Ali Waris, I am addressing you from Virginia. It’s a bitterly cold and frosty morning. Sitting in my family room by the fireplace with a cup of coffee, I’m listening to your podcast. Since nostalgia is being discussed, I find myself feeling nostalgic as well because the conversation revolves around Lahore, Krishnanagar, the film industry, Pakistan’s film industry, movie theaters, and Lakshmi Chowk. As cold as it is outside, this podcast has stirred a very warm feeling within me. Your beautiful, simple way of talking, combined with such informative and thoughtful questions, is truly delightful. Keep shining like this! Ali Shoaib Hasan
I am also watching from Maryland and really enjoying smart questions from Waris and Ishtiaq Sahib's insight story. Talk about nostalgia! Really enjoyed Ishtiaq Sahib gana. Lajavab
دنیا کا پہلا اینکر جو مہمان سے ذیادہ بولتا ھے۔ ڈاکٹر صاحب کو تو خواہی نخواہی زحمت دی ھے۔ بھائی ڈاکٹر صاحب ایک یونیورسٹی ھیں آپ نے فائدہ ھی نہیں اٹھایا۔
Very nice interview! Dr. Sahab's books on partition are available in chandigarh but sadly this is not available. Incidentally, I specially went to Punjab Book Centre for this book a day before this Interview. Very nostalgic. Lots of love and respect from Punjab ❤🙏
My Morning began with such a lovely nostalgic interview. I am from Gujranwala, moved to Lahore (NCA)... naturaly I was adicted to film and music. Lahore was right plac eto flurish my quest fo art, architecture and culture... visiting now and then Lahore but disappointed. Living in Denmark but roots are with punjab. Dear Warsi, I appreciate your contribution to my soul ;-)
السلام علیکم ورحمتہ اللہ پنجابییوں کا ھندی سینما پر اثر ،اشتیاق صاحب کا انٹرویو نہ صرف میں نے سنا بلکہ خاندانی گروپ کے علاؤہ دیگر ھم شوق افراد کو بھی بھیجا ۔ اس پروگرام خصوصاً ریڈیو سیلون بارے سننے پر تو لگا میں کہ میں ڈاکٹر اشتیاق ہوں اس کا ذکر بطورِ تاثرات کہ لگتا ہے ھم سب ڈاکٹر اشتیاق ہیں آگے بھی شیئر کیا،برائے کرم مجھے اشتیاق صاحب کا رابطہ بھیج دیں ان سے اور بہت کچھ پوچھنا ہے ویسے میں بھی بچپن میں لاہور آ گیا تھا اور جرمنی آنے کے ساتھ سال تک لاہور دماغ پر چھایا ہوا تھا اور ہے/ندیم ساہی
Doctor Saheb Sir God bless you. You have chronicled a facet of our common culture and aesthetics which brings us sigh of relief from the politics which is nothing but hatred. This topic is very close to every netizen of this region who loves art music and aesthetics. A great service 🎉
Ali warsi your questions ability and interview qualification is noble and unique with best wishes- Mohammad Ali Khalid freelance journalist Chicago Illinois USA 🇺🇸
Mr.warsi I have listened to each word of your interview with dr.sahib. I am much younger then dr.sahib, having been born in 1953. But my knowledge, and liking for the movies both indian and Pakistani is though not equal to him but little less. Though I was born in a backward place like jhang but I studied in government college Lahore for 4 years doing my intermediate and graduation from then and later, doing my l.l.b. from the adjacent p.u. law college. I saw my first movie, Bhai Bhai, in 1959 at the age of 6 years and after that there was no looking back. I grew up listening to the various programs of radio Ceylon, particularly Binaca geetmala, and commercials of ready to release films, in the megical voice of Amin sihani, which introduced me the new generation of actors, directors , music directors and other people associated with a particular film. Cutting it short I want to add or to say enlighten u about a few things, firstly, u saw Santosh Kumar in naila ,which was produced in 1965, by then he had put on a lot. He was definitely the most handsome actor of subcontinent if u see him in qatil, wada, saath lakh, mukhra, pattan and sarfrosh, all made in the fifties. To quote fareedon Irani the iconic cinematographer of India, Santosh had the most beautiful and photogenic face and smart figure in the sub continent film industry. Secondly, this is an admitted fact that the ancestral home of Kapoor family was smundri. They migrated to Peshawar after prithwi raj Kapoor got a job in Peshawar police. And lastely. Dev Anand writes about pre partition Lahore,in his autobiography, " romancing with life" that Lahore at that time was the most fashionable city of India, and government college was the best educational institution on this side of soyaz canal, and it's students were considered the elite of nation.
The language of Bollywood is predominantly Urdu. Before the partition Urdu was the language of the educated Punjabis and it was written in Nastaliq. The Hindu nationalists hate Urdu because it was historically associated with the Muslim culture and civilization in South Asia, and it also became the the language of the elite during the late Mughal period. There is a reason why the overwhelming majority of the Urdu poets and writers were Muslims. Calling it Hindi is an insult to both the Urdu language and the Muslim elite who created and nurtured it.
Just importing foreign words and foreign script does not make Hindi a non-Hindi language. Urdu is persianized Hindi, nothing else. Like the modern Hindi with English words mixed in by the modern elites, it could not be called a “new” language. All Hindi, all the time. Sorry that the pseudo folks want to call their brand of Hindi language not-Hindi.
@@priyamastibhati Urdu evolved as Persian and Arabic words were gradually incorporated into regional dialects like Braj Bhasha and Avadhi during the long Muslim rule, which is why Amir Khusro is often regarded as the first Urdu poet. Hindi, on the other hand did not emerge as a distinct language until the mid 19th century. The British officials at that time at Fort William College called upon Hindu Sanskrit scholars to create textbooks in local vernaculars. Encouraged by John Gilchrist, these scholars developed a new standardized language which became known as modern Hindi. This new form of Hindi was essentially a Sanskritized version of Urdu written in Nagri.
@ No need to peddle propaganda of the Urdu chauvinists. Braj Bhasha and Awadhi are regional dialects of the background khari boli Hindi in the northwest of India. Just sprinkling of arabi and farsi words does not make a “new” language. Hindi was, is, and will be the local language.Urdu a subset.
You can only see Bollywood is it ? Fake heroes from the entertainment world. The real ones are our scientists, doctors, industrialists & sportspersons. There are people from every community including muslims.
Bro, there at least 20% of Indian population is Muslim and much higher percentage in the city centres like Mumbai, in Pakistan Hindu population would be maximum 2-3% and most of them are living in distant areas far from city centres. That's just a simple statistical reality.
@shirazjaved8901 Punjabi shiks are Just 2-3% in India but they are top lvl singers and actors in India low population prove nothing. Your comment only prove hate against kaafirs
@@romeshsharma4305 that is not correct. The family was solidly Punjabi but business took them to Srinagar. I had a detailed discussion with Ramanand Sagar Sahib.
پاکستان کی فلم انڈسٹری بحال کرنی ہے تو انڈسٹری میں گجروں کے آنے پر پابندی لگا دیں۔ گجروں کا کام مویشی پالنا، دودھ دہی بیچنا ہے، میوزک بنانا، ڈانس ڈائیریکٹ کرنا اور فلمیں بنانا نہیں ۔۔
Each and every region or nation has achievements and contributions and should be respected however, Scientific contributions by any nation or region are the most significant of the global contributions. It is interesting to note that out of total 5 Noble laureates of subcontinent 3 were born in undivided Punjab.
Still today many Sikhs live in KP and Afghanistan and prefer to identify themselves as Pathans even though they are actually Punjabis who sometimes in the pasty migrated and settled in those areas.
Janab muaaf karna jdon da Arab lokan da manhoos mazhb or culture india de khitte ch aayea es ne beda garaq ditta baaki eh vehshi or bedard arbi mazhb jithe v es ne apne manhoos qadam rakhe os mulq or muashre da veda garaq ho gya
Kapoors were from Peshawar as stated by Prithvi Raj Kapoor in his detailed interview on radio in early 1970s. His grandfather Lala Keshavmal was posted in Samundari in Revenue Department when present-day KPK was part of Punjab. Prithvi Raj was taken to Samundri when his mother died. He returned to Peshawar later.
@@14aftabahmad KPK was forcibly made part of Punjab for a short period. One can see huge differences of culture, food, folklore, rituals,language and RACE. Its all Central Asia.
Then why Raj Kapoor and family are calling themselves Pathans? Over 90% of the Pathans look like Kapoors and better, but over 90% of Punjabis look swarthy. In any case Punjabis should stick to sports and entertainment. They are bad politicians, businessmen and fighters. Pakistan was ruined by Punjabi fauj and punjabi bureaucracy. All beggars caught in Dubai and Saudi are Punjabis. The grooming gangs and pimps caught in London are Punjabis. The other nations in Pakistan are are bearing the brunt.
بولو کم سنو ذیادہ - یہ بات سب سے زیادہ میزبان پر اطلاق پاتی ہے یہ میزبان مکمل نا بلد ہے اگر بولنے کا اتنا شوق ہے تو اکیلے پروگرام کر لو یا کسی کے پروگرام میں مہمان بن کر بولو
Professor ishtiaq ahmed interview about music and cinema industry. Pragmatic interview and nice questions and answers- Mohammad Ali Khalid freelance journalist Chicago USA 🇺🇸 convey my Salam to professor ishtiaq ahmed
Munshi Premchand ne Urdu aur Hindi dono me likha and is considered the best story teller in India in both these said languages.But we have never heard his name from Pakistan may be because he was not a Muslim
Guru Nanak Dev ji ne Hindi , Panjabi , Sanskrit aur Farsi me likha hai ..... aur bhi 500 saal pehle ... jab koyi Radio , TV , Internet nahin tha ......🤔🤔
@raviinder6406 Guru Nanak didn’t write anything in Sanskrit, and Hindi don’t exist back than. He wrote primarily in Punjabi, and some portion in Arabic, Persian and Hindustani which was the vernacular form of Urdu.
I don't know what you have been smoking, I have been hearing in my school and college the references to Premchand since being in 5th Standard, whenever Urdu literature has been discussed. Anyone who has a little interest in Urdu literature, his is a household name.
You forgot to mention Mr Gulzar from Dina also visited his home n Manoj Kumar was from Abbotbad he also visited here. Rohan Laal from Gujranwala. Vinod Khana from Peshawar. Kamini Kaushal was from Lahore. Shayama n many others went from here.
Then why Raj Kapoor and family are calling themselves Pathans? In any case Punjabis should stick to sports and entertainment. They are bad politicians, businessmen and fighters. Pakistan was ruined by Punjabi fauj and punjabi bureaucracy.
ہمارے مولوی صاحب نے ہمیں منع کیا ہوا تھا کہ جہلم جائیں تو پوسٹر دیکھنے بھی نہ جائیں۔ میں نے خود میٹرک تک کوئی فلم نہیں دیکھنی تھی۔ میں نے پہلی فلم 1961 میں دیکھی جو "سہیلی" تھی۔ اس وقت میں کالج میں تھا۔
پروگرام کے شروع میں ٹوٹے ٹوٹے کر کے اہم باتیں سنا کر سمجھا جاتا ہے دیکھنے والا گوند کی طرح چپک جائے گا تو جناب ایسا نہیں دیکھنے والا چڑ جاتا ہے اکثر تو شروع میں ہی لوگ بھاگ جاتے ہیں باقی تیز تیز آگے پیچھے کر کے دیکھ کر بدمزگی کے ساتھ اگلی دفعہ ایسے چینل کو نہیں دیکھتے نقصان چینل والے کا ہوتا ہے لوگ پسند یہی کرتے ہیں کہ براہ راست بغیر کسی تمہید کے میزبان پروگرام شروع کرے امید ہے آپ سمجھ جائیں گے وقت کے ساتھ پبلک موڈ بدلتا جاتا ہے جو نبض پر ہاتھ رکھے گا وہی کامیاب
There should be no embargo, ban or restrictions on cultural activities e.g. old indian songs on FM radio, cinema films, cultural activities, regional trade etc, right? Plz correct me if I am wrong. Thanks
Some Punjabis may be good looking but as a group the Pathans are often considered the most attractive, followed by the Balochs, certain people from the northern areas, and those living between the Indus and Jhelum rivers. Another observation I've made about Sindhis is that they typically have oval shaped faces and that unique darker skin tone that is common among Punjabis from central Punjab is less prevalent among them.
Ali warsi when atal behari bajpai was decided to meet Nawaz Sharif in Lahore after Kargil war . Nawaz Sharif requested bajpai to include devanand in your delegation and devanand visit that time with bajpai and meet Nawaz Sharif- Mohammad Ali Khalid freelance journalist Chicago USA 🇺🇸
I had a strong disagreement with the guest on the two-nation theory and then on the personality of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah. I don't want to describe its details here. Just one sentence. If families of different religions can live together in the neighborhood. So why can't two countries live without challenging the reasons for existence of a separate nation. Muslims are a separate nation but they also are neighbours, so let's live together and solve the problems instead of re -writing the same history of 76 years.
میرا مہمان سے ہمشہ شدید اختلاف رہا ہے دو قومی نظریہ پر اور پھر اس کے ساتھ قاید اعظم محمد علی جناح کی شخصیت کے بارے میں ۔ میں اسکی تفصیلات یہاں نہیں بیان کرنا چاہتا ۔صرف ایک جملہ۔ اگر ہمسایگی میں مختلف مذاہب کے خاندان مل کر رہ سکتے ہیں ۔ تو دو ممالک کیوں نہیں رہ سکتے بٹوارہ کی رٹ لگائے بغیر ۔مسلمان الگ قوم ہے لیکن ہمسایہ ہے یعنی محلے دار ہے تو آو مل کر رہتے ہیں مسائل کو حل کرتے ہیں بجاے اس کے کہ 76 سال کی اب آیک نی تاریخ لکھنے لگیں کہ جو کچھ ہوا سب غلط ہوا۔
ہم قومی سطح پر دوغلے پن کا شکار ہیں فلم تو جسٹں ایک کہانی اور تفریح تھی لوگوں کے لئے ہم نے اس کو بھی کیسے الزام لگا کر بند کرا دیا ایرانی بہترین فلمیں بنا رہیے ہیں
Film ka Certificate tou Hindi mein Diya jaata hai, Kaikin 90 percent Urdu hi Mukilmey hotey hain.Galiban Ek wahed Producer Janab Nasir Hussain Sajeb hain, Jo Apni Har Film k liey Urdu certificate se film release kartey hain!!!!
Dear All, Pakistan Cinema hit massively by the debacle of Dhaka! It meant not only in smaller market but also in the drain of talent mostly worked behind the camera!
Now getting whole credit dr istiaq sir not only Punjab contribution our diverse Sanatani culture who provide positive atmospheric one upon time lahore was like mumbai film industry your Islamic invade destroy society, country, culture Even Pakistan side Punjabi should ashamed where punjabi language is nighter studied in school nor speaking right in parliament s how can you said yourself punjabi , come Indian side punjab you can fill what is real Punjab
What an extraordinary guest. Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed is a great thinker and writer. But what a fair singer he is too. I have had the pleasure of meeting him in Delhi early this year. I look forward to his views on UA-cam and his books 😊
@ 13:20 I need to correct you. Urdu, also known as Lashkari Zaban, originated in the army camps, around Delhi in the 12th Century, as a pidgin dialect of Hindvi (old HIndi), spoken by Persian and Turk soldiers in other words, Hindi with large Arabic, Persian and Turkic vocabulary. The grammatical structure of Hindi and Urdu is identical. However, modern Hindi has mainly Sanskrit vocabulary, and Urdu originally had Persian and Turkish. The Persian term, Zaban-i-Urdu means the language of the camps. In Turkish, Ordu, meaning the language of Hordes. Pakistanis have corrupted Urdu, by replacing Persian and Turkish by Arabic vocabulary and partially Arabic grammatical structure. Today, Pakistani Urdu is an inferior pidgin dialect of Hindi and Arabic - not the real Urdu.
@Sindhi001 Are you another troll from the wrong side of the border? Your knowledge about the history of Urdu is apparently as pathetic as your proficiency in English. The newly arrived Muslims referred to all the Prakrit dialects spoken between Punjab and Bengal as Hindavi not only because they were unable to distinguish between them - those dialects were also much more similar to each other than they are today. You’re talking baloney here as Urdu spoken today is similar to the one spoken by Ghalib or Sir Syed in the mid of the 19th century, no one has replaced the Persian and Turkish words with Arabic. Hindi was still a glimmer of hope in the eyes of the Hindu nationalists when Urdu was thriving and had become the lingua franca of much of the northern part of South Asia. Try again!!!
@Sindhi001 The Muslims who came here during the Delhi Sultanate referred to all the Prakrit dialects spoken between Punjab and Bengal as Hindavi not only because they were unable to distinguish between them - those dialects were also much more similar to each other than they are today. Urdu spoken today is similar to the one spoken by Ghalib or Sir Syed in the mid of the 19th century, no one has replaced the Persian and Turkish words with Arabic. Hindi was still a glimmer of hope in the eyes of the Hindu nationalists when Urdu was flourishing and thriving, and had become the lingua franca of much of the northern part of South Asia. Try again!!!
Mr anchor. Your research is zero...prithvi raj kapoor was born in samundri district lyallpur...He studied also in lyallpur.He is punjab from his ancestors. For other reasons he located to peshawar which can not snatch his punjab origin....
ڈاکٹر صآحب پنجاب کے فیوڈل سٹرکن ایریاز پر بھی لکھیں ان علاقوں کے مقامی لوگوں کو تقسیم کا فائدہ نہیں ہوا وہ آج بھی اپنے گھر کی جگہ نہیں رکھتے ان کی رہکی کرتے ہیں صرف روٹی پر کام کرنے کو مجبور ہیں بلکہ اب تو شاید روٹی بھی پوری نہیں ہو سکتی
Bewaqufun ki jannat me raho hamesha punjabi sindhi pashtu me bollywood indian cinema me Bengali k influence zyada raha but they don't highlight it because we are indians first
He said he's Hussaini Brahmin. You can try and google this. He was not Muslim. Nobody said Sunil Dutt or any other Dutt is a Muslim simply because they're Dutt.
Obviously you guys like the minority appeasement policies of the previous Indian govts! If this is majoritarian it’s in response to the minority appeasement of the earlier govt. every action etc etc
Ali Waris, I am addressing you from Virginia. It’s a bitterly cold and frosty morning. Sitting in my family room by the fireplace with a cup of coffee, I’m listening to your podcast. Since nostalgia is being discussed, I find myself feeling nostalgic as well because the conversation revolves around Lahore, Krishnanagar, the film industry, Pakistan’s film industry, movie theaters, and Lakshmi Chowk.
As cold as it is outside, this podcast has stirred a very warm feeling within me. Your beautiful, simple way of talking, combined with such informative and thoughtful questions, is truly delightful. Keep shining like this!
Ali Shoaib Hasan
I am also watching from Maryland and really enjoying smart questions from Waris and Ishtiaq Sahib's insight story. Talk about nostalgia! Really enjoyed Ishtiaq Sahib gana. Lajavab
One can take a man out of Lahore, but no one take Lahore out of a man. A Lahorite from in London, UK
Thanks a lot for your kind words, sir
دنیا کا پہلا اینکر جو مہمان سے ذیادہ بولتا ھے۔ ڈاکٹر صاحب کو تو خواہی نخواہی زحمت دی ھے۔ بھائی ڈاکٹر صاحب ایک یونیورسٹی ھیں آپ نے فائدہ ھی نہیں اٹھایا۔
Very nice interview! Dr. Sahab's books on partition are available in chandigarh but sadly this is not available. Incidentally, I specially went to Punjab Book Centre for this book a day before this Interview. Very nostalgic. Lots of love and respect from Punjab ❤🙏
Thank you Ali Waris for doing this amazing Podcast. Dr Ishtiaq ahmed is amazing.
Thank you for such a beautiful interview ❤️
My Morning began with such a lovely nostalgic interview. I am from Gujranwala, moved to Lahore (NCA)... naturaly I was adicted to film and music. Lahore was right plac eto flurish my quest fo art, architecture and culture... visiting now and then Lahore but disappointed. Living in Denmark but roots are with punjab.
Dear Warsi, I appreciate your contribution to my soul ;-)
السلام علیکم ورحمتہ اللہ
پنجابییوں کا ھندی سینما پر اثر ،اشتیاق صاحب کا انٹرویو نہ صرف میں نے سنا بلکہ خاندانی گروپ کے علاؤہ دیگر ھم شوق افراد کو بھی بھیجا ۔
اس پروگرام خصوصاً ریڈیو سیلون بارے سننے پر تو لگا میں کہ میں ڈاکٹر اشتیاق ہوں اس کا ذکر بطورِ تاثرات کہ لگتا ہے ھم سب ڈاکٹر اشتیاق ہیں آگے بھی شیئر کیا،برائے کرم مجھے اشتیاق صاحب کا رابطہ بھیج دیں ان سے اور بہت کچھ پوچھنا ہے ویسے میں بھی بچپن میں لاہور آ گیا تھا اور جرمنی آنے کے ساتھ سال تک لاہور دماغ پر چھایا ہوا تھا اور ہے/ندیم ساہی
" ھم شوق " کے بجائے " ھم مزاج" ھم خیال" لوگوں' لکھنا مناسب رھے گا۔
@NadeemSahi-hn4gu
خدا خیر رکھے ڈاکٹر اشتیاق صاحب کی
😂
Doctor Saheb
Sir God bless you. You have chronicled a facet of our common culture and aesthetics which brings us sigh of relief from the politics which is nothing but hatred. This topic is very close to every netizen of this region who loves art music and aesthetics. A great service 🎉
Ali warsi your questions ability and interview qualification is noble and unique with best wishes- Mohammad Ali Khalid freelance journalist Chicago Illinois USA 🇺🇸
Pro Ishtiyak Ahmad sahib tuhanu dil diyan gehrayian chon salam from Talwandi sabo zilah Bathinda charhda Punjab India 🇮🇳
Mr.warsi I have listened to each word of your interview with dr.sahib. I am much younger then dr.sahib, having been born in 1953. But my knowledge, and liking for the movies both indian and Pakistani is though not equal to him but little less. Though I was born in a backward place like jhang but I studied in government college Lahore for 4 years doing my intermediate and graduation from then and later, doing my l.l.b. from the adjacent p.u. law college. I saw my first movie, Bhai Bhai, in 1959 at the age of 6 years and after that there was no looking back. I grew up listening to the various programs of radio Ceylon, particularly Binaca geetmala, and commercials of ready to release films, in the megical voice of Amin sihani, which introduced me the new generation of actors, directors , music directors and other people associated with a particular film. Cutting it short I want to add or to say enlighten u about a few things, firstly, u saw Santosh Kumar in naila ,which was produced in 1965, by then he had put on a lot. He was definitely the most handsome actor of subcontinent if u see him in qatil, wada, saath lakh, mukhra, pattan and sarfrosh, all made in the fifties. To quote fareedon Irani the iconic cinematographer of India, Santosh had the most beautiful and photogenic face and smart figure in the sub continent film industry. Secondly, this is an admitted fact that the ancestral home of Kapoor family was smundri. They migrated to Peshawar after prithwi raj Kapoor got a job in Peshawar police. And lastely. Dev Anand writes about pre partition Lahore,in his autobiography, " romancing with life" that Lahore at that time was the most fashionable city of India, and government college was the best educational institution on this side of soyaz canal, and it's students were considered the elite of nation.
Enjoying it. Please do more such programmes.
The language of Bollywood is predominantly Urdu. Before the partition Urdu was the language of the educated Punjabis and it was written in Nastaliq.
The Hindu nationalists hate Urdu because it was historically associated with the Muslim culture and civilization in South Asia, and it also became the the language of the elite during the late Mughal period. There is a reason why the overwhelming majority of the Urdu poets and writers were Muslims. Calling it Hindi is an insult to both the Urdu language and the Muslim elite who created and nurtured it.
Just importing foreign words and foreign script does not make Hindi a non-Hindi language. Urdu is persianized Hindi, nothing else. Like the modern Hindi with English words mixed in by the modern elites, it could not be called a “new” language. All Hindi, all the time. Sorry that the pseudo folks want to call their brand of Hindi language not-Hindi.
@@priyamastibhati Urdu evolved as Persian and Arabic words were gradually incorporated into regional dialects like Braj Bhasha and Avadhi during the long Muslim rule, which is why Amir Khusro is often regarded as the first Urdu poet.
Hindi, on the other hand did not emerge as a distinct language until the mid 19th century. The British officials at that time at Fort William College called upon Hindu Sanskrit scholars to create textbooks in local vernaculars. Encouraged by John Gilchrist, these scholars developed a new standardized language which became known as modern Hindi. This new form of Hindi was essentially a Sanskritized version of Urdu written in Nagri.
@ No need to peddle propaganda of the Urdu chauvinists. Braj Bhasha and Awadhi are regional dialects of the background khari boli Hindi in the northwest of India. Just sprinkling of arabi and farsi words does not make a “new” language. Hindi was, is, and will be the local language.Urdu a subset.
@@User-b-o9h if you don't know history of Hindustani then first read it.. don't need to spread your propaganda
@@priyamastibhatiI will suggest watch nityanand Mishra video on Urdu and Hindi..
Very informative and interesting talk
Great discussion muje yaad he dr. Sab ki trah me b radio saloon 7 to 7.30 sunta tha phir sachool. ❤
Muslims in India are top stars like sharuk Khan, Salman Khan, Amir Khan and saif ali Khan but not a single hindu super star in Pakistan so shame
You can only see Bollywood is it ? Fake heroes from the entertainment world. The real ones are our scientists, doctors, industrialists & sportspersons. There are people from every community including muslims.
Bro, there at least 20% of Indian population is Muslim and much higher percentage in the city centres like Mumbai, in Pakistan Hindu population would be maximum 2-3% and most of them are living in distant areas far from city centres. That's just a simple statistical reality.
@shirazjaved8901 😂 hindus in Pakistan 1947 to 1971 are 24% that time also no hindu superstars in Pakistan
@shirazjaved8901 Punjabi shiks are Just 2-3% in India but they are top lvl singers and actors in India low population prove nothing. Your comment only prove hate against kaafirs
@ Yes it’s 2-3 % NOW bro. Was 23% in 1947, the Hindu population in Pak. That’s the fact.
Another belter from Dr Istiaq Ahmed. He is a deeply rooted with the culture and cinema of this reason. Pragmatic and nostalgic discussion.😊
Ramanand Sagar in fact was from Srinagar, Kashmir and had shifted to Punjab
@@romeshsharma4305 that is not correct. The family was solidly Punjabi but business took them to Srinagar. I had a detailed discussion with Ramanand Sagar Sahib.
پاکستان کی فلم انڈسٹری بحال کرنی ہے تو انڈسٹری میں گجروں کے آنے پر پابندی لگا دیں۔ گجروں کا کام مویشی پالنا، دودھ دہی بیچنا ہے، میوزک بنانا، ڈانس ڈائیریکٹ کرنا اور فلمیں بنانا نہیں ۔۔
Each and every region or nation has achievements and contributions and should be respected however, Scientific contributions by any nation or region are the most significant of the global contributions. It is interesting to note that out of total 5 Noble laureates of subcontinent 3 were born in undivided Punjab.
Still today many Sikhs live in KP and Afghanistan and prefer to identify themselves as Pathans even though they are actually Punjabis who sometimes in the pasty migrated and settled in those areas.
I wonder why they dont call themselves as Punjabis?
@User-b-o9h this is for their protection let them own what they want yeah they're Punjabies
@@StayFocused-m4w@StayFocused-m4w It's not about protection, it's about superior culture, language and food. No gaali galoch, rape culture.
@@farzandali5006Not all Sikhs are Punjabis.
Janab muaaf karna jdon da Arab lokan da manhoos mazhb or culture india de khitte ch aayea es ne beda garaq ditta baaki eh vehshi or bedard arbi mazhb jithe v es ne apne manhoos qadam rakhe os mulq or muashre da veda garaq ho gya
Kapoors are basically Punjabis and were in Peshawar due to the posting of in government service
Kapoors were from Peshawar as stated by Prithvi Raj Kapoor in his detailed interview on radio in early 1970s. His grandfather Lala Keshavmal was posted in Samundari in Revenue Department when present-day KPK was part of Punjab. Prithvi Raj was taken to Samundri when his mother died. He returned to Peshawar later.
The Kapoors are very much Pashtuns or Pathans. the confusion comes from the fact that they spoke Hindko, which is a dialect of Punjabi and not Pashto.
@@14aftabahmad KPK was forcibly made part of Punjab for a short period. One can see huge differences of culture, food, folklore, rituals,language and RACE. Its all Central Asia.
Then why Raj Kapoor and family are calling themselves Pathans? Over 90% of the Pathans look like Kapoors and better, but over 90% of Punjabis look swarthy. In any case Punjabis should stick to sports and entertainment. They are bad politicians, businessmen and fighters. Pakistan was ruined by Punjabi fauj and punjabi bureaucracy. All beggars caught in Dubai and Saudi are Punjabis. The grooming gangs and pimps caught in London are Punjabis. The other nations in Pakistan are are bearing the brunt.
@@mariamtee delulu
بولو کم سنو ذیادہ - یہ بات سب سے زیادہ میزبان پر اطلاق پاتی ہے
یہ میزبان مکمل نا بلد ہے
اگر بولنے کا اتنا شوق ہے تو اکیلے پروگرام کر لو یا کسی کے پروگرام میں مہمان بن کر بولو
Professor ishtiaq ahmed interview about music and cinema industry. Pragmatic interview and nice questions and answers- Mohammad Ali Khalid freelance journalist Chicago USA 🇺🇸 convey my Salam to professor ishtiaq ahmed
Persian + awdhi=URDU
After
Persian+khadi boli=URDU
Amir khusrow
How can I buy this book?
NAWAZ WENT INDIA AS PM DID MEET VD INDIAN ACTORS BUT DIDNT ALLOW KASHMIRI LEADERS TO HIM JUST NONSENSE N RIDICULOUS N PATHETIC TOO 😊😅😢😂😂😂😂
Thanks Dr shaab do nice thing. Thanks 😊
Munshi Premchand ne Urdu aur Hindi dono me likha and is considered the best story teller in India in both these said languages.But we have never heard his name from Pakistan may be because he was not a Muslim
Munshi premchand work remained part of Urdu text books in syllabus
Guru Nanak Dev ji ne Hindi , Panjabi , Sanskrit aur Farsi me likha hai ..... aur bhi 500 saal pehle ... jab koyi Radio , TV , Internet nahin tha ......🤔🤔
@raviinder6406 Guru Nanak didn’t write anything in Sanskrit, and Hindi don’t exist back than. He wrote primarily in Punjabi, and some portion in Arabic, Persian and Hindustani which was the vernacular form of Urdu.
Your bad sir, we had many of Munishi Premchand’s stories in our Urdu course and still his stories are taught in schools and colleges
I don't know what you have been smoking, I have been hearing in my school and college the references to Premchand since being in 5th Standard, whenever Urdu literature has been discussed. Anyone who has a little interest in Urdu literature, his is a household name.
You forgot to mention Mr Gulzar from Dina also visited his home n Manoj Kumar was from Abbotbad he also visited here. Rohan Laal from Gujranwala. Vinod Khana from Peshawar. Kamini Kaushal was from Lahore. Shayama n many others went from here.
Loving it. Thanks
Then why Raj Kapoor and family are calling themselves Pathans? In any case Punjabis should stick to sports and entertainment. They are bad politicians, businessmen and fighters. Pakistan was ruined by Punjabi fauj and punjabi bureaucracy.
Punjabi's have served URDU very honestly and very rightfully
Without the support of Pakistani Punjabis Urdu would have died long time ago.
In your dreams😂😂😂
ہمارے مولوی صاحب نے ہمیں منع کیا ہوا تھا کہ جہلم جائیں تو پوسٹر دیکھنے بھی نہ جائیں۔ میں نے خود میٹرک تک کوئی فلم نہیں دیکھنی تھی۔ میں نے پہلی فلم 1961 میں دیکھی جو "سہیلی" تھی۔ اس وقت میں کالج میں تھا۔
I can argue that Bengalis had even bigger influence on the Indian film industry than Punjabis. So many pioneering musicians came from Bengal.
Yes this very true, because Bengal was very radical and prompt to new experimentation
Both have their different but equally important influence. Gujarat s influence is from financial part because most of film financers were Gujarati.
Tassub Pasand Punjabi 😂😂😂
آیا ہے، پھر یاد وہ ظالم زمانہ کالج کا، جب قمیص اتار کر سینما کے ٹکٹ گھر کی گھڑکی تک پہنچنے کے لیے زور آزمائی کرتے تھے۔
پروگرام کے شروع میں ٹوٹے ٹوٹے کر کے اہم باتیں سنا کر سمجھا جاتا ہے دیکھنے والا گوند کی طرح چپک جائے گا تو جناب ایسا نہیں دیکھنے والا چڑ جاتا ہے اکثر تو شروع میں ہی لوگ بھاگ جاتے ہیں باقی تیز تیز آگے پیچھے کر کے دیکھ کر بدمزگی کے ساتھ
اگلی دفعہ ایسے چینل کو نہیں دیکھتے
نقصان چینل والے کا ہوتا ہے
لوگ پسند یہی کرتے ہیں کہ براہ راست بغیر کسی تمہید کے میزبان پروگرام شروع کرے
امید ہے آپ سمجھ جائیں گے
وقت کے ساتھ پبلک موڈ بدلتا جاتا ہے
جو نبض پر ہاتھ رکھے گا وہی کامیاب
So informative
تو آپ ان کے مسلمان ہونے پہ فخر کر رہے ہیں۔
حالانکہ ان کا پروفیشن دیں کے خلاف بغاوت تھی
Very very sad to say that every indian artist converting in to Punjabi,It seems that only panjabi is living in Pakistan and Punjab is pakistan
There should be no embargo, ban or restrictions on cultural activities e.g. old indian songs on FM radio, cinema films, cultural activities, regional trade etc, right?
Plz correct me if I am wrong. Thanks
Some Punjabis may be good looking but as a group the Pathans are often considered the most attractive, followed by the Balochs, certain people from the northern areas, and those living between the Indus and Jhelum rivers. Another observation I've made about Sindhis is that they typically have oval shaped faces and that unique darker skin tone that is common among Punjabis from central Punjab is less prevalent among them.
@@User-b-o9h Most of the super popular 50s Hindi Cinema leading men were Punjabi Khatris and Pathans. Dilip Kumar was a Hindko speaking Pathan.
Ali warsi when atal behari bajpai was decided to meet Nawaz Sharif in Lahore after Kargil war . Nawaz Sharif requested bajpai to include devanand in your delegation and devanand visit that time with bajpai and meet Nawaz Sharif- Mohammad Ali Khalid freelance journalist Chicago USA 🇺🇸
I had a strong disagreement with the guest on the two-nation theory and then on the personality of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah. I don't want to describe its details here. Just one sentence. If families of different religions can live together in the neighborhood.
So why can't two countries live without challenging the reasons for existence of a separate nation. Muslims are a separate nation but they also are neighbours, so let's live together and solve the problems instead of re -writing the same history of 76 years.
میرا مہمان سے ہمشہ شدید اختلاف رہا ہے دو قومی نظریہ پر اور پھر اس کے ساتھ قاید اعظم محمد علی جناح کی شخصیت کے بارے میں ۔ میں اسکی تفصیلات یہاں نہیں بیان کرنا چاہتا ۔صرف ایک جملہ۔ اگر ہمسایگی میں مختلف مذاہب کے خاندان مل کر رہ سکتے ہیں ۔
تو دو ممالک کیوں نہیں رہ سکتے بٹوارہ کی رٹ لگائے بغیر ۔مسلمان الگ قوم ہے لیکن ہمسایہ ہے یعنی محلے دار ہے تو آو مل کر رہتے ہیں مسائل کو حل کرتے ہیں بجاے اس کے کہ 76 سال کی اب آیک نی تاریخ لکھنے لگیں کہ جو کچھ ہوا سب غلط ہوا۔
ہم قومی سطح پر دوغلے پن کا شکار ہیں فلم تو جسٹں ایک کہانی اور تفریح تھی لوگوں کے لئے ہم نے اس کو بھی کیسے الزام لگا کر بند کرا دیا ایرانی بہترین فلمیں بنا رہیے ہیں
" برائے کرم " نہیں بلکہ " براہ کرم " ھونا چاھیئے۔
Film ka Certificate tou Hindi mein Diya jaata hai, Kaikin 90 percent Urdu hi Mukilmey hotey hain.Galiban Ek wahed Producer Janab Nasir Hussain Sajeb hain, Jo Apni Har Film k liey Urdu certificate se film release kartey hain!!!!
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Dear All, Pakistan Cinema hit massively by the debacle of Dhaka!
It meant not only in smaller market but also in the drain of talent mostly worked behind the camera!
Now getting whole credit dr istiaq sir not only Punjab contribution our diverse Sanatani culture who provide positive atmospheric one upon time lahore was like mumbai film industry your Islamic invade destroy society, country, culture
Even Pakistan side Punjabi should ashamed where punjabi language is nighter studied in school nor speaking right in parliament s how can you said yourself punjabi , come Indian side punjab you can fill what is real Punjab
زبان کی بنیاد پر نفرت کر نا دوسری زبان والو ں سے تو یہ لعنت ہے ۔زبان صرف محبت پھیلا ے تو عظیم ہے
What an extraordinary guest. Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed is a great thinker and writer. But what a fair singer he is too. I have had the pleasure of meeting him in Delhi early this year. I look forward to his views on UA-cam and his books 😊
@ 13:20 I need to correct you. Urdu, also known as Lashkari Zaban, originated in the army camps, around Delhi in the 12th Century, as a pidgin dialect of Hindvi (old HIndi), spoken by Persian and Turk soldiers in other words, Hindi with large Arabic, Persian and Turkic vocabulary. The grammatical structure of Hindi and Urdu is identical. However, modern Hindi has mainly Sanskrit vocabulary, and Urdu originally had Persian and Turkish. The Persian term, Zaban-i-Urdu means the language of the camps. In Turkish, Ordu, meaning the language of Hordes. Pakistanis have corrupted Urdu, by replacing Persian and Turkish by Arabic vocabulary and partially Arabic grammatical structure. Today, Pakistani Urdu is an inferior pidgin dialect of Hindi and Arabic - not the real Urdu.
You need to read more on the subject. Get hold of Dr Tariq Rahman's "From Hindi to Urdu". It should help you deal with these commonly held beliefs.
@Sindhi001
Are you another troll from the wrong side of the border? Your knowledge about the history of Urdu is apparently as pathetic as your proficiency in English. The newly arrived Muslims referred to all the Prakrit dialects spoken between Punjab and Bengal as Hindavi not only because they were unable to distinguish between them - those dialects were also much more similar to each other than they are today. You’re talking baloney here as Urdu spoken today is similar to the one spoken by Ghalib or Sir Syed in the mid of the 19th century, no one has replaced the Persian and Turkish words with Arabic. Hindi was still a glimmer of hope in the eyes of the Hindu nationalists when Urdu was thriving and had become the lingua franca of much of the northern part of South Asia. Try again!!!
@Sindhi001
The Muslims who came here during the Delhi Sultanate referred to all the Prakrit dialects spoken between Punjab and Bengal as Hindavi not only because they were unable to distinguish between them - those dialects were also much more similar to each other than they are today. Urdu spoken today is similar to the one spoken by Ghalib or Sir Syed in the mid of the 19th century, no one has replaced the Persian and Turkish words with Arabic. Hindi was still a glimmer of hope in the eyes of the Hindu nationalists when Urdu was flourishing and thriving, and had become the lingua franca of much of the northern part of South Asia. Try again!!!
India should keep Pakistan as far as possible....India should compete with genuine sensible countries like China and Japan.....
India would have to vacate Punjab, Rajasthan, Jammu and Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh, and Gujrat to stay away from Pakistan.
V good Ali sab
Border was very nationalist film, what is wright wing?
Says a Patel 😂😂😂
@@Malik-lh4jhsays a muslim😂
But Ishaque sb Lahore was not burnt by anyone except Lahori and I am wondering what is the need of this subject and any benefits???
ویڈیو دیکھ اور سنکر بلکہ پی کر میں اپنے کمرے میں اکیلے بہت ہی رویا پتہ نہیں چلا کہ یہ کیفیت مجھ پر کیوں کر طاری ہوا عرفان خیبر پختونخوا
Mr anchor. Your research is zero...prithvi raj kapoor was born in samundri district lyallpur...He studied also in lyallpur.He is punjab from his ancestors. For other reasons he located to peshawar which can not snatch his punjab origin....
Absolutely kapoor's bascilly Kshatriya. The gothra kapoor is from Rai/Roy rajput community
They were just using the slang "Khan"
For example famous actor Aditya Roy kapoor
43:59 bakwaas. It's also prove muslims show fake respect to Hindus gods
Likewise 😂😂😂
@@Malik-lh4jhalways started by musl..then other religion follows😂
۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔۔ فلم انڈسٹری چاہے پاکستان کی ہو یا انڈیا کی
پنجابیوں نے فلم کے ہر شعبے میں نمایاں کردار ادا کیا ہے
بھئ مہمان بولنے کے لئے بلایا تھا یا اپنا فلسفہ جھاڑنے کے لئے۔۔۔۔حد ہے بھئ کہ پڑھا لکھا بندہ بھی اتنی عقل اور فہم نہیں رکھتا کہ میزبان کیسے بنا جاتا۔
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Lahour hai ya Laahore hai?
Ali Warsi, could you please speak less?
ڈاکٹر صآحب پنجاب کے فیوڈل سٹرکن ایریاز پر بھی لکھیں ان علاقوں کے مقامی لوگوں کو تقسیم کا فائدہ نہیں ہوا وہ آج بھی اپنے گھر کی جگہ نہیں رکھتے ان کی رہکی کرتے ہیں صرف روٹی پر کام کرنے کو مجبور ہیں بلکہ اب تو شاید روٹی بھی پوری نہیں ہو سکتی
Us ko mashoor hone ka Shaukh Hai aur India ki Chaplusi karney ka aur umer ke Akari hesay main Allah Allah karney ki Bajai Mirasi baney hein.
Manoj kumar raaj kumar saheb
Bewaqufun ki jannat me raho hamesha punjabi sindhi pashtu me bollywood indian cinema me Bengali k influence zyada raha but they don't highlight it because we are indians first
Tassub Pasand Punjabi
😅😂 Garrison state.
Bakwaas. Interview ka ghatiya tareeqa
I don’t know why but this guy comes over as a pseudo intellectual.
Chaplus intellectual 😂😂😂
Arre bhai ab Sunil Dutt ko bhi musalman bana diya. Meri subcaste bhi Dutt hai from Brahman caste ,but we are Sanatani ( Hindu) only and not Muslims
He said he's Hussaini Brahmin. You can try and google this. He was not Muslim. Nobody said Sunil Dutt or any other Dutt is a Muslim simply because they're Dutt.
Tassub Pasand Punjabi Chaplusi
@@Malik-lh4jh Hindustani matras crying
@basitawan5959 truth is bitter Paindu
@Malik-lh4jh Hindustani matrey bhaiye don't cry
Obviously you guys like the minority appeasement policies of the previous Indian govts! If this is majoritarian it’s in response to the minority appeasement of the earlier govt. every action etc etc