Thank you to you both for this info. I've been wanting to build a very light pop-up camper that I can tow with a small car. (BMW328d, 280 lbft torq) If I can get an aluminum trailer base made, using techniques learned from these videos, I should be able to make a unit that is strong and ultra light! I'm not using paper bags, rather a fine cloth and then painted. Cabinet doors: foam & maple veneer!
I'm wondering if you considered applying the screen first to the entire panel before cutting and assembly. Then, once assembled, apply the screen to the seams. I would think it would be easier to do the entire panel rather than the individual surfaces.
I’m a crawlspace contractor. My biggest mistake was using That silver stuff (Refex?) on the walls . After three years it decays. I owed three homes new walls.
This is ingenious. My daughter loves to build things, buts she's a little small for power tools. We are going to build an art table for her out of this. It's basically a similar construction to a surfboard....seems like it would be quite strong.
It is very strong! If you put polyethylene on it at the end like I did, make sure to air it outside to offgas for many days before putting it in her room.
Years ago, I scored a free sample of a wooden-backed paint sample card, except this one was for a mirror effect. I nabbed it to use as an emergency signal mirror.
Great video. Thank you for keeping it real and explaining your mistakes. That's how you learn and it helps all of us. I have a 2005 white E-350 that I am about to start building. Your van is very similar which makes your videos that much more compelling. I wonder if you will do a video where you recap how your build is working out, what you would change (or have changed) and what you got exactly right. Keep up the good work!
They do work, but they don't give a very smooth edge when cutting closed cell foam, such as what was being used here. We cut a very similar closed cell foam, called EVA, at my work, with the use of a foam saw. Our saws have finer blades, but they still give a slightly rough edge. I've used a flat blade, for a neater job, but it needs lubrication with silicone spray (or similar), to prevent the foam from grabbing the blade. I haven't tried a hot wire, or hot knife, yet. Apparently they do a great job.
Canvas instead of the bug net works well too Also for the food storage area instead of going thinner, I would have doubled up its thickness. Even if you are using a powered fridge, if you keep the heat away from the outside of the fridge, it saves battery power because the fridge does not have to work as hard to stay cool.
@@zhkopec I used razor blades for ten years, then watched some house siding guys installing foam board using a table saw to rip it so I tried it and laughed at how much time I saved.
@@zhkopec If you want to keep doing it by hand, you can try a kitchen knife. The long ones for cutting bread, with the wavy cut blade, are great esp. for softer foam. Also if you go down the cutter knife route: try those black TAJIMA RAZAR blades. Those are the best blades you can find, really really sharp!
Interesting application of the composite core concept. I wonder if epoxy resin and fiberglass would work with this idea. Although, the humidity in Florida might be a problem.
build carcass for cabinets out of pvc pipe, you can drill holes thru it to attach front, sides, and top and to attach it to walls of van and it's light weight...get the thick walled pvc to make it sturdy.
I think you made your self work harder cause you could pre prep your foam piece with screen and the corners and seams could be done with small strips to finish! Or at least do the inside then after assembly screen wrap outside!
zhkopec i read that in your description....;) Im going to remodel my van a bit and have been eyeing those inserts to put in my van if i have room. If i do ill glue the heck out of them.
How about using the white craft foam, it comes in several thicknesses and might be a little more stable, I would still skin it the same way with the screen, and use craft board in the joints to make it stronger. Great video's and idea's, thank you for sharing your gift's!
As soon as I saw that mountain in the background at that WalMart...I knew you weren't in Fla. any longer ! I enjoyed your video... Liked and Subscribed !
should have build the foam pieces first completely and used 1x1 wood where it was to thin then put it all together using glue and drywall anchors to set the screws as they would hold much better then a screw by its self that's my plan at least thank for the video definitely gives inspiration
Thanks for the content Kopec. I am yet to see any long term evidence of this type of construction lasting the test of time. Particular in a mobile application. A much better option, if choosing to make your own composite material is to use high density polyurethane foam with fibreglass layers. One of the issues with your method of construction is the lack of strength where the panels meet. As with the fibreglass method, the outer material cannot conform to a 45 degree angle. For this reason a resin filler needs to be used to "round" out the joines thus allowing the outer material to effectively bond with the surfaces. Cheers
Being you mentioned you were in FLA how do ya keep your van cool. I'm in Charleston SC and work nights. I'd be sleeping during the day. Summer here can get humid and hot. Suggestions? BTW I don't have a van as of yet. Looking for a hi-top extended van.
Been there done that! Ac window unit mounted between front and back of van in wall. Open windows in front so heat escapes.used a generator harbor freight to power.Pay attention to direction wind blowing outside. C.o.monitor inside area. Run Generator outside. Chain to non movable object.
Thanks for making this really interesting video. Personally, I would have made a proper wooden frame, rather than just using blocks for the hinges to attach too. I also probably would laminate the entire structure with thin plywood or something similar, for added strength, while not adding too much extra weight. 8:15 It's good to hear someone talking sense, for once. There's a YT channel for some company that does polyurethane floor coatings. They weren't wearing masks, while coating the floor. They claimed their product isn't toxic, because it's made from natural products. -That doesn't mean anything, because so is cyanide! Anyway, the MSDS sheets for the polyurethane hardener actually says to wear a respirator etc. because it's toxic. I actually sell polyurethane foam (mattress foam). The main ingredients are water and petrochemicals, so they have to wear respirators, gloves, protective eye-wear etc. in the factory, where it's made.
Gorilla glue is water activated. It normally cures via water in the materials (wood for example) or via atmospheric humidity. By sealing it between two pieces of totally dry foam and isolating it from the atmosphere, you've drastically reduced its ability to cure. You've weakened it substantially from what it could be.
zhkopec so why not mention that at all in your videos? What ratio of water to glue did you use? Hot or cold? Did you test the joint strength? When you destroyed the cabinet, what broke, foam or joints?
Fair enough, must have slipped through the cracks in filming. I wet the surfaces with a damp rag, room temp. On the channel there's a video of testing the strength and you can see stress points due to my design were the weakest link.
pretty unique! I like the idea with the paper patches. But one question: why don`t you just use glas fibres & resin as Coat? It will be way more durable than the primer you have used.
Off-gassing can go on for years. Just a hot tip there. If it off-gasses, I personally would not use it. There is a brand of birch wood that is pure and does not off-gas. It does weigh more but heck.. that's ok. It's better than taking chances with toxic materials that off-gas.
I did an initial layer, stuck the fiberglass mesh to it, then covered it with the paint. Another layer after that may provide even more strength but the paint is mostly there just to hold on the mesh for tensile strength. I ended up trashing the long cabinet because my structural design was too flimsy. You can check it out in this vid ua-cam.com/video/cB3PiPaPO_I/v-deo.html
Would it be possible/reasonable to make the cabinet doors out of foam too? How strong is this stuff ultimately? Could you build a bed frame out of it, or is it mostly just useful for containing light-weight things?
It's surprisingly strong, but a bed frame might be a little too much for it. I store about 30 lbs of weight in the tall cabinet now. I did a armature stress test on the material in this vid ua-cam.com/video/cB3PiPaPO_I/v-deo.html
zhkopec Thanks! That clears up a lot. I'm working on designing/building an ultra-light tiny house on an old RV trailer so it could be towed by most SUVs instead of requiring a special tow vehicle, and I'm finding van conversions to be my best friends in terms of unconventional construction techniques!
That sounds awesome. Would love to see some vids of it when you're done. I think for beds / chairs wood still may be the way to go. I saw IntoTheMystery13 make a bed frame out of PVC pipe, which is light. I went with wood frame so I could have it pull out into a fullsize. There's a vid for that with plan designs on the channel.
zhkopec I saw that! I'm pulling together bits and pieces from a wide variety of really clever designs, and am trying hard to balance the different concerns against each other! One other question about this build: Why not make the doors out of foam too? Is there some reason that wouldn't work well?
Shellac is a great alternative to polyurethane. It's a natural durable resin made from beetle dung. (Woohoo, no cancer!) Great job on the build, keep it up👉👉
deprogramming life Hawkins Good thinking. I did have the plan to either cut out a wood top or vynal for better counter top. It depends on what finishing you coat it in. Might adhere better if you don't finish the top with clear coat.
Lighter the rig the more efficient. I am looking into electric wheel motors with ultra super Capacitors charged through regeneration and solar. Backed up with a 6hp diesel generator.
Just go buy yourself the same rigid foam used to build boats. light, and it already has the strength. No need for all of these steps and materials. You can use Fiberglass tape at the seams to put the cabinet together (Easy stuff) and then apply the wood veneers to it to create professional construction.
Hey Jed, I made two cabinets and one is doing great. The other one I built incorrectly so I made a video about strength testing it by destroying it and lighting it on fire. haha
Was watching both videos and caught the issue for the first set of cabinets. In the corners, and seams you need to use gorilla or wood glue for strength. The Glidden paint is for smoother surface areas or top coats. I believe that's why the warping occurred.
Ty both for posting. I'm working on a camper/tiny home build. Doing this to help keep weight to a minimum. Hopefully if I save enough weight I can put in a loft bed!
Speaking of off gasing... what about if it gets hot? Even an old car still off gases after many years, I know, as I lived in PHX for many years and I d get nausiated when/if a car was parked in the sun... 🤔🤔🤔
Just not seeing the time invested worth it as there's so many steps and preplanning for wood inserts where needed for screwing strength, such as for cabinet doors... Would instead just use a mix of mostly 1/2" and where absolutely necessary 3/4" plywood (countertop, bed platform), and use a jigsaw to take the "body" out of vertical sheets by cutting out the middle area to leave just about 2" around the outer perimeter... That way you get less assembly time, reduced weight over continuous plywood, and ready strength for screwing anywhere still.
Dan weirdo Some leftover scraps I put in the ceiling but most insulation is a slightly different styrofoam. You can see it in the "let there be light" video on the channel
Sorry, i could see a lot of amurtuish errors... design and execution not great but hey you are on the right idea with laminated foam. Been used for decades in boat building.
I saw this on Jed channel also. The majority of the strength is in the screen. The paper has limited looks but you can apply almost any kind of wall paper for the look you want. Just saying.
Regarding PM at 2:49. I’d never heard of him in my life until this past season of SNL where Salena Gomez hosts. PM looks to me like a gang member that just got out of prison . His act had me convinced the he was. In his first song, the Lyrics are ‘That will cost you three stacks’ as he holds his three fingers down snd out, clearly making the 666 sign. At the superbowl, the Producer and all three singers are part of the club. You simply don’t get there either on talent alone.
using a 25$ foam foam heating wire made for the job, plus get the right glue made for foam and use the heating wire to cut jig saw pattern to make it stronger plus it increases the gluing surface to glue.
Glidden, not Glidian gripper can get expensive... I'm not crafty enough nor do I have the patience! I'll just go to Home Depot and buy prebuilt cabinets😉
I don't get it. Why not just build cabinets out of some nice plywood. Goes pretty fast and you have a real cabinet when you're done. Regarding weight, my van is lined with plywood, the upper cabinets are plywood, the kitchen cabinet is plywood, the bed/garage is plywood and after loading it up with everything that I could possibly need including fuel, food, water, ourselves, everything for an extended trip of a couple of months boondocking, we are still 1000 pounds under capacity (Sprinter 2500 144 tall).
@KD For the sake of trying something different, I'd assume. Experimentation, creativity, curiosity! Tried and true is great but new techniques are born from trial and error, and breed inspiration and ideas. I think it was great to share what worked and what didn't, brave and very interesting 😀
Way too many steps, labor. Quicker to build out of thin ply and furring strips like rv manufacturers do. Better yet, buy cabinets at Habitat for Humanity Restore ($30-$40 ea)& trim to fit. That would certainly have a super low flash point versus regular wood construction. Cant imagine all of that foam, fiberglass, paper & poly etc catching fire..😳🔥🔥🔥🔥😱
Ive seen some foam builds on other channels, but the paper bag coat isnew to me. Looks great!
Thank you to you both for this info. I've been wanting to build a very light pop-up camper that I can tow with a small car. (BMW328d, 280 lbft torq) If I can get an aluminum trailer base made, using techniques learned from these videos, I should be able to make a unit that is strong and ultra light! I'm not using paper bags, rather a fine cloth and then painted. Cabinet doors: foam & maple veneer!
I know someone who did the finish by tearing up left over gift wrap paper.
Looked fantastic!
I love the brown paper bag look, I've covered all my cabinets and bedside stands with the Elmer glue/water method
I dig it too. Looks very unique
I'm wondering if you considered applying the screen first to the entire panel before cutting and assembly. Then, once assembled, apply the screen to the seams. I would think it would be easier to do the entire panel rather than the individual surfaces.
Might work. Would make it harder to cut through though. And youd still have to put some on afterwords to strengthen the corners etc. 👍
I think it's a great idea, if you apply the screen to each panel after cutting them first. Might save time and you'd be able to pull it tight.
I’m a crawlspace contractor. My biggest mistake was using That silver stuff (Refex?) on the walls . After three years it decays. I owed three homes new walls.
Best part of “messing up?” One can improve their next build! Nice step by step to have the concept make sense! Thank you
This is ingenious. My daughter loves to build things, buts she's a little small for power tools. We are going to build an art table for her out of this. It's basically a similar construction to a surfboard....seems like it would be quite strong.
It is very strong! If you put polyethylene on it at the end like I did, make sure to air it outside to offgas for many days before putting it in her room.
Going to do this. Love the decoupagé. I use free samples from wallpaper shops. 👍
Gives a great texture too
Years ago, I scored a free sample of a wooden-backed paint sample card, except this one was for a mirror effect. I nabbed it to use as an emergency signal mirror.
Great video. Thank you for keeping it real and explaining your mistakes. That's how you learn and it helps all of us. I have a 2005 white E-350 that I am about to start building. Your van is very similar which makes your videos that much more compelling. I wonder if you will do a video where you recap how your build is working out, what you would change (or have changed) and what you got exactly right. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Jimmy. I've done a few reviews of my build, but not one that does the whole thing. I'll put that on my todo list. 👌
I'm so impressed with this inexpensive lightweight technique you have invented. Looking forward to your lightweight RV.
I can't take full credit, I stand on the shoulders of giants. haha
Do a search on youtube for paperbag floors, I learned on youtube than did my cabinets in paperbags
I did the same thing. Paperbag finish looks good.
ELECTRIC KITCHEN KNIFE, WORKS LIKE A JIG SAW, EASY PEASY, TO CUT FOAM WITH. THRIFT STORED ALWAYS HAVE THEM.
Good tip Jerry 👍
They do work, but they don't give a very smooth edge when cutting closed cell foam, such as what was being used here. We cut a very similar closed cell foam, called EVA, at my work, with the use of a foam saw. Our saws have finer blades, but they still give a slightly rough edge. I've used a flat blade, for a neater job, but it needs lubrication with silicone spray (or similar), to prevent the foam from grabbing the blade. I haven't tried a hot wire, or hot knife, yet. Apparently they do a great job.
jublywubly I just watched a guy use a hot blade that cut the foam board like butter, awesome.
Canvas instead of the bug net works well too
Also for the food storage area instead of going thinner, I would have doubled up its thickness. Even if you are using a powered fridge, if you keep the heat away from the outside of the fridge, it saves battery power because the fridge does not have to work as hard to stay cool.
Good tips! 👍
Jig saws, table saws, and zip saws fly right through this. Super fast clean cuts.
Good tips. Would have been quicker than Razer blades for sure hah
@@zhkopec I used razor blades for ten years, then watched some house siding guys installing foam board using a table saw to rip it so I tried it and laughed at how much time I saved.
@@zhkopec If you want to keep doing it by hand, you can try a kitchen knife. The long ones for cutting bread, with the wavy cut blade, are great esp. for softer foam. Also if you go down the cutter knife route: try those black TAJIMA RAZAR blades. Those are the best blades you can find, really really sharp!
Interesting application of the composite core concept. I wonder if epoxy resin and fiberglass would work with this idea. Although, the humidity in Florida might be a problem.
Epoxy resin would for sure work. I have some fiberglass cloth. Wondering if it would work better than window screen
build carcass for cabinets out of pvc pipe, you can drill holes thru it to attach front, sides, and top and to attach it to walls of van and it's light weight...get the thick walled pvc to make it sturdy.
I love the paper finish, it kind of looks like a leather finish!
I agree! Looks really cool
I think you made your self work harder cause you could pre prep your foam piece with screen and the corners and seams could be done with small strips to finish! Or at least do the inside then after assembly screen wrap outside!
Same, I would lay up a whole bunch of panels to begin with, and then rip them down as needed. Great ideas tho. 👍
That voice is perfect for "fighting crime and evil"! You did great for a first try and thats how we learn to make things ourselves. :)
TONS OF VANARCHY Haha excellent that's the voice I'm going for. Let me know if you have questions I might be able to help with
zhkopec i read that in your description....;) Im going to remodel my van a bit and have been eyeing those inserts to put in my van if i have room. If i do ill glue the heck out of them.
Hot knife for that,i think so.Saludos from Puerto Rico!! Like it!!
Thanks Iraida!
Salukis I n.c.
Saludos lol
What gives that the strength ? I’d be worried that it would break if someone leaned on it.
How about using the white craft foam, it comes in several thicknesses and might be a little more stable, I would still skin it the same way with the screen, and use craft board in the joints to make it stronger. Great video's and idea's, thank you for sharing your gift's!
Hmm interesting idea. I'll have to check out that foam. Thanks :)
Maybe build a light weight wood frame and then use foam panels to skin it. 😀
@armoroid5000 what do you mean by skinning it?
@@cesarvides9729 it means to cover the outside with foam panels.
Balsa wood maybe? Or dowels
I thought about 1×2 frame, 1×1 for corners or places you need to screw in, and 1/8 ply
for the outside.
nice job. trial and error. :-) I saw Jeds video a few years ago. Glad you made them.
Thanks Dee. I've also got a video where I stress test them with fire and a hammer. ua-cam.com/video/cB3PiPaPO_I/v-deo.html
Great stuff I just wish there was an option to remove the "music" from the video, besides that it's great information
WOW, that simple job was made to be very very difficult and very time consuming.
As soon as I saw that mountain in the background at that WalMart...I knew you weren't in Fla. any longer !
I enjoyed your video... Liked and Subscribed !
Screww Googlle Thanks my man 👌
Off-gassing of the foam? Is that an issue? You mentioned the paint but what about the core?
should have build the foam pieces first completely and used 1x1 wood where it was to thin then put it all together using glue and drywall anchors to set the screws as they would hold much better then a screw by its self that's my plan at least thank for the video definitely gives inspiration
robert barron good tips!
Thanks for the content Kopec. I am yet to see any long term evidence of this type of construction lasting the test of time. Particular in a mobile application. A much better option, if choosing to make your own composite material is to use high density polyurethane foam with fibreglass layers. One of the issues with your method of construction is the lack of strength where the panels meet. As with the fibreglass method, the outer material cannot conform to a 45 degree angle. For this reason a resin filler needs to be used to "round" out the joines thus allowing the outer material to effectively bond with the surfaces. Cheers
Being you mentioned you were in FLA how do ya keep your van cool. I'm in Charleston SC and work nights. I'd be sleeping during the day. Summer here can get humid and hot. Suggestions? BTW I don't have a van as of yet. Looking for a hi-top extended van.
Been there done that! Ac window unit mounted between front and back of van in wall. Open windows in front so heat escapes.used a generator harbor freight to power.Pay attention to direction wind blowing outside. C.o.monitor inside area. Run Generator outside. Chain to non movable object.
Using washers help stabilize screws. Keeps from pushing too far in.
Good advice
A judicious use of wood and bracketry at structural stress points internal and perhaps some external would greatly strengthen your design.
Very true. If I was redoing it I would do just that.
You didn't show it, but you did activate the Gorilla Glue with water before screwing it together. Right? Please say yes.
Guy H. Good catch. I did indeed.
Thank you
Thanks for making this really interesting video. Personally, I would have made a proper wooden frame, rather than just using blocks for the hinges to attach too. I also probably would laminate the entire structure with thin plywood or something similar, for added strength, while not adding too much extra weight.
8:15 It's good to hear someone talking sense, for once. There's a YT channel for some company that does polyurethane floor coatings. They weren't wearing masks, while coating the floor. They claimed their product isn't toxic, because it's made from natural products. -That doesn't mean anything, because so is cyanide! Anyway, the MSDS sheets for the polyurethane hardener actually says to wear a respirator etc. because it's toxic.
I actually sell polyurethane foam (mattress foam). The main ingredients are water and petrochemicals, so they have to wear respirators, gloves, protective eye-wear etc. in the factory, where it's made.
Thanks jubly, I think you're spot on with the frame idea. And yeah always protect yourself from chemicals!
btw jigsaws make very clean cuts.
Is this cheaper than a light weight wood or using the foam for any other reason but for weight?
I didn't price it out at the time but it might be around same price. Benefit is mostly weight and doing an interesting project
Gorilla glue is water activated. It normally cures via water in the materials (wood for example) or via atmospheric humidity. By sealing it between two pieces of totally dry foam and isolating it from the atmosphere, you've drastically reduced its ability to cure. You've weakened it substantially from what it could be.
Good information, what is not pictured is me wetting down each surface before application and sealing.
zhkopec so why not mention that at all in your videos? What ratio of water to glue did you use? Hot or cold? Did you test the joint strength? When you destroyed the cabinet, what broke, foam or joints?
Fair enough, must have slipped through the cracks in filming. I wet the surfaces with a damp rag, room temp. On the channel there's a video of testing the strength and you can see stress points due to my design were the weakest link.
pretty unique! I like the idea with the paper patches.
But one question: why don`t you just use glas fibres & resin as Coat? It will be way more durable than the primer you have used.
basically oil and gas don't mix type deal, maybe redneck fiberglass might work ? (canvass and wood glue) Just a brain fart not tested or anything.
You could have sandwiched the foam board between thin ply sheets either side and glued them to the foam,they would hold the screws better
Good tip 👍
I would love to see a strenth test you could probably use stables to hold the fiberglass down why your painting
You're in luck Aaron. I made a vid where I stress test them and even light them on fire. ua-cam.com/video/cB3PiPaPO_I/v-deo.html
Off-gassing can go on for years. Just a hot tip there. If it off-gasses, I personally would not use it. There is a brand of birch wood that is pure and does not off-gas. It does weigh more but heck.. that's ok. It's better than taking chances with toxic materials that off-gas.
Take a look at these: www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/af/af02a2f0-d727-414c-82be-c5cb51e639bf.pdf
purebondplywood.com/product/purebond-plywood/
Hmm, that's interesting with the birch. I'll take a look. I'm right there with you with taking as few chances as I can with toxic off-gas
Has anyone considered marine panels from aluminum? www.portafab.com/marine.html
Not bad but if you have the plywood cover it in polyurethane that will seal the wood
Want to build a custom arcade cabinet. I think this would be ideal 👍
I noticed you don't show doing a second coat of gripper as recommended for strength. Is that why you ended up trashing it in a later episode?
I did an initial layer, stuck the fiberglass mesh to it, then covered it with the paint. Another layer after that may provide even more strength but the paint is mostly there just to hold on the mesh for tensile strength. I ended up trashing the long cabinet because my structural design was too flimsy. You can check it out in this vid ua-cam.com/video/cB3PiPaPO_I/v-deo.html
Would it be possible/reasonable to make the cabinet doors out of foam too?
How strong is this stuff ultimately? Could you build a bed frame out of it, or is it mostly just useful for containing light-weight things?
It's surprisingly strong, but a bed frame might be a little too much for it. I store about 30 lbs of weight in the tall cabinet now. I did a armature stress test on the material in this vid ua-cam.com/video/cB3PiPaPO_I/v-deo.html
zhkopec Thanks! That clears up a lot.
I'm working on designing/building an ultra-light tiny house on an old RV trailer so it could be towed by most SUVs instead of requiring a special tow vehicle, and I'm finding van conversions to be my best friends in terms of unconventional construction techniques!
That sounds awesome. Would love to see some vids of it when you're done. I think for beds / chairs wood still may be the way to go. I saw IntoTheMystery13 make a bed frame out of PVC pipe, which is light. I went with wood frame so I could have it pull out into a fullsize. There's a vid for that with plan designs on the channel.
zhkopec I saw that! I'm pulling together bits and pieces from a wide variety of really clever designs, and am trying hard to balance the different concerns against each other!
One other question about this build: Why not make the doors out of foam too? Is there some reason that wouldn't work well?
Foam would have worked for the doors I imagine. Thought about it after I destroyed the pieces I cut out.
This project is intriguing. It's 2 years since you made this. I would like to know how it has held up....
Good idea for a video Robyn. I didnt use the long one but the upright cabinet has held up well 👌
@@zhkopec why didn't you use the long one?
Shellac is a great alternative to polyurethane. It's a natural durable resin made from beetle dung. (Woohoo, no cancer!)
Great job on the build, keep it up👉👉
Great video!
Why not do the mesh on the sheets of foam first and paint in the joints after?
Why is it carcinogenic? What makes it so?
Most chemical finishers and varnish will off gas harmful compounds if you breath them in. Doubly so when you're in a confined space with them.
Why not paint/screen a full flat foam panel on both sides first, then cut it to size?
It's extra strong when you have the mesh go over the corners. But you could probably do it thasf way with success
very clever.
I saw this video just a couple days ago about the epoxy countertops. I was wondering if the two would mix for a countertop?
deprogramming life Hawkins Good thinking. I did have the plan to either cut out a wood top or vynal for better counter top. It depends on what finishing you coat it in. Might adhere better if you don't finish the top with clear coat.
Should have used fiberglass resin, would make your cabinets 1000x stronger.
Good idea. I'll take a look for the next set of cabinets! Thanks
I believe fiberglass resin will dissolve the foam board.
You have to use epoxy resin
How strong is it?
LOL i like the post malone thing you wrote on the blueprints
Should have made the cabinet doors out of thinner foam in the same manner
Lighter the rig the more efficient. I am looking into electric wheel motors with ultra super Capacitors charged through regeneration and solar. Backed up with a 6hp diesel generator.
How much weight can they hold?
I don't have exact numbers, I'll have to do a video to test it. The stronger one (the tall cabinet) is holding about 25-30 lbs currently.
Thank you.
One fellow made a cabinet with a sink. He took it outside and STOOD on it and it held up ok.
@@learnctr9443 & jumped on it while being 150 IBS. Not sure in Kilos though, sorry.
Just go buy yourself the same rigid foam used to build boats. light, and it already has the strength. No need for all of these steps and materials. You can use Fiberglass tape at the seams to put the cabinet together (Easy stuff) and then apply the wood veneers to it to create professional construction.
Thanks for the credit and shout of man. You did a better job than I did with this. How are they holding up?
Hey Jed, I made two cabinets and one is doing great. The other one I built incorrectly so I made a video about strength testing it by destroying it and lighting it on fire. haha
Was watching both videos and caught the issue for the first set of cabinets. In the corners, and seams you need to use gorilla or wood glue for strength. The Glidden paint is for smoother surface areas or top coats. I believe that's why the warping occurred.
lemonylizardlicker Good eye 😎
Ty both for posting. I'm working on a camper/tiny home build. Doing this to help keep weight to a minimum. Hopefully if I save enough weight I can put in a loft bed!
lemonylizardlicker Awesome. Make sure to keep us posted on how it turns out. Let me know if you've got any questions. 👌
NO MESS GURILLA GLUE????? Ok ... how did you do it or maybe just did not show the cutting and sanding of the goop the grew out of the cracks.???
Speaking of off gasing... what about if it gets hot?
Even an old car still off gases after many years, I know, as I lived in PHX for many years and I d get nausiated when/if a car was parked in the sun... 🤔🤔🤔
Just not seeing the time invested worth it as there's so many steps and preplanning for wood inserts where needed for screwing strength, such as for cabinet doors... Would instead just use a mix of mostly 1/2" and where absolutely necessary 3/4" plywood (countertop, bed platform), and use a jigsaw to take the "body" out of vertical sheets by cutting out the middle area to leave just about 2" around the outer perimeter... That way you get less assembly time, reduced weight over continuous plywood, and ready strength for screwing anywhere still.
great vid thanks allot, i might and use door skin coated sheets .. i know maybe i'm just drunk n over thinking the process :P
Is the van insulated with the same stuff as well
Dan weirdo Some leftover scraps I put in the ceiling but most insulation is a slightly different styrofoam. You can see it in the "let there be light" video on the channel
Sorry, i could see a lot of amurtuish errors... design and execution not great but hey you are on the right idea with laminated foam. Been used for decades in boat building.
That's because I'm an amateur lol
@@zhkopec I've decide to use CoreFlute or a similar aerated plastic product. I can use all the standard van cabinetry but its a tenth of the weight.
how are they holding up in the van?
So far the one I ended up using is still hanging in there!
He lost me at it will give you cancer. Great video and thanks for the warning. You did a great job, they looked good at the end.
Thanks Angie! 😃
I saw this on Jed channel also. The majority of the strength is in the screen. The paper has limited looks but you can apply almost any kind of wall paper for the look you want. Just saying.
Regarding PM at 2:49. I’d never heard of him in my life until this past season of SNL where Salena Gomez hosts. PM looks to me like a gang member that just got out of prison . His act had me convinced the he was. In his first song, the Lyrics are ‘That will cost you three stacks’ as he holds his three fingers down snd out, clearly making the 666 sign. At the superbowl, the Producer and all three singers are part of the club. You simply don’t get there either on talent alone.
Nice video. When you cut with a chop saw, be super careful cutting wood like that into such small strips. It can really end up nasty!
Using a box blade to trim would be much faster, and give a cleaner edge.
That's probably true
using a 25$ foam foam heating wire made for the job, plus get the right glue made for foam and use the heating wire to cut jig saw pattern to make it stronger plus it increases the gluing surface to glue.
Thats really resourceful and do'able
and a mistake
I build boats this exact same way but use white glue water 50/50 and glue paper
Then I use fiberglass mat and resin to make the panels strong
Get yourself an Exacto knife/blade kit. Dump the scizzers.
NøMADs cabs are better finished, I don’t like the ripped paper effect, using full sheet paper would look like a neater finish or vinyl
I considered vinyl but I actually did like the paper finish texture.
Nomad has engineering skills and paid attention in science class. But hey, there is no wrong way to build a house......right?
Glidden, not Glidian gripper can get expensive... I'm not crafty enough nor do I have the patience! I'll just go to Home Depot and buy prebuilt cabinets😉
You mean like kitchen cabinets?? Think you'll find those are too big...
@@learnctr9443 And heavy! Dude walked into this movie, late, and missed the whole plot!
Slip the muzac plz.
I'd use a electric heat styrofoam cutter instead of a razor blade and foam fusion glue.
Dan weirdo Good tip. I'll use that the next time I'm cutting some
zhkopec it's slow but u can cut curves
Go to Harbor freight get a craig jig copy watch a couple you tube vids and move on. That little extra weight won't effect things that much
That's a cool device. I didn't know about those. Definitely going to use one on my next project thanks!
jed is the shit
i found you bc i was watching his videos lol
Awesome! I started watching him way back. Great stuff
I'm going to build mine out of cereal boxes and straw held together with chicken shit. Lol
Make sure to video tape it for demonstration
Chicken shit adobe! Would probably be stronger and cheaper AND you'd get to eat the cereal!
Please cut music when speaking .
You will be quite pleased with the recent videos 👌
Music made me stop watching
Youd enjoy the recent vids then!
I hated the music
I loved the music
why so many of you think it's cool to put background music in, I don't know but it's just annoying.
Hey, living in your van at a Walmart, why not?
It's certainly possible :P
I like the comment from, "aren't you afraid of toxins"?
Don't people know that it only affect those who live in California? Lol!
Lol!
... looks like basic amateur night at the Jr. High school shop demo show ....
More or less lol
Cut the foam with a wire connected to a battery.
I don't get it. Why not just build cabinets out of some nice plywood. Goes pretty fast and you have a real cabinet when you're done. Regarding weight, my van is lined with plywood, the upper cabinets are plywood, the kitchen cabinet is plywood, the bed/garage is plywood and after loading it up with everything that I could possibly need including fuel, food, water, ourselves, everything for an extended trip of a couple of months boondocking, we are still 1000 pounds under capacity (Sprinter 2500 144 tall).
@KD For the sake of trying something different, I'd assume. Experimentation, creativity, curiosity! Tried and true is great but new techniques are born from trial and error, and breed inspiration and ideas. I think it was great to share what worked and what didn't, brave and very interesting 😀
Check out NOMAD
It's not great to breathe the gases it omits over time .
Another video with music, oh geez already, see u later
Don’t crash!!..lol
I'm trying lol
Way too many steps, labor. Quicker to build out of thin ply and furring strips like rv manufacturers do.
Better yet, buy cabinets at Habitat for Humanity Restore ($30-$40 ea)& trim to fit.
That would certainly have a super low flash point versus regular wood construction. Cant imagine all of that foam, fiberglass, paper & poly etc catching fire..😳🔥🔥🔥🔥😱
Oh. Fiberglass mesh. Lol. Okay, maybe it can.
;)
And get a hot knife, those cuts are disgusting
The music was harsh :(