To be fair, it should be noted that one was cheap cause it was old, and the other was cheap cause it was cheap.... Technically, the Mac was a premium $1000 product that's being sold for $600.....
@@aarspar But are there a lot in stores ? Or even at all ? Because that's the thing, I usually only find current and possibly last gen products when I go to stores. Or when there are older PC, there is barely any discount on them, they're just traps for unaware customers. I don't live in the US and never go to Walmart, so maybe things are different there, but I wouldn't be surprised if this Macbook was actually one of the good value proposition compared to what's on their shelves.
@@hectorvivis3651 Same here; I don't live in the US, so I can't say for them. Where I'm from, many Walmart-like big stores also sell older, last gen products alongside the newest ones, maybe to also clear out old stocks. Or maybe they can also browse up on Amazon or something. I would imagine it's almost the same thing in the US--I mean I'm pretty sure they're more tech-savvy about buying stuff online.
In 2024 512gb is pretty low still, kind of like "this 300 sqft apartement is only slightly more spacious than this 150 sqft one", yes it's double, but it isn't that much bigger in absolute terms.
These laptops are targeted for students. Most students do everything in the cloud now. I had 128gb MacBook Air for the last 9 years and it just didn’t matter. I never stored anything on it. It was a machine for word processing, watching UA-cam, and managing my fantasy football teams. I even had a couple old games from my childhood on it, but they were sub 1gb programs. Remember when devs used to optimize games?
@@BalintCsala I would argue that when dealing with really small spaces (or Ram) it matters way more than when dealing with devices that both have enough.
For the average light weight consumer, this Mac does perfectly fine. It allows me to play city skylines without buffering, and I can also enjoy my usual work flow of 6 applications open with 20-30 browser tabs open. Never have an issue with it. I’m sure there are use cases out there that would surpass its ability though.
@@cidsx I don’t feel that I use more browser tabs than the average person so it’s really hard to recommend 8 GB of RAM to anyone whose use isn’t significantly less than average
This same deal is about €1000 in Europe. When I search for a Windows laptop in that price class, it’s a no brainer. For instance you can get a Asus Vivobook with an i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB ssd and a 2.8K OLED screen for €800.
My M1 MacBook Air is my favorite laptop...but I basically use it like a Chromebook. I just can't get used to MacOS after all these years, and I'm sad I can't run Windows natively without a subscription. And the external monitor situation is a super bummer. Would have expected someone would have gotten an eGPU working by now.
This might be a disservice to her, but my researcher partner, who’s still using M1 Air to load sometimes 40GBs of CZI images on FIJI software, has a better experience editing these images than on a specced out desktop with 64GB RAM. Surely, a bigger memory would help, and our next purchase will be a fully maxed memory option MBP, once her research grant comes in. 😅
Comparing macs and pcs has always been a pretty furile excercise, as they respond to 2 different kind of users. I know no Windows person that'd get an equivalent mac, even at a lower price. Same on the mac stide (of which I'm a part of).
The M1 is now almost 4 years old. But I stil don’t see a reason to upgrade from it. I bought the MBP 13 inch at launch and it does all I need it to do. Even some casual games. (More serious gaming is some best done on a desktop pc any ways, so yes I mostly game there on a nice big HDR display). The battery life is still absurdly great at more than 15 hours at about 87% of capacity. I can see this easily being a 7 year full use laptop, the value proposition of this is actually insane.
I run Linux on it right now. A few other users in the community use Arch, Fedora, Ubuntu or whatever. A asahi dev is presenting her Vulkan 1.3 driver on the 8th
Give the M1 MacBook another 3 years, find out that's your last OS update. Maybe OpenCore Legacy Patcher will take this on.... Maybe Ashi Linux will mature by then. Yes, sure, for most an out dated OS isn't a big deal, iPhone/iPad development it is.. I use an M1 Mac mini 256GB/16GB, and other than 3D rendering, I've been happy with it. Its never felt slow, even with 4k video editing. Add in Geforce Now / Xbox XCloud and I can sorta make ways with gaming. There is also Apple Arcade.. well kinda
tbf Apple has been pretty good with OS support on the same architecture. I could see them phasing out support for 8GB models because they'll stuff the OS full of AI features that require more but now that they're on ARM and not moving off it anytime soon I don't think they'll drop OS updates for a long time. Dropping OS support is something rather specific to non-PC devices imo (and even there Apple has been very good compared to the Android competition).
yeah, I've got an M1 MBP 512GB/16GB and it works great until you need to do any rendering. I use Maya and the Arnold renderer and both of those only recently got apple silicon support, and Arnold still doesn't support metal which means CPU rendering only. A pain. But yeah, rendering is the only issue I've run into with this Mac, and I've loved it very mcuh so far.
@@stathorinoakenshield6331 That was not my remark at all, and if it was not meant for my remark then I am sorry in advance. My remark is about someone just NOW buying an M1 Mac (Mini/Air) at this low price and finding out that in three years (not seven years), that they cannot continue and need a new Mac for programming iOS apps It was a forewarning about buying this machine so late in its life cycle. Apple will normally support lower end Mac machines with new OS versions for around 7 years, the higher end machines with the likes of the M1 Pro/Max/Ultra processors might get up to 10 years. Apple enforces the new version of XCode six months after its release as the only version of XCode allowed to continue to publish to the App Store. The version of XCode has been more aggressive in that it would only run on the latest version of macOS. This latest XCode 16 is a little unique in that its allow a previous version of macOS to run on (like it used to be). I used a 2014 Mac Mini 8GB RAM for over 7 years (early 2022) before that happened and the newest Mac machine was the M1 Mac Mini. I plan to keep this machine until I do need to upgrade.
I'm not sure if it is worth comparing any Apple to any Windows machine. MacOS is just too different for any other differences to really matter. I had a really good deal on a high-end M2 Air recently and I got rid of it after a few weeks, just because switching between Macs and PCs is super annoying. So unless you live in a MacOS ecosystem at work, I think it is far too annoying to switch between different sets of hotkeys, learning two different workflows to move files around etc. I tried making my Macbook as "Windows" as possible, but I was still struggling with the keyboard layout randomly returning to default layout and so on.
@@Entertainment-guess you can assume it‘s there - just not in view. Is there any known reason for this? E.g. vacation in Germany, German gf 🤔😀 (send from Germany)
The M1 Air is the best computer I've ever owned. Not the most powerful, and by a long shot. But definitely the best computer. Probably my best tech purchase.
Agreed. I bought the version with 16 gb of ram and 1T of storage a while back and it’s worked better than any computer I’ve ever owned. I don’t think I’ll be needing another laptop for a while.
@@possamei Agreed, also because I factor in value. Sure the MBP is technically better but I bought my 16gb mba used for $800 and it does everything my work m1 MBP 16 does for 1/3 the price. The only big downsides (for my workload) compared to MBP are lack of I/O and only 1 external monitor.
I had been looking for an upgrade for years. Owned a range of HP/Acer/Asus devices, had a old white macbook for my kids school. Had the choice of everything. I got an M1 cheaper than anything equivilent at teh time, lasted longer, had a solid chassis, no fan, and has behaved flawlessly. Still does. Great for travel.
That's what happens when Intel and AMD flooded the laptop space with desktop cpus for decades lol. I treat them as desktop cpus because you're always plugged in anyway after 3 hours. Utter garbage. But that's about to change this year, Intel and AMD finally realized laptops shoudn't always be plugged in with their new laptop CPUs.
I'm looking forward to you covering the new M4 Mac Mini which can be had for 500 dollar through the student discount! Would be super interested to see you compare to comparable Windows PCs, talk about affordable/mac-suited display options, and maybe compare the value proposition to the Macbook Airs? Love the channel!
We're a Mac shop at home and Windows at work. Some of the things I've noted: - Although MacBook keyboards get glossy, and may leave imprints on the LCD, I notice the keys never wear off - as opposed to PC keyboards which almost seem to be painted. I have to use a key cover on the PC laptop, which... definitely leaves imprints. - 8 GB of RAM for intensive use will never be enough in the modern era. The real sin here is Apple offering MacBook Pros with 8 GB of RAM. - Single-chip NAND and/or DRAM-less SSDs are evil no matter who makes them. - "Enthusiast gaming laptops" are an oxymoron and always have been. Any laptop can be a gaming laptop if it plays Solitaire or SkiFree. If you want CyberPunk 2077 at 1080p/60, there WILL be tradeoffs. Fast / Good / Cheap >> Pick two. - No one, not even Apple, has made a laptop with more rizz than the TiBook from the early 2000s.
I have a 16 gb M1 MAcBook Air for 4 years now. Its just incredible. Shows no kinds of aging, and as long as RAM or SSD doesn't fail, Im using it forever
@@vedanshchn nobody forces you to buy anything, but manufacturing short lifespan devices should be frowned upon in this day and age. Plus I really don't get your inventory problem with other manufacturers
@@phatslatesbecause it is exhausting. I groan every time I needed to use a traditional diving board trackpad on my work laptop when demoing to clients. With Mac trackpads, it just feels effortless. Your fingers just glide through the glass and the pressure required is perfectly calibrated. You can also press anywhere in the trackpad to generate a click and not hunt the specific area that you need to click “correctly” like you need to with most windows laptops. In fact, diving board trackpads are so bad that I associate Windows Laptops with them as requiring a mouse to be useable as a bare minimum.
I go the M1 MacBook Air recently costing almost the same as an iPhone 14 and it's been amazing. It never requires being shut down, the battery lasts 2/3 days easily and my primary reason for choosing it over the Pro was the beautiful Rose Gold color which I appreciate all the time.
@@thekwoka4707 I didn’t dare to run ML projects in it. I have shifted to Google Colab for now. But yeah, this way just for that beautiful Rose Gold color, honestly. My older Windows laptop has no resale value and so I’ve kept it with me. I’ll run those in them, if required 😅
@@Entertainment-if you’re referring to the video they did when they fixed the cooling with pads, that came with the caveat of no longer having a working keyboard or I/o.
@@MicahIsBatman2 No that was the force airjet video for LTT. He's talking about the thermal pad mod from Max Tech which is as simple as sticking thermal pads on the bottom.
I mean, I live with an M1 Mac and I have a steam deck to play games. I don’t really need much more than that. My Mac great for making music and doing video editing to despite its low ram. I’m able to use it for my job effectively.
While i don’t mind the 256gb of storage since you can always buy external nvme storage, 8GB of ram on a laptop is a deal breaker for me, since like shown it can considerably degrade the experience when you start using it for real, rather than just browsing facebook and writing documents, and the fact that there’s no way to upgrade it make it even worse.
4:25 Add it will degrade your ssd faster. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but Macs used much higher read write cycles on SSDs than PCs likely due to memory swap.
I actually use both of these laptops on a daily basis. HP is for work/zoom/spreadsheets MacBook for pleasure, streaming videos/social media/web surfing. The screen & speakers are ideal for media on the Mac.
I've had this M1 MacBook Air for almost four years now. I love it. It's a solid device. I was tempted for a long time to spec into the M1 Pro MacBook Pro, but honestly the portability of the M1 Air is something I can't justify giving up. It's basically an iPad in an old Mac chassis running MacOS. I'll probably get a desktop PC soon since I do sometimes need more power than this laptop can provide, but I love this laptop so much I'll probably keep it for as long as it keeps getting security updates
Currently running the base M1 Mac Mini at home with my own peripherals and the iPad Air on the go. Except for the storage space (I know I could've gone with a higher end model) I have no complaints. Even the M1 chip is more than the average user needs, unless you do heavy gaming and video editing. Just my opinion, but if Apple wasn't so damn stingy with the memory and storage space, they would blow away most PCs.
Still using an M1 air as a daily. Though I started out with the 8gig version, and then i got into casual photography and had to replace it with a 16 gig model. The 8gig was fine for light use (web browsing, school work, stuff like that), but as soon as I opened up Lightroom and started doing some basic RAW editing, it would use over 10 gigs of swap memory! The 16 gig model gives the M1 much more breathing room. The M1 is still an extremely capable chip even today.
Im using a base spec M1 Air since 2020 for nearly everything and never had any complaints, in fact im more and more impressed. Never had a 4 year old computer that doesn't show any signs of its age; it still lasts me throughout the day, still gets all the latest updates and doesn't succumb. Im programming on it, editing occasional videos and for games im using Geforce Now so my old noisy desktop can go because the quality is beter on the Mac (im only playing strategy/RPG games where latency isn't really an issue).
Got my daughter an M1 MacBook Air for school from Micro Center before this term. They weren’t on display, but they were listed online. Same models were available new and refurbished in store, but new was cheaper. Best Apple refurbished pricing too! I have no doubt it will last a few years.
When I was looking for a laptop in 2019, I chose a (back then still Intel) Macbook Air because for what I wanted (a thin, well built media consumption machine with long battery life and a good trackpad), it was cheaper than any equivalent option on the Windows side.
Funny as a Windows user who just got a MBP, I find the force trackpad irritating. Tap to click is much faster, but on the MBP it required some tuning to make it reliable. Pressing the force trackpad feels like asking for RSI. The trackpad is also gigantic and always picking up my palms or thumbs.
I bought the M1 8GB 4 years ago for work. I'm an app and web developer. I have 250+ tabs open and XCode at all times. It still works really well! No slow downs yet, but I assume it will happen in the next year or two.
as an avid windows user i love to see a video of an ipad vs either an android tablet or a windows laptop for photo editing. and also no automated testing as those software simulators for photoshop and lightroom are never accurate to real world use how photophores use them.
I wonder how much better the HP machine would perform on Linux. Windows feels so slow to use on my high-end laptop (also from 2020), but Linux is a joy to use -- it just feels so much more responsive.
I have a Lenovo laptop with 7540U and use Fedora 40 GNOME, runs really well. I get almost 8h of battery life watching movies (with OLED at around 70% brightness).
I have a base spec M1 Macbook air and it's been perfect for me. All I need to do on it is web browsing/Google docs/UA-cam/Zoom/some code editing and it does those tasks really well with its excellent keyboard/trackpad/battery life/speakers/build quality/efficient yet decently performant chip, etc. If I wanted to do heavier stuff (video editing, 3d modeling, etc) I'd want a bigger screen, probably a mouse, more storage, more ram, much more performance (with a fan to sustain that performance) - I'd be looking at a completely different set of laptops in a different price range. That HP, while having more performance, likely wouldn't cut it.
When Apple offers an iMac for less than 1500€ with 16GB RAM and 1TB of storage i'm buying one (or several). Until then the base specs are definitely overpriced, I ain't about to drop 230€ on 8GB of ram LOL
We've been in places like this before. You just gotta shop around but macbooks of all kinds can be better than the competition at a similar price. There's also something to say about the longevity of their devices. Even if you were to pay 100-400$ more for the macbook in the higher price brackets, your macbook will most likely outlast the windows laptop by a few years. I'm only on my 2nd macbook despite using them for 13 years. My 14" M2 Pro still works like the first day.
i'm using that exact Macbook Air (just 8core gpu instead of 6) for work since 2021... no issues so far! battery still last all day.... only 1 thing was to buy this with 16GB for a VM for Windows for IT stuff... other than that still a perfect laptop for everything!
I bought the base model M1 macbook air back in 2020 when it was new and it's still my main laptop. No reason to upgrade it because it still does excel worksheets, Google docs, and opening a couple tabs or listening to music very well. Bet 899 I ever spent 4 years ago.
Unless I am really cash-strapped, I wouldn't opt for either. It's like trying to figure out if an arm broken in two places is better than an arm broken in three places. In the end, both are still broken.
The amount of pressure to click and type on the HP honestly comes down to prefrence, what may seem like a hard press to one person may be a light tap for someone else. Personally i like the heavy clicks and taps, makes sure im confident in what im doing rather than accidently hitting something i dont want to.
A year ago I got a M1 MBP with 16GB/1TB and I paid around 1.2kUSD (22,000MXN with a rate of 18USD per peso) at that time. It wasn't new, though. It was an Amazon certified refurbished 2020 Mac with 98% of battery. The interesting thing was that it was listed with 8GB/1TB, so imagine how surprised I was when I saw the 16-gig-RAM. Actually, a friend of mine bought his from the same Amazon listing and he got the 8GB/1TB listed version. As an engineering student, I'm more than happy with that purchase.
Yup, you're totally right, the base m1 macbook air is a banger, I need a laptop for college and I'm totally gonna get this one. The feeling of having a better package is way better that having a bit more performance.
I think you nailed it: It's a pretty good value for students. Long battery life and some bling, at the expense of storage and performance. But maybe the conversation is different when compared to chromebooks ? It would have been an interesting side to explore.
I would be interested in seeing you compare the current generation of MacBooks to things in the ThinkPad lineup. I'm a ThinkPad man with a soft spot for Apple's new hardware and I think that would be a really interesting comparison
Nerdy as I am, I “refused” and went 16gig with my M1 Mini four years ago. That said, it’s ageing really well, with the OS one version behind the newest (strategic choice for two decades), and everything else up to date. Doing audio and no graphics beyond photos, I’d hold that a used M1 (max RAM) is still a fairly viable option. The Mini or MBPs are good with cooling & throttling too.
It’s really hard to justify this spec, but there are so many great options on eBay in used but absolutely excellent condition. Such as an M2 MacBook Air with 24GB of RAM and Apple Care + for $1000.
i still use my base m1 air i actually sold it then bought it back for less afew weeks later so its reduced in price after purchase lol it gets 99% of my work done and charges my ipad if i forget a battery bank at home have my m2 mac pro for the more ram intensive stuff
Macbook Air m1/m2/m3 with 16GB RAM is such a good value, as a software developer it's a happiness machine (and yes, for running heavy workloads it's better just to offload them to a cloud instance)
I do not like that backspace says backspace this is also a good showcase of the lifespan of m1. also with a lot more amd choice, there is even better value on windows machines
I have my suspicions that while it may touch on value laptop targets, that Apple only engaged Walmart in this deal as a form of loss leader, letting people buy into an ecosystem that will come with a steep price hike when it comes to their upgrade later down the line
I could probably live with base M1 for things I currently use my iPad for - mostly content consumption. Maybe at a push I could do some work on it, but as an IT pro in Microsoft land I think the 8GB RAM would quickly be an issue. Can it even handle a Teams (that app sucks in every way) meeting? But I could never love it, because I would know the storage and RAM are underspecced, and if I'd got 16/512 it would suddenly be a 'do everything' device. Frankly, it was under specced in 2020.
How long will there be OS updates for both of the "new" laptops? I am afraid, Apple will support the M1 Macbook Air only for a few more years, I expects Windows for at least 10 years.
I think you might depend on the model.I'm afraid probably those 2019 Intel macBook won't be supported that long since they are phasing them out for their M chip Macs. I think so far, they only get six years of up dates, whereas windows could go a lot longer. I still have a twenty twelve macbook that boots with windows. Mac OS is no longer able to update. I needed to take an online exam and my browser is no longer supported and I can't update it. But windows on Mac still is updated with security patches with Windows 10. I think you might be able to install Windows 11 so that means you might be able to use the machines for many more years to come.
Nah you'll be fine if you're concerned with the Mac not getting security updates because you get "minimum" 6 years of updates with a Mac and 3 years of security updates of the OS you're on. That's 9 years
@@fantasypvp Bit different to compare Windows to macOS, which gets a named upgrade every year. Windows gets a new named release every 5-6 years these days.
Yeah I noticed that they started selling discount M1 MacBook airs and I’m pretty sure they were new. I did recommended some of my friends who are actually looking to get into the Mac ecosystem or just Macs in general for work who don’t really need much power necessarily but wanted a good price.😅
All these arguments about the m1 chip starting to show its age are meaningless if it does what you need it to do. I'm an amateur photographer and the heaviest thing I would do on an m1 machine is edit in lightroom and photoshop. Maybe the occasional 4K video clip. It can do all that no problem. Especially if you have a 16gb of ram one.
Apple knew exactly what they were doing by releasing this M1 model at $650 but having no RAM/SSD upgrades available at any price. Shameless. I say this as a Mac/iPhone user, their upgrade pricing is out of control.
I love my M1 air from Walmart, I got it a few months ago when they first when on sale at the discounted price. I love this thing. I have yet to find any issues.
I dont think I've had a computer - Macs included - with 8GB in at least a dozen years. My oldest 2 Macs, a 2014 Mac mini and 2017 Macbook 12", both have an un-upgradeable 16GB. Even my pathetic work issued HP Elitebook 835 has 16GB. The single external display limitation is also brutal.
I have an xps15 with 32gb ram and a 12th gen i7 and an m1 air. They are surprisingly similar to use day to day but I always end up back on the xps because more ram is more better.
I buy a lot of macs for our company. the certified reseller told me, that the M1 8GB is still being manufactured by apple but sold only for "developing markets". Like my country (Poland). You can't get M1 with 16GB anymore. You'd need to upgrade to M2 one.
Video suggestions for Mac Address: HomeKit Security Cameras Test. A lot of us users have our Smart Home items collected in the iOS Home app, and it's very convenient. Since Apple users tend to be more sensitive to privacy, having security cameras in our home can feel a bit scary unless it's HomeKit Secure Video. But these cameras tend to be a bit expensive so having a Mac Address doing a test comparing some of them would be very useful for us Apple users. Testing things like video quality, night vision, talk through-modes, trigger alert sensitivity etc. would be very useful.
In India, i got it from Amazon in sale with some discount for Rs.49,990. Yeah, it's really cheap these days,and a beast in its price range in comparison with Windows laptops.
@@2dcatgirlirlah yes, you’re right. Still, the OS needs about 45GB and together with some programs, files and swap space, it’s full before you know it. I’d rather have a slightly slower laptop which I can use longer than one that shows its age when you buy it.
@@harmvzon i am using a base model m1 air to type this message, and i don't feel like its 256gb is that big of a hindrance, especially with how much is done online these days. as long as you temper your expectations going into it, it's really not that big of a limitation. i have all the apps i could need on here, and a video project i'm editing, with all its footage and proxy media, and about 30gb of games and am still only at 96GB used of my 256
@@2dcatgirlirl if it works for you than is obviously fine. But for me I would never recommend a 4 years old model with these specs. But then again the newest model still has, besides the new SOC, the same specs for double the price. So if you can live with those specs and you really want MacOS, this could be for u.
@@harmvzon i just think 256gb is over dramatized, i would almost forgive them for still starting at 256gb for how usable it is on the latest macbook air, if not for the price
So around 900 CAD. I think the number one thing that would stop me from getting the Macbook is the lack of upgradability to the machine. Unless there's something I'm missing that wasn't mentioned in the video? And I don't mean using external devices - I bought a laptop last year for about 600 CAD and then later added a second stick of RAM to it and another M.2 SSD. I hope Apple allows that sort of expandability soon!
while you're right the issue comes at memory upgrade. If you need 16 gig ram, which may will want/need, the next apple laptop that has that is m2 air after you custom upgrade the ram. which is almost 60% more in price. So if my budget was only 650 , yeah I myself will probably go air too. But on windows side even 30% increase in price will open you up to led panels and a better build quality.
Got the macbook air m1 "full price and spec'd up" when it first came out, didn't use it as much, and when I wanted to use it I found a vertical pinkISH line appear on the screen. I called apple, and they were remiss on the fact that the laptop showed that line on the screen and that some others were faced with the same issue as well. They were rude. They would only offer PAID repairs, which was, at the time, close to the full price you are mentioning in your vid.
My M1 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD is probably the best laptop I have ever owned. I own 2 premium Windows laptops (HP Spectre, 10th gen i7, Nvidia GPU, 4k and an HP ZBook, 11th gen i7, both 16GB RAM) and the MacBook just feels so much more premium to me. The HPs I have retailed for way more than the MacBook retailed, but just feel so much cheaper to me. Not to mention much worse battery, Windows issues, but they still are great laptops.
This MacBook Air is an excellent computer for Mom, Dad - retirees and students. I have the M2 Mac Mini entry config and it does everyday computing just fine.
I daily drive a powerful windows pc but I absolutely can’t replace my base MBA 15 for uni. The inbuilt apps , macOS comes w/ and the ease of use , battery life, everything in general is something I can’t find a replacement on a windows laptop. Apple should just increase their storage tho ffs , 256 in a laptop really ??? My 13 mini has the same storage ughhhh .
personally i bought the macbook air m1 last year (was also considering a 40% more expensive asus) for software development and it was a great purchase, even though it gets gets a bit hot (i live in india so ambient temp is also high here) and can't handle my full workload smoothly but still quite good. considering my work i feel mac is much better but for me now the only reasonable upgrade is the M(something) pro macbook. basically mac m1 air is a gateway drug into macbook. And mac air is still great for general workload.
To be fair, it should be noted that one was cheap cause it was old, and the other was cheap cause it was cheap....
Technically, the Mac was a premium $1000 product that's being sold for $600.....
I get what you're saying, but also, it's bought brand new. So at the end of the day, it doesn't matter, both are (now) ~650$ laptops
@@Mister0Eel He should've compared it to an older high-end laptop whose price is now ~650$ then
@@aarspar But are there a lot in stores ? Or even at all ?
Because that's the thing, I usually only find current and possibly last gen products when I go to stores.
Or when there are older PC, there is barely any discount on them, they're just traps for unaware customers.
I don't live in the US and never go to Walmart, so maybe things are different there, but I wouldn't be surprised if this Macbook was actually one of the good value proposition compared to what's on their shelves.
@@hectorvivis3651 Same here; I don't live in the US, so I can't say for them. Where I'm from, many Walmart-like big stores also sell older, last gen products alongside the newest ones, maybe to also clear out old stocks. Or maybe they can also browse up on Amazon or something.
I would imagine it's almost the same thing in the US--I mean I'm pretty sure they're more tech-savvy about buying stuff online.
@@aarspar but you can't buy a 2020 laptop new.
8:43 "only slightly [more capacious]" is what going from 256GB to 512GB is considered???
I (can) manage everything in 128gb of 256gb lmao
@@AnonymousChannel512 you mean 128gb of 256 gb ram
In 2024 512gb is pretty low still, kind of like "this 300 sqft apartement is only slightly more spacious than this 150 sqft one", yes it's double, but it isn't that much bigger in absolute terms.
These laptops are targeted for students. Most students do everything in the cloud now. I had 128gb MacBook Air for the last 9 years and it just didn’t matter. I never stored anything on it. It was a machine for word processing, watching UA-cam, and managing my fantasy football teams. I even had a couple old games from my childhood on it, but they were sub 1gb programs. Remember when devs used to optimize games?
@@BalintCsala I would argue that when dealing with really small spaces (or Ram) it matters way more than when dealing with devices that both have enough.
What does it for me is the 256GB SSD on top of 8GB RAM. Like, I can tolerate spitting, but you didn't have to piss on me as well.
The best thing the Mac has against the HP is that it won't have Hinge Problems. I don't know how often it breaks on HP laptops.. 🙄
For the average light weight consumer, this Mac does perfectly fine. It allows me to play city skylines without buffering, and I can also enjoy my usual work flow of 6 applications open with 20-30 browser tabs open.
Never have an issue with it.
I’m sure there are use cases out there that would surpass its ability though.
I like the MA logo when they move the laptops away at 0:56 M for Microsoft and A for Apple
Needing more than 8gb of memory isn’t an extreme use case. It’s damn near a requirement of the most popular browser in the industry
Chrome
@@Kirii86 Safari is better anyway so that’s a nonissue 💀
@@brontiago it’s not really a full replacement for my needs since it doesn’t support all the same extensions.
As shown in the video, it's really not that bad on a Mac. You just need to use it for yourself.
@@cidsx I don’t feel that I use more browser tabs than the average person so it’s really hard to recommend 8 GB of RAM to anyone whose use isn’t significantly less than average
This same deal is about €1000 in Europe. When I search for a Windows laptop in that price class, it’s a no brainer. For instance you can get a Asus Vivobook with an i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB ssd and a 2.8K OLED screen for €800.
I always appreciate the variety of shooting locations in Mac Address! :D
i appreciate the scripted feel. i forget its an LTT show lol
My M1 MacBook Air is my favorite laptop...but I basically use it like a Chromebook. I just can't get used to MacOS after all these years, and I'm sad I can't run Windows natively without a subscription. And the external monitor situation is a super bummer. Would have expected someone would have gotten an eGPU working by now.
This might be a disservice to her, but my researcher partner, who’s still using M1 Air to load sometimes 40GBs of CZI images on FIJI software, has a better experience editing these images than on a specced out desktop with 64GB RAM.
Surely, a bigger memory would help, and our next purchase will be a fully maxed memory option MBP, once her research grant comes in. 😅
Comparing macs and pcs has always been a pretty furile excercise, as they respond to 2 different kind of users.
I know no Windows person that'd get an equivalent mac, even at a lower price.
Same on the mac stide (of which I'm a part of).
The M1 is now almost 4 years old. But I stil don’t see a reason to upgrade from it. I bought the MBP 13 inch at launch and it does all I need it to do. Even some casual games. (More serious gaming is some best done on a desktop pc any ways, so yes I mostly game there on a nice big HDR display). The battery life is still absurdly great at more than 15 hours at about 87% of capacity. I can see this easily being a 7 year full use laptop, the value proposition of this is actually insane.
I was planning on going to bed, but there's a new MAC address, so here I am...
Here in Italy is early morning and I watched the video before going to work
Same 😭🙏
Same here.
@@History_archive-w7x Better than the morning news, I guess.
As someone that frequently games on laptops, and uses Blender regularly, a MacBook was never even a consideration.
8GB of RAM is so 2012
Meanwhile Apple - 8GB on Mac = 16 GB on Windows 🤣🤣🤣
how much RAM does your phone have, more importantly, need? :D
I'd say 'so 2014' - as I recall in 2012 4GB was still the norm for most people.
From this October all Macs will start from 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD
@@theblablareal Apple is taking every $200 upsell they can possibly get before listening to the reality that 16GB became the norm years ago...
if it had 16gb of ram and supported linux it would have been the perfect device of all time.
M4s will get 16 minimum but Linux = bet
it supports linux lol
you mean asahi?@vhcrack
I run Linux on it right now. A few other users in the community use Arch, Fedora, Ubuntu or whatever.
A asahi dev is presenting her Vulkan 1.3 driver on the 8th
Give the M1 MacBook another 3 years, find out that's your last OS update. Maybe OpenCore Legacy Patcher will take this on.... Maybe Ashi Linux will mature by then. Yes, sure, for most an out dated OS isn't a big deal, iPhone/iPad development it is.. I use an M1 Mac mini 256GB/16GB, and other than 3D rendering, I've been happy with it. Its never felt slow, even with 4k video editing. Add in Geforce Now / Xbox XCloud and I can sorta make ways with gaming. There is also Apple Arcade.. well kinda
tbf Apple has been pretty good with OS support on the same architecture.
I could see them phasing out support for 8GB models because they'll stuff the OS full of AI features that require more but now that they're on ARM and not moving off it anytime soon I don't think they'll drop OS updates for a long time. Dropping OS support is something rather specific to non-PC devices imo (and even there Apple has been very good compared to the Android competition).
@@Axeiaa dropping suport for 8gb means nono for m3 macs, i dont see that ever happening, more likely that 8gb models just wont get ai garbage
yeah, I've got an M1 MBP 512GB/16GB and it works great until you need to do any rendering. I use Maya and the Arnold renderer and both of those only recently got apple silicon support, and Arnold still doesn't support metal which means CPU rendering only. A pain.
But yeah, rendering is the only issue I've run into with this Mac, and I've loved it very mcuh so far.
If you're doing ios app development on a macbook then you should definitely upgrade your machine in 7 years time. There is no sense to your logic.
@@stathorinoakenshield6331 That was not my remark at all, and if it was not meant for my remark then I am sorry in advance. My remark is about someone just NOW buying an M1 Mac (Mini/Air) at this low price and finding out that in three years (not seven years), that they cannot continue and need a new Mac for programming iOS apps It was a forewarning about buying this machine so late in its life cycle. Apple will normally support lower end Mac machines with new OS versions for around 7 years, the higher end machines with the likes of the M1 Pro/Max/Ultra processors might get up to 10 years. Apple enforces the new version of XCode six months after its release as the only version of XCode allowed to continue to publish to the App Store. The version of XCode has been more aggressive in that it would only run on the latest version of macOS. This latest XCode 16 is a little unique in that its allow a previous version of macOS to run on (like it used to be). I used a 2014 Mac Mini 8GB RAM for over 7 years (early 2022) before that happened and the newest Mac machine was the M1 Mac Mini. I plan to keep this machine until I do need to upgrade.
Seriously, opening a laptop with one finger is the most ridiculously important feature, I would buy Macs just for it only 🤣🤣🤣
I'm not sure if it is worth comparing any Apple to any Windows machine. MacOS is just too different for any other differences to really matter.
I had a really good deal on a high-end M2 Air recently and I got rid of it after a few weeks, just because switching between Macs and PCs is super annoying. So unless you live in a MacOS ecosystem at work, I think it is far too annoying to switch between different sets of hotkeys, learning two different workflows to move files around etc. I tried making my Macbook as "Windows" as possible, but I was still struggling with the keyboard layout randomly returning to default layout and so on.
6:30 Love the German Mug (It says Love You)
It says “Love you”. There is no “Ich”.
@@Entertainment-guess you can assume it‘s there - just not in view. Is there any known reason for this? E.g. vacation in Germany, German gf 🤔😀 (send from Germany)
The M1 Air is the best computer I've ever owned. Not the most powerful, and by a long shot. But definitely the best computer. Probably my best tech purchase.
Agreed. I bought the version with 16 gb of ram and 1T of storage a while back and it’s worked better than any computer I’ve ever owned. I don’t think I’ll be needing another laptop for a while.
Yeah, it was such an upgrade over my old intel Air that I had.
@@possamei Agreed, also because I factor in value. Sure the MBP is technically better but I bought my 16gb mba used for $800 and it does everything my work m1 MBP 16 does for 1/3 the price. The only big downsides (for my workload) compared to MBP are lack of I/O and only 1 external monitor.
I had been looking for an upgrade for years. Owned a range of HP/Acer/Asus devices, had a old white macbook for my kids school. Had the choice of everything. I got an M1 cheaper than anything equivilent at teh time, lasted longer, had a solid chassis, no fan, and has behaved flawlessly. Still does. Great for travel.
That's what happens when Intel and AMD flooded the laptop space with desktop cpus for decades lol. I treat them as desktop cpus because you're always plugged in anyway after 3 hours. Utter garbage. But that's about to change this year, Intel and AMD finally realized laptops shoudn't always be plugged in with their new laptop CPUs.
I'm looking forward to you covering the new M4 Mac Mini which can be had for 500 dollar through the student discount! Would be super interested to see you compare to comparable Windows PCs, talk about affordable/mac-suited display options, and maybe compare the value proposition to the Macbook Airs? Love the channel!
We're a Mac shop at home and Windows at work. Some of the things I've noted:
- Although MacBook keyboards get glossy, and may leave imprints on the LCD, I notice the keys never wear off - as opposed to PC keyboards which almost seem to be painted. I have to use a key cover on the PC laptop, which... definitely leaves imprints.
- 8 GB of RAM for intensive use will never be enough in the modern era. The real sin here is Apple offering MacBook Pros with 8 GB of RAM.
- Single-chip NAND and/or DRAM-less SSDs are evil no matter who makes them.
- "Enthusiast gaming laptops" are an oxymoron and always have been. Any laptop can be a gaming laptop if it plays Solitaire or SkiFree. If you want CyberPunk 2077 at 1080p/60, there WILL be tradeoffs. Fast / Good / Cheap >> Pick two.
- No one, not even Apple, has made a laptop with more rizz than the TiBook from the early 2000s.
I have a 16 gb M1 MAcBook Air for 4 years now. Its just incredible. Shows no kinds of aging, and as long as RAM or SSD doesn't fail, Im using it forever
Selling a premium laptop with just 8 GB of RAM even back in 2020 should be considered a crime against humanity
They don't make 10/20 models per year and they don't force anyone to buy it either.
@@vedanshchn nobody forces you to buy anything, but manufacturing short lifespan devices should be frowned upon in this day and age.
Plus I really don't get your inventory problem with other manufacturers
@@salmiakki5638 Every been to an “authorized” Apple Store or service center? They use Intel MacBooks Air devices and they all work just fine.
@@salmiakki5638 going strong with my 4 yr old 8 gb macbook as i type this
Am I confused here? Since when is the Mac book air a “premium” laptop? Its cheaper than the phone in most people’s pockets
I did a quick search in my local shops, and the HP pavillon aero13 is around 900€, and the macbook air m1 is 760€
The pavilion 15 is 700€
“It feels exhausting to click around windows” 6:56
Ok, I think we’re being a bit dramatic now. It’s a frickin touchpad.
It's an important comparison. HP trackpads are objectively worse than those on MacBooks.
@@Maddy-Guthridge Yeah i 100% agree apple perfected their trackpads
The dismissal of tapping rather than clicking was... a choice @@Maddy-Guthridge
@@Maddy-Guthridge I don’t disagree. But saying using the HP one is exhausting is a little extreme!
@@phatslatesbecause it is exhausting. I groan every time I needed to use a traditional diving board trackpad on my work laptop when demoing to clients. With Mac trackpads, it just feels effortless. Your fingers just glide through the glass and the pressure required is perfectly calibrated. You can also press anywhere in the trackpad to generate a click and not hunt the specific area that you need to click “correctly” like you need to with most windows laptops.
In fact, diving board trackpads are so bad that I associate Windows Laptops with them as requiring a mouse to be useable as a bare minimum.
I go the M1 MacBook Air recently costing almost the same as an iPhone 14 and it's been amazing. It never requires being shut down, the battery lasts 2/3 days easily and my primary reason for choosing it over the Pro was the beautiful Rose Gold color which I appreciate all the time.
Yeah, if active cooling isn't useful to you, the airs are great.
@@thekwoka4707You can also stick some thermal pads in between the board and chassis for more thermal envelope.
@@thekwoka4707 I didn’t dare to run ML projects in it. I have shifted to Google Colab for now. But yeah, this way just for that beautiful Rose Gold color, honestly.
My older Windows laptop has no resale value and so I’ve kept it with me. I’ll run those in them, if required 😅
@@Entertainment-if you’re referring to the video they did when they fixed the cooling with pads, that came with the caveat of no longer having a working keyboard or I/o.
@@MicahIsBatman2 No that was the force airjet video for LTT. He's talking about the thermal pad mod from Max Tech which is as simple as sticking thermal pads on the bottom.
I mean, I live with an M1 Mac and I have a steam deck to play games. I don’t really need much more than that. My Mac great for making music and doing video editing to despite its low ram. I’m able to use it for my job effectively.
While i don’t mind the 256gb of storage since you can always buy external nvme storage, 8GB of ram on a laptop is a deal breaker for me, since like shown it can considerably degrade the experience when you start using it for real, rather than just browsing facebook and writing documents, and the fact that there’s no way to upgrade it make it even worse.
Owning MBA 8GB since January 2021, if not for programming I could easily use it for a couple of years longer. Planning to switch soon to M4 laptop.
When Jon interacts with the main LTT crew, it's like a TV show crossover
I have the Ryzen 7 8840u version of this HP AERO, except build quality (scratches easily) I have zero complaints. I love these
Cool. I look forward to the other manufacturers taking notes and improving for the next year rounds.
or just get a second hand m1 air for $350 if you shop locally
M1 16GB 512GB - £699
I been using macbook M1 2020 for 3 mouth and can't much tell i moved to mac at all
4:25 Add it will degrade your ssd faster. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but Macs used much higher read write cycles on SSDs than PCs likely due to memory swap.
I actually use both of these laptops on a daily basis. HP is for work/zoom/spreadsheets MacBook for pleasure, streaming videos/social media/web surfing. The screen & speakers are ideal for media on the Mac.
I've had this M1 MacBook Air for almost four years now. I love it. It's a solid device. I was tempted for a long time to spec into the M1 Pro MacBook Pro, but honestly the portability of the M1 Air is something I can't justify giving up. It's basically an iPad in an old Mac chassis running MacOS. I'll probably get a desktop PC soon since I do sometimes need more power than this laptop can provide, but I love this laptop so much I'll probably keep it for as long as it keeps getting security updates
Currently running the base M1 Mac Mini at home with my own peripherals and the iPad Air on the go. Except for the storage space (I know I could've gone with a higher end model) I have no complaints. Even the M1 chip is more than the average user needs, unless you do heavy gaming and video editing.
Just my opinion, but if Apple wasn't so damn stingy with the memory and storage space, they would blow away most PCs.
Still using an M1 air as a daily. Though I started out with the 8gig version, and then i got into casual photography and had to replace it with a 16 gig model. The 8gig was fine for light use (web browsing, school work, stuff like that), but as soon as I opened up Lightroom and started doing some basic RAW editing, it would use over 10 gigs of swap memory! The 16 gig model gives the M1 much more breathing room. The M1 is still an extremely capable chip even today.
Im using a base spec M1 Air since 2020 for nearly everything and never had any complaints, in fact im more and more impressed. Never had a 4 year old computer that doesn't show any signs of its age; it still lasts me throughout the day, still gets all the latest updates and doesn't succumb. Im programming on it, editing occasional videos and for games im using Geforce Now so my old noisy desktop can go because the quality is beter on the Mac (im only playing strategy/RPG games where latency isn't really an issue).
Got my daughter an M1 MacBook Air for school from Micro Center before this term. They weren’t on display, but they were listed online. Same models were available new and refurbished in store, but new was cheaper. Best Apple refurbished pricing too! I have no doubt it will last a few years.
When I was looking for a laptop in 2019, I chose a (back then still Intel) Macbook Air because for what I wanted (a thin, well built media consumption machine with long battery life and a good trackpad), it was cheaper than any equivalent option on the Windows side.
Funny as a Windows user who just got a MBP, I find the force trackpad irritating. Tap to click is much faster, but on the MBP it required some tuning to make it reliable. Pressing the force trackpad feels like asking for RSI. The trackpad is also gigantic and always picking up my palms or thumbs.
I bought the M1 8GB 4 years ago for work. I'm an app and web developer. I have 250+ tabs open and XCode at all times. It still works really well! No slow downs yet, but I assume it will happen in the next year or two.
as an avid windows user i love to see a video of an ipad vs either an android tablet or a windows laptop for photo editing. and also no automated testing as those software simulators for photoshop and lightroom are never accurate to real world use how photophores use them.
I wonder how much better the HP machine would perform on Linux. Windows feels so slow to use on my high-end laptop (also from 2020), but Linux is a joy to use -- it just feels so much more responsive.
I have a Lenovo laptop with 7540U and use Fedora 40 GNOME, runs really well. I get almost 8h of battery life watching movies (with OLED at around 70% brightness).
I have a base spec M1 Macbook air and it's been perfect for me. All I need to do on it is web browsing/Google docs/UA-cam/Zoom/some code editing and it does those tasks really well with its excellent keyboard/trackpad/battery life/speakers/build quality/efficient yet decently performant chip, etc. If I wanted to do heavier stuff (video editing, 3d modeling, etc) I'd want a bigger screen, probably a mouse, more storage, more ram, much more performance (with a fan to sustain that performance) - I'd be looking at a completely different set of laptops in a different price range. That HP, while having more performance, likely wouldn't cut it.
When Apple offers an iMac for less than 1500€ with 16GB RAM and 1TB of storage i'm buying one (or several). Until then the base specs are definitely overpriced, I ain't about to drop 230€ on 8GB of ram LOL
i know this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but maybe you could find one at such a price refurbished?
1TB HDD (SUPER SLOW)
We've been in places like this before. You just gotta shop around but macbooks of all kinds can be better than the competition at a similar price. There's also something to say about the longevity of their devices. Even if you were to pay 100-400$ more for the macbook in the higher price brackets, your macbook will most likely outlast the windows laptop by a few years. I'm only on my 2nd macbook despite using them for 13 years. My 14" M2 Pro still works like the first day.
I got my M1 air in 2021 and has absolutely loved it since, highly recommended. I mostly use it for coding, research and media consumption.
iPad Mini 7 review coming?
i'm using that exact Macbook Air (just 8core gpu instead of 6) for work since 2021... no issues so far! battery still last all day.... only 1 thing was to buy this with 16GB for a VM for Windows for IT stuff... other than that still a perfect laptop for everything!
I bought the base model M1 macbook air back in 2020 when it was new and it's still my main laptop. No reason to upgrade it because it still does excel worksheets, Google docs, and opening a couple tabs or listening to music very well. Bet 899 I ever spent 4 years ago.
Unless I am really cash-strapped, I wouldn't opt for either. It's like trying to figure out if an arm broken in two places is better than an arm broken in three places. In the end, both are still broken.
The amount of pressure to click and type on the HP honestly comes down to prefrence, what may seem like a hard press to one person may be a light tap for someone else. Personally i like the heavy clicks and taps, makes sure im confident in what im doing rather than accidently hitting something i dont want to.
A year ago I got a M1 MBP with 16GB/1TB and I paid around 1.2kUSD (22,000MXN with a rate of 18USD per peso) at that time. It wasn't new, though. It was an Amazon certified refurbished 2020 Mac with 98% of battery. The interesting thing was that it was listed with 8GB/1TB, so imagine how surprised I was when I saw the 16-gig-RAM. Actually, a friend of mine bought his from the same Amazon listing and he got the 8GB/1TB listed version. As an engineering student, I'm more than happy with that purchase.
I'm still rocking the M1 Air 16gb for video editing work and honestly still great performance and very little slow down.
The Macbook's only advantage is battery life, and I will give it that.
Yup, you're totally right, the base m1 macbook air is a banger, I need a laptop for college and I'm totally gonna get this one.
The feeling of having a better package is way better that having a bit more performance.
Just when I was about to sleep you guys give me a reason to stay up, keep up the good videos
I think you nailed it: It's a pretty good value for students. Long battery life and some bling, at the expense of storage and performance.
But maybe the conversation is different when compared to chromebooks ? It would have been an interesting side to explore.
I would be interested in seeing you compare the current generation of MacBooks to things in the ThinkPad lineup. I'm a ThinkPad man with a soft spot for Apple's new hardware and I think that would be a really interesting comparison
Nerdy as I am, I “refused” and went 16gig with my M1 Mini four years ago. That said, it’s ageing really well, with the OS one version behind the newest (strategic choice for two decades), and everything else up to date.
Doing audio and no graphics beyond photos, I’d hold that a used M1 (max RAM) is still a fairly viable option. The Mini or MBPs are good with cooling & throttling too.
I got the exact same MacBook last year used as a long time Windows user. Can’t really complain, the things that matter to me, it does well.
It’s really hard to justify this spec, but there are so many great options on eBay in used but absolutely excellent condition. Such as an M2 MacBook Air with 24GB of RAM and Apple Care + for $1000.
i still use my base m1 air
i actually sold it then bought it back for less afew weeks later so its reduced in price after purchase lol
it gets 99% of my work done and charges my ipad if i forget a battery bank at home
have my m2 mac pro for the more ram intensive stuff
I dont trust HP. Not even a little bit.
maybe stop buying shitty laptop? try a zbook?
@@nvqvinh I've never owned any of their products. I own a Legion 5. But even HP's midrangers like Pavillions and Spectres have issues.
Macbook Air m1/m2/m3 with 16GB RAM is such a good value, as a software developer it's a happiness machine
(and yes, for running heavy workloads it's better just to offload them to a cloud instance)
I do not like that backspace says backspace
this is also a good showcase of the lifespan of m1.
also with a lot more amd choice, there is even better value on windows machines
I am curious how the numbers would look if you could use Linux and/or opencore on the HP laptop.. would be an interesting follow up to this video..
I have my suspicions that while it may touch on value laptop targets, that Apple only engaged Walmart in this deal as a form of loss leader, letting people buy into an ecosystem that will come with a steep price hike when it comes to their upgrade later down the line
I could probably live with base M1 for things I currently use my iPad for - mostly content consumption. Maybe at a push I could do some work on it, but as an IT pro in Microsoft land I think the 8GB RAM would quickly be an issue. Can it even handle a Teams (that app sucks in every way) meeting? But I could never love it, because I would know the storage and RAM are underspecced, and if I'd got 16/512 it would suddenly be a 'do everything' device. Frankly, it was under specced in 2020.
How long will there be OS updates for both of the "new" laptops? I am afraid, Apple will support the M1 Macbook Air only for a few more years, I expects Windows for at least 10 years.
I think you might depend on the model.I'm afraid probably those 2019 Intel macBook won't be supported that long since they are phasing them out for their M chip Macs. I think so far, they only get six years of up dates, whereas windows could go a lot longer. I still have a twenty twelve macbook that boots with windows. Mac OS is no longer able to update. I needed to take an online exam and my browser is no longer supported and I can't update it. But windows on Mac still is updated with security patches with Windows 10. I think you might be able to install Windows 11 so that means you might be able to use the machines for many more years to come.
Windows 10 can run on computers from 2007. It's going to be supported until 2025
That's 18 years.
Nah you'll be fine if you're concerned with the Mac not getting security updates because you get "minimum" 6 years of updates with a Mac and 3 years of security updates of the OS you're on. That's 9 years
@@fantasypvp Bit different to compare Windows to macOS, which gets a named upgrade every year. Windows gets a new named release every 5-6 years these days.
still i dont want to support that, i am forced to put up with this crap on my phone already. no thank you.@@theblablareal
Yeah I noticed that they started selling discount M1 MacBook airs and I’m pretty sure they were new. I did recommended some of my friends who are actually looking to get into the Mac ecosystem or just Macs in general for work who don’t really need much power necessarily but wanted a good price.😅
All these arguments about the m1 chip starting to show its age are meaningless if it does what you need it to do. I'm an amateur photographer and the heaviest thing I would do on an m1 machine is edit in lightroom and photoshop. Maybe the occasional 4K video clip. It can do all that no problem. Especially if you have a 16gb of ram one.
They were selling m2 airs for the equivalent price here recently, even tho they 8gb for that price it’s been totally worth it
I still have my day 1 M1 MBA for work. Still runs circles around most PC laptops in the company.
Apple knew exactly what they were doing by releasing this M1 model at $650 but having no RAM/SSD upgrades available at any price. Shameless. I say this as a Mac/iPhone user, their upgrade pricing is out of control.
I love my M1 air from Walmart, I got it a few months ago when they first when on sale at the discounted price. I love this thing. I have yet to find any issues.
*1am upload?!*
Jeeze, Linus _really_ doesn't like Mac. 💀
As if Linus still manages video uploads personally -_-
Timeones, they exist
@@TheWWWyrm I'm in the same timezone as LTT.
@@TomGreen99 doesnt mean the subscribers are in the same timzone
@@parthmalani6286 They post _every_ day at like 10am every day PST, dude. It's not random.
This is interesting I would use the M1 as my travel to work computer. Though Samsung's Dex is still a compelling option right now.
The barebones M1 Air is sturdy, functional and still mighty powerful. If I wasn't struggling with only 256Gb, I wouldn't have upgraded.
Still running an m1 16gb 512g model for 40+ audio channel records, playback, and network management. Theyre really useful machines
I dont think I've had a computer - Macs included - with 8GB in at least a dozen years. My oldest 2 Macs, a 2014 Mac mini and 2017 Macbook 12", both have an un-upgradeable 16GB. Even my pathetic work issued HP Elitebook 835 has 16GB. The single external display limitation is also brutal.
I have an xps15 with 32gb ram and a 12th gen i7 and an m1 air. They are surprisingly similar to use day to day but I always end up back on the xps because more ram is more better.
I buy a lot of macs for our company. the certified reseller told me, that the M1 8GB is still being manufactured by apple but sold only for "developing markets". Like my country (Poland). You can't get M1 with 16GB anymore. You'd need to upgrade to M2 one.
Mac Address videos are on another level
Video suggestions for Mac Address: HomeKit Security Cameras Test. A lot of us users have our Smart Home items collected in the iOS Home app, and it's very convenient. Since Apple users tend to be more sensitive to privacy, having security cameras in our home can feel a bit scary unless it's HomeKit Secure Video. But these cameras tend to be a bit expensive so having a Mac Address doing a test comparing some of them would be very useful for us Apple users. Testing things like video quality, night vision, talk through-modes, trigger alert sensitivity etc. would be very useful.
I still use my m1 macbook air as my daily - as most of my work is terminal to linux servers, and a weekly garageband podcast creation. All good.
In India, i got it from Amazon in sale with some discount for Rs.49,990. Yeah, it's really cheap these days,and a beast in its price range in comparison with Windows laptops.
Buying a laptop with 8GB (shared) RAM and 128GB ssd in 2024 is not smart. It’s old when you buy it.
it's 256GB!
@@2dcatgirlirlah yes, you’re right. Still, the OS needs about 45GB and together with some programs, files and swap space, it’s full before you know it. I’d rather have a slightly slower laptop which I can use longer than one that shows its age when you buy it.
@@harmvzon i am using a base model m1 air to type this message, and i don't feel like its 256gb is that big of a hindrance, especially with how much is done online these days. as long as you temper your expectations going into it, it's really not that big of a limitation. i have all the apps i could need on here, and a video project i'm editing, with all its footage and proxy media, and about 30gb of games and am still only at 96GB used of my 256
@@2dcatgirlirl if it works for you than is obviously fine. But for me I would never recommend a 4 years old model with these specs. But then again the newest model still has, besides the new SOC, the same specs for double the price. So if you can live with those specs and you really want MacOS, this could be for u.
@@harmvzon i just think 256gb is over dramatized, i would almost forgive them for still starting at 256gb for how usable it is on the latest macbook air, if not for the price
So around 900 CAD. I think the number one thing that would stop me from getting the Macbook is the lack of upgradability to the machine. Unless there's something I'm missing that wasn't mentioned in the video? And I don't mean using external devices - I bought a laptop last year for about 600 CAD and then later added a second stick of RAM to it and another M.2 SSD. I hope Apple allows that sort of expandability soon!
while you're right the issue comes at memory upgrade. If you need 16 gig ram, which may will want/need, the next apple laptop that has that is m2 air after you custom upgrade the ram. which is almost 60% more in price. So if my budget was only 650 , yeah I myself will probably go air too. But on windows side even 30% increase in price will open you up to led panels and a better build quality.
Got the macbook air m1 "full price and spec'd up" when it first came out, didn't use it as much, and when I wanted to use it I found a vertical pinkISH line appear on the screen. I called apple, and they were remiss on the fact that the laptop showed that line on the screen and that some others were faced with the same issue as well. They were rude. They would only offer PAID repairs, which was, at the time, close to the full price you are mentioning in your vid.
My M1 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM and 256GB SSD is probably the best laptop I have ever owned. I own 2 premium Windows laptops (HP Spectre, 10th gen i7, Nvidia GPU, 4k and an HP ZBook, 11th gen i7, both 16GB RAM) and the MacBook just feels so much more premium to me. The HPs I have retailed for way more than the MacBook retailed, but just feel so much cheaper to me. Not to mention much worse battery, Windows issues, but they still are great laptops.
Why the audio of the video doesn't feel studio quality?
Thanks for the video. I recently picked a new base model M3 MBA for $849 find that it does what I need.
This MacBook Air is an excellent computer for Mom, Dad - retirees and students. I have the M2 Mac Mini entry config and it does everyday computing just fine.
I daily drive a powerful windows pc but I absolutely can’t replace my base MBA 15 for uni. The inbuilt apps , macOS comes w/ and the ease of use , battery life, everything in general is something I can’t find a replacement on a windows laptop. Apple should just increase their storage tho ffs , 256 in a laptop really ??? My 13 mini has the same storage ughhhh .
The touchpad on macbook are more natural, feel like navigating using a touchscreen of a smartphone, it is that good.
personally i bought the macbook air m1 last year (was also considering a 40% more expensive asus) for software development and it was a great purchase, even though it gets gets a bit hot (i live in india so ambient temp is also high here) and can't handle my full workload smoothly but still quite good. considering my work i feel mac is much better but for me now the only reasonable upgrade is the M(something) pro macbook. basically mac m1 air is a gateway drug into macbook. And mac air is still great for general workload.