supply data to Socialist countries like P.R.C and the DPRK.
Fact: some believe that the M2020 tank models we saw recently is actually a deeply revised design - both in its appearance and internal technologies - of Songun-Ho, combined with import technologies from China and Iran.
@@MrTangolizard *not even that* they are worse most of DPRK tanks are t62/64 based but with a 125mm gun, these cant even fire ATGM (unlike every t72), as they literally bolt launchers to the sides of the turrets. the recent tanks likely build on that, but we do not no exactly how, they clearly have better optics, armor and design but in all likelihood retain a t-60 series hull with at best a refitted, or new turret.
SO UH...one note, Chonma 215, 216, and Songun did NOT use smaller roadwheels, that was a mistake I made back in the day as well, they are identical to regular T-62s but because of the layout changing and the hull being slightly lengthened they could afford to just barely squeeze a 6th wheel in in fact the T-72 wheel is only SLIGHTLY smaller than that of T-34/55/62 series, and in fact at some factories and repair shops they often use old T-55 wheels with the rubber shaved down a bit to transport the tanks around as to not damage/wear out new T-72 ones anyways, Overall Great work! EDIT: One other thing, I do actually believe the Norks saying the songun has Composite, there are OBVIOUS weld lines conveniently around the "cheeks" of the turret, which could be exactly where it is installed, and if thats the case it could also explain another reason for the turret being "taller" as to move all the gear back so the Composite could fit
@@derekhenschel3191 *What do you mean "Source"? Its not like I'm getting any of the Stats from the Norks directly, its just guessing by observing like everyone else*
you can spamming Grenade launcher to light vehicle, shoot the choppy boy with manpads and some kind of Jets, and shoot atgm, kinda funny but only in war thunder i hope gaijin added this vehicle
Not only that, but some of the only MBT tanks with mounted anti-air missiles. It's just a couple manpads fixed to the turret and probably only marginally useful against helicopters but interesting nonetheless
Producing tanks is a lot easier when you have a massive pool of borderline slaves and see no need to give the population anything but the bare minimum needed to survive in the best case scenario. Most countries on the planet could produce tanks if they wanted to, they just choose not to because it's a lot easier to just buy them, something NK can't and probably doesn't want to do.
The Songun Ho always makes me think that there was actually some Chinese influence on the Korean design, the overall shape of the hull, and especially from a side view, is quite similar to that of the ZTZ-96 series, with a gradual slope towards the engine deck, as opposed to the Western "hump" type of engine deck or Soviet flat style.
With help from Iran the DPRK may have modern armored vehicles. North Korea's possible extensive underground weapons factories maybe able to produce very effective armored weapons systems. Including mobile artilery and MLRS(220mm) type vehicles. This is 1990's early 2000's information friend.
DPRK helped us when no other nation would even sell us barbed wire to defend our country during the 8 year imposed war. The least we can do is help them back
I doubt the inclusion of ATGM's is for improved penetration as compared to the main gun. It's far more likely that the ATGM's are to compensate for a lack of accuracy at longer ranges, indicating drawbacks of the primitive fire control systems that North Korea has available.
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You doing something so very very wrong when you have to get Soviet / Russian tanks as battlefield damaged captured specimens, from 3rd party, instead directly from the source. XD
If only they embedded pictures of a smiling Jong Un within the layers of cast plate in the turrets. Any projectiles that penetrate the first layer would feel shame for damaging a picture of the glorious leader and fly back to kill their owner.
It was pointed out to me that they used a highly reinforced the T-55 suspension, which does make sense considering the mountainous terrain of the nation.
@@exploringtheplanetsn That's not all, those are T-80Us, with the modernization they're better T-80s than most of the ones Russia themselves have, which makes it even more hilarious.
Based on yankie video, Brazil uses old German things like 1A2 leopards, and they don't even try to improve them, even so, I don't see any yankie making a video about it, it seems that the criteria is to be aligned with the USA lol, even if Popular Korea has better quality of life than 70% of capitalist countries, former colonies in the center of capitalism.
18:35 Exercises of crossing the frozen river by the tank equipped with a snorkel ask for an absurdly high probability of drowning the crew if the ice gets too thick in any deeper part of the river. By the look of the quality, this tank was constructed (pieces for parade!!!!) one can be sure it will fall apart without being hit.
This video could probably have done with a sort of timeline graphic, the various models get confusing easily. Nonetheless, interesting stuff. Thank you to TE team
They're bassically same bucket let's be real 😁😊
Nice comennt btw, consrructive one
I had made a comment about a year ago, saying they should give individual playlists for every country featured and their armored vehicles respectively. I love the content and the history provided, but in my opinion, a small amount of effort organizing the videos would make a great deal of improvement for the current subscribers and future subscribers who are looking for information on “that one tank” in whatever nation it happens to belong to. Edit: They actually listened, three days ago they made playlists for the individual countries. Someone at TE saw this. Whoever you are, you’re an absolute legend for taking this into consideration. Thank you very very much. From me and most likely many other current and future subscribers.
@@tunder975 true, but it'll still be cool to see.
@@iwantcrawfish6110 yep
Songung-Ho is a name that rolls off the tongue so well. I don't know what it is about it and the Popkung and Chonmna-Ho tanks, but calling your shit Pegasus and Chariot is so badass. Lesser communist states would be tempted to name their shit after high ranking party members.
Or even the current president “cough” Vladimir “cough”
@@robland3253 it's named after its chief designer
@@robland3253 russia isn't communist
Yugoslavia: You know that prototype tank we are building and designing? Let's name it Whirlwind.
The thing i always wondered with North Korean made tanks is, have they ever performed a modification on the Soviet-style tanks they made to perform better in mountainous terrain?
Because Korean peninsula have a mountainous terrain, and i feel that Soviet T-series tanks will not perform well in that kind of terrain, mostly due to the little gun depression, and the lack of hydropneumatic suspension like the ones found on South Korea or Japanese MBTs.
I don't think we know the gun elevation/depression specs (elevation can be as important as depression in mountainous areas) but the video does mention the turrets are a little taller than russian designs which could potentially allow for it; we just don't know though.
Watching the North Korean Army propaganda video covering the training and infantry using AKMs 7,62mm with everything in these guns worn to death then rebuild on used parts and then three times repeted this cycles. Like the black blue finish turned into polished to shine only because of extensive use fo last 60-70 years. Soldiers shooting from the trenches in the WW2 tactics style. All filming totaly staged so every soldier had like 2 rounds in the AKM mag and the PKT opetator had empty belt with three rounds ready to fire this burst and film it only. And all the "hard training" done. Yeah half the PKTs dod not cycled the 3rounds. But the parade training literally takes the shape of so extensive preparations that marching woman had to continue even after got injured because of the overloading with hours of constant strain of innatural marching "style" (which I found only in India Pakistan, Iran and Russia)
I think the lack of depression or the hydropneumatics in the suspenssion of these tanks is their last problem. Having the tank running, with full tanks of fuel and ammo racks with the ammo that will not fail to ignite because of its age. These are the NK Army challenges!
@@HanSolo__ “soldiers shooting from trenches ww2 style” what’s wrong with that? Do you expect them to step out of the trench? Cover won’t be obsolete for quite some time I’m afraid.
At the very least they can manufacture their own MBT.
Food for the crew ?, eh not so much .
Yes finally more videos on North Korean vehicles i honestly think the best videos are the ones about lesser known vehicles like Italian tanks from WW2 or Hungarian or Japanese etc, etc
Ah yes... The Chonma-Ho. A pain in the ass especially if it were deployed in massive number in War game:Red Dragon
red dragon armor spam go brrrrrrrrr
That awkward moment when your closest ally gave a more advanced warmachine to your rival neighbor than you.
I lire how they cut à hole in the front turret appliquee armor for the driver head.
would that mean that an unbuttoned driver would lose his head if the turret traversed?
I laughed when you mentioned the konkurs missile. Just by chance that is the swedish word for bankruptcy.
Chonma-216 is confirmed to have 2A46 because of fact that North Korea tested new ATGM against it and upclose images were taken, North Korea themselves published those images in a news report. Mounting cavity is exactly same as on T-72 hence 2A46.
So the poor guy inside has to load projectile and propellant separately?
@@KorianHUNIts 💯% doable in T-72 and is in fact easier than single piece shell.
and btw this tank is good for warthunder
you can shoot the choppy boy with HMG or manpads
I always wanted a Chonma-Ho with a KPVT it would be a 14mm middle finger to alouettes and cobras
you won't know how good it is until NLAW goes boom.....
These things are death traps
jokes on you those nlaws cost more then half of vehicles in a north Korean mechanized division
great stuff👍🤝
North Korea has Armata tanks too!
20:54 Is the Bender (Futurama) Sorry but thats what i see the tanks as
Putting manpads on tanks is unironically the funniest shit I've ever seen, even if their latest mountings allow for operating them inside the tank. Manpads is not in anyway offense-oriented, and you need to see air targets before you can lock on and fire, and visibility isn't exactly what a tank is known for. That said, they might have valid reasons to do this, e.g. if I have limited production capacities for APC's that can carry this sort of AA gear I might consider putting them on tanks out of desperation.
NorthKorea using tank with infantry support around it. The AA is there for infantry to use actually
5 dislikes from worst Korea citizens
The DPRK has acquired around 75 T-72 Ms from various sources in the 2000s , they were going to produce a copy of the tank but the poor performance of the tank during the gulf war stopped that, the DPRKs military intelligence has been acquiring data on the T-90 and type 99a as well as south Korean K-1 and K-2 . The DPRKs military industrial complex has been under going modernisation in the past few years , production of the Mig-29S started last year . There are plenty of people who work in the Russian military industries who still support Socialism and supply data to Socialist countries like P.R.C and the DPRK.
Source?
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT Trust me bro I'm a professional
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT it came to me in a dream
you dont read so many bullshit all together in a single post very often
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT I made it the fuck up.
The SAM is only mounted during actual war conditions.. to preserve the components..
DPRK MBT's have little bubble cutouts in the turret for the drivers head?
Try the Challenget hull cutout.
I would feel so sorry for those crews if they ever face a K2
lol relic
If the Ukrainian conflict continues much longer they will be more modern than the Russian army MBTs 🤣🤣🤣
Who is waiting to see these used in Russia?
this tank is likely worse than the ruski t-72, NK cant afford to actually build tanks.
Propaganda no.1
Fact: some believe that the M2020 tank models we saw recently is actually a deeply revised design - both in its appearance and internal technologies - of Songun-Ho, combined with import technologies from China and Iran.
how is it a fact when you're saying people believe something to be true
@@e.m.8184 as far as I can tell they were saying it's a fact that some people believe it
@@e.m.8184 The fact is that people belive it.
It’s nothing more that a rehash of a t72
@@MrTangolizard *not even that* they are worse
most of DPRK tanks are t62/64 based but with a 125mm gun, these cant even fire ATGM (unlike every t72), as they literally bolt launchers to the sides of the turrets.
the recent tanks likely build on that, but we do not no exactly how, they clearly have better optics, armor and design but in all likelihood retain a t-60 series hull with at best a refitted, or new turret.
SO UH...one note, Chonma 215, 216, and Songun did NOT use smaller roadwheels, that was a mistake I made back in the day as well, they are identical to regular T-62s but because of the layout changing and the hull being slightly lengthened they could afford to just barely squeeze a 6th wheel in
in fact the T-72 wheel is only SLIGHTLY smaller than that of T-34/55/62 series, and in fact at some factories and repair shops they often use old T-55 wheels with the rubber shaved down a bit to transport the tanks around as to not damage/wear out new T-72 ones
anyways, Overall Great work!
EDIT: One other thing, I do actually believe the Norks saying the songun has Composite, there are OBVIOUS weld lines conveniently around the "cheeks" of the turret, which could be exactly where it is installed, and if thats the case it could also explain another reason for the turret being "taller" as to move all the gear back so the Composite could fit
Source?
@@derekhenschel3191 ua-cam.com/video/r7l0Rq9E8MY/v-deo.html
Sorry I just had to, this fits this too well :'D
@@derekhenschel3191 *What do you mean "Source"? Its not like I'm getting any of the Stats from the Norks directly, its just guessing by observing like everyone else*
@@derekhenschel3191 ugh
you can spamming Grenade launcher to light vehicle, shoot the choppy boy with manpads and some kind of Jets, and shoot atgm, kinda funny but only in war thunder
i hope gaijin added this vehicle
If they add a North korean tech tree I might consider to start playing that shit game again
@@aymanayad7230 lol you just quit already
They were able to produce tanks. That is impressive
Not only that, but some of the only MBT tanks with mounted anti-air missiles. It's just a couple manpads fixed to the turret and probably only marginally useful against helicopters but interesting nonetheless
Not really. I'm guessing in real situation, NK tanks will be a laughing stock, just like the russian ones are currently.
Producing tanks is a lot easier when you have a massive pool of borderline slaves and see no need to give the population anything but the bare minimum needed to survive in the best case scenario. Most countries on the planet could produce tanks if they wanted to, they just choose not to because it's a lot easier to just buy them, something NK can't and probably doesn't want to do.
@@HandleMyBallsUA-cam Tank manufacturing needs so much more than just manpower.
I wouldn't put much stock in them. We don't know just how capable these tanks are. For all we know, these tanks could just be a skeleton mock up.
The Songun Ho always makes me think that there was actually some Chinese influence on the Korean design, the overall shape of the hull, and especially from a side view, is quite similar to that of the ZTZ-96 series, with a gradual slope towards the engine deck, as opposed to the Western "hump" type of engine deck or Soviet flat style.
With help from Iran the DPRK may have modern armored vehicles.
North Korea's possible extensive underground weapons factories maybe able to produce very effective armored weapons systems. Including mobile artilery and MLRS(220mm) type vehicles.
This is 1990's early 2000's information friend.
Source?
DPRK helped us when no other nation would even sell us barbed wire to defend our country during the 8 year imposed war. The least we can do is help them back
I doubt the inclusion of ATGM's is for improved penetration as compared to the main gun. It's far more likely that the ATGM's are to compensate for a lack of accuracy at longer ranges, indicating drawbacks of the primitive fire control systems that North Korea has available.
ATGMs fired out of soviet tanks offered more pen than their main gun, its safe to assume the same for NK ones
Now let’s make a video of South Korean tanks too! :)
16:59 video was great as I love North Korean weapons but when the Half Life 2 music started this became a legendary video.
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Is that hl2 ambient music I hear in the background?
6:29 rice😂
The best T-62 of world but in wrong era
You doing something so very very wrong when you have to get Soviet / Russian tanks as battlefield damaged captured specimens, from 3rd party, instead directly from the source. XD
half life ost
Your awesome and awesome video be safe out there big fan of tanks
Thank you, we are also big fans of tanks!
@@TanksEncyclopediaYT your very welcome yes I am 😎👍
Uhhh…. It’s literally a T62 with random shit welded on..
Ways to identify that, look at the top right side of the turret. What do you see?
This tank is for use practice target jobelyn missile.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow, that's a lot of exterior guns & missiles on that last turret... looks more like an anime tank...
the last tanks "M2020" seems fishy....
Can't someone just ask the North Korean detectors what are the names and designations of the tanks they use in the NK Army?
HL soundtrack.
u shouldve named ur channel Tanklopedia
The thumbnail may have been better worded?
hmmm, so Russia, China, Iran ....oops nothing? hehehe
NK are so obssessed on tanks and missile that they literally left their airforce and navy as ancients
No, they are just unable to do anything. How can they buy those things and they certainly can't build them
They know if it goes down to war they have no chance aganst the us in the air or sea
See T-55 Typhoon
Excellent video, very well produced and informative 👌. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
If only they embedded pictures of a smiling Jong Un within the layers of cast plate in the turrets. Any projectiles that penetrate the first layer would feel shame for damaging a picture of the glorious leader and fly back to kill their owner.
It was pointed out to me that they used a highly reinforced the T-55 suspension, which does make sense considering the mountainous terrain of the nation.
They do not need battle tank. they need grains, fruits, oats, vegetables, meat and shrimp.
I can imagine that tank being known as the Sunken Ho. Would be interesting to pit those against Russian tanks.
the hull really reminds me of those modern Chinese tanks
so does the Songun-Ho, use 2 piece ammunition or one piece?
Isn't the m2020 based on an Iranian tank?
Probably not
Remember South Korea has more modern Russian mbt’s then the north does
What? South Korea has Next Generation K2 Black Panther Main Battle Tank...
@@deloughi1887 South Korea has something like 50 t-80’s
@@exploringtheplanetsn For what, target practice?
@@deloughi1887 no they were given to them from russia along with bmp-3s as debt repayment
@@exploringtheplanetsn That's not all, those are T-80Us, with the modernization they're better T-80s than most of the ones Russia themselves have, which makes it even more hilarious.
Based on yankie video, Brazil uses old German things like 1A2 leopards, and they don't even try to improve them, even so, I don't see any yankie making a video about it, it seems that the criteria is to be aligned with the USA lol, even if Popular Korea has better quality of life than 70% of capitalist countries, former colonies in the center of capitalism.
well thanks for information from this hermit kingdom
Amazing analysis. Are you Greec? Greetings from Tunisia. Long live the Mediterranean world my friend.
18:35 Exercises of crossing the frozen river by the tank equipped with a snorkel ask for an absurdly high probability of drowning the crew if the ice gets too thick in any deeper part of the river. By the look of the quality, this tank was constructed (pieces for parade!!!!) one can be sure it will fall apart without being hit.
You wish.