SCAM in UKRAINE: Watch Out for the Restaurant Scam! 🇺🇦
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- Turn on Subtitles. 🇹🇷🇺🇦🇷🇺🇦🇪 (CC) There are a lot of scams in Ukraine, but the restaurant scam is definitely the most common. It's a tough one as it's so easy to get tricked on, 1 in 2 tourists, travelers and expats I know have fallen for it at least once. It's also hard to avoid as going out to eat at restaurants, especially one dates with Ukrainian girls is one of the highlights of being in the country.
It took me 3 trips to Ukraine to figure this out, and only this past year that I get the inside information about how it actually works and how prevalent it really is. It turns out it's become so sophisticated that girls even have an app that shows which restaurants are paying 10%-40% cash back commissions. All the girls have to do is call ahead and say, "I'm coming at 7pm tonight on a date, my ID or name is ______, make sure you send me cash back to my bank account after he pays the bill."
I'll pin a comment thread below with the restaurants most known for this type of scam, and others can comment on it as well with places to avoid.
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I just had a Tinder girl try to insist that I meet her at specific restaurant. When I told her I prefer to choose, she went crazy and refused to meet. Scam averted!
That is crazy
Good move man.
My respect to you sir!
absolutely they only want to go to commission restaurant .
You should have agreed to meet her there and then not shown up. Waste her time bro 😂
Take the girl to Mc Donalds.Always safe.
Hesburger
Well you will know she’s genuine
Going for a walk in the park and getting a 🥙 is more ideal😋 If the girl doesn’t like you, she’d rather go to the park with a 🥙alone. Simple. Oh now I want to eat
Take her to Mcfoxy. People from kyiv would know this XD
@@2damaxmr2 mcfoxy does not exist anymore :)
Sad.. Born in Kyiv, I've never been to such places because of scam'y image around them. None of my friends go there. I understand: you want to meet girls and the girls you meet via traditional dating sites usually invite you to such places. This has been working for at least 20 years already. Nothing changed, looks like :) However, the girl you met in Poltava is of a different kind, for sure. Keep looking for such girls, avoid guys who also go to Avalon etc, start digging into cultural and intellectual layer of Kyiv, and you'll be amazed. Best luck!
What are some examples of cultural and intellectual layer of Kyiv?
@@michaellangone4766 Going to Podil, places like Палата №6, dig into socialist architecture, take the METRO to a random outskirt etc. Avalon wouldn't be my Kyiv, either. (:
Good advice. Those girls are crooks and on the game. AVOID.
Сережа, как правило , стараются обмануть только иностранных граждан. Нас так не возмеш.
It’s like a sport to some these girls
14:44 That girl in the back who never smiles, chowing away at free food, and looks like she's waiting in line at the DMV. What a downer. At least fake a smile.
I dont think this can be called dating at all. Date is when both parties are actually interested to meet and get to know each other. When one of them is simply doing that to get dinner for free and such is not a date :)
yeah it is her job
I met my wife in odessa...I have been on dozens of dates beforehand....and many trips there. And you?
@@jeanpaulfelix4095 your comment doesnt make any sense in the context presented here. try again.
Or even just meeting a guy to practice her English or 'talk to an interesting foreigner'. It doesn't mean she's actually interested in getting to know you AS A MAN. But, if she is, you'll know lol.
@@mileicampeonmundial For most its not really their job. Just a 'side hustle'. Unless they're living with a bf/husband/parents. THEN maybe its basically their job.
It was hot in early July 2021 in Kyiv. I popped in to Avalon where there was decent air conditioning and ordered a lemonade. The waiter asked me if I like flavored and large lemonade. I said ok sure. My bill was 576 UAH ( over $21) for one glass of lemonade before tip! I commented to the waiter that this is probably the most expensive glass of lemonade in the world and he responded by reminding me that service is not included! Lesson learned; never spent any more money at Avalon!
You could get that price in New York if you enter in a 5-star restaurant and ask for lemonade only. Who does that?Restaurants are for dinners or lunches.
Ask the price before you spend your money.
If he said to me that service is not included I would say too bad for you.
That’s a common scam in a lot of countries. I had it happen to me when I was about 20 years old in Singapore. Some women suggested we go out for breakfast and we wound up paying a hundred bucks for it. And this was over 25 years ago so you can imagine how much that was back then.
Bald is always getting scammed. He's got a weakness for the Babushkas!
lmao
A foreigner taking a Ukrainian girl to an expensive restaurant on a first date never gets them anywhere. When I lived in Ukraine, my first dates were always informal and involved coffee and a light lunch. Once a relationship had been established, I would take them fancier places. But at that stage it would be clear that they weren't just using me for an expensive meal.
There are a lot of simps. These girls know how to take advantage of them.
17:39 That girl at the end of the table with her head down wasn't feeling it, I bet she was just there for a meal.
In Odessa Ukraine....BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE "The Bar" downtown near Center. scammed me for $949 dinner for 2. 2 cheap bottles of wine..a shared seafood platter with my date and a Hookak. Should have cost at most $100 ...and still trying to get reversed by my bank. Wish me luck.
I see guys get scammed there all the time ! One man payed
$3000 USD with 2 girls who are on commission. I watched as the girls ordered absolutely everything while he was just oblivious as they distracted with affection and charm . I’ve seen these two girls heaps of times always hanging around the Main Street both blond one skinny one heavier both about 35 .I try to warn sometimes but probably putting myself at risk
This scam almost happened to me in Kiev with a girl I met on tinder but as I have a certain experience in post soviet countries I didn't fall for that. She wanted to take me to a certain restaurant but I insisted to go to an other one (not so expensive), she kindda disapproved but we did then go to my own choice and during dinner started to complain about how bad the quality of the food was and barely ate what was served to her. In the end I knew she was a scammer like many others and left in a more than a dark taxi that was waiting for her.
In conclusion, in those countries never let a girl decide for a restaurant where to eat.
And don't pick up girls on tinder or online anywhere.
Lesson: No genuine people in illegal activities ✅
No honor among thieves
@@nn-dj2nu There's heaps, just not with their marks.
I live in Kyiv. All those places you mention are just tourist traps, just go a few more blocks from them and you will find 100% better and not scammy places...
Where? Add a list.
@@cabral_del_elpaso I guess you don't need a list anymore 😑
Why don’t you just offer her dollars and take her to a hotel 😂
And order a pizza from pizza hut home delivered.
because she wants food and clothes and attention, not sex or straight up cash.
They can get more money from commissions and shopping than for straight sex
@@lordclancharlie1325 but aren't they humans and want sex?
@@surveyorsairinc2166 Sex not important when you hungry and thirsty
I'm planning to spend my next vacation in Ukraine, 6 days in Kiev and 8 in Odessa, glad youtube recommended ur vlog as an eye opener for me to watch out for these things, appreciate the tips. cheers
Odessa is a city full of scams, watch it.
Just got back from a week in Kyiv after seeing Johnny's videos, it was amazing, the people are charming, the prices are great, like you can eat your fill for so little and it's such a beautiful city. Go do a Chernobyl tour while you're there, super interesting!
Just avoid recommendation of touristic guides, find a young people who speak english and ask them about nice local places. There are hundreds of fancy and safe places both in Kyiv and Odessa.
You can rent your rooms in advance and get apartments, if you do not speak Russian at least a translator is helpful in some places, they have some for your phone.
Good luck! Looking forward your feedback on what are the scams if any and tips on how you avoided them
Thank you friend. I appreciate sharing this information. Its very important and helpful.
scopalomined in prague by 2 females in prague at a bar. gladly walked to the cashpoint to hand over £500 and lost the next 8 hours.. at least i woke with my clothes on lol.
My cousin got done by a similar scam in Thailand, He was in a club with a friend then these girls come over starts flirting with you then more come over and end up shouting them drinks and the bill ends up being 3 or 4 times what it’s supposed to be and you try to leave and the bouncers stop you make you pay and you have to pay because you don’t want any trouble and you don’t know what their going to you and you can’t call the police because their corrupt.
Tell the girls you want to go to McDonalds and see what happens : )
Thanks for telling me this. You inspired me to go there and I’ll be there in August. Just hoping Jiujitsu gyms are a go by then.
Sad,! The post before me really captures what I feel about this and I have been around the east European block including war torn and post conflict areas before I became a Homer. Great video 👍
Great lesson Johnny!👍👍
I'm an American from California. Here in Odessa this week. Tonight just got caught up in the restaurant scam thanks to a Tinder girl. 2200 UAH for her 2 drinks, some dessert thing + my one vodka/orange juice! In the Greek Square area.
Here in Odessa,, I've had several Tinder girls suggest we meet for lunch or dinner in the Greek Square area. Seems to me this is now a big red flag. 🚩 Forget those restaurants for a first date.
Btw: I just had a girl try to get me to take her to ESHACK.
Tip: Never let the girl choose the restaurant.
So many Americans
Got robbed in Kiev
In hostels
They give you locker with digital key
You think it’s secure
You go out
They open your locker
Take your valuables
Drug you ate night
When u sleep
You will not find out happen till u leave Ukraine
It happened to me at zhoste in Kiev
@@aliciohemanes2917 You didn't read the reviews before you booked?
you can check the menu of any restaurant online ahead
they called them in kiev "soldiers" be careful johnny, they always wants your money free drink , food etc. play wisely
Did he say it costed 2400 Hryvni that's around $90 - being scammed I don't think that is too bad..lol
Last summer I was in Odessa and met up with girl from a dating app (Happened). She gave me a recommendation of a restaurant of which I declined thinking it'll be very expensive. After couple of recommendation from each other we ended going to this one by Afina Mall of which she recommended.
I've looked at the menu thinking it'll going to expensive evening probably costing around $120 for two including a $65 bottle of wine (cheapest on the list). When the bill came - it tallied up to $250, I did challenged the waiter on each of the items on the bill. Outcome was that a glass of Orange juice costed $19 and the food was based on 100g pricing. So my salmon fillet main costed about $60 and while hers was slightly cheaper at $45, luckily I did not bother with the deserts.
Moral of the story is a never let your Ukrainian date choose the restaurant on your first date, unless you already know them well.
were was this place.any time you have problem in odessa or your here
let me know and yoy will not have this bad expereance.
i will tell you were to eat with 3-5 euro and also the ladies like this place.
this my area afina mall and all greek sguare.even genady tryxanov the mer
of odessa is my emploee)).is good that only you spent money and you
didnt get beaten or roped by a gang.
all the ladies in iternet are scamers and avoid folow them or invide them.
the prices you pay is very cheap,mayby you was in cezar in derebasoskaya 8-10.
in other places are more and more expensive than there)
my recards from cyprus at the moment
@@vatraxosapoelistas1629 Any Tipps?
I thought Ukrainians pay for their own food
Odessa is an scam city, watch it my friends...
I paid 2,100uah at bernardazzi for me and my girlfriend. Most of that was the wine though and the food was a little more high end so even though it’s expensive for Ukraine I didn’t feel to put out as the same meal in the uk would have probably costed allot more.
Maybe its because I'm older and have experienced more of life, Johnny, but I much prefer peace and quiet and not the big cities. I've lived in Southern Calif. my whole life and I'm sick of all the noise and traffic and high costs. I would still love to hang out with you and Ben sometime because I know you guys would make me laugh a LOT. But WOW, I was not aware of all those crazy scams! Thank you for keeping us informed man!
I had a similar one in Hungary in the late 90s. Girl approached me in the street. Buttered me up asked if I was a tourist. Offered to show me around. First place was a cute cafe where she recommended a wine called Bulls Blood. $4US for the bottle. Then she goes let's go dancing at this club I know so I'm like sure. We get seated in a cozy area and she goes "let's order another Bulls Blood". The wine was pretty decent so I'm like yeah sure let's do that. But the place itself was dead and boring as hell. So I say to the chick let's finish this bottle and get out of here. We finish the bottle, the bill comes and it's something like $120US! I kind of throw a fuss at the waiter who was built like a mack truck who's glaring at me and he just goes "you must pay!" I go "I don't have it on me!" He goes "ATM outside". So dude walks me out to the ATM and I hand him the cash. Then the chick walks up to me and says "where are we going next?" I said "Nowhere! You're too damn expensive!" and walked off.
Hey Johnny boi. Thanks for an informative video. I’m going to Kiev in a few weeks, i saw you mention in the video you would pin a comment or write in the description names of theese restaurants, can’t find any list 😬 can you mention some names i should avoid?
if you are really rich in Ukraine, you are either a corrupt gov worker or a shady businessman.
Not necessarily. There are a lot of legit high paying IT jobs in Kyiv. I know several guys in their early or mid 20s that are pulling down serious salaries. Sometimes almost comparable to IT salaries in the Midwest USA.
depends on what you call really rich. But there are also many genuine businessmen, entrepreneurs and ppl who work high paying jobs at international companies.
I work for anon company in the US, at one point we were sending out about 500k $ loads of product to Kyiv pretty much everyday, I always joked that it was the mafia ordering it
I can’t believe this video. I was just there two years ago, I stayed right next door. I knew that place was a bit of a scam. Now you just confirmed it for me. I actually put it in one of my videos about my apartment that is seriously right next-door. Thanks Johnny
That’s why tourism won’t thrive there. We had the same experience of being preyed by the locals. It’s a no return for me. There are so many better destinations where people are poor but genuine and honest. No thanks, Ukraine.
yes,go in belgrad servia,tbilisi in georgia and you will be safe anytime.
i live in odessa and kiev from 1990.now i am in cyprus for vaccination.
next week back to kiev 10 days and afterin odessa my base.
in odessa also many places have this scam atitute.
no tryst ladies,friandly locals and english speakers.
before 3 years 2 tyrist from cyprus didnt lisent me about a club
in odessa name paladiym.for one battle of vodka they pay 3000 euro!
many other people i know had the same bad expereance
If you are not looking for Slavic girls, don't travel Ukraine for vacation or tourism purpose. It's not a tourism destination.
Thank you for valuable tips!!!!
I met my Ukrainian wife through Interpals and we're living in Bahrain with our daughter for the past 5 years.. One thing Americans need to know is that decent girls cannot be found in bars, because decent girls don't hang out there in Ukraine. It's just a different culture.
same goes for guys
@@mirusadventures7721 sure, but who is looking for a Ukrainian husband? It's mostly the other way around.
Absolutely
that is bullshit -a girl in ukraine can go to a bar to hang out with her friends, there is nothing wrong about it. But ofc if a FAKE LOOKING supposedly attractive lady is hitting on you , looking like a foreigner -she might be a scam .
The right perspective helps... I was young once, we all know why many guys go there, and it isn't to pick daisy's and sip tea... we get ourselves caught in our own zipper.
Thanks for this video, Johnny. That’s why I eat at Puzata Hata. Good food, and no scams.
You can also try Dinners, the same price but better quality
@@JarheadUkraine or any Georgian)
puzata hata is quite low-quality food. just go to the places where owners are not the mafia.
the girl at the end of the table during the skull mugs looks like she has to be there and not enjoying the date. likely she’s in on it. 😂
ukraine travel tip: don’t eat there. lol
Hey, Johnny great job! Thanx! With the help of this kind of videos, the amount of crooks and scums in Ukraine will finally reduce, I hope. So foreigners and tourists will feel much safer. Do you have experience with Czech Republic?:) this is my second homeland and I am interested, if there are many gold diggers there. Btw, my sister used to live in the flat in Mikhailivskyi provulok, where u and Bald were celebrating you birthday😂😂😂 I was really shocked. Have a nice day and enjoy Ukraine! Tony Popovich.
I really appreciate the heads up, this would be an easy trap to fall into.
You seem pretty laid back about knowing one of your "friends" is apparently in on this scam and make a kickback from scamming you. I would want to know who that person was so I could get my money back 😂
It was the couple in the corner ordering everything. I'd agree though, he seems pretty chill about his 'friends' playing him.
@@cubajonesie they weren’t his friends because they scammed him. They are his enemy!
@@cubajonesie I wonder how they feel now that Johnny is advocating for Ukraine. I wonder if they feel bad about how they treated Johnny. Or maybe they are sociopaths and just dont care?
Great upload. Thanks for sharing.
I've been watching your vids for a while now, really hoping that when I get out of the Army I can pull off a similar gig. Your videos keep my hopes up for a better life!!!
I have never been scammed like this myself but I see it all over Eastern Europe.
I've also heard about that. Strange. I have been to Avalon with my girlfriend and we paid the normal price from the menu. They were not even suggesting some "heavily expensive" alternatives. But we both spoke Polish and just ordered in English. Maybe that was the reason. I actually really enjoyed that place.
But I encountered a different situation. A police car stopped me after late night grocery shopping, wanted to see my passport and took me to their police station, because I refused to pay them to let me go. That was a really unpleasant situation.
Still... we loved Kiev and we will come back.
Thanks for this video
Thanks for this 😌
Good to know thanks Johnny!!
Yo! How it works with the chix? they approach to you in order to keep a conversation and after that invite her some expensive dinner??
Johnny, love your channel. I'm from NYC.
3yrs ago I met a beautiful Russian girl who was travelling for vacation, stayed in touch, visited each other then she stayed and we got married. Took 2 weeks after the wedding for me to discover she was scamming me and only wanted a green card - fortunately for me, I never applied for her. I sent her ass back to Russia, and she can't return. She begged me to bring her back, I said no.
Don't get scammed bro!
They ALL do that if that makes you feel better. The keyword for the trap is 'beautiful girl'. ;)
Like most girls for Rusia she will never spent one penny on you and she will never work
@@emirk.3979 That seems to be the pattern, often stating that women in Russia don't work. Oddly enough, her statement couldn't be further from the truth. Last I heard she's barely getting by. Oh well.
@@DHFlip18 yes they work but they dont want to work they want to find someone and to do nothing. I have been with many if them but for exemole i live im Germany and womens are much better
If girl is beautiful, she need a worthy partner: good looking, intelligent, he should be an interesting person, and the most important - he must be about her age, otherwise your life priorities will be different. If you are non of those, and beautiful girl approaching you - something wrong.
The must common scam I have come across in my travels is the “Let’s have a drink” (Istanbul) in which you are invited by either man or women for a friendly drink and they take you to their favorite bar may end up with a hefty bill and of course you must pay or else. So, it’s not just Ukraine but other locations that if your not aware of such practices you can end up in a very unpleasant situation.
Great job in warning people.
Biggest scam I came across is waiter padding the bill . Putting items on the bill you never ordered . Charging double . Happens constantly
Is that an Air BnB you are recording from?
A girl who is out of your league shows interest for no reason
Take her to McDonalds see how interested she actually isn't 😄
HA HA many guys fat bold and old think they will get a supermodel in Ukraine just because they have few bucks... she does not want you only your money ...
@@ericgabay1580 exactly!
Why was my last post not published?(
A scammer girl tried to take me to an expensive Chinese restaurant called ‘Bao’ and also a trendy place called ‘Zweig’ When I suggested I choose a place of course she disappears! Avoid these places as they have deals with scammers. Even if you choose a place to go a girl can phone up and do a commission deal before you meet. Yes it’s that bad! Best to meet at a normal bar or cafe and go somewhere you choose. Most dates foreigners go on involve some scam or at least free food without a word of thanks. Yes, sad.
Hi Johnny... That was an eye opener, cause I'm going there shortly.
Btw, the girl sitting with you in the beginning probably her name is OLGA???
Hi Johnny. Can you get scammed in Alaska if you order only from the menu?
I’m not sure about Alaska, but I wouldn’t trust that restaurant.
@@JohnnyFD Thanks Bro. Love your channel.
I strongly recommend that you do not visit Ukraine. Especially the city of Odessa. The restaurants are a sham. The city is dirty. Total disrespect for tourists.
Like tourists should be worshipped. Maybe try SE Asia
I got caught by such scam and had to pay 650$ for a couple of drinks and a hookah, unfortunately I learned about this scam later. It was in Kiev, and the place was called Hi Hookah Bar or something of that sort.
Dude you got to show us that app that they're using! Expose it!
I'd never leave any type of a credit card at these places, in fact in wouldn't be seen so there places. The girl at the end of the table looks like she's about to cry.
Always ask for the menu or how much is the cheque as you order as they will give you the chance to walk away or stay
So Johnny any advice for Ulanbaattar?
You got similar tourist scams in other countries. In Greece for example they will bring you food you didn't order and if you touch it, you'll have to pay. But yeah, the tactics are more advanced in kyiv and odessa hahahaha
If you google China Tea House Scam and you'll find a similar strategy used in Beijing and Shanghai.
Thank you for Sharing advice:)) I travelled with my Russian girlfriend for 2.5 years through Europe… Dating advice for you, Johnny:)) Don’t date party girls who are most likely scammers … My Russian girlfriend didn’t drink or party… was very health conscious and amazing at cooking amazing Russian dishes:))) keep up the great videos… cheers from Vancouver Canada
Which website did you find your mail order bride on?
@@danthadon87 go to University library.. There are some, reading books
Great info
When I was in Kiev like 5 years ago, I went to an Italian place (Prego) on Shevchenko. Had two full meals, drinks, salad, and desert for two and it was $22.00 with tip. Things are not supposed to be that expensive, I literally was there for a week and a half and could not spend the entire $500.00 I had for entertainment. Maybe things have changed since then.
things haven't changed, it was the fact that you went to normal places. here though, you can see that johnny goes to some really damn expensive yet totally unworthy restaurants. in my opinion, while traveling to places like ukraine, the cheapest opportunities must be considered, because this way you are going to know how usual people live, not rich ones
Most places are cheap as hell. You can go to a good-quality buffet-style place for lunch and get a 4-course (entree soup salad etc) meal for
Oh yeah. Kyiv has been getting more expensive. I first got her in 2017 and prices on everything have gone up by around 30%. That is not scams that is just the inflation and the economy here.
@@hipkno77 not just there, but everywhere
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Thank you very much you tell us.
Nice video, good tips
Never eat out I haven't in years I would rather save my money for other things plus it is healthier if I make my own food.
Hi Johnny, you mentioned the Mafia, aren't you worried that they know your face and where you live too? or does that sort of thing only happen in the movies? watch your back and keep up the good work!
Yes, it puts me in danger exposing them publicly, especially since I'm living here now. But someone needs to speak up so this cycle of scamming stops as it's bad for the future of the country if they allow this type of corruption to continue.
@soundnomad how the fuck is his monetization relevant here? He is disclosing a popular scam. Incredibly useful for other travelers and nomads. Thailand has its fair share but at most a tuk tuk driver will charge you $5 extra or a bar scam will add $30 to your bill - unlike the hundreds of dollars tourists are falling victims to in Ukraine.
Johnny is a gopnic, he fears no one
@@JohnnyFD Don't take unnecessary risks. By the way, In your video ( 15:36 ) is that the same the girl you took to Crimea?
I have no shame about being cheap, I will interrogate the waiters about the cost of everything.
I do the same sometimes I just say I give me 20€ in food. Easy cheers
Wonderful sharing my friend
''overchaged for something that did not worth that money'
So ... who weighs your food to calculate the price? There used to be a buffet in Montreal that sold by weight, but you had to weigh your plate at the case.
If my watermelon juice cost 70$ I will literally go to the restaurants kitchen and start pulping the watermelon myself 😂🤣🤣🤣
I fell for this and i knew about these scams beforehand too which is the sad part
They can be hard to avoid even when you're aware of them. Sorry it happened to you/
Paying that much for a restaurant no michelin star attached to it.
When is strange places, I look for shabby side street restaurants that cook local home type food. If you spend over the odds at a cheap local restaurant they will give great service. I am not attracted by the décor, only the quality of the food. In some countries were food and drink is expensive eg Norway. I tell the restaurant what is my budget, and they will serve accordingly.
can you recommend some places in kiev, which are nice and don't scam?
Faina Familia, il Molino (cozy itallian restaurants for example)
So the best way to enjoy a nice restaurant food is to do takeout there without the water. Tell the date to hang out at your place with that restaurant food. No scam or worries. Otherwise tell the date to meet at Starbucks for 1st date.
If I’m gonna spend that kind of money on a date I want to get at least laid to make it worthwhile.
No Starbucks in Ukraine so far :)
you realy dont know this ladies)) me in macdonalds?i only eat in this 5 star restorant.
all the foreigners you meet tha same gairls online or in the street so dont
wait normal behave and for sure 100% yoy will get scam
Vatraxos Apoelistas I won’t get scammed because I won’t eat at 5 star restaurants for dine in…I will only do take out.
@@inquisitvem6723 i mean the gairls tell you me only in fancone or bisteka i eat in odessa example.after you will see them alone in macdonalts or seat for hours dooing nothing.
@@inquisitvem6723 well I mean even the ukrainian girls have standards. Judging by your creepy comments you probably are below them lmao
In the US it would be rude for a girl that you invite to a date to demand a specific restaurant and in Ukraine it should be the same. I think that a lot of Western guys are being fooled into thinking that they have to do all of these amazing things to impress Ukrainian women. If you wouldn't spend 500 USD on a date back home, you shouldn't be doing that abroad.
A lot of girls in the US will "suggest" a restaurant to go on a date...aka demand. =)
Watch out johnny from scammy restaurants , it was an informative video :)
I have seen many of your recent vlogs. I do not recommend you to go these places in city center. Find places that are cool for locals. Non of cool Ukrainian people would spend time and money in those kind of restaurants.
exactly
I have just read some of the comments. What a lot of people fail to realize is that UA-camrs are always looking for content to blog about.Anyone with his wits about him would not fall for these scams and most of these TInder dates are not much better than prostitutes
shit those prices are sick. I'm sure you can get the same in other restaurants even in Kyiv. In my city(Vinntsia), you'd have as sophisticated cuisine for about 1.5-2k UAH for all food (if you had a meal for 2). Booze is expensive though but still managable. No more than 3k anyway. My wife and I were full for 1k with tips included. I'm really sorry to know they took advantage of you guys.
If you can cook, suggest to the girl you'll cook at your place or her place, if she says no, you know she's a scammer and not really interested in you.
That would be a strange request for a first or even 2nd date. But, if its a scammer playing the long game, and you ask this after you're already a couple? Then yeah she'd probably be a scammer if she still says no lol. Either that or she has no interest in cooking for her man. And in that case why would someone want her for a girlfriend?
You will never be scammed there again.
The money goes pockets of servers %99. In this kind of place, they copy credit cards of foreign tourists too. The owners never do that but some of the servers work for someone else. You never should use your credit card , especially if they dont bring the credit card charging machine to the table. Because credit card copy machine look different.
Have you had personal experience with that? I haven't heard that type of scam before, as in general my credit card has always been safe in Ukraine. It's more of the amount on the check that is the question.
I’ve never had an issue using Apple Pay.
it happens.. Never let the waiters take your credit card and go away. Always let them bring POS machine to the table
@@JohnnyFD I dont know if that happens in Ukraine. But its happens many places in world. I cant give links because youtube dont let me. You can read "credit card shimming" "credit card skimming" "credit card cloning" scams on google. And I personally knew some people working in very luxury restuarants, bars and doing that as a side job. They got arrested
Those girls look like they were from the Adams Family . lol .
gothic, you’ve never seen before in your life? 🧛♀️
@@froggylegspeople have you heard of a joke before ?
@@islander_kool_kat
I didn’t laugh
@@froggylegspeople i dont care.🤣🖕
I will eat at McDonalds thank you very much 😂😂😂
Totally agree.. chicks love a big Mac n fries 🍟
@@Simon-og5vy and if you talk to them they will be loving it da da da da daaaaaaa
Why Mcd. Puzata hata is far better and even cheaper...
If a girl expects you to take her to a fancy restaurant on a first date, doesn't that set off alarm bells? They are gold diggers, at best, scammers/criminals at worst. Certainly NOT marriage material. Avoid at all costs- if you just need to get laid, you can get an "escort" for less.
FWIW, I'm a multimillionaire, and I hate overpriced "fancy" restaurants in any event. The food is rarely worth the ridiculous cost. You'll have more fun at eating and having a few beers at a good BBQ joint, without all the pretentious BS. I can't even remember the last time I ate ate at a restaurant where the average bill per person cost more than $35.
You also got scammed with your steak, they gave you a lump of coal.
not only that he asked for a well done steak.
Thanks for this video Johny it was very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
This happens all over eastern europe, it happened to me in Budapest. The eastern european mentality is to charge anyone who is not from their country a premium. But to a fellow countryman they will charge a smaller amount. Just feels wrong.
I think other country restaurants are practicing it too. Thank You for the TIPS
I would love to know why the girl sitting at the end of the table looks so unhappy every time she appears on the video. She really isn't lovin' it.
Any good places you can recommend for a solo traveler
Malta is a good place to visit as a solo traveller also Prague is cheap and lots of things to do.
can recommend caribbean island Grenada, very friendly and relaxed people. You have seen it in a week though, a relatively small island. Maybe also go to Saint Lucia island as well if you want to spend more time :D
Some restraunts in Kyiv will show the menu of a meat dish, but they don’t say it’s the cost of only 100g. You order it because the price seems like a big dish. You order it and the food comes out with 200-300g so you don’t think you only paid for 100g. You think the price on the menu is what u got (200-300g). However the bill comes and it’s 2x-3x the cost of the dish due to more meat that they forced you to eat without knowing